A Ryanair 737-800 catches a gust of crosswind at the threshold of runway 28 at Dublin Airport and decides to go around. Winds were 220 degrees gusting to 20 knots, with a runway course of 281 degrees. www.mythicalire...
I've flown to Dublin from Leeds & back on Ryanair on many occasions & it's always been a good flight, Ryanair get a lot of criticsm but they've always got me to my destination safe & on time & i don't want frills on a 50 minute flight just a safe journey ,Well done Michael o'Leary!! Ryanair are setting up more flights from my local airport Leeds/Bradford & i welcome them.
Great Video Anthony now I know what it was like from the outside. Happened me this year (09/03/09) coming back from Leeds/Bradford on a night flight into Dublin. Got the shock of my life. Cheers Gareth.
Indeed. I'd like to see statistics about this issue. Two Ryanair pilots recently saved 180 lives by landing a 737-800 with no engine power after it flew into a flock of Starlings at Rome. So in my opinion they're great pilots.
I started bringing the kids to the airport to see the planes a few years back and got hooked. I visit Dublin Airport often and more recently I've learned to fly on Microsoft Flight Simulator, on which I fly the Boeing 737NG.
@mythicalireland Ryanair has a no blame policy on go around, you can make as many as you can, you don't have to explain why you did it (but it's better if you do), and it costs the airline 400kg of fuel, so it's not that much for safety. They have to land with minimum 2 tons of fuel (+-1h) if the fuel required to go to alternate airport + 30 mins of holding is lower than that. Usually you have way more. One of the safest airline in the world now.
Yup. A go-around is a standard procedure in situations where the landing might not be a good idea. In this case, it seems the aircraft was caught by a gust of wind around 0:12 secs into the video, knocking him off the runway centreline.
Well a go-around or missed approach is normally executed when, for some reason, landing would be deemed unsafe. This might be because a gust of wind has moved the plane off the centreline, or perhaps there is another aircraft or obstruction on the runway. It's surprisingly commonplace.
RU-vid annoys me. I work for RYR and explained this go around, yet people who don't know anything still debate it. Regarding the gear retraction, it may be a bit late, but I think that can be excused, I've never done a real go around, and while we brief it on every approach, once that TOGA is button, it takes a relaxed guy to get everything done right in a calm timely manner. Gear up is actually the first thing to be done, after pitching up, although engines at GA power take care of that. Caio
Completely agree. Think there's a lot of nonsense, especially in RU-vid comments, about this type of thing. And then you read media reports about how planes had to take drastic action to avoid a collision on the runway etc. I've done a couple of go-arounds in the simulator, a few times because I was too high on short finals, and once because another plane was still on the runway.
The problem for the passengers is that they're normally the last ones to be told what's going on, and many people draw their own conclusions as to what's happening . . . engine fire, dead pilot, computer problem, crash imminent, let's start praying . . . go-arounds happen often enough.
Wbryce I can see you may work for Ryanair. However if you do, you would also know that once we get a "cleared to land" by the tower, the Capt turns on the retractable landing lights. In this film they are not on, so my guess would the tower told them to go around, rather then them being unstable. A small gust of wind like this is not sufficient for a go around, be it above or below 500' agl.
No actually sunshine its actually a legal requirement to have 1h30min worth of extra fuel onboard. And prior to this approach,prior to even them leaving whatever airport before this,they would have anticipated adverse weather and fuelled appropriatly to allow for possible 2 Go-Arounds and Diversion if neccesary!!So get your facts right before you comment.
Spot on I think. Might have been an 'expect a late landing clearance' from the tower: a clearance which for some reason (e.g. previous aircraft not vacating quickly) never materialised hence the GA. No retractable landing lights on = no clearance received = go around.
Was on exact same flight from Leeds - Bradford last night 13/9/09......landing in heavy fog and about 150ft from runway and the go around was executed.....pretty cool though!!....the pilot had the window of the cockpit open when we landed....he looked pretty shook......
@johnmacward I am private pilot. 550 hours. An overshoot or go around really isn't that big a deal. It's a safety thing. A good go around sure beats a bad landing. ;-)
I've been on a ryanair flight where we hit the runway, then took off - I bet no one has expierienced that! I hate flying with ryanair for some reason. The landings are always rough compared to other airlines I have been on.
The approach became unstable in the vertical profile, you can see the aircraft nose low trying to recapture. If this was on the shorter runway then a very sound decision indeed. Ryanairs SOP is a mandatory go-around below 500ft in those conditions (VMC) should the approach become destabilised.
There is a video on RU-vid somewhere showing just such a go-around. I think it was an Airbus A320. It seemed to land, but rocked from side to side in the wind, and then took off again. Scary experience I suppose. Not sure whether the "Ryanair rough landing" thing is a myth? How many non-Ryanair flights have you been on that you can compare? Just a question I suppose. Or maybe the 737-800 is harder to land than the other variants !!
I've flown Ryanair literally hundreds of times. Their pilots "plant" the planes on the runway. It's not dangerous at all. I believe they are instructed to make a "positive" contact.
@GMuzicc good comment. I have flown with ryanair a few times with no problems at all. They are v. cheap and have modern aircraft. The may be a bit tacky but at least you dont get your flight cancelled or have your luggage lost like with BA!
yeah......sometimes its best to soak up some embarrasment by admitting a no confidence in yourself for the safety of others....and to be confident in your decision to just try again and with better results...thx for the video
This happened to me about 5 years ago coming back from Spain. We were landing in Dublin. I could see the runway and was just waiting for the plane to touch down but then the plane took off like a rocket. Everyone screaming as well. Scary experience. People farted or could have shit themselves, my father turns to me and says 'Jesus if the fucking plane dosen't kill us the smell of shit will finish us off'. To this day I find that hilarious!
every time i travel to dublin airport on ryanair (from Nottingham East Midlands) there is always terrible turbulence. Last time I went a girl threw up in the middle of the aisle and the plane dropped out of the sky for a second on approach. When I landed at Berlin Schonefeld, again on Ryanair, the plane almost skidded off the runway due to A, too much speed and a wet runway. Ryanair seem to fall off runways quite a bit. Maybe they don't use as much engine breaking on landing to save money?
Not really correct. Course we can retract outside the limits, but gear retraction is nearly the first thing we do on a go around. Imagine you're in IMC in Salzburg with 10000' mountains surrounding you, you wana climb outa there with gear down knowing that, "oh well as long as it's retracted before we acc to +250 knots (max speed for gear retraction) then we'll be ok!" The mountains may think something else...caio
yes defo. ryanair gets a bad rep for all their publicity stunts, and a lot of people get the impression that they are unsafe and cheap. but behind it all there is a great team of trained pilots who have a damn near perfect safety record. people should cut ryanair some slack - specially us irish. if anything, we should be proud.
hi there.....i have many friends who have ended up pilots in dublin airport and then went on to america.....so i am not trying to insinuate anything here....but only that i will say always that i have little trust in ryanair(since many years of travelling by plane)and aer lingus just manage to keep my chin up and the nose down when they are landing...lol
i am glad they did it......i prefer flying aer lingus .......for many reasons---what is your interest?in this vid and flying in general!thx 4 the comment anyways!peace be with you always
Peoples comments on Ryanair are just hard to read sometimes, For the 'worst'(according to some here) airline' out there they sure have impressive numbers (both passenger and finance wise), I mean RYR apparently 'slam' their a/c down and the pilots are poorly trained yet they have never had a fatal accident, given their size thats quite an achievement, many more highly rated airlines cant boast such a good safety record
@roelflok The so called "reserves" are the same with any operator, so your argument doesn't really have any facts to back it up. The usual amount you should have fuel onboard at the minimum at landing is the fuel you need to fly to your alternative arrival airport/airports, plus fuel for 30-45minutes for holding in holding pattern in case of unlandable weather conditions etc. In case you go below this so called "final reserve" you will then declare emergency and get priority one for landing.
Ryanair planes are registered in Ireland(EI-***) and therefore are under IAA regulations,and im not sure about French law,but thats a ridiculous figure,thats not even enough to divert!!
He won't be too pleased with his pilots wasting so much fuel doing a go around like that.. I'm sure he hates the planes having to taxi enough as it is! He'd love to park them right ont he runway!
if people dont like ryanair then fly with a different company like british airways. at least with ryanair you get what you pay for. a cheap flight that will get you to your destination
Go arounds are perfectly safe just unexpected by passengers of course. Trust me though, you were probably better off flying then having landed. As already said, a go around is preformed only when continuing the landing could be deemed as unsafe. RYR is not the only airline to do them you know. Makes me laugh, people thinking RYR are dangerous for doing a go around. RYR can't win. Imagine what people would say if we had a policy where we were never to do them and to land at any cost.....lmao
The lost of an brand new 737-800 + publicity damage would be ancountable , I am perfectly sure if Ryanair loses one plane because of a mistake like landing and not perform a go around they would go buzz in less than a year , the public finally would make their mind up poor pilots , lots of timepressure ,e.t.c. saving money on frills is fair enough but not safety .
As I've said below, other then hitting TOGA and pitching up, the gear retraction is the next on the list. Gear retraction is very important dude. What happens if the go around is dude to engine failure? You really want the gear hanging out on a single engine go around? Rather you than me pal....If anyone wants the actual answers to any RYR vid's just let me know. If I don't know, I'll ask one of my Capt's. At least then you'll get an actual answer, rather then some youtube bull$shit....caio
Go arounds are common if not routine. For your info peaceandparty it was on an Aer Lingus flight. On all my other go arounds ahem.... I was the pilot. I'm always amused by the breathless accounts in newspapers from passengers on go arounds. They were never in any danger at all and you read how people were screaming and crying. LOL Well I was screaming and crying on my go around because I missed my connecting flight. boo hoo.
Go arounds are common if not routine. For your info peaceandparty it was on an Aer Lingus flight. On all my other go arounds ahem.... I was the pilot. I'm always amused by the breathless accounts in newspapers from passengers on go arounds. They were never in any danger at all and you read how people were screaming and crying. LOL Well I was screaming and crying on my go around because I missed my connecting flight. boo hoo.
hehe :D Why pay lots of money to get into blackpool pleasure beach or something when you can pay £20 to go from prestwick to Dublin with Ryanair :P funfunfun
@kevp So what. I've seen the gobshites with nothing better to do posting brain-dead juvenile comments on RU-vid channels and videos. I have a job, thanks.
