S&B 7.62x39 - Brass Vs Steel Case 

Goin brass for AKs is like being a vegan

worry about corrosion? WESTERN SPY!

you need to play them hardbass and give them plenty of dirt to play in too, AKs have other needs than just food!

Dont forget the adidas outfit!

Tip some vodka in the working parts and down the barrel once every few lightyears and your good to go 👍

This^

"Gimme 2000 rounds of the cheapest shite you have!"

I shoot tula almost exclusively out of my 5.56 AR15....

@Crown royal my girl is a cheap date. I tried frontier ammo recently. It was inaccurate and over gassing my rifle.

@Crown royal if you feel the need to pick up steel cases, magnets works great!

Your loss then.

Pete Lyczek it really is...literally haha. Not saying it isn’t good ammo. S&B have definitely given me better groups during slow fire when focusing on being as precise as possible. But the vast majority of what I do with an AK is usually run and gun between 50-100yds just trying to get center mass hits on torso targets. I’ll save the brass cases for shots where I’m taking a little more time.

Depends if its a normal violent ejection or a adjusted piston. But for the 7.62 ars with a good mag i see these working good

Nick Levine most 7.62 AKs are overgassed from the factory to ensure maximum reliability even with poorly manufactured ammo. I’ll admit that the KNS pistons are nice especially when shooting suppressed or if your gun is violently overgassed but most of mine aren’t overgassed by much, even suppressed with the Dead Air PBS-1, but they are enough so that the cases usually end up with a small dent from hitting the dust cover or charging handle

...if you are lucky enough to find the cases after they have been ejected and dispatched to the county line

Wowzers! He hit something like 70% hits on a silhouette gong at 10 yards or so.

Brass is roughly double the price. Let’s say it’s 30 bucks to replace an extractor. You save that money in 150 rounds?

@@-John-Doe- and if you run it in an AR, the barrels are 150 to 200. Also. Cheap

My friend has a KAC SR15 and it wont cycle steel cased 223 barnaul ammo. Should he sell it?

@@michamichaowski8375 yes

I remember when you could buy a case of Chinese steel core and an SKS for $79. When we were done we'd spear the SKS into the swamp. Then go get more.

@@NuclearGrizzly exactly how I picked up my first SKS! I wish I would have bought about 25 SKS and about 50 AK's back then. They were Chinese and still packed in grease. Those were the days! ✌

@@budstermcgreen6360 I keep one. A particularly accurate example with the red fiberglass "jungle" stock. All the rest are sleeping with the gators. I could kick myself now.

NuclearGrizzly I wish I grew up in those days. I always hear about it from my dad and I get jealous, I’m only 23.

I remember cases stacked to the ceiling at shops and rows and rows of SKS's in 1980 Norinco steel core was 1.99 per 20 rd box copperwashed the good shit. SKS's were as follows...... Chinese paratroopers or full size $59, Yugos were$79 and racks of tula's for $99 and you could pick from 100's

Joseph M. In all of my years of shooting, your statement is the first I’ve ever heard a mention of this claim. My personal experiences with S&B do NOT support your accusation.

@@josephm.6453 S&B is fantastic! You’re also the first person I’ve heard drag S&B.

Brown bear always did best in my WASR. Sub 3moa every time. Now I can't get it.😭

Not anymore. I would order some brass case

I was thinking he was a gunny for sure. 😎👍

But it's bad, because reasons.

@@regularfather4708 Not really, especially with shooting the stuff through combloc weapons. My Romanian SAR 1 and micro draco fire it just fine with zero issues whatsoever. My prissy ass RAS 47 pistol is another story, doesn't function all that reliable with steel case stuff, but is perfectly fine with brass case stuff. I'll never shoot steel case stuff out of any of my ARs or mini 14s because the stuff is really hard on the extractors and broke a few. Besides that, I had a few cases get stuck in the chamber as well.

@@hoffmiermp I was being sarcastic. Steel is about 80% of everything I shoot. AR, AK, glock, keltec, sks. Everything eats steel.

@@regularfather4708 👌

Not any more

every indoor range I've been too allows steel cased so idk what your talking about

@@drunkpolack7612 At least in Eastern Michigan there are no ranges here that allow for steel cased ammo. From Detroit upward to Flint I have not found a single indoor range that allows it

@@SheppardOfDeath ok central texan here

*Laughs in WASR-10*

*boogaloo noises*

slow 2v ya Larry is shilling a bit here. None of the modern steel cased offerings are corrosive. Milsurp and earlier commercial stuff was, but not anymore for for the latter.

Marcin Faron every box that I’ve opened says non-corrosive. Where’s yours saying otherwise l?

Marcin Faron Again, where is your proof? You’re saying that Tulammo, Wolf, RAS, Golden Tiger, Silver Bear, etc etc all lie? You might as well apply that logic to anything you purchase. So far all you’ve done is gotten emotional without a single shred of proof. I have 3 Izmash AK’s. No corrosion on any of them and I don’t clean them very often.

My AK gets nothing but berdan primed, steel case, bimetal jacket. I only clean it on leap years, and the only rust is on the disused bore brush. My mosin nagant, however, still gets fed some corrosive ammo that I have left over, and if it doesn't get cleaned the second I get back from the range there will be corrosion before nightfall. Y'all haters have obviously never fired corrosive ammo, let alone noncorrosive Russian ammo, or you would know the stark difference.

I had to take my sks to the gunsmith.. First and last time I used brass in her.

Don't question the corporate shills!

Depends on what the other baseline options are. Normally the military will go with the lowest bidder if it's buying in quantity and if they can still meet the requirements. Alternatively, if it's something more specialized, the inflated military industrial complex normally offers the best available. While there is still bidding for contracts, the Pentagon may purchase quality if it offers a considerable advantage. Case in point, the stealth bomber.

@@rzr2ffe325 What quality, like $10,000 hammers and that Flying Spade that the Serbians shot down with an old Soviet ZPU?

I guess the ammo etc special forces use.

Lol. So about that Russian steel case

@@chrisrogers4242 this comment aged well lol

For some reason my 10" Zastava M92pap loves that same 154gr SP as well.

I could get 5 cases in the air at one time easily with my SKS they went so high. They would always land in a pile too, except for the Winchester, they landed all over my LEFT side.

@@Chris_Garman my sks tends to shoot my cases straight up probably 10+ feet in the air like we're talking a perfect line up from the floor and tends to spin the cases. We'll see how the vz-58 does and the next couple aks once they're built.

Yap M-70 with gas cutoff

@@mannym5692 Actually even the quite rare variant with forged receiver.

And we still do. Great for midsize game.

No. We really didn't. Wolf makes sp ammo. Have for years. Get some Wolf and go kill Bambi.

S&B slam fires in my My10X

Should read "my M10X."

@@2549Discovery I was concerned about that. My Polytech has a spring loaded primer so there isn't any issue. My other dozen or so AK's will occasionally slam fire with Winchester white box. Even though their firing pins occasionally leave a mark on a steel cased ammo they have never had a slam fire.

Keep the firing pin and firing pin channel clean

@@nathanlewis5682 The issue is with inertia.

If you already have a few guns and a moderate amount of ammunition, i would recommend you buy some non perishable food and other essential items. Guns are important, but so are other things.

Shhhhh don't tell my wife bro

@@ts1905 true true

Night vision brother..... having the ability to operate 24 hours of the day is a massive force multiplier

@@nickrhodes4619 any u can recommend

Indoor ranges... all the ones near me don't allow bimetal jacket ammo. Real annoying.

tri poloski

Cheeeeeeki breeeeeekiiii!

Stalker game?

@@СергейГорбанёв-б4ч yes, cheeki breeki runs in our veins

Cheeki Breeki, blyat!

Because Czechoslovakia was a part of the Warsaw pact and they had to adopt soviet 7.62x39 ammo. No other reason really.

I have both and I think the AR is superior despite its drawbacks

Boy I miss those prices 😢 I remember about a year or 2 ago I saw the same exact case for 800$

Brass ammo is rare now, I been stocking up on steel

Not cheap though.

Yup. All my guns can shoot Steel. If it can't cycle garbage ammo, then what good is it?

Soviet weapon is not over gassed. Soviet weapon is gassed or it is not gassed.

Corrosive ammo is not harmful to the gun in any way as long as you clean it after you shoot it. You can shoot 10,000 rounds of corrosive and non-corrosive ammo side by side in identical guns, and they would wear the same as long as you cleaned the corrosive gun with water based solvent after each session. It's not scary, it's not extra wear, it's not worth any worrying over. I have shot TONS of cheap, corrosive milsurp in 8mm Mauser, x54r, x39, x25, and 8x56R. It all goes bang and it all cleans up just fine. No rust anywhere on my guns. 👍

@@mannys9130 only thing is, it's a pain in the ass to get out the hot, soapy water after every range session. As long as you're down with that, corrosive is nothing.

Who? S&B? They have zero bussines in starting a steel case production line. ZERO. Not economically viable. They are a major NATO and hunting ammo maker. No reason to make cheap combloc ammo.

Stop contradicting the elitist gun snob narrative!