RWBY Theory - Inheriting Magic and the Origin of the Silver Eyes 

You should also take a look at the Arc family, they have an absurd amount of aura, another potential "mutation" of magic being in the bloodline, it was never stated in the show that Ozma's and Salems daughters died..or at least all of them, one could have survived and been the progenitor of the Arc family, reason why I think this is possible, well, the Arcs pretty much ALL have blond hair and blue eyes...kinda like a certain evil witch queen before the witch part, not to mention the Arc family crest resembles Salems old family crest. Could also be the reason why Oz let Jaune into the school, he might have felt that he has some-kind of responsibility towards his distant descendant.

Apparently I have been told that in the RWBY Volume 6 dvd commentary, it is stated that silver eyed warriors were Ozpin's children he unknowingly passed god of light power to. But I haven't checked the commentary myself.

Marias father had SE based on Maria telling Ruby a story 5:58 EDIT: (Her mother was never mentioned.)

actually Maria's father had Silver eyes, not her mother

“But, there no such thing as magic!”

I like how this implies that Ozpin might consider Ruby his granddaughter or something, that makes Salem the evil wolf grandmother/evil step mother.

I'm like half way through your vid and I'm just imagining that ozpin just went around on this harem spree trying to see if he could make a biological magic super soldier with people who have potential magic abilities

Rose garden shippers in this video: “Oh goodness, it’s Star Wars all over again!”

what if team RWBY, JNPR, and others that in body the relics are the ones are the ones to kill Salem (Ruby with silver eyes to do it and the others helping her)

Your videos are really thorough and fun to listen to. Glad I found this channel 😎

I had a bit of a theory about the Dust crystals that we've seen through out the series, I believe that the dust crystals is fossilized magic from the first iteration of humanity, before the god of darkness massacred them, although I don't know if that means that they also contain anything else like human essence for that matter.

I don't think ozpin's kids are dead i believe that they inherited the curses from both salem and ozpin but mostly ozpin

I got a feeling the relic sword is underneath Summer's grave though. I mean, we all somehow know now that the maidens have somehow the same name (either coincidence or not) as their maiden elements. Summer, probably the last summer maiden, was said to have died but nobody knows how. It's a mystery that's been circulating since the first volume now. We already know her death has something to do with Salem, but how and what really happened around those times? If Summer indeed was the summer maiden and was killed going through the mission of facing Salem. Which is likely impossible since they know Salem can't be killed just like that so going on a suicide mission? That's very much unlikely. Which means Summer went to a mission that have a different objective either knowing she would die or can no longer return. We still don't know Summer's backstory after all. That's the reason why I'm so curious about this certain "mission" Summer last went to. If she were the maiden, would Ozpin really just allow her to wander to a dangerous mission like that? Which leads to another theory that Summer went without anyone knowing. Remember when Taiyang said she's just suddenly gone? I think it says that nobody truly knows what happened to Summer. But the sword (relic of destruction) is supposed to be in Vacuuo, considering it's a barren desert which was once a nice land but because of human greed it turned out like that. It's, of course, a sign that humans are capable of destruction. So what if all of these things have a connection somehow? And isn't it weird? Salem is perfectly capable of unleashing thousands of grimms and even that giant one and her grimms' empowers themselves through negativity which is you think about it, is advantageous for her if she were to just get take over the four Kingdoms. And Ozpin not finding all of the maidens yet should be advantageous for Salem as well since in that way, if she were to to take over the Kingdoms, she would have access to the vaults more securely. But she doesn't an of that. It's like she's being careful about something. A powerful, probably even th most powerful, is being careful. That leads me to the curiosity behind Summer's death for some reason.

It could be possible, if you think back to the first time Ruby meets Ozpin and his first sentence is "You have silver eyes." It could be that Ozpin already new they would show up but was curious and new that silver eyes had finally surfaced after many years of his current reincarnation.

I love how you almost got sidetracked into talking about the two brother's "gender". Ozma creating silver eyed children is and intriguing theory though there isn't much detail regarding the rules of reincarnation aside from being (presumably) male and that their aura resonates with his.

The daughter dressed in blue with gold circles kinds reminds me of Jin

Ozma lied about "gifting" his magic to four maidens. It was an easier story to tell than the fact that "we're fighting my immortal ex wife who wants to kill me ever since we split up and our fight resulted in the deaths of our four children.....who happened to be reborn".....see, the maidens were reincarnations of his daughters...daughters he had with salem....daughters who inherited from him, a similar method of reincarnation and a genetic access/capacity to perform feats of magic (inherited from ozma and salem both). But their method of passing on the maiden powers, and the aura it's tied to...the aura, that is the embodiment of ozma and salem's daughters souls is a bit different. it attempts to find a FEMALE host (female soul), in which to inhabit, preferring a young able-bodied one who the previous maiden was thinking about at the time of their death.

If ture that adds and interesting layer to Salem going after and killing silver eyed people: they are all, in essence, Ozma's kids he had with other women 👀

This is also going off the idea of Qrow being Rubys dad. And Summer being a maiden. Ozpin gave Qrow and Raven their bird shaping powers. Summer has Silver eyes. So Ruby does as well cause genetics. In s7 its been mentioned that Rubys semblance isn't speed. While we don't know yet. (ep 6 is the latest ep) I feel like the silver eyes and being a maiden is connected. I also feel like since Qrow has magic and silver eyes may be connected to magic, Rwby's semblance IS magic.

Just tossing out a thought, but it could be possible that Ozma/Ozpin does have lineage from each of the lives he has lived, giving Salem a personal hatred for Ozpin's bloodlines too (silver eyes). While on the other hand, the Shnee bloodline could have come from Salem's side, her daughters having families with normal humans...this would make it a poetic twist to have Weiss and Ruby as partners who overcame their starting disputes and are now close friends. It wouldn't surprise me if RT uses those two to bring peace between Ozpin and Salem.

So Ozma is theoretically Ruby's distant ancestor. G r e a t.

The Silver eyes might be a genetic combination where all the other genetic factors comes in perfectly.

It doesn't matter if they're related (like very distantly). Everyone's related, anyway. It only gets weird/harmful when they're close relatives, like first cousins or under. In fact, first cousins have the same probability of producing offspring with genetic defects as a woman who gives birth at age 40. The problem comes if that's repeated through generations or if they're closer relatives like parent-child or siblings. In fact, humans are genetically most suited to breed with their third cousins, due to the size of human settlements throughout history and the way groups of genes work together. Just like having too many copies of a defective set of genes can cause loss of fitness (inbreeding depression), not having the genes that work with your other genes also causes a loss of fitness (outbreeding depression).

I don't think you rambled that much. I could follow your main idea. Since aura is a fraction of magic but semblances are a kind of refined form of an individual's aura, I would say semblances are a bit closer to the true form of magic, and so would make sense that a genetic enhancement from magic would foremost surface in the form of a super semblance (coincidentally, in my own rwby fanfic, the wizard of that universe gives 4 random huntsmen super semblances boosted by his magic). For magic to manifest in the form of eyes, which mirrors the Light Dragon's eyes, the only link I can think of is as you mentioned, through Ozma's reincarnation from the Light Dragon. I wonder though, could it be possible for someone not related to Ozma to have a silver eyes like semblance; and Grimm bane? Because Ren's semblance is really similar to how Maria said she could blind Grimm (although Ren's is far more subtle).

It was Maria's father that had silver eyes in the characters backstory

Sooooo since Raven is a maiden, Yang's flaming hair and rage mode thing might be magic. I think it's actually separate to her semblance ability to deal back damage her aura absorbed. Given she can just get angry and go from zero to 100 without even having to charge it up. And didn't Raven have flames from her maiden powers too?

I disagree with the origins or the Shcnee Semblance, I believe Salem is the mother of the Shcnee Semblance, not the Winter Maiden. Also I believe Jaune with his big Aura is descended from a Maiden

I just thought of this but... what if summer rose was the summer maiden even tho her silver eyes would counter attack it. It is still possible because it never said that a maiden shouldn’t have silver eyes. And with all this when summer rose died what if her last thought was about ruby and that ruby was the summer maiden and somehow Ospin know this and let her enter the beacon academy 2 years early.

This is surprising similar to the "Child of Valen" concept from Babylon 5, where Commander Sinclair traveled back in time, was transformed from a human into a Minbari, took a Minbari wife, and thsu began human souls mixing with Minbari souls.

His shirt, when you see it YOU SEE IT

if Ozma began to have many many kids and all kids he makes have silver eyes he can create an army to defeat his crazy simp ex

The parts about the genetics, inheritance possibilities, and magic's impact on Semblances made sense. But, the part about those two kids of one of Oz's past lives/hosts having Silver Eyes is a pretty big assumption; their eyes could simply be grey, or some shade of blue (Like Winter's). It's way too difficult to discern grey or certain shades of blue from silver, so until a RWBY writer comes out and confirms that they did, in fact, have Silver Eyes, or (preferably) it's said plainly and outright in the show itself, I can't take it as a fact.

Um i just realized so like the guy who made the cane had a son, with silver eyes brown hair and tan skin, maria has silver eyes, brown hair, and tan skin. And its around the right time, like maybe grand father or father or something like that.

Winter said the Schnee’s have been summoning for generations

It definitely makes sense.

While I don't particularly subscribe to the theory you're describing yet. I will say it was well composed, your ability to think on your feet without a script is laudable. I'm not sure I believe that Semblance refers to lost remnants of magic. To me a Semblance is a semblance of a person's personality, only because magic so far seems to be control over the elements (and transformation... apparently) and judging by Salem's Summoning ability, may also be related to magic, ergo I believe the only Semblance which is related to magic from what we've seen has been the Schnee Summoning as the Glyphs, while powerful and versatile, I'm not sure they constitute as magic. But those are just my thoughts. Your thoughts were described strongly and lucidly.

Ozma had chosen both the promise to the gods and his daughters. Theory episode 8 volume 8 

I like this theory. It makes a lot of sense with the lore of the show. The one problem I have with this is the percentage part. If it were just 25%+0%=12ish% then it would eventually dwindle down to negligible. Perhaps it's more like the possibility to activate a latent gene. Like, all humans/faunus have latent genes that would allow them to have magic. However, when they have a parent with the gene activated, it is activated in the child as well.

I feel like some points were missed or not fully explored when this was made if you pull information across volumes. I agree with everything, kind of. PS this will come around to silver eye's in the end. I'll be referring to Destruction, Creation, Knowledge and Choice as Ideals as this is how the God of Light referrers to them in The Lost Fable, just an FYI. So, In volume 4 we learn of the creation of man. Created like the powerpuff girls, with Destruction, Creation, Knowledge, Choice. Those are further elaborated on throughout the series. Destruction, being the primary domain of the dark god, was the gift he instilled in man. Magic is an extension of destruction, this is supported if not confirmed in the episode The Lost Fable, the dark god says(referring to magic), "My own gift to them, used against me?" Where all the magic humans used against him culminated into a purple ball(his symbolic color in the ideals of man) that he uses to DESTROY all of man kind. Except Salem. She was given a fifth gift, by the God of Light specifically, not given to the rest of man, but I'll get to that later. Creation, the primary domain of the God of light. Creation is pretty simple but expansive, it is the ability to make new things. I think reproduction and the passing of genetics fall under the aspect of creation, lending toward the points in your video. I think this might also be related to evolution and how Semblences manifested as well as the Faunus even, but I'm not 100% on that. The second iteration of man isn't devoid of the 4 ideals of man the first iteration, they just have less. To quote the God of light again in The Lost Fable, "They will be a fraction of what they once were." Following that, Osma was returned to Remnant to live eternally, but never be alone. And essentially told being with what remains of Salem will only lead to pain. These last two ideals were likely joint shared byt the Gods, which I think can be assumed as they are Neutral relative to creation and destruction and can be used for either. As well as they overlap light and dark in the depiction shown when Qrow talks about them in A Much Needed Talk. Knowledge, was described by Qrow in A Much Needed Talk as being given "so that [man] could learn about itself and the world around it." Choice, in the same episode describe by Qrow as being given "...so man could take everything it learned and choose which path to follow." Now on the "CHEMICAL X!!!" in my powerpuff girls analogy. I think Salem and Osma were given a fifth ideal by the God of Light he didn't intend to give to man, but the Gods are fallible and didn't see its utility. Both of them were given it by only the God of Light, making it strictly a force of light. Again refer to the Lost Fable, and it also comes up in Dead End kind of with Maria. I think they were given something like Preservation, too much of it though, just like the original man was given to much of the first 4 Aspects. This Preservation is what gave them immortality. It is what preserved Salem, but also made her a force of Destruction in the Pool of Grimm. It's what supports Osma's Soul(or whatever). It's what preserves the Maiden's Magic across time. Two beings with excessive amounts of the Preservation Ideal created 4 children with some amount of the Preservation Ideal which caused there magic to live on in similar fashion to Osma. Even the way the powers are passed preferentially on to the last person the maiden thinks of before they die echos the Osma style of Preservation by never passing them on to someone who was alone. The maiden had to be influenced by that person whether they Chose creation or destruction. Also, the Ideal of Preservation was distributed into the human population over time by Osma's "hosts" and the original Maiden's offspring if they exist if, kind of illustrated in the video by Osma's Silver-Eyed Children, but I'll flesh this out later. Preservation really isn't "good" when in excess either though. That leads to immortality, as demonstrated. Optimally a unity of Creation, Destruction, Knowledge, Choice and the intent of Preservation create Balance. For those who argue creation and preservation are the same, I disagree. To create is not to preserve, it is to make new. Excessive creation necessitates destruction. You can not create your way out of excess. But yet Destruction in the name of Preservation can be a good thing. Another example is Death is part of Destruction, yet it is part of the Balance describe in the Lost Fable. When Osma is brought back, the God of Light says it upsets the balance. Those two forces, Creation and Destruction, are the domains of the Gods that in excess are always at odds, always in conflict. But, when enough Knowledge is gained about the yourself and the world around you, then you must Choose, not to create or destroy, but to Preserve the Balance. Now we get to the Silver-Eyes. Which I believe are a manifestation of the -->5

Sooooo.....Ruby is Ozpins great great great great.........great granddaughter?

Well..... that means Ruby is related to Ozpin in one of his lives.........................That makes the RoseGarden ship a whole lot weirder!!!

Given what we've seen and been told from the show, it's apparent that magic is indeed tied to one's soul just like aura and semblance with the difference being that you can still use magic even if your aura is depleted but you CAN'T use semblance with no aura. However, it's possible that this is only the case because it's Ozma's borrowed magic being used by the individuals we've seen with this limitation instead of something that's natural to them. Case in point, Ozma's gifted magic seemingly doesn't allow those who inherit it to pass it along genetically like they would the ability to use aura or semblance. On the contrary, Ozma's gifted magic seems to follow the same rules as HIS reincarnated soul being that the power actually leaves the maidens upon their death and seeks out a new host.

I hope you do an update.

yeah, I ship Rose Garden, even though I also believe Ozpin is the father of all SEW

why is the ship for ruby and oscar called rosegarden?

What if Oscar and Ruby do end up together and have a child? But that child have an enhanced semblance, silver eyes, magic exc?

Also can we get a video on Ruby’s semblance?

I know this is off topic but I think ruby mom is not dead but hiding away or trying to find her daughter and I also think ruby mom is one of the Maidens like the summer maiden

What if magic is just recessive?

I had been think of this same thing myself but you bring up some very interesting ideas that I had never thought about. especially about silver eyes being genetic, considering that neither Ozma's incarnation or wife had silver eyes yet the kids do.

Does that mean ruby is distantly related to a version of ozpin?

maybe GOL put a safeguard to Ozpins soul because if Ozma had these powers he would have tried to use them himself but since he didnt do it he must have carried them unintentinally so even though he has an idea about silver eyes I dont think he knows that much about them

Okay, so, i have a weird theory, what if the 4 maidens story is wrong, what if the four maidens are Ozmas & Salem daughters, and they have magic because Oz gave it to them, causing Oz to lose his own, and thats why it started to manifest in a different way (SE)?.

Sooo.... Osma is magical Gengis Kahn

If raven is Yang’s mother and she is a maiden could Yang have magic

Makes all the more sense that Salem would be hunting the Silver Eyes down.

I like the silver eyes theory with the GoL (God of Light)'s gift to Ozma being passed down to humans but altered, effectively (possibly as part of GoL's plan) giving humanity a way to fight Salem. I also like the idea of magic causing genetic semblances, but I don't think Ozma was the cause of that, but rather the Maidens. I don't think Ozma can pass down his magic genetically as it's attached to his soul not his seed. In the case of his daughters with Salem, I think they inherited magic from Salem and reincarnation from Ozma, although their's was only a way to pass on their power, not their mind (that we know of). "Why would reincarnation be passed on and not magic?" You ask, because of Salem being an immortal/grimm.

I was watching Volume 4 again. Nad Salem said that Ruby was able to best Cinder “because of the maiden’s power” Idk what this could mean exactly, but it can confirm the connection between the maidens and silver eyes

What if oscar has sliver eyes

I wonder could Ozpin have been reincaranted in someone who already had Silver Eyes? Also if Ruby's Mother had another children would they also been born with Silver Eyes?

Everything you said, makes sense. I definitely understand.

What is the 2nd gen of human SEMBLANCE is just a mutation of ozpin magic.

What if a silver eyed maiden had a kid with a silver eyed warrior

What I still do not understand in this all thing of the reincarnation is the fact that the god of darkness did not do nothing when his brother struck a deal with Ozma. I mean...was not he the kind of guy that always wants the last word? Would not he want to do sonething on his own?

You made sense

If magic does just improve semblances though then Ruby wouldn't have her other semblance of speed (or whatever it is now)

OK this has been bouncing around in my head for a little while now Salem is Immortal she can’t be killed and yet she likes to target silver ride warriors either kill them or unless it still up for debate my opinion turn them in the grim human hybrids I don’t care what people say I’m pretty sure we all knew she could do that but we never expected her to until we saw it with our own eyes. Not afraid of death but determined to keep silver ride warriors away from her why is that? Cinder has Grimm ooze inside of her right now and that hurt her when the silver light touched her ignoring the fact that she’s mortal. I wonder Salem has her powers to control the Grimm because she dived into the black are that creates them made from the god of darkness since the silver light is created by the god of light could that take her powers away. Of course now I’m not saying this is confirmed or not because we need to keep watching but if we’re going about this all wrong maybe they don’t need to kill Salem they just need to take away her powers if the brothers Grimm created her powers maybe the silver light could take it away.

Maria is Ruby's Grandma.

A part of me doesn’t want Winter to become a maiden. I am really hoping that something goes wrong and someone else becomes a maiden. I know that was said before but I would still like to address it

Perhaps if Silver Eyes are anti magic, then Summer was the Summer maiden, but when she used her silver eyes she killed herself. For this to work I suspect that silver eyes are indeed harmful to maidens, not only Cinder, but I believe that Cinder is extra harmed by the Silver eyes because she got her powers through the Grimm and aura can’t protect Grimm, so logic leads me to believe that once a maiden’s aura is down they’re at least left unable to use their maiden powers (which I believe is just creating elemental dust and manipulating it) at best and just harmed similar to Cinder at worst, but that’s just my opinion. It’s interesting to note that Cinder’s Semblance is Dust Manipulation, which is very complementary to her Maiden Powers, but not the elemental kind, but rather dust as in sand, she just overheated it with the dust sewn into her outfit, which became unnecessary when she got her full maiden powers.

No one: Me: Ozpin is grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grand father of ruby rose

So will the Oscar + Ruby would make a super silver warrior with silver hair or golden eyes (like metal like shining eyes that offer a deep gold look and that will have some of the maiden traits of power.

Are u going to a video on the rwby companion book?

I love the clarification for the shipping xD

Hey if you haven't can you make a theory on crow being rubys father 👌👍👏

Hey just hit me what if Cinder is actual child of Salem?

You could just think of it as the demi-god system. You know: God, no god = demi-god. Demi-god, no god = Quarter God. Just replace God with Magic

IS IT ONLY ME OR ALSO ILIA (DONT KNOW HOW TO SPELL) HAVE SILVER EYES TOO?

Which is it, because you said it was anti-magic back in April.

Yeah you're right this video was a little bit wordy. But I do get what you're saying though so logically speaking the silver eyes came from from one of Ozpin's reincarnations because he has a little bit of magic from the God of light within him. So therefore saying that Ruby may also have a little bit of magic from the God of light within her. I don't know as far as someone being born with magic to enhance their semblance buy a lot that statement is a little bit of a stretch we're not actually sure if if it's been entirely confirm that the person born with magic can use it to enhance there semblance high possibility concerning that Ozpin and Salem had children they were born to use magic and then you saw how powerful Cinder when she got the whole fall maiden powers. That are my thoughts on the video. PS I still have my fingers crossed for Ruby x Oscar go Rose garden.

Listen don't worry about misgendering a fictional God from a TV show

I wonder, is tai really Ruby's father...could it be qrow?

Maybe the god of light created the silver eyed warriors asa form of contrast against the grimms. You know Like children God of darkness: ah! I destroy your plants and animals with my grimms...grawrrr. God of light: oh yeah? Then I'll equip some of the humans with laser eyes that destroyes your grimm... pew pew. God of darkness: that's not fair! Mooooom! God of light: crybaby. Besides, I seriously doubt we have a mother. God of darkness: then what makes us brothers? Mumble Mumble Mumble Mumble Mumble. Me: the question now is...if they had ever had parents who they were? And how could they raise them so badly?

your shirt makes me think about. Ozpin taking over Oscar's body and helping Salem get rid of the last of the silver eyed warriors or just killed the team leader and the person that inspired one of the strongest protagonist. just saying... I was staring at it while you was explaining... not creepy at all...

So they had some semblance of magic then? Eh? Eh?!

What if the Daughters of Salem & Ozma survived the destruction of there castle

Almost 2k !! :) Now, do you think Raven got her maiden powers before giving birth to Yang ..? :)

Just found your stuff. Keep it up handsome 👍

oh my god... marry me please.. all of the Rwby things on your wall.. your shirt 😫😍😍

Fractions=math. Dangit, I thought I was done with school. Lol.

Hmmm I could see this being the case.

While I definitely see where you're coming from? Until the show confirms it? I'm hesitant about adopting headcanon or fan theory as actual fact.

It made sense to me