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S2 E26 Odds and Ends | Bexhill West Model Railway | Midland Railway drawings & 3d Printed Locomotive 

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Hello everyone,
I’ve been really busy over the past few weeks, and this video should have been uploaded 3 weeks ago. In the video I look at some interesting old Midland Railway drawings, show some of my design work and thinking for a forthcoming locomotive project and hint at what’s in store for the next video.
Despite the delay in the upload schedule, work has been continuing at a pace, and there has been some exciting progress with the lever frame, the mechanical interlocking system and the block shelf, the development of which has reached the point whereby I feel confident to embark on the full complement of 123 levers for No. 1 box at Bexhill West. I think the direction of travel of this particular element will be of interest to many and I hope to provide a detailed overview in S2 E28.
The ballast vacuum system and point actuators are proving popular and I’ve been working on developments of those too, so hope to have an update on them in S2 E27.
You can check them out at www.makeitminiature.co.uk
Please bear with the upload delays, I’m aiming to get to a fortnightly upload frequency in the near future, but presently I’m at a point whereby the complexity of some elements of the project are just eating my time. It’s all good though and I’m enjoying every element which I have been working on, and looking forward to sharing them all.
Thanks for watching,
James

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@freddiesmith6122
@freddiesmith6122 8 месяцев назад
What wonderful drawings - history evidenced - they still "speak" to an aware viewer... As for "No one will ever look under here..." Oh we will!!!
@graham76man
@graham76man Год назад
I would take the book to your local archive office (probably in the main central library) they should be able to give you some advice on how to deal with the problems.
@robinadderley6755
@robinadderley6755 Год назад
Hi James I had a set of original blue prints for our 1939 Drewry diesel rail cars at at the Tasmanian Transport Museum, unfortunately my house got flooded and the drawings got damaged. When I showed the drawings to the insurance company they said don’t worry we will send these off to a document conservator. The drawings came back about 3 months later in a better condition than before the flood. So maybe you should look for a document conservator to send them to ,also get that book scanned so that a digital record is available to look at without having to touch the originals ,that is what we did with our railcar documents ,if we are working on something on the railcar we can print off the page or part of page without ever having to look at originals that are now archived. Regards Robin Adderley Hobart Tasmania. I really enjoy your channel and wish you the best.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Thank you for the suggestions Robin. It sounds like you have an interesting role down there, or is it up there? :) I used to work with an Aussie, and she was always saying that I should visit 'Tassie'. She said that parts of it were just like Kent in the UK, and it'd be a good place for me to visit as it wouldn't feel 'foreign'. :) I'd also like to visit the Cane trains of Queensland, but she would say, "Nah, it's to hot for you up there, chook!". When I do, I shall be sure to visit the Tasmanian Transport Museum - in fact I'll go and have a little look on Google now. Thanks for watching, James
@wamgoc
@wamgoc Год назад
Great to see you again James! Very interesting Drawing folder! I hope it can be restored and saved for future generations!!! Boy, 3D modelling takes a lot of time! I’m sure that finished model will be well worth it though! Thanks for sharing!!!!
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Hi Keith, nice to hear from you. I enjoy the 3d CAD modelling, and it could be done a lot quicker if I hadn't bothered making the valve gear work! It's completely unnecessary of course, but will make for an interesting animation in a future video. :) All the best, James
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be Год назад
​@@BexhillWestDecades ago I was modelling N gauge before doing narrow gauge. Working valve gear was injection molded. Now anyone with resin printer can do it. Wonder if resin gears will work?
@Chris-BognorRegis
@Chris-BognorRegis Год назад
Hi James, you never cease to amaze me, is there no end to your talent. The 3d printed loco looks absolutely amazing. I wish I had your skill in doing that as no doubt you are aware trying to purchase anything SR over the counter is impossible especially in N Gauge. At the moment I have got hold of a Dapol A1 Terrier which I am hoping to convert into a E1 shunter which look very similar of which there were quite a few at Bognor. I am also hoping to upgrade it with a with a coreless motor so that it gives me more room to upgrade it to DCC as it is so small. I am still around and watch all your updates.
@blairgowrieforestrailwayan2786
I love the makeup artist! I also loved looking at the drawings. Before you start restoration on the drawings, I recon they need to be scanned, and then if something goes drastically wrong, the information has been preserved. Who would have that that an engineers drawing could be considered as art. I only wish I could drool over the workmanship in those drawings.
@Robutube1
@Robutube1 Год назад
That blue coloured end paper (01:53) is decorated with what is called marbling, usually done by dropping hydroscopic inks on to a bath of water and passing the paper through it.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Thank you @Robutube1, that's helpful information. :)
@Robutube1
@Robutube1 Год назад
@@BexhillWest My pleasure. It is a pretty well known crafting technique I think. There's BOUND to be a YT video on it😅. BTW - I wonder of the NRM Archivists would be interested in offering advice on preserving the drawings?
@MrUKFred
@MrUKFred 9 месяцев назад
I would suggest that you contact the Wakefield Central Library who will help you get the most appropriate restoration, since they have an interest in the subject matter.
@vincenthuying98
@vincenthuying98 Год назад
Dear James, as far as my knowledge allows, such damage is either caused by water or a combination of the original paper quality, the glue used to line the paper with the linen, the quality of the linen and a possible intrusion of moisture, which may have induced the decay. First of all, never touch the paper or the linen with your bare hands, our skin carries a rather acidic environment which definitely can affect the paper. The restoring of this marvelous book/folder should be approached by first taking it apart and thoroughly dry all the different layers and pages. The quality of the original paper, linen and glue should be determined before you decide on any measures. You may indeed need a new backing for the paper, like the Japanese paper you indicated, but it all stands and falls with the initial assessment of all the different layers and components. Love the book/folder, the content and am very interested in a full facsimile. Great work on the 3D drawing for your locomotive, looking forward to your next episodes. Cheerio
@MichaelHenfrey
@MichaelHenfrey Год назад
Hi James, Thanks for showing us those drawings, It was really interesting to see them and I hope you can restore them. The 3D Printed loco looks good, alot easier than messing about with brass, whitemetal and a soldering iron. Cheers
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Thanks Michael. I note that you have recently re-joined the Scalefour Society. Will you be attending Scaleforum? I hope so. It'd be nice to meet for a chat. Best wishes, James
@MichaelHenfrey
@MichaelHenfrey Год назад
@@BexhillWest Indeed I have, I might not be modelling anything in P4 at the moment but it’s a great place for resources and information and the modelling on show is always impressive. I hadn’t planned on going to scaleforum but I shall see what I can do, as you say it’d be great to meet up. Cheers
@callumkirk4391
@callumkirk4391 Год назад
Lovely work Jamie! I do love the early Chatham 4-4-0. I slow building up a collection. 😅 My next loco project funny enough is the later rebuilt F1, an old jidenco kit. I got to ask you wouldn’t take on selling some of your prints would you? I’d love to add some of those SECR ballast hoppers and some of those cattle vans you printed in a early Video.
@chrissouthgate4554
@chrissouthgate4554 Год назад
The Book; First thing, get images of the Drawings & Cover. Ideally, with a large-size scanner, though this is probably impractical in this case due to size & expense. A more DIY solution is to photograph the drawings, preferably from the same distance & orientation, and include a scale bar in the photos with plenty of overlap. Also, as high a resolution as you can manage. Make several copies of the saved info & store safely. There are programs that will stitch photos together automatically, however, it can also be done by eye in either a photo retouch program or a Desktop Publishing program. Again, save all work. Also, save to PDFs. Distribute as widely as possible. (NASA lost a lot of Apollo-era documentation when it was converted to Micro-fisci, after the readers became obsolete the film was binned). If you want a hard copy of the information, a possible option would be a display banner printer, the software on their printers would be able to upscale the drawings to whatever you want. It would also be printed on a more durable vinyl. To restore the book itself you could try looking on RU-vid for videos on how to do the work but I suspect that the book is too far gone for most of their advice to work. The other alternative is to try a professional book restorer, even if the work should prove too expensive, they should give you a quote to give you some idea of what would be needed (Crowd Funding is a possibility), or at least advise on storage to minimize further damage.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Thank you Chris, that's helpful. My preference would be for large format scanning as it'll enable the drawing to be shared will all the detail being crisp. Also it'll be the only way (I think) to accurately capture the really large fold out drawings. The problem being their delicacy. They are currently too unstable to run through a scanner. I hadn't really considered photographing them, and to do so would be beyond my skills and equipment, but it's a good pragmatic solution. I'll contact some photographers locally and ascertain whether they have experience of this type of work. For now, I'm following advice to air-dry what I have. If there's interest I'll do a full review of all the drawings, there must be 80-100 of them in total, each of which are beautiful and very interesting. Another ambition of mine is to 3d model them, but that will have to wait until I think the drawings are ready for manipulation etc. Thank you for your input, James
@andrewstevenson5449
@andrewstevenson5449 Год назад
Good to see you again, James. You seem to have so many projects running simultaneously, I don't know how you keep on top of it all! The book of plans/architectural drawings is a great find. A quick glance through the comments shows others have already suggested getting in touch with your local records office (aka county archives). I see the West Sussex Records Office is in Chichester, and the East Sussex Record Office is in something called The Keep in Brighton. They may run courses on conservation of documentation, or you might be able to make an appointment with someone from their conservation department at least to talk through possible ways of conserving the plans: it is, after all, their day job to preserve such documents. They may also have large format scanners or other reprographic tools. I wonder if it would also be worth contacting the National Railway Museum (possibly also RIBA if I'm remembering the architects' body's acronym correctly) to see if they have a copy of the book and the plans that you have. If the NRM doesn't have them (and assuming they wanted to take on the task of conserving them) there would be a strong rationale for donating them to the national collection, though that would mean giving them up, which I can understand might be painful. If they are very rare, I would have thought it all the more likely that record office staff, or staff in the archives at NRM would be interested in helping you. The printing on the end papers is called marbling. I remember doing it at junior school mumblety years ago. A tray of water, and then I think oil paints dotted over the surface of the water and swirled together, then lay plain paper on it. But it was a long time ago, so I might be misremembering the technique. I'm always amazed at what's possible with 3D printers.
@petertownsend8276
@petertownsend8276 Год назад
Hi James. Another fascinating video. I like the suggestion of the Repair Shop, it would be very interesting to see. Pete.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Thank you Peter, following @dinmorejunctionmodelrailay 's suggestion I've checked out their website, and there is a contact form. There's nothing to lose by making a submission, so that's what I'll do. I enjoy the repair shop. It's one of the very few programmes I watch on TV. :)
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Год назад
Those bridge drawings emphasise just how elegant those structures are (or were). The modelling is meticulous as ever! What type of 3D printing method do you use - filament or resin?
@nicholashibbert-u5l
@nicholashibbert-u5l Год назад
The National Archives site is better for providing the info you require to preserve your document, especially the link to the British Library in 'Caring for archives'
@nicholashibbert-u5l
@nicholashibbert-u5l Год назад
My preservation suggestion would be to try The British Museum James
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't thought about them, but they must have a conservation department. Worth a try. All the best, James
@henrybest4057
@henrybest4057 Год назад
@@BexhillWest I'm sure that the National Railway Museum in York would be very interested in the drawings and have them restored, but would probably only do that if they could keep them in their collection. They would certainly know of a conservator who restores old railway drawings and who could restore them for you, but at what cost? Probably several thousands of pounds.
@chazzyb8660
@chazzyb8660 Год назад
I feel this is a bit grandmother and egg sucking tutorial, but… You could try talking to your local reference library, records office or what ever name they are currently going by. Or, if you have access to your local university libary they should be able to help. If they can't help personally they will certainly be able to point you in the right direction. Alternatively try the record office in the area of the railway concerned, who would probaly be even more interested. You might also try the Science Museum in London, or the Railway Museum in York? It's often a good idea to go straight to the top guys. A Gofundme in the area concerned might produce the cash?
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Some great ideas. I should have thought of the NRM. Now you mention it the Midland Railway study centre might be of help too. I shall check them out. Thanks very much, All the best, James
@timothyp8947
@timothyp8947 Год назад
Those drawings are something special. Given that I have absolutely no knowledge in that area, I can only imagine professional advice being the better answer - unless you have an interest in getting a book preservation apprenticeship under your belt along with all your other skills 😉 And to tackle a unique 100+ year old book as a first project 😉 Scanning - either with appropriate scanning equipment or photographic stitching will, of course, enable you to use and/or share the content on a more day to day basis, although it wouldn’t _feel_ the same. It would also distort the drawings, without some very clever software, which would lose some of the engineering value if they’re scale drawings - but then again, so would having them disintegrate. If I had documents of such an age I such deteriorating condition, I’d also be concerned that the deterioration is an ongoing process without something to arrest it… I’d worry about whether or not time was on my side. But I imagine you’ve already thought of all these things anyway 😊 Loving all I’ve seen in your videos - some great design skills demonstrated from a different perspective to many railway modelling material. Thank you!
@nick-c
@nick-c Год назад
I'm a bit late to the party, but have you tried contacting the Midland railway society? They ought to have an archive with proper controlled storage etc, or know where to go.
@paulsharpe3794
@paulsharpe3794 Год назад
Hi there what a fantastic document I'm just an electrician that plays with model trains. I think that before you start to preservation you photograph everything to the best of your abilities so that if you have any problems with the restoration you have a full record of the original status of the book. Which could be part of a digital archive. All the best
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Thanks Paul, I think I shall look into a professional photographer for that as some of the drawings unfold and are reall quite big. Fortunately, the really big drawings (which are the most impressive) have all been drawn on heavy card and have survived quite nicely. The 'Headfield Road' bridge drawing is so nice I might frame it. The original piers for it still stand in Dewsbury. Thanks for watching, James
@lassunsschaun6859
@lassunsschaun6859 Год назад
2:00-2:05 some (rather expensive) publishers still do those coloured thick papers in. Preserve the book *for use* by digital photography from stright above, as fare as I know Bibliothèque nationale de France did this with alot/all of their books as it´s milder then scanning. Better wear gloves, as sweat is corrosive. 7:35 that footbridge ironwork style look very british to me. 18:50 yep, some nice piping work to be done there. 19:10 that is, one of the reasons, why we (the viewers) warned you about OO. 20:30 (+25:00) cylinders (and valve gear) inside the frame, very british. Even if you get it printed well, may rethink of doing the frame and boiler out of brass -> better live span and you need some wights for good running characteristics anyway. Till next time
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
As ever some great observations. My plan it to etch the frames in Nickel Silver eventually, but I wanted to see what was possible once I'd got all the basic parts draw-up. It was a surprise that the prints have worked as well as they have. The next development task for this particular engine is to figure-out a painting strategy as there is some fine line work to do. One-piece parts will help me here as I expect I'll be painting several before I get the technique dialled-in. Thanks for watching, James
@vlt14
@vlt14 Год назад
Thank you for another informative video, would be great if you could produce a tutorial on the CAD side of things, 3d printing has so much potential
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
I will do. This project is going to be the basis for it. When all is complete, I will reverse engineer it and run through my process. I think most folks producing this type of drawing trace over the original. Being of the old-school, and having been trained to never scale from a drawing I prefer to go about it a little differently and start from scratch using known dimensions, drafting everything in 2D first. It takes longer, but enables things like the valve gear etc to be made to work exactly like the original. It's not necessarily a better way of producing a model, but developing things in this way can, I think, make for a more accurate drawing. I think that it could make for a nice series, so stay tuned, as they say. Thanks for watching, James
@eugeniomarins2936
@eugeniomarins2936 Год назад
Dear Sir, Are we seeing the demise of models manufacturers? Would they become providers of parts 3D printers can't produce? How long till a home metal depositing 3D printer? Interesting times. Cheers from Brazil! Painting would be the next step in this technology? P.S. I love old books, papers and drawings. A Gamma ray treatment would eliminate fungi and bacteria from the paper, preventing further damage from biological sources. This is done to surgical material, seeds and artworks. Once that done, restoration could begin.
@MossdaleNGaugeRailway
@MossdaleNGaugeRailway Год назад
I had to look at some drawings for some London Underground signalling equipment a few years. They dated from 1908 and were blueprints, a large linen page covered in blue wax with the wax removed when a line was drawn on the page.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
I really enjoy looking at and collecting old drawings. It's a great way to learn about how things work and were made in the past. I'd love to see the structural calculations relating to some of the iron bridges, they would be fascinating too, but are very hard to find. Thanks for watching, James
@MossdaleNGaugeRailway
@MossdaleNGaugeRailway Год назад
@@BexhillWest The calcs for old bridges would be fascinating to see how they determined their values, how over-engineered they were for the original train loads and speed, and how they are still safe for today's trains. I worked for the Underground's signalling for 40+ years, that gave me access to all the old maps and diagrams available on the company intranet. I liked seeing how little commuter stations with just two platforms had started off as country stations with crossovers, sidings, loops, semaphores and proper signal boxes. Your hand drawn bridge drawings must look wonderful up close with all the detailing added to them.
@MossdaleNGaugeRailway
@MossdaleNGaugeRailway Год назад
@@BexhillWest If you Google Westinghouse drum-type train description receiver, that is what I was working on and found the blueprints for. Two of them were in use for over 100 years, none of today's signalling will last a quarter of that.
@thomasm1964
@thomasm1964 Год назад
Wow! You have your own make-up artist now! All that's missing is your very publicly reported and outrageous demands for millions per episode! I love your book of drawings. Somewhat envious if I'm honest.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
I was hoping that at least one person might appreciate a little light-heartedness. :) One viewer commented by email that a paper bag would have avoided the need for make up. How rude!! :)
@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway
Hi James. How about contacting The Repair Shop a TV programme
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
That's an idea, although I think they prefer family heirlooms with a emotional back story. For the time being I'll keep them safe whilst I find a suitable means to share them. Currently they are too fragile to scan properly which is a shame.
@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway
@BexhillWest I think you're right, James, but they may be able to help in offering advice as where you could try for the restoration of this valued book.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Год назад
Good thinking, I'll investigate.
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