Heads Up! If your CPU is not boosting beyond 5.5 GHz when more than 4 cores are active, here's why: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A8kf7Psn_Z0.html
I want the last Ryzen 7000 CPUs. I have the money for them, so no problem for here. But damn, I don't like how they skyrocket to high temps ! AMD says it's normal, but still I'm an OG, I prefer never exceed 80°C...
Hey, Skatter, are you able to run asynchronous BCLK on all motherboards, or only those with an external clock generator present? I prefer ITX boards but may go for a BCLK generator one as no ITX form factor one supports this.
Asynchronous ECLK is only present if the motherboard has 2 external clock generators. Without external clock generators, this won't work. With 1 external clock generator, you can still run Synchronous ECLK instead of relying on the internal clock generator. But in this scenario the ECLK is used for all CPU clocks including for the CPU cores as well as PCIe, SATA, etc. So not very useful.
just saw a new feature enabled on ASUS X670E-Gene called "per-core boost clock limit", do you have any info of this, or possibly could share how it work and benefit?
It's so awesome they finally added it in the BIOS. In theory, this could cap the maximum frequency per core, so you can push the good cores even higher. I'm very excited to try it out soon :)
Hey SkatterBencher. I've been watching your videos this launch after being directed here from the overclock forum. One thing I'd like is if yous howed how you can combine the asus AI overclock with followup tuning. That is, use the AI overclock and then increase fMax and other limits. Thanks for your guides!
I don't think there's a direct way of tuning on top of AI Overclock, but you can always copy the OC settings from the AI Features menu (they're all listed there) and adjust where you want.
@@SkatterBencher How do I get the processor to Overclock until it hits 95C ? I am only at 60 C and cores barely go over 5 ghz? Pbo is on enhanced, expo (dsod) is on.
Nevermind, New bios update, plus turning on performance boost overdrive, plus setting thermal limit to 95 will produce 95 c temps in cinebench but not in cpu z stress test.
Ty for the tips, im trying to push my 7700x with pbo curv opt. with factor -10 and expo factor 60, after less an hour of gaming my system crashes😢, do you think i need to revert expo or push curve opt to -20/-30 ? I really want to use pbo cause my pc gets so silent and really smooth
Hi, I just received my 7700X. I tried stock on P95 like you, but my results are really different, especially on the temperature! Small Test/AVX Enable => 5.125Ghz / 72C° / 1.175V We have the same cooling system (EK cooling) and u get 95C° ?? (Rog Strix X670E-E btw with the latest BIOS) I'll try to OC and i'll check the diff later. Thank for your content!
Thanks for sharing! Can you make a screenshot of the result (just like mine with hwinfo skatterbencher.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/0_stock_avx-2.png). It would be interesting to see your data
my setup: MOBO: Asus Strix X670E-E CPU: 7700X Case: Lian Li Dyn Evo 11 WC: EK Quantum velocity full nickel + Rad X360M with 3*120 BeQuiet Silent Pro 4 Fan 3 in front (mesh), 3 bottom, 2 on side, 1 back => 9x120 Cooler Master MF120 Halo
Thanks for the screenshot. I remember seeing something like this with the AVX512 workload as it seemed it wasn't actually loading the cores using the latest Prime95 version. There's two things we can check: 1) Can you disable all AVX and see if it now goes up to 95C? 2) Can you try using an older version of Prime95 to see if it goes to 95C? (I used V29.4 build 8, you can find it here www.mersenne.org/ftp_root/gimps/ p95v294b8.win64.zip)
@@SkatterBencher here are my results: PBO disabled: 1) AVX Off => 5.140Ghz / 77°C 2) P95 V294b8 => 5.015Ghz / 76°C The diff (almost 20°C) is definitly weird.
For AMD the answer is almost always Precision Boost Overdrive. Use the Curve Optimizer to undervolt your CPU cores, use Fmax boost override to extend the maximum frequency, and use Platform Thermal Throttle to set you desired maximum temperature.
I can't find the right settings in the MSI X670E Carbon WiFi. Trying to get the EClock up, but it screws up my memory speed even with manually putting it on 6000MHz. I love that the tooltips just repeat the text on the screen and are useless.
For someone just gaming, I think i'll just use ai over clocker and expo and leave it at that. I am building an 7700x pc shortly but this is all good info. For my gaming purposes I doubt all the extra time trying the per core PBO 2 curve optimizer to not really be worth it for games. But again I do appreciate the in depth explanation of each method and the results!
I don't recommend, I had the same thought as you. If you look at your CPU voltage when in game you will see 1.4-1.65V@ 95*C and spikes of 6.2GHz on random cores , 1.65V is crazy high and the AI retunes your CPU every restart so it keeps getting higher. I found the best OC is with a under volt which I use now and I'm max 1.3V@ 85-90*C with all cores hitting 5.6GHz and spikes of 6.2GHz. Try this video it's it's short and sweet and a safe low temp OC. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FaOYYHNGlLs.html&ab_channel=OptimumTech
@@RCrider185 My PC has been built now and absolutely no issues letting the ASUS AI set some OC and using Expo profile. I've run many newer games max ultra settings and even ray tracing and it works amazing. My temps on my 7900xtx are fine unlike some of the reports of people getting huge junction temps, my sapphire card is running perfectly, 60c usually on the cpu and 80c max on junction temp when my gpu is being 100% utilized in some games. My 7700x CPU hasn't really seen anything higher then 52c in games, stress testing it though I do believe it hit the high 80c but considering everything I read online says this cpu will always run at 95c i think i'm doing great there too. CPU benchmark i've run does utilize 100% cpu on all cores but in games i haven't seen anything even go over 10% utilization yet on the CPU so usually temp is around 50c. Playing for example spiderman remastered at ultra settings and ray tracing on an ultra-wide 1440p monitor it's running over 100fps. The only game i've tested so far that runs like 60-100fps is cyberpunk with near max settings and raytracing but I know that game isn't optimized for AMD raytracing, but it's still plenty playable for me right now. I'm so far blown away and have no need to OC further yet. the auto AC capabilities of the Asus Tuf Gaming X670E is amazing so far. I have watched some videos of how to tweak and get more performance with some tweaking of the curves and such but the actual gaming benchmarks only see like a 2-5fps increase which isn't worth my time right now. I may experiment with it later down the road but right now, i'm good :)
@@zengrath my bad I meant in cinebench I would see high temps, but yes same here most games are 6-9% utilization on my 7700X. I found with the AI and monitoring software I’m running insane Voltage, with zero gain in performance compared to under voltage, just something to keep in mind, to check up on over time with the AI learning tech. That resets your OC every reset
@@RCrider185 My CPU voltage at idle 1.0 to 1.1v, I just booted up multi-thread cinebench to check. it hasn't gone above 1.3 and that's at 100% utilization and 85c temps. Quick search online someone said they prefer to keep it under 1.4 volt, trying to find the actual spec range of this CPU. But 1.3 is ok right? I believe I also turned on a temperature target of like 90 or 85c as well which may explain why it's not going crazy with the voltage and gaming doesn't come close to 60c let alone 80-90c. Gaming should see far less voltage but will keep my eye on it. Thanks. Multi-threaded cinebench I hits 5.2 ghz and single core 5.5GHz is max I am seeing.
Last week upgraded ny 5600x/asus b450/32GB 3200 to 7700/B650M PG Riptide/KingBank 6400 CL32, and with tweaks I have quite happy with the final results: BIOS Settings: Memory = 6400 @CL30/38/38/80 1.4V FCLK = 2133 UCLK=MEMCLK/2 (My system fails if I run 1:1 UCLK=MEMCLK) PBO: Advanced/Motherboard, Scaller 10X, Positive 200 CO: All core, Negative, -30 iGPU = Disabled BIOS Thermal Limit = 89C Cinebench R23 Multi/Single = ~19,200/~2000 (~44-46W/~114-116W) Idle = ~49-51C (Windows 11; room temp ~23C) Games max 92C Load (Cinebench R23) All core=5.1-5.2hz @89.4C Single Core = 5.49Ghz (59-60C)
hi, SkatterBencher do you think you can make a full overclocking video with Ryzen 7 7950X / ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-52000C32 6600MHz. You don't have my RAM specification but you could use something similar, I would like to copy the overclock settings to put them on my PC. and by the way, what do you do, you are very good at it, good luck, thank you
I have scored 15500 in gb5 and 21100 in cinebench. Also 69.5 secs on y cruncher. All perfectly stable and with no overvoltage. Max temp 79c. You are doing it wrong. This CPU does not want voltage. Do everything you can without overvoltage.
got my 7950 to pbo to -24 on most en -23 on core 8 and 11. +200 ofset in prime 95 i hit 5.45 all core under load and super low load all cores of 5.627. single core wil not budge from 5.783. r23 single 2085 multi 39568 (cant get the big 40.000) a big thing i think is that i use a arctic liquid freezer 280 and do not hit the 95C limit. white pbo not even a spike higher then 93C after a 1 hour run. i use the AMD CCX offset mounting points. don't think custom water will add anything with the thick heat spreader in place. tip to any one thinking of getting a 7000 series. get a E mobo that suports pci e 5 for the 16x ande the nvme. i think direct storage will be big and a 2025 upgrade will not need a mobo and ram upgreade if u go for a 3d vcach moddel then. hot the cheapest X670E, asrock lichtning pg (only 25 euro more than the cheapest non E) and got no regrets. the ram was a problem for me to. got no timing or htz uplift to stick. and had to go to 1.380V insted of the 1.35 xmp i love the overcloking but the gains are around 5% if u work for it. very little and not worth it for 95% of the people. 20% on a 6700k now that is value.
@@FrostyBud777 u probebly have eco mode turn on. it limits the cpu to 105 watts or 65 watts. its a bios option. if u downloade ryzen master u can see the power draw and limits in realtime.
@@SoYFooD2 Ryzen master shows different info than asus armory crate, shows pretty low cores, but crate shows pretty high while playing cyberpunk? Should I do the new asus z670 p prime beta bios? "Version 2014 2022/10/19 8.96 MBytes PRIME Z690-P BIOS 2014 1. Improve system performance 2. Support Intel Arc graphics 3. Many ME updates and optimizations for the next-gen CPU are included. This version does NOT allow rolling back to the previous versions to ensure better compatibility." I think it just left beta and is now full release."" When I run CPUZ stress , It shows all cores at 5.26 ghz and power at 108. How do I get it to boost a little more? Will this do a 5.5ghz all core boost ? I have motherboard PBO off , doing stock pbo. I never used pbo before yesterday spent hours reading and testing bios settings lol I LOVE AMD NOW. this 7700X is SOOOO much better than the 7700k intel 4 core 7th gen i was using for 5 years. SO FAST. I still can't get over how awesome it is, just want to learn about all core OC and best setting for games. In cyberpunk it only goes to 3.5 ghz, as I type this. ? is that normal? Also nvidia performance overlays shows incorrect cpu usage, and windows 11 task manager shows 100% gpu usage just sitting on desktop (even thoguh evga shows 2%) are these just bugs with the new mobo/cpu and bios updates, drivers, and newly reseased software updates will help?
@@FrostyBud777 the incorrect gpu usage readout may MAY may be fix t with the bios upgrade. the 3.5 during cyberpunk is most likely a average and if your gpu is running 100% 3.5 average is not that low. turn all the grafix to low at 1080 and see how it boost per core. i love overclocking, i have overclock every thing i have owned. yes my pentium 4 2.0 ghz ran at 2.5ghz. but. 4% to 5 % hz for 3% performance the 0.005% of the time u run at max 8 core is not worth the time and crashes it may cause. get a descent single core boost. getting cpu limited in games is hard. and adding 1% to 4% in the worst case is not going to make a difference. i can run my 7950 at -24 ofset. but i run it at -15. and my ram at +0.03V just to be safe and not have unnecessary crashes. half a fps is not worth a disconnect in a rankt match
@@SoYFooD2 I don’t understand even if I do a benchmark I’m getting 5.3 GHz all core but my temperature is only 86°C with all of them running at 5.277 for a while. Is that normal? 5.27 GHz with CPUZ stress test even though I have only 86°C? I thought it was supposed to boost even higher until it hits 95. Also can you please help me with Asus PBO enhancements I can set it to 90° level one and it does CO all core value -15 but there are two separate sections inside the bios And I have to enable Bose to do OC core boost override and send it to 200. I’m looking for videos but most people think everybody knows this and I’ve never done this for 15 years. I’ve watched so many videos but I still just don’t understand. I’m working on this all last night and today to try to understand.
@@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster if compare 12900k with 7950x in gaming you will see that the 7 gen of amd now is at same or with 5% better than 12 gen of Intel and must come 13 gen of Intel.
@@ionutortian5885 and how " on par or better than 12900k" equals too "12gen of intel is best" you need help my friend if you buy stuff based on fanboysm and not what you feel it's better for your money. 13th is actually better then zen 4 for various reasons but socket is dead, the other one is brand new supporting a few more generations, that's a win for me and why i bought the 7700x istead of the 13600k ( same price where i live).
