I recently got a Gigabyte 7800XT but I have had some stability issues (in 1080P, I don't have a better monitor). And I have been running it on an R5 5600X and have considered going to an R7 5800X3D myself to alleviate the CPU bottleneck. How is that set up?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Stuttering and crashing that I didn't have before. I made sure to completely wipe ALL Nvidia software via the DDU app BEFORE installing the 7800XT too (I upgraded from a stock 4060Ti)
@@OverseerPC-Hardware CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X (on base clock of 3.7GHz) RAM: 32GB total of DDR4 @3200MHz Storage: 1TB NVME plus 4TB of SATA SSD external storage PSU: EVGA SuperNova 850 G5 modular Gigabyte B550 motherboard
@@OverseerPC-Hardware certain driver version fucked up some fps (primarily the 24.1.1 update) so either stick with 23.11.1 or 24.2.1 for the best experience.
@@OverseerPC-Hardware ah sorry for that, didn't notice if it was mentioned in the video as I watched in parts. I assumed it was the 24.11.1 drivers so my bad on that part. edit : ig some games really just works better on Nvidia cards.
Sadly in today's competitive games, anyone using a 4090 has a huge advantage vs anyone else with its stability and least ms latency on screen. In old days when I played CS 1.6, everyone was more equal on hardware, most people had either 60 hz or 100 hz screens and all with stable +300-500 fps, that was mostly the only advantage in gear back then.
@@OverseerPC-Hardware if two pro playerteams play vs each other, one team on 4090 360hz the other on 4060 144hz, the 4060 team will die before they even see their enomy, that's how overpowered gear difference has become.
Serious question for all you smart PC ppl out there. On Warzone, when using a 6700XT should I drop the VRAM scale in game to 50 for best performance? Running a 5800X3D and 32 gig ram (3200Mhz). Any advice would be much appreciated. Most of my settings in game are set to low btw.
are warzone really that cpu heavy? I have the exact same gpu as you in this best but when i play with fsr3 on i only get like 130 fps, my cpu is a ryzen 7 5900x
Yes, it relies on all of the components rather than just solely on the GPU. The CCX setup of the 5900X will add latency in gaming, it would be more practical to go for this if you don't need those extra cores. - amzn.to/3TP9S0w
COD is full of bugs, glitches and crashes all the time. So no point to even discuss this game any benchmark for any card (AMD/NVIDIA) is pointless when you test against this pile of shitte. :D
I just built a computer asus 7800 xt oc paired with Ryzen 7x3d so far i am very happy don’t really play shooter a whole lot anymore but cyberpunk 1440p with ray tracing was getting 60 to 70 fps Witcher 3 everything maxed out 50 to 60fps helldivers 2 looks like over 100 fps I gotta look at that more while in game though. Sims and civilization run super smooth on that cpu/gpu as well..
@@Trusttheprocess927 yap, the 4060 is equal to or even worse in performance compared to the 4060 minus frame gen, but frame gen is... well, of questionable utility
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Ended up getting a 7800 xt on a nice sale during prime day. way more faster than my 3060 to the point it runs HD2 faster at 1440p than the 3060 was at 1080p in Helldivers 2. I was getting 10-20fps at 1080p during battles and 60+ on 1080p when not fighting but now I get 80fps in fighting on 1440p with the 7800xt. I would have considered at 4070 which this game favors nvidia but it costs at least 25% more in my area
not a fair comparison, you are comparing 8gb vs 16gb vram, you should compare with the 4060ti 16gb , they are about the same price in my country, 50$ more for the 7800xt... and if you take in consideration that amd power needed its about 40% more, i'd stick with the nvidia the 4070 with 12gb vram its 15% more expensive but its 20-30% faster then the rx 7800 xt with 16gb vram
It's not meant to be a fair comparison - the expectation would have been that the RX 7800 XT 'would demolish' a much slower card. That, and also because I don't have a 4060 Ti or 4070 for that matter (I use my own money to buy cards). Anyway, this should be a much fairer comparison. This is an updated one - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NO9mxrWuH1M.html
@@nasrinakter8003 In Fortnite you definitely won't be able to achieve 360 FPS with the 7600x. Fortnite is very CPU intensive. 7800X3D is the right CPU for that
It's decent and I actually wasn't expecting it to be good. And btw, this is the updated video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NO9mxrWuH1M.html
I'm having some odd stuttering with Hogwarts legacy with my 7800xt (Asrock) but I haven't seen anyone talking about it. May be my CPU slight bottle-necking? I have a 7600x CPU. Thanks for the vid.
@@OverseerPC-Hardware I5 12600kf and 7800xt. 8x2gb DDR4 3200mhz 750w cosair psu 2tb nvme CPU watercooled and my temps are great for some im not getting higher fps even going on lowest setting it still the game fps I tried games like the final Im only getting 190fps im not even hitting my monitor 240hz refresh rate which is super weird.
2:18 ????????? sorry what lmfao its the same graph, spikes happen in every game. on every card. what STABILITY? When you play fortnite u literally say to ignore it because its server related?? Decide. You either prise the STABILITY or ignore it. Weird vid.
Been covering Fortnite for a long time, the frametime spikes in FN is a normal occurrence, which is similar to PUBG. Different competitive games have different engine and server/anti-cheat variables affecting frametimes. For Warzone, it would not be. If you look closely at the frametime chart between the two cards.. there's micro-fluctuations on the AMD card vs a smooth one on the Nvidia card. This wasn't always the case before (AMD used to be much smoother vs Nvidia). Minor details like this is important on a competitive game. Ideally you want a clear straight line if you want to retain muscle memory and improve precision. For most common people, this would be "summarised" as 1% lows, which is a lazy way to look at it. The better way to look at it would reading the frametime run and compare both, but people would not look at this (as it's harder to comprehend). Hopefully, this is clear enough for you. 👍
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Not at all. In every game u shown both cards had spikes and then after a moment u point out only at 1 of them and say that it has issues. Now again "Minor details like this is important on a competitive game." no lmao. not a single person cares if graph is 1milisecond higher than the other, and thats literally what u were pointing out for whatever reason?? It doesn't change experience AT ALL. You would NEVER know its a thing without that graph.
It's not the millisecond higher or lower, I'm referring to inconsistency. Most casual players will not notice this at all, which may be similar to 144hz vs 360hz for example. However, for non-casual players, this is very noticeable even without frametime charts or any overlay reading. Most people wouldn't be able to explain this occurrence.. they'll just say "something's off with my aim".
@@OverseerPC-Hardware Ok cool but many times u look at 1 card when they both have the same time spikes in the same game but then you focus on only a single card instead of talking about both of them having the sameissues/graphs?? What is that logic. If both cards have same issue u say they both do instead of saying only 1 does its just stupid and its a false information its not that hard to say that "both cards have timespikes" incredible.
Due to my size and resources, I only focus on testing one card at a time, the other card is just there for comparison. I would love to post the whole test run for both cards but noone wants to see it on YT, hence why I just picked the highlights. And unfortunately, I can't test every other card every time the games listed here has released a new patch, which inadvertently affects performance. This testing is much harder than most main YT channels who just test AAA single games, which update once every blue moon and most of them just recycle test results and put in on their graphs. My perspective is based on the state of the card in relation to the current state of the game. Frametime spikes when it happens, how often and if that actually breaks your competitive experience 👍
I haven't done any testing on AV1 comparisons (because I don't have the proper equipment) but according to people who have intensively tested it, Nvidia has slightly better quality vs AMD but the gap is very close and most likely negligible to the normal viewers. Top AV1 quality is still with Intel ARC.
Yeah, for some reason they have better productivity. Mind you, they've always had graphics which is used in Quicksync applications hence probably it's superior.
something aint right lol Every other video, the rx 7800xt outperforms the rtx 4070 or does just as good (unless you want ray tracing, the rtx 4070 gives an extra 10fps) So why is your 4060 out performing a 7800 lol
Most techtubers don't really play competitive games with real-world settings. If they do, they'd be updating their charts every time and a live service game patches very often... when I mean often, that's like every 2-4 weeks. This is why you see most techtubers only benchmarking AAA games which update like what.. once every blue moon, and therefore can just recycle their numbers from their previous test. Hence, why I don't do charts but instead get you guys to see first hand. This is empirical data btw, you can replicate this and get the same result (provided its the same season/driver version) 👍
Seems like my last reply didnt take, but the 7800xt Hellhound is 520 with a 30 dollar discount code on New Egg at the moment. The PowerColor HellHound is the coolest running 7800xt from what I have seen.
@lukenycz7967 I have to be honest bro, I haven't played BF2042 recently (I haven't touched that game since their launch day issues). I'm sorry I don't know which one to recommend specifically for that game. 😑
I've only put out the 4060 in that video as a reference point (technically, the 7800 XT should slam down a 4060 hard, right?), and also because I don't have any other 40 series card apart from that. 👍
I got one and it sucked at 3440x1440 so i took it back got a 7900xt. AMDs driver from 2/15 killed the card. Ill keep this one but im going back to nvidia next gen im pretty sick pf this shit. I also had a 5800x die last year and ended up getting a 7800x3d on sale.
Unfortunately, the AMD GPU team is more reactive than proactive.. please submit a bug report on your issues, and here's hoping that they would actually do better QA before releasing a new driver.
@bocadog3 it didn't keep the framerate at even medium settings 60 in anything that didn't suck graphically. 7900xt struggles as well just not as often or the game optimization is crap.
i have both amd and nvidia gpu's in my house, and i have to say, the "stability" your talking about makes no sense. Amd is still dominating in these results. The tiny ripples in the frametime graph are not the kind of "frame time problems" that is complained about most of the time. you need to learn what BOTTLENECKS are.
As mentioned before, most casual players wouldn't notice this at all.. if they do, people will just dismiss this as.. "Something's off with my aim today" or whatever reason. Competitive players will notice this jitter in an instant but wouldn't be able to explain it. This event will cause you to miss shots because it will affect your precision and muscle memory. Bottleneck is present in every system, regardless if you have the best components. In this instance.. this situation will not be favourable to use AMD. Have a look at my last year's video and see if the diff between AMD and Nvidia in Warzone.
Use a 7800x3d your holding the cards back. the 4060 is a not way near the 7800xt. it belongs in the nvidia reject bin. is this a sponsored nvidia hit job. lol what a joke.
On competitive gaming scenarios, the CPU will be the bottleneck. And yes, there will always be a bottleneck in a system - in most instances, it's either the GPU or CPU. 👍
@@OverseerPC-Hardware You are right, but from the benchmark from cod, you can see a 15-20% bottleneck on the cpu, therefore the the 7800xt cannot perform it's maximum which actually does debunk what you say in the cod part of the video. Just wanted to let you know, because some people will not be aware of this fact :)
The Radeon looks great, like the actual design and appearance of the card.... my PC is out of sight, and I'm literally using a case from nearly 20 years ago lmao... I used it with a Core2Duo back in the day lol....I just wish I could pinpoint whether upgrading from a 3070 is a good idea. 4090ti costs way too much....7900XTX looks appealing, but the poor RT performance and lack of DLSS MIGHT not be a big deal....but also it might turn out to be a big mistake in 3 years time when I'm thinking I shouldn't have spent £820 on a 7900XTX!
Highly depends on what your use case will be. Will you be predominantly gaming, streaming, video editing etc? and if you're into gaming, what will be your main game?
@@OverseerPC-Hardware im going to use it for gaming and my main game will probably be like cod or Fortnite but I would like to try new games mainly multiplayer not into story mode games but i would like to try some
At this stage, I would probably point you to this one ($529) - amzn.to/3vrm1Av I haven't tested with the latest driver 24.3.1(and waiting for FN update) but from the current testings, bit of a disadvantage with AMD card on competitive play. Who knows if they are able to fix this months later when you buy your PC. But I'll definitely be continuing to test this.
With the 4060 in Warzone your CPU clock speed doesnt drop below 4400mhz, but with the 7800xt its fluctuates between 4325-4375. Seems like the AMD drivers are causing an issue with the CPU and its not able to maintain max clock speed, causing dips in your FPS and .1% lows. Your CPU is also dropping clocks speed in Fornite as well, with the 7800XT. I wonder why the AMD GPU is causing the CPU clock speed to drop?
Stability of 4060? ok. But than on 1440 P you still consider a card with 128bit over AMD counter with 256 bit when you clearly know bandwidth is crucial in any resolution over 1080p ?🤗
I bought the RX 7800XT last week, Already I have had 3 times that my monitors just go black for like 30 seconds then comes back alive, and when I'm playing, the entire interface / ui is all messed up and have to basically just reboot my pc.. I upgraded from gtx 1070. What a disappointment but it was on sale :(
