RX VEGA IS CHEAP NOW? Good buy in 2019? 

Finewine shows its colours when NVIDIA fucks up. So almost all the time.

dxfxct even when Nvidia doesn’t mess up, fine wine takes hold.

@@EvilTurkeySlices agreed. Just wanted to drag nvidia through the waters a little more.

dxfxct they do deserve it.

@@EvilTurkeySlices nvidia is expensive but still they have done impressive things in terms of technology

amen

It should carry you over for a while!

@@sparda9060 not everybody has 800 bucks for a card that will be outdated in a year...

@@kermitlegrof550 Its called saving up money until you have enough for the latest high end GPU that just came out when you finish saving $800 dumbass. I saved over $900 over 2 years and then the Radeon VII came out of nowhere and I bought that. Been using Fury X for 2 years before.

@Justin Edwards im broke as fuck too. Saved up money over a year and half to get $800. Save $10 or maybe $20 every week. Shit aint hard. Dont buy fucking $6 starbuck coffee or $1.75 bag of chips or $2 soda. All that crap adds up over time in a span of 1 month could be $50-$100 saved up. Tired people bitching about high end gpu price from people who will never buy them or is not targeted consumer who buys mid range or low end. Yeah it seems you are bitching too, sending multiple replies that should be in 1 comment instead spreading it out like a dickhead.

@@brad275 That's awesome, and they are super good for video editing.

Also with 3 AAA games

@@Failpupo Its really tempting to buy one.

Dawid Does Tech Stuff if youre in America there is one for 379.99 new

@@thecchrist777cc6 oh yeah yeah

Hitler ssl yeah I like dood he’s pretty coo

Timmy Joe and Brian from Tech Yes City - the only guys building systems with alternate, affordable tech.

@@InimicusSolitus i dnt know abt the other guy will check him out for sure

@@InimicusSolitus there are few more, like randomgaminginhd and the other guy(forgot the name) that are doing ultra-low budget also ozzy is doing it too some times...

@@wabachi oh yeah, randomganinghd, a great channel

What are your temps? If they're low can you post your fan curve on AMD Wattman?

The eiswolf is a water cooler, temps don’t go above 45, there is no fan

@@FrameChasers exactly what I'm thinking of doing. Except they are all more expensive in England and water blocks are none existent, except from aliexpress

@@benclimo461 u sir have not learned how to use google.... do you really think that like for me here in norway i use waterblocks made and sold in norway ? no i order mine from UK .... www.aquatuning.co.uk/water-cooling/gpu-water-blocks/gpu-full-cover/eisblock-gpx/?p=1

"I think the vega’s were the most underrated cards" No they weren't. They sold out immediately then their prices jumped 20 - 50% the next day and then ramped all the way up to 80 - 100% more.

Ya his clock speeds were fluctuating quite a lot in the gameplay parts.

Nice work! Now I want something to drive my next TV at 4k but freesync will probably only work at 1080 on them, so solid 1080 gaming is really the thing. And I reckon you really are set!

Your life isn't Ray traced, you don't have a soul.

Try running a custom res of 3200x1800 by enabling virtual super resolution in the and control panel. Woohoo nice on the Vega 64

Is 550 W enough for a 64 ?

@@Harrock not really, you're better off with 750 watts

@@Harrock For a normal Version of the Vega 64 you need 750W and for the Limited Edition of the Vega 64 from Sapphire you need 850W to keep your System stable.

crexiCSGO well ... i dont want to spend 150€ for a new psu on top of the vega ...

While true as of yet still, the faster the GPUs we throw at it and while still limited by DX11 in the vast majority of the times, 4K is going to become CPU limited soon. 1440p has already become CPU limited.

@@raresmacovei8382 idk just saw an fx8350 in 4k with 980ti did not bottleneck the card at all was amazing. ps nevermind your right looks like around 60fps in 4k is when some CPUs start bottlenecking again

Well 4k gaming isn't really needed, but 4k video editing is definitely a requirement.

It also loves *properly* made direct X12 games. Forza horizon 4 it's very close to a 1080 ti. It'll age well. Fine wine TM

@@bulletman001 I know amd driver optimization over the years is incredible

Esp w freesync!

what about vega 56, will they run 1080p 60fps easily on 2019 games?

@@thedragonknight8061 yes for sure, a Vega 56 is optimal somewhere between 1080p and 1440p.

We all know RGB add's 30% fps boost with GPU RGB alone....

Runnin' the Rx 580 8gb, and I'm getting killer fps in dx12. Is that something vega specific I'm not aware of?

@Just4fun Is that just a vega thing, cause as I said, "I'm running" a 580 and am not having that issue.

@@conandude76 Actually, it runs universally better in DX11 with no graphical difference. It runs much better with DX11 than DX12 on Pascal, Polaris, Vega, Turing, etc. I have a 1080 Ti and a Vega 64, can confirm it's roughly the same for either.

Mega deal

If its a dual fan version check that the thermal paste in the HBM is making contact with the cooler. I bought one brand new and the thermal paste on the HBM was not touching the cooler.

@@joelwylde Thanks I'll double check when I switch cases later today.

@@kevinvanneste2500 Yah thanks I ended up selling my 1070 FE to get it for a all AMD build with a free sync monitor

Auto undervolt is trash. Too conservative. Much better with the OverdriveNTool.

Jason Martinek May I ask how you water cooled it? Did you use an E K waterblock?

LOL Man Phys-X ... They should make dedicated Ray Tracing cards lololol, I am assuming Vega Vii is gonna be hard to get, both as a reviewer and a consumer, I will try my best!

You can EASILY get a 1080 for 300$ used. 1080 TIs for 375-400$, 1070s are only 200$ used on Craigslist or on Facebook Market. Used GPUs are the way to go...can get them even cheaper if someone mined with them because people have this retarded idea that if someone mined with a card it's worth less and doesn't game as good but that's not true AT ALL.

omg i just bought my new pc and i forgot that there were used GPUs on that website that i ordered my pc on.... god damn it

@@bradmundies425 not where I am. I tried. People are asking 400 cad for 1070s still

@@TimmyJoePCTech I've just pulled the trigger on a Gigabyte Oc Vega 56, 275 euro shipping included. I was tired to wait for the Navi and I was not sure if my LG 34um68 3440x1440 is compatible with the Pascal ones. I hope I've made the right choice, especially bicause my rx480 was unable to sustain that resolution.

I know it's not the same but you can buy them off of aliexpress that's made by a different company. People still report good things about them. That's what I may do if I get the card.

Ben climo im always skeptical about ali express. I’d rather just pay more for a quality EK block personally.

@@cardbored_ it's not an off brand one that I've never heard of before, it's done by barrow and another company as well. A lot of people say one of them very much looks like ek lol. They both do have good reviews though. Being in England, I haven't been able to see any ek water blocks for vega at all, so this might be the only option.

@@cardbored_ I'd also rather get ek water blocks as well.

You gotta be pumped on that right Will?!!

Games are eating up VRAM these days. 16GB is clearly the future for 4K gaming. DW

So I have been using vega as my main card for a good 3 4 weeks now, it takes some serious tuning. Mild overclock with as much undervolting as possible and you can get about 45 fps on avg on high 4k in Metro Exodus. It's not for the faint of heart. I can keep it in the freesync range if I tweak it to the maxxxx with the blower sounding like a vacuum cleaner. Now I could obviously go 1440p and turn the fan down but I'm not that kind of person. Good luck out there! Thanks for the compliment

@@TimmyJoePCTech Thank you, I'll continue to check out more of your content.

Veda Chan why? A 2070 is better

For me, surprisingly, Dx12 ran better than dx11, only difference was, Dx11 had a higher maximum fps, but had alot more drops below 60. but thats just me there

At 144hz is where it's at.

Yeaaaaah no

Gimme 1080p 144Hz all day.

unfortunately 90% of my viewers are from US and everyone just seems to default to their dumb currency, I will try to do better!

Really more a side-grade than an upgrade

How much you selling that 980 ti for? I have $20.

@@mpk6664 20 +200

@@armando1is1great maybe but I have problems with the 6gb of vram. Some games the performance drops like a brick when the game needs more than 6gb of vram.

@TurboCMinusMinus true but 8gb is enough for 1440p. I have problems with some games @ 1080p that's crazy. Rtx 2060 is more powerful than 980ti and it has only 6gb. What is nvidia thinking. And the 2080 with 8gb is a problem as well. Radeon 7 16gb that's the future but the price pff

Have you received it, yet? I've seen the video announcing winners. I'm still hoping to win lol

6gb is not even enough for 1440p gaming anymore. 2060 is stupid card, like 1060 3gb.

Just sell the 2060.

@@HisNameIsRobertPaulson01 No, I haven't received it, but Nvidia did contact me and I sent them the proper paperwork. The promo goes until Jan 31 so you have some time. Best of luck! And I'd rather sell the 56 because I'm using 1080p with some extra resolution scale if I can. I think by the time 6gb vram becomes severely limited the card will probably be obsolete anyway. Also the HBM on my 56 is kind of ass 🤷‍♂️

@@lashyndragon Your v56 has Samsung memory?

lol no, it does not use 13.69 gb. Only the menu thinks that... and I also thinks that many GPUs have 0gb vram. RE2 does not even need 8gb for 4k maxed and maxed textures. If I had a tin foil hat I'd say they did this to sell VII's to people who dont know better.

Nope, that's system ram mirroring.

People don't realise! I use 7.8gb of video memory @1080p in BF1, Titanfall 2 and even asetto corsa

@@Fitness195 thats because of memory allocation. You dont need 7.8gb you just use it because you have surplus

It uses 20GB Ram @ 4k MAX :D steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/941717709722153108/51FDC11E6F448238B5C66CE015EDE9E5CB6F1BB2/

Half decent

samittybittyturtle nice I got a 1070 ti for 250$ on Facebook marketplace

bought my used GTX 1080 about 6 months ago for $300 with those 15% site wide ebay promos.

he needs to buy a pump, rad and res to put that block that came with his card to good use...

too bad their drivers suck

@@itsneight1260 In my experience their drivers have improved to the point they're better than NVidia's for stability. they still have a way to go in terms of feaures and launch performance of new GPUs but they have definitely been working hard to make their drivers good.

AMD drivers are much improved. I like the 1 click overclock or undervolting.

@@itsneight1260 fuck off dumbass

I like Timmy Joe but I cringed when I heard it. I honestly feel like this card is meant for smooth 1440p gaming. Get a high refresh rate going and enjoy the sweet buttery feel of freesync at 144hz.

Yor3 but u have to understand old doesn’t equal bad

It's better, fucken amd fangay

The Vega 64 runs faster and comes with three games...

HOODedDutchman the Vega 64 will beat the 2060.

@@EvilTurkeySlices read some reviews before you comment. Reference 2060 is basically identical performance overall vs Vega 64. www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_RTX_2060_Gaming_Z/32.html

@@EvilTurkeySlices while being significantly quieter and using basically half the power*

Yeah the RTX 2060 is actually a very well-priced product. The hate for RTX and nvidia just overshadows its performance.

6gb vram in 2019 lul

$330* I can find a $225 VEGA 64 on Ebay compared to the 2060's $300 price tag. That right there, is a great deal. If I could only afford it.

@@mpk6664 Where? www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=vega+64&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1 look at the auctions that are ending soon www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Auction=1&_nkw=vega+64&_sop=1 there's no way you can get a vega 64 for $225

You cannot get one for 225 lmao I would buy it at that price in a second

What you can do is get a Vega 56 HMB2 version (Triple fan Powercolor version going for 280 on eBay) and flash it with the Vega 64 bios. Then it’ll be ~10-20% faster than a 2060 for 70 bucks less. I find that to be an attractive deal, and if I had a better CPU to match I would’ve pulled the trigger on that weeks ago

@@Assault0137 How will it be 10-20% faster when the 2060 is already 7% faster than the 56? The Vega 64 surely isn't 20% faster than the 56? i.imgur.com/g6o6ZdS.jpg www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3427-nvidia-rtx-2060-founders-edition-review-benchmark-vs-vega-56

It has better thermals, a lower TDP, and is future proofed with Ray-Tracing and DLSS

If you care about those things sure.. If you care about 4k and having enough ram for mods then vega 64 makes more sense. You really don't need aa at 4k and rt gimps performance.

@@bluegod1695lol 4k gimps performance too, don't hear anybody complain about that tho I wonder why that is, is it because we accept a performance drop at 4k knowing its heavy on resources and if so why do we have a hard time accepting the performance hit with RT when we know how tough that is to run too. quite frankly id take the performance hit with RT and enjoy the extra detail rather than take the performance hit with 4k knowing I have to reduce details in order to run 4k and then you have a super clean image to highlight all those reduced quality settings, niiice. if your care about 4k the vega 64 makes no sense at all! timmy joe might make 40fps sound glamourous but he skips over the fact at 40fps frame timings are all over the place, it stutters, tears, control response takes a hit, mouse response feels extended, its not a 4k card unless you drastically reduce settings and try to hit that locked 60fps and by then whats the point because your just making the game clearer to see those reduced settings even more. good 4k performance starts at the 1080ti and even that struggles a lot of the time, I know I had one and upgraded to 2080ti.

2060’s looks decent at first glance undoubtedly but if you dig lil deeper you’ll find the biggest NO NO for that card which is priced at 350 usd is, it only has 6 GB memory what that mean is, in long term it’s a poor investment because how gaming industry is slowly pushing 8 GB VRAM for High/Ultra now that same requirement down 8-15 months in future on similar resolution likely be for High/Medium settings meaning if you try to play games on 2060 at that time in future there’s maximum chance it will start to bottleneck or have stuttering issues due to limited resources available to meet those settings.

1080 was beating vega 64 in most benchmarks and 2070 is little faster then 1080.

@@jaggsta maybe in GTA 5, fortnite and other older shit

Vega 64 is 2070 performance, especially after undervolting. Might be close to a 2080 with that waterblock.

​@@exe16 Seem like Vega64 is indeed faster than the RTX 2060: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Pa8AmB4wmAQ.html And indeed so is the RTX 2070. But the RTX 2070 is just a tiny bit faster, sure it doesn't cost much more either so it's not like there's no reason to buy it, I guess one reason to buy it could be if one want the higher VRAM amount, like comparing 2060 and 2070 to 1060 3 GB and 1060 6 GB for the previous generation. They are very similar. I won't really bother all that much with which of the models since they are pretty much the same. Also I don't know if the prices are even the same. I'll check cheapest Swedish prices: 3949 SEK RTX 2060 3990 SEK Vega 56 4890 SEK Vega 64 5666 SEK RTX 2070 So the RTX 2060 and the Vega 56 cost the same and of course the Vega 56 will be somewhat slower than the Vega 64 so likely very similar gaming performance for old titles but then the RTX 2060 also do support the ray-tracing, DLSS regardless of whatever you think about it, even Ansel and GameWorks if you care, I assume it pull less power, by now both support Adaptive-Sync. So why except because you want to financially support AMD would you buy the Vega 56 for games? For productivity / computing / mining purposes maybe it serves one but for any gamer the price isn't good as the product is a slightly worse product than the RTX 2060. Clearly one could get a Vega 64 for 13% lower price than the 2070. Seem here like the Vega64 may on average outperform the RTX 2070 (selective choice of titles or just how it is?) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RzOuIbIIsQE.html So I guess the Vega64 isn't completely without merits at that price point, a bit faster at old/current games and slightly cheaper, then again the RTX 2070 likely pull less power, make less noise, support ray tracing, DLSS, gameworks, ansel, shield, g-sync if that is of any interest. So, I guess I should rephrase that into buying the Vega 56 instead of the RTX 2060 making no sense for gamers who care about their own rather than AMDs performance and not really say anything about the Vega 64 but if I were to do so compare it to the RTX 2070 instead and ask people to think about whatever it would be worth it to pay a bit more for the RTX 2070 and get a card which support more features. Power consumption in BF1, www.anandtech.com/show/13762/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-founders-edition-6gb-review/14: 2060: 322 watt 2070: 342 watt Vega 56: 386 watt 2080: 395 watt Vega 64: 461 watt

@ No one would buy an rtx card so easily if they can't use It's features at full potential. For me I'm just gonna have to wait more for that feature of the rtx to be useful in game. Probably Nvidia will do something again about Ray tracing to be useful later on regardless of the price.

@@pauloazuela8488 You can use it to it's full potential. The potential may not be where you want it to be but then you shouldn't buy any computer parts whatsoever because they all could be better and that would be nice so better don't buy any. RTX is useful. Just a few people have the cards though and just one(?) title is out yet.

RTX isn't "useful" by any stretch of the word, its a gimmick at this point. Later on with more adoption it may be the new "must have" feature, but right now I want high FPS and good enough graphics.

Go for the vega. The GTX 1660ti is decent but doesnt beat the value and performance of the vega 56. As long as you keep cool enough it should serve you very well.

Johnny T. Chalatsis sapphire