Liam, respectfully, I think you're underestimating the sheer number of international fans that want to go see a game at the Racecourse. Also the precise reason the documentary is popular in the United States is because it puts so much more emphasis on what the team means for the townspeople. Those other documentaries like "Sunderland" are a dime a dozen in the US. Basically every single professional sports team from Ice Hockey to Football has a documentary crew that follows the players week to week during the course of the season.
Precisely. The documentary isn't for the diehard sports fan. R&R know the sports fans are going to watch. These are aimed at the casual fans or even the non-sports fan who find the human interest stories compelling. It's the same formula NBC has used for the Olympics since 1992 and it has become a ratings juggernaut.
I agree. Even those of us who do follow the game enjoy the human interest stories. It's a formula that has engaged non-fans and has contributed to the success of the show as well as the club. I'm currently watching series one with my wife who hates soccer but is enjoying the show nonetheless.
@WyldStallion-bs9oo Matt Turner and Tim Ream are playing Premier League Football Wrexham are still a League 1 Club they won't be dropping down that far, Ream may do in the future if you are in the Championship however at 36 I don't see it. Your best bet is going for a younger player from USA to build into an elite player.
Welcome to Wrexham may be a more popular Documentary in America but the only reason is because Hollywood Actors are involved if it was a normal person the level attention would be far down the pecking order. It may be bias however Sunderland Til I Die is a very good Documentary. Season 1 looked at a club on its knees S2 was looking at new owners that got some positivity that eventually struggled with the sheer size and S3 Looked at the final stage where we were promoted back to the 2nd tier. The story is important and it looked a lot at the fans stories and personal lives like what Wrexham does well and addresses.
Yank, 56 years old and ive watched english football since i was a little kid on our 12 inch black and white snow picture on public broadcastng but ive never had a rooting interest in any particular club. Until now! Great video young man.
@@John...44...well I've got a baseball basketball hockey and football team to root for already. The baseball team owner owns Liverpool the human scarecrow John Henry. I've always just watched whatever came on tv. It's the fact they bought a club so far down and in spite of a good deal of criticism have proven to be true to their word. A bit of inspiration in an increasingly dour world I guess.
@@rolanddeschain965. I love the strict criteria you used and the slow roll to chosing a club after 4 decades. Would hate to go car shopping with you though.
I have heard it done similar on the Wrexham podcasts I listen to- it seems that no-one wants to speak ill publicly but I get the impression she was not well liked locally.
Feels good to be back! Just for clarification, the stadium in the thumbnail is not in anyway a plan that’s been produced by the club, it’s an ai generated image and it looks quite accurate 😅 Enjoy the video
Every other sports documentary already focuses primarily on sport and the personal stories and relationships is what separates welcome to Wrexham from hard knocks etc. My favorite part of the show is the people of Wrexham and I root for the community of Wrexham just as much as I back the team. I wish the town and team continued success and can’t wait for the next promotion.
The WTW documentary is compelling tv even for non-sports fans because it manages the tricky task of blending the football team with the community. The most recent episode (3x05 "Temporary") expertly juxtaposed the stories of Arthur Massey and James Jones. I wouldn't be surprised if this specific episode ends up being submitted for Emmy consideration.
Liam, It was really cool seeing you in an episode of Welcome To Wrexham. It shows your hard work and love of Wrexham has been noticed. I do think a bit more football would be great in the documentary, but it is imperative and very well done by the crew to show so many stories within the town. These stories show the heart of Wrexham as a community. I believe there is a good balance in the documentary at the moment. I would love to visit and have a cold one at the Turf. Good luck on the rest of your exams.
Saw you in the new season of the documentary. Well-done! The sole reason I became interested in the football team was the community interest generated by the documentary. I feel invested in the community’s growth because of the documentary.
I have ZERO interest in football. I think I'd rather have my head shaved than watch a match.. but this show is delightful. I enjoy watching passionate people and human stories, this has it all!
I personally like the balance they struck between human interest stories and football with the current series. About the time things get a little slow in the human interest side they cut to the football and give you some of that to keep you going. To me it's just a perfect blend of a show. Good to have you back brother! Peace!
Liam, I hope you'll get an actual press credential this season. I disagree about the human interest stories in this series. A team is more than just the players and the club. Whether the townsfolk are fans or not, they're part of the story. I hope there will be some local discount to keep prices down so tourists don't crowd out the loyal locals.
So impressed with your channel Liam. Very professional job. Well Done. As a lifelong Burnley fan I see many similarities between the 2 clubs both fan base size and American ownership. Burnley have gone from bottom of League 2 (1978) to Premier League on a regular basis and I see Wrexham following suit. Living in Australia for many years I will follow your channel with great interest. Keep up the good work.
I feel confident in saying that if the option was available, the club could easily find an extra 1-2k season ticket sales if there were seats available, if not more. I also don't agree regarding the format of the documentary. I personally enjoy the "soap opera" type approach they took. It's a chance to get to know not only the players, but the people within the community that make the club as special as it is. It's also a better approach for our overseas watchers as they get to see why they should make the effort to come and see the town if they ever get the chance. I should add that I've never watched a single other football club documentary as they just don't interest me. If I want to follow a team just for the football, I watch the game. Wrexham's docu-series is thoroughly entertaining, BECAUSE it involves more than just the team talks etc.
she pissed off a lot of locals with the way she handled a lot of things at the club. ticketing issues that were her fault, discounts in the shop being advertised and then pulled to coax money out of people, awful treatment of a lot of staff (because the club was mostly a volunteer force when she came in r&r wanted to get as many of them on the payroll as possible for their work, and her solution was telling them to get fucked), prices going up significantly across the board despite announcements that the club made record profits in different years. not to mention she is a raging tory which went down about as well as the titanic in a notorious tory hating part of the world like wrexham. and her resignation is heavily linked with a move back to burton albion which is where she came from in the first place because her father is supposedly going to retire soon so many think she wants to take that back over and is jumping ship the second she might have to compete against them. just not a lot of people liked her and we're more than happy to see the back of her
This is what owners should do: Hire quality people to run the club and get the hell out of the way. Don't be like Todd Boehly and ask Thomas Tuchel why he doesn't play a 4-4-3 (that's not a typo) or pile on huge debts to the club. Good luck on your final two exams! Looking forward to an exciting summer ahead.
Seeing Ben Toza not kept hurts. His throw ins alone are an extremely valuable asset any team would love to have. I think he's played very well to stay on so a bit of disappointment there. Sad for Lainton as well. After that wrist injury, just couldn't get back to full fitness at any point in time. WAFC 100% must improve the Defense though. Should be the number one priority for the club. Excited to see how this upcoming year in Leauge One turns out. I'm gonna say they will finish 10th in the table but I'd love to see them make the top 2 once again, or even get into the playoffs. Here's to 2024/2025
Long throws are easily counterable if the team is competent so as you go up the divisions they get increasingly less common, he wasn't league 1 quality unfortunately
I don’t think the appeal for the doc would be that great in US if it was just about football. Just look at Ted lasso. Americans watched it not for the football but the story.
I think the 45 to 55,000 seats is partly so no one gets priced out of going to games, but also part of their (R&R) plan to get International matches played at Wrexham. Also have to agree with previous comment about the documentary being a nice balance. 24/7 locker-room access is really for the hardcore fans, Welcome to Wrexham is more like a gateway to fandom.
Great video Liam, as for your take on the documentary, if you think about a North American audience who isn't obsessed with football, I think the fact they've covered the human side, and the town has been a huge part of the success of the series. If it was all about football, the North American audience would not have tuned in and learned about football and fallen in love with wrexham! For those of us that do love football, we can tune in further by connecting to creators like yourself for all things football.
45-55,000 means Wrexham will become like Man UTD model! Half the home fans from outside of Manchester/Wrexham/overseas fans! I worked in Trafford Park next to UTD ground, and every Sat.there are coach loads of fans from all over the UK/Abroad with signs in front window! I couldn't work out at first why a coach from CARDIFF or elsewhere in UK was at UTD instead of their own home clubs! As an Adton Villa fan, 99% of fans at home games are from Birmingham. At UTD Id say 40% of fans are not even from Manchester! Wrexham could end upike this by Championship/Premiership, but if all the Home Local Wrexham fans still get in, then its not an issue.....just make sure you get some prawn sandwiches on the menu alongside the pies, chips, and Rarebit! 😂
Grow a pair. Sitting in California, watching Welcome to Wrexham, and "RU-vidr" I have to say, I enjoy all the stories about the City and its people, the players and their families, the Wrexham Ladies and even Rob and Ryan. You're young and easily bored so wanting the WTR episodes to be all action is, let's just say, immature. Hey, Welcome to Wrexham is the reason I searched and found your little gig. And it's just as easy - to UNSUBSCRIBE.
Stadiums don't necessarily equal success. Bolton, Wigan, Huddersfield, Charlton, Reading all have modern premier league level stadiums and look at their performance over recent years. Wrexham need a modern stadium with 25-30k seats.
Good luck in your exams. Had a prof. tell me chewing gum can increase your score 2%. Gets the blood flowing in your head. Might be BS but if you chew like a cow it might bring your neighbours score down. Good luck!
Its a story of normal everyday people, with normal everyday families, with normal ups and downs , but uniting in achieving great things...thats why its so popular ...
Hi Liam, you've got every right to be proud of your success. Getting included in the documentary is simply smashing or as we might say on this side of the pond; icing on the cake. You earned it. No real surprises on the non-retention list. This is part of the game. Yet it just tugs a little on the heart when one remembers the contributions and the memories created by those who aren't going to be on the pitch for us next season. I sincerely hope that all of them land on their feet and enjoy future success. Let me give you my perception about the documentary's split storylines. I fully understand your view, being that you are a Wrexham man born and bred, that the main emphasis should be on the team and the matches. That's where your loyalty and passion lie. You are familiar with the town already and have multiple sources to keep those stories coming in. From my point of view, as a fan who had never heard of Wrexham before the doc introduced me (as well as, apparently, millions of others around the world) to the town and club...the theme, from the start, that the town is the club and the club is the town resonated with me. As did the dedication of Rob and Ryan to serve both. For us who live far from Wales, the storylines about the town and its people intertwine with the "beautiful game" at the Racecourse. It's what makes the doc so appealing, immersive and worthy of loyalty to both. Because we, who live our lives so far away, were introduced to both town and club simultaneously...as one and the same. Do you get my meaning?
Hey Liam ! You've been missed, mate. Good luck with the exams :) EDIT: All good info', it's on ep 5 though. Surprised you didn't mention the women's tour of the west coast this summer? Two in LA and one in Portland. I reckon that if you also talk about the women's team you'd get a lot more subs. They've been amazing.
American here. The show is excellent. I, too, would like to see more of the matches. I also watched Sunderland and the emotional roller coaster of being a fan. I only know that feeling and can compare it to college football here in the States, more so in the Southern states here, where it's generational in families to cheer and die on how the team does, and where you stop talking to a family member for being a fan of the rival or disowning them. The show, though, is for something other than a hardcore fan. It's for the casual viewer or the star-seeking viewer. I know the group of people, between co-workers, friends, etc.; there was more talk about soccer/football than there was of NFL, and even on chat boards, it has been more about soccer/football and what Wrexham was doing. After watching a lot of Premier League and UEFA, I am certainly tuning out the NFL and all the social and political nonsense it wants to push on its fans. Now it's trying to remember all the rules and get acquainted with some other things, like loaning a player out, which is pretty cool, and it's interesting how it works. The only staggering thing is getting my head wrapped around the number of clubs in England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland alone, not including other countries.
The thing about Wrexham with all due respect to you guys you've been doing great, but due to your population of over a 100 thousand you have a ceiling because you won't have the fans to fill a big stadium and to expand etc.
He's not a local fan though he does not live in Wrexham. Only true wxm based youtube channel is fearless in devotion me the wife and wrexham and rob ryan.
Wrexham is a small town. Can you fill that 55 thousand seat stadium if Ryan and Rob decides to sell the club? I wish you the best but you need to stay on the ground.
Not a chance you’ll get consistently the sort of crowds you’re talking about. If you seriously think Wrexham will be a major player once your Hollywood backers lose interest when you start losing regularly in L1 then I think you’re in for a big disappointment.
The series has carried on due to the promotions but spend a season or especially 2 or get relegation then that's it for the documentary along with a lot of fans
Been watching Wrexham from the Brian Flynn days....i'm sorry but there's little to no chance of making the racecourse a 55,000 seater ground...on the mold rd stand is the Mold road....NEWI and the trainline are behind the goals............unless they move Mold road...the uni and the train line the bigger ground will never happen
45-55K exceeds any soccer-specific stadium in MLS in the U.S. which are all cities of 500K or more. A crazy number considering that exceeds the population of Wrexham, Wales.
I will be interested to see how Wrexham fair in League One next season. The financial advantage that they had in the National League and to a lesser extent in League Two will not be as apparent in League One next season. There will be some big clubs in League One next season along side Wrexham such as Birmingham, Huddersfield, Rotherham, Bolton, Charlton, Barnsley, Peterborough & Blackpool all looking to get promotion. The churn in the side may be apparent in the early weeks of the season or perhaps not depending on how well the club recruits over the summer? Palmer, Mullen and Fletcher are League One level strikers at worst but will they continue to be as prolific or will they find it harder to bang in as many goals? Plenty of intrigue for the season to come but I must applaud the vision and foresight of the owners in applying for licence for a 55000 capacity stadium. If Wrexham are ever going to survive in the Premier League if they get there then they will need to stop the busses of fans from north Wales traveling to Anfield, Goodison, the Etihad and Old Trafford and start going to the Racecourse Ground instead.
I was surprised they released so many first team players, but then found an interview of Phil Parkinson explaining the 22 man cap of League 1 squads. It doesn't include keepers or under 21s. So to grow, they had no choice but to cut players in order to sign ones young enough and capable of League 1 and Championship. We might see a few Premiership youngsters on loan, and loans from that Mexican club too. While it seems ruthless, I suspect this is the footballer's life. I think the change of CEO is the same - they needed a pro used to the big leagues.
I can definitely see your point about wanting more behind the scenes of the actual club management and that type stuff, but I think you have to take a step back to see that its certainly not targeted to the fans that were already in place and probably wouldnt have sustained viewership if it was just about the team. For me, I started watching as a bit more than casual soccer fan in general that loved Rob & Ryan's acting, so I wanted to give it a shot, but then I felt like I was becoming not only a fan of Wrexham AFC but truly pulling for the town of Wrexham and feeling like theyve earned this success. Making the brand more than just about the results on the pitch, but somehow making viewers emotionally invested in Wrexham community is going to go a long way for sustainability in the march toward becoming a Championship/Premiership level squad.
Welcome back young man! Strap in for a busy transfer period. I’m sure we will start with a splash and end the same way. My biggest concern is losing Humphrey back to Hollywood. He’s the pipeline between Wrexham and R&R. I’ve got a feeling he’ll be leaving by next seasons end. He’s an honest and quality human. Nothing against Harvey, but I trust HK, I don’t entirely trust Shaun Harvey.
Hi ! Have to say as a Canadian fan , I really got hooked by the community content , the ups and downs , the behind the scenes . It’s a great show ! Love the team , going to see wrexham in Vancouver!! Hopefully I’ll be able to buy a wrexham shirt 😂
As a Pompey fan I think that you are going to have a good season next year in league one. If you do build your capacity to 45-55000 you can fill it people don't have to live in the town to follow the team, also the higher the level you play at the more away fans you get as well. Best of luck with the new season. Best wishes from Portsmouth. Play Up Pompey.
Another big improvement in this year’s over seas tour ( I’m super excited to see them in Vancouver) is all the games are in the same timezone. jumping from from east to west back to east coast like they did last season is very draining.
R&R are invested in the continued prosperity of the city and local area, so it’s good to see the TV show reflecting this. Including local interest stories is what is making the series so popular. The rejuvenation of a football club and a hard working class city will always pull in more people than just hardcore football fans
Liam, the news about the future of the club was definitely good news. We’ll see how it all comes together in due time. I subscribed to your new channel. Want to plan a trip to see a football match in person. How hard is it to find tickets? Opening the new stand probably will make it a little easier to get tickets, I hope anyway. Roger in Pierre South Dakota USA
Regarding the stadium, as far as I'm aware the plan is to build capacity in stages. This means that they could stop expanding at the point capacity exceeds attendance. They 'could' go to 45-55k, but they don't have to.
A complete face shot for ya as an extra. "No back of the head, No shoulder, Did you see that person in the back ground?" none of that. You can say "I am in that documentary." Not many can say that.
I would still want the content on the fans on Welcome to Wrexham, I think the way forward would be to extend the show to an hour and so thus having more football and dressing room coverage. This season is only 8 episodes, so we really need longer episodes.
I’m not a member of the platform that broadcasts the “Wrexham Story”. It will be interesting to see how good Wrexham really are when they visit the home of the Posh.
If they’re serious about bringing this team up to the premier league. They need to start planning for that success now even if it takes 10 yrs. They’ll slowly expand capacity as the team progresses.
W2W was not made for locals, it is made to bring in new audiences. Showing nothing but football will only bring in football fans and not generate new ones. everyone saying they want more "football content" aren't getting the whole point of this documentary.
Well done again Liam for such an excellent video. All that information in a very few minutes. Good luck with the rest of your exams. You're a lovely young man and deserve to do well. 🎉
Congrats on the documentary mention! When I saw it, I actually pointed at the TV and yelled "I subscribe to his chanel!" Am admittedly getting a bit nervous that there have not been any signing announcements so far. Would love to see one for Arthur but I know that's a stretch. As far as the documentary goes, I love the mix of football and human interest stories from the town. I have greater appreciation for the physicality of the game with the coverage of Paul and Arthur's injuries and the emotional toll on players during tough stretches. The most recent episode was the best one so far and honestly one of the best of the entire series. Watching James Jones terrifying experience with his wife and baby and celebrating Arthur's 100th birthday was something else. Anyway, enjoy your content and again, congrats on the exposure on WTW!
Soon as I saw you in W2W I go “oooo that’s the dude I get all the Wrexham news from!” I thought Tozer might survive the purge, but I don’t think it was terribly surprising to see him or any of the others go. As far as the documentary, I think it’s probably different for someone who’s a local, but I think a big part of the success of the documentary and the reason that it’s led to such a huge spike in fans is that it makes people feel invested in the community and the town as well as the team.
Great to see you back, mate, good luck in your final two exams so we can get you back more often! I agree that it would definitely add a lot to the doco to be able to see more behind the scenes stuff like Sunderland and the transfer stuff, especially with that last minute failure at the trade deadline, I'm sure everyone was "I cant wait to see this in the doco!" - but the outgoing CEO and Shaun do like their lack of transparency, so its not a big shock... For what it's worth, I think the start of Season 3 is a huge inprovement on season 2, just had a better vibe to it... Looking forward to hopefully what youve done in the past and looking at some players that we could sign and needs at the different positions!
Bro thanks to the documentary you are having one more fan here in LA , now I’m looking forward to see the season , do you know how we can see the games live .?
I can understand why you, as a fan of football, would wish for more of that is the documentary, but as someone who isn’t primarily a fan of the sport I have to disagree. The episodes that have stuck with me the most over the first two seasons are the one that told the stories outside the locker room and off of the pitch.
Hopefully we might hear something soon regarding the new kop, training ground etc, the club previously said the intention was to get cracking at the end of the season. We're now at that point and nothing looks imminent, hence the need for some form of update maybe.
Liam, I notice in the documentary that there are whole sections of the existing stadium where the seats are covered with tarps or otherwise in disuse during matches. Is there any particular reason why this is an ongoing issue? It seems to me that if Rob and Ryan wanted to boost attendance, one way to do it would be to make available those seemingly derelict seats for a start.
Building a 50.000 capacity stadium in a town with a population of 60.000 sounds a little optimistic to me. Even if Wrexham is a football mad city they would only achieve that if they were a regular Premier League team. Compare this with the Capital Cardiff City who have a 33.500 capacity stadium and an average home attendance of 22.000 and Cardiff has a population of 360.000 and a greater population of over a million. And to think if the dream went pear shaped and Wrexham ended up back in the conference with a 50.000 capacity stadium, it would be the death of them.
The fact the documentary is different from those other ones is what makes it great, and wha has created fans of the team around the world but not just watchers like all those other shows.
I've got a feeling, wider interest in Wrexham may have peaked! I hope they continue to go from strength to strength, but I think it's going to be all about the football in the next few seasons and if they can contine to deal with that, all will be well. The broader revenue streams are going to start to tail off soon, along with the "non" football interest.
Honestly man I had to go on your profile to make sure i didnt miss one of your vids. Im sitting here wondering about player moves and rumors. Youre the only plug I trust.
