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S-Bahn vs U-Bahn vs Stadtbahn: What's the difference? 

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S-Bahn vs U-Bahn vs Stadtbahn: What's the difference?
In a little prologue to some upcoming videos, I try to explain the various categories of tram/metro/rail systems in Germany, where some trams run underground and others run onto mainline railways.
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Комментарии : 62   
@matthewfair9195
@matthewfair9195 4 года назад
"think northern rail but if it was actually good"
@shanizee4960
@shanizee4960 4 года назад
Hey! I'm from Germany. The "U-Bahn" is like the underground in London, but in Frankfurt it can also drive above ground. The "S-Bahn" is like a regional train but drives oftener. The "Straßenbahn" is like a tram. In Germany it is also called Tram. The "Stadtbahn" is a mixture of "U-Bahn" and "Straßenbahn". Please excuse my bad English.
@lp4michi406
@lp4michi406 4 года назад
Technically, the Frankfurt „U-Bahn“ isn’t a U-Bahn due to have some parts not separated from the street. The „U“ does not stand for „underground“ more likely its for „unabhängig“ (indenpendeant). All four classic U-Bahn-Systems have parts running overground but as time progresses they became less and less.
@kuanysh_sartay
@kuanysh_sartay 3 года назад
S-Bahn is not commuter rail only it is better to call it "urban-commuter rail". Because, in Germany and France commuter rail is a train service from main train stations to far suburbs which lies about 50-200 km from the city. As an example, far suburbs of Berlin serves by DB Regio, close suburbs by S-Bahn. In Paris close suburbs in a distance of 20-50 km from the city serves by RER, far suburbs by Transilien, which is definitely commuter rail. Metro or subway(U-Bahn) is easy and understandable, serves only or usually city's administrative borders, have separated infrastructure than conventional rail. It is important to know.
@connectingwings7212
@connectingwings7212 3 года назад
@@kuanysh_sartay Every U-Bahn System in Germany runs outside it's city borders, with Berlin being an exception because for the reunification, they moved the Border to exactly contain the Hönow U-Bahn station in Berlin.
@ThomasTuttle
@ThomasTuttle Год назад
Ihr Englisch ist ganz gut. Vielen Dank fuer die Erklaerungen. Das hatte ich schon gedacht.
@Luca_Fuchs
@Luca_Fuchs Год назад
Welch ein Zufall ich komme aus ringeln an der a2😂
@harryscorah2091
@harryscorah2091 4 года назад
So in Germany it’s far more structured and logical... ...and far more random and confusing. 🤔
@Zugzielanzeiger
@Zugzielanzeiger 4 года назад
As a German train fan I can say: Good explainations!
@Matxeex
@Matxeex 3 года назад
Hi, Some trains are about to arrive from Germany to my city, which are remanufactured can you help me and tell me what model is it ? facebook.com/MetrorreyOficial/photos/pcb.1485120725026864/1485120625026874
@Matxeex
@Matxeex 3 года назад
i did some research and the only info i found was BVG-Baureihe F but im not sure.
@Zugzielanzeiger
@Zugzielanzeiger 3 года назад
@@Matxeex Which country/city?
@Matxeex
@Matxeex 3 года назад
@@Zugzielanzeiger Monterrey, Nuevo León, México.
@Zugzielanzeiger
@Zugzielanzeiger 3 года назад
@@Matxeex I will do some research.
@KnowledgeOfAviation
@KnowledgeOfAviation 4 года назад
Lol I am literally staying at the station seen at 2:07 right now.
@saptarshichowdhury9138
@saptarshichowdhury9138 3 года назад
You should visit the Munich u-bahn
@connectingwings7212
@connectingwings7212 3 года назад
wow, thats like the CBD of Frankfurt
@matthiashartge5520
@matthiashartge5520 2 года назад
As rewboss one put it: "U-Bahn trains usually run underground, except in those places where they don't; S-Bahn train usually run on main line tracks, except in those places where they don't, and so on..." ^^
@mariusmika
@mariusmika 4 года назад
I’d love to see a video about the Karlsruhe Stadtbahn. :)
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 4 года назад
Stay tuned! Should be out next week :)
@patrickjones1143
@patrickjones1143 4 года назад
Simply brilliant video for anyone going to Germany and using public transport
@DC4260Productions
@DC4260Productions 4 года назад
The only European mass-transit system I'm familiar with is the Frankfurt U-Bahn, and that's solely from driving on the system in Train Simulator. It's certainly weird seeing the mix of underground and street running in Frankfurt. Heck, there's even an above-ground section out near a university that has rails very sturdily laid on the grass without any sleepers. I think there was also a stand-alone game a few years ago that was focused on one of the U-Bahn lines in Berlin. I didn't really care for it because the route is entirely underground, and I like having short sections above ground on an otherwise underground line.
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 4 года назад
I know the Frankfurt U-Bahn from living in the city for six years! It was strange going back after all that time.
@ThomasTuttle
@ThomasTuttle Год назад
The basic difference between U-Bahn and S-Bahn systems is that U-Bahn networks belong to the city's public transport networks, where national and multinational rail tickets are not valid. It's like trying to use a BritRail pass or ticket on the London Tube.....2 different companies, and 2 different functions and fares. On the other hand German, Austrian and Swiss S-Bahn trains are owned and operated by the national rail systems of those nations. That means that national and multinational rail tickets and passes are accepted on S-Bahns. It's like taking a BritRail train from London's Victoria station to Gatwick airport. S = national rail, while U = city transport. Strassenbahn, Tram, Trolley, Buses all belong to the city's transport networks, so national rail tickets are not valid on these.
@transportationuk7656
@transportationuk7656 4 года назад
Look at the top left. Same design as the C5000s for Manchester Metrolink. Bombardier Transportation if I’m correct.
@bananaman432
@bananaman432 4 года назад
Exactly what I thought
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 4 года назад
The Cologne trams are known as the "K5000", the Metrolink trams are "M5000". They're almost identical in design!
@transportationuk7656
@transportationuk7656 4 года назад
David Frankal Well I knew it was 5000 something. I remember now. I know the old trams were the T68 series.
@DanielsUKT
@DanielsUKT 4 года назад
Nice video explaining different metro systems in Germany but still a bit confusing
@bowlerstuff9589
@bowlerstuff9589 3 года назад
The Berlin/Hamburg S bahn systems look like metros because they use Third rail systems instead of the usual overhead wires
@britishfilmguy
@britishfilmguy 4 года назад
Seems like the German train network is alot more complicated, good vodeo though 👍
@britishfilmguy
@britishfilmguy 3 года назад
@Şahin Portakal cool probably the easiest way to do it.
@robertcarroll4733
@robertcarroll4733 3 года назад
DS: Thank you for the speedy reply, you generate so much content its hard to keep up with U or is it S,oh well you understand even if I don't....lol
@Ph1l7554
@Ph1l7554 2 года назад
Eh the Straßen Bahn actually mean tram
@kaifriedrich1763
@kaifriedrich1763 4 года назад
Good Video
@user-qh4qx8dp3p
@user-qh4qx8dp3p 2 года назад
0:59 Frankfurt U-Bahn: Am I joke for you?
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 2 года назад
Yes
@TramBusTV
@TramBusTV 3 года назад
💪 cool
@lindsayhengehold5341
@lindsayhengehold5341 Год назад
Love the S Bahn!
@jmstransit
@jmstransit 3 года назад
Lol meanwhile in Tokyo (and Japan as a whole) you cant tell the difference between subway and commuter rail just by looking at the design of the cars
@kuanysh_sartay
@kuanysh_sartay 3 года назад
Ahahahah, yeah. Even Japanese call it just "rail transport" not confuse with metro or commuter rail it is)) But, I can say that in Tokyo's metro(subway) serves only the city of Tokyo and mostly underground with different infrastructure. While are trains of JR and other companies are "urban-commuter rail". Japanese didn't separated it as urban and commuter rail like Germans and French did.
@juliusammelung9746
@juliusammelung9746 3 года назад
Legally, many metros are actually operated as trams (e.g. in Berlin).
@cbltrains1368
@cbltrains1368 Год назад
They are classified in the BOstrab (operation law for trams) but the signalling is a copy paste of the EBO (Railway operation law)
@juliusammelung9746
@juliusammelung9746 Год назад
@@cbltrains1368 I would not say that the signaling system is copy paste. Obviously there are a lot of similarities, but there are also significant differences to normal railroads (EBO), particularly with regard to the distant signals. The differences are in the details.
@irgendjemand3939
@irgendjemand3939 4 года назад
Btw, in Karlsruhe, it’s not Stadtbahn, it’s S-Bahn (it also has the Green S Logo)
@aoilpe
@aoilpe 4 года назад
I like this video. Just something about the S-Bahn; a real S-Bahn is a commuter rail system entirely separated from other rail services even if they run along the same lines. The first network’s had all a 3. rail for electricity by the side of the tracks to make a difference to normal trains with overhead wire . They run on 500-700 V DC. For example Berlin, Hamburg . Later,by extension, the meaning changed to a kind of Suburban Rail System’s. S-Bahn=“Quick Rail”... Oh, for the Berlin S-Bahn: you forgot to mention the circle ⭕️ around the City...
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 4 года назад
I'm making a full video about the Berlin S-Bahn soon, don't worry, the Ringbahn will be mentioned!
@5mnz7fg
@5mnz7fg 3 года назад
I think the London tube, having originally emerged from railways, is much more S-Bahn like than Geman U-Bahn networks. These are more orientated to trams or light railways than to true railways.
@haisheauspforte1632
@haisheauspforte1632 3 года назад
No, you are talking the Stadtbahn, confusingly called U Bahn in Frankfurt and some other places. Real U-Bahns are only in Hamburg, Berlin, Nuremberg and München and they are just like the London Underground
@5mnz7fg
@5mnz7fg 3 года назад
@@haisheauspforte1632 Nope, they are not. Also "real" German U-bahns have no connections to true railway tracks and never had. This is different to London Underground where some common tracks and platforms are still shared. Forthermore, every German U-Bahn is legally in the same category as trams and not defined as a railway. Even if they are more similar to railways as they are to trams.
@haisheauspforte1632
@haisheauspforte1632 3 года назад
@@5mnz7fg but this is not the defining feature of U-Bahns and S-Bahns. Even though the U-Bahns are legally trams, they are real metros, just as the Underground. S-Bahns are more like Themselink/Crossrail/Overground when compared to London.
@5mnz7fg
@5mnz7fg 2 года назад
@@haisheauspforte1632 Yes, London Overground (or Mersey Rail in the Liverpol area) is an equivalent to a German S-Bahn but like I said: London Underground has historically emerged from railways, and the first lines were considered as railways. To this day, they too strongly resemble an S-Bahn system (especially the sub surface lines) more so than German subways at any rate.
@sobu_hasy
@sobu_hasy Год назад
In Frankfurt not so much, after German standards, it's considered a Stadtbahn. But in reality only the U5 line is trully a Stadtbahn with street-level running. Other lines runs in a manner pretty similar with the Tyne and Wear Metro. And the length of the trains are truly metro-style (100m, which is not a light-rail length, more a heavy-rail line). And by the way, the U-Bahn systems in Germany (even those third-rail ones like in Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Nuremberg) are, basically, legally light rails (they operate under the BOStrab, which is a law made for light-rail vehicles like Straßenbahn, Stadtbahn, U-Bahn and APM) while the heavy-rail vehicles, like those on the S-Bahn (including those in third-rail operation like Berlin and Hamburg), Regional, freight and ICE trains runs on the mainline train law, called EBO. That means, that the only heavy-rail (sub-)urban rail transit system (just like the London Underground) in Germany is the S-Bahn.
@OrechTV
@OrechTV 6 месяцев назад
S-Bahn is Stadtbahn, isnt it? 😂
@telboy4227
@telboy4227 4 года назад
Don't forget the O-Bahn BUS lanes in Adelaide!!
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 4 года назад
...and in Essen, Germany!
@saptarshichowdhury9138
@saptarshichowdhury9138 3 года назад
Americans - what planet is this 🧐..??
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