S2E33 Australia's Future with Tony Abbott - What Voice Defeat Means for Australia 

We were voting NO to Mayo, Langdon, and Pearson. As a person who voted NO, I was not voting against closing the gap, but I was voting against stupid handing control to a group of activists taking control.

Many have confused the acceptance of aboriginals as part of the Australian culture, with making them a special privileged class. They are already part of the Australian Constitution; they are Australian after all, are they not?

Tony, you are absolutely right about the recent migrants! After coming to Australia for a better life, sacrificing a lot in order to give our kids a better future, it was an absolute NO from me and my other migrant friends! There was no point to look at what were those benefits that Labor though voice would have. The idea of enshrining a race-based body into our main law did not pass the simple equality of citizenship test from day one.

I want an audit where the money went . Billions of it .

Thank you Tony. I’m so grateful you have the opportunity to speak about the situation that is in our Nation. 🇦🇺

Great man is Tony Abbott. He is levels above in practical application of intellectual response to the current malaise. Wish him well. But most of all I wish he was back at the centre of our governance.

Wonderful and through summary.

A new and better focus on the practical outcomes. Thank you Tony I agree with your thinking.

I’m astounded you left out a very important revelation from the referendum. The fact that the Yes vote electorates are almost exclusively in the centres of our cities, the most concerning of which was the national capital. This shone a very bright light on the fact that the bureaucrats that suggest policy and legislation to our politicians are totally disconnected from the reality of the views of the people they are meant to represent. We need to urgently decentralise decision making away from Canberra and hand it back to the communities most affected by decisions - a one size fits all approach - particularly one sympathetic to neo Marxism simply doesn’t and won’t work

I am still upset Abbott was pushed aside when he has the best thinking leader with Cremlin (Sky News) by his side.

‘Something for nothing’ Excellent, Tony. It’s important for a person, (man) to work and be paid for the work he does. It’s a good family principle. It helps his self worth and value as a person. Thank God. 🇦🇺

Tony talk was great and insightful

‘A new and better focus on the practical outcomes.’ Tony Abbott A new and better focus on the practical outcomes implies there is an existing attention on practical, pragmatic outcomes, when clearly there is not. We are currently ‘collectively’ pursuant of outcomes that have little if any practicality, sensibleness, levelheadedness, and in many cases even common sense. While for some time Australia has been driven, moved by it’s fringe components, it is becoming increasingly clear that even these elements are being dominated, and presided over by their own more fanatical, unbending, and irrational elements.

In one fell swoop, we have rejected the woke identity politics in government, corporates, universities, media, banks, and celebrities.

So so good

Well said Tony, you are Peta were an awesome team

I do hope that some in the present Liberal Party watch this.

I hope Tony has a chat with Dutton now and then .. he is stating some good strategic points that gives the Libs a look in on an increasing basis.

Thankyou both. An excellent unpacking of what the referendum result means for the political scene in Australia moving forward and what practical processes should be considered to help remote communities. I hope there is scope for Tony Abbott to return to Government because he has both the intellectual capacity to bring good governance and the understanding that the ultimate goal of government is to govern in a way that leads to all of us aspiring to, and being able to achieve those aspirational goals regardless of where we start. Believing that having a go and working hard will bring good rewards to anyone who dares has always been a part of the Australian psyche. It is no coincidence Australia is often regarded as the land of milk and honey.

How can we educate aboriginal kids when they are influenced and abused by their parents? How do we encourage their parents to behave decently with regard to their parental responsibilities? These are more important questions.

There’s non Aboriginal people who suffer similar problems. Don’t forget them, especially our children.🇦🇺

Two of our finest analysts and commentators in conversation. Please both continue to support and progress this path forward to the next election, such that a practical vision and policy platform can be presented to voters. A great opportunity exists to say No to more of Labor and its activists.

Tony Abbots point about how recent and other immigrants voted was a very valid answer. There has been too many assumptions made in analysis of issues.

The parliament rejected looking at auditing where the money on aboriginals is going.

The Chinese were more likely to vote Yes in the Referendum? Interesting.

Thank you for reassuring me I'm not racist, ignorant or stupid for voting no. I hope we find ways to close the gap with our first nation people that will benefit all of us. Long Live Australia

I’d be asking the question whether or not the decision is taken to act on it how can we get Green voters second preferences.

tony nails it

Some great aspects and comments made by Tony Abbott. I believe the Labor Party is in more trouble than stated. Rusted on Labor voters are now questioning their support and are looking for a more central right approach! Albanese has been an absolute failure as a leader of the majority of voters and appears transfixed on activists and activism! This is a result of his unionists past and views!

Idealism never gets you very far in politics. It has always seemed to me that it is incumbent on political representatives to create an environment where everybody can succeed. That's a fairly flat society. Howard went closest to creating this in practical outcomes, Abbott brings the same (remarkably) in intellectual terms. This is Tony at his best. The practicalities ought be taken up, but leadership has to work and in Tony Abbott's case, it does. Does he comprehend what it is for those who don't succeed? I don't think so, but the sympathy is there. It's more than a start. You can actually start talking from that position. And talk, we must - no shouting, no demanding, no self promotion, no impositions. Just very sensible talk. This is still a wide open space country. That needs to be reflected in the talk that happens and it must be enabled to occur. Here's to you Tony Abbott. More of this please.

the reason remote kids drop out of secondary school is because they enter secondary without the skill level to succeed.

If the next steps are to seek treaties with the States, then it is important to know that States cannot enter into treaties, because they do not have International Legal Personality. Only the federal government can enter into treaties with other nations because they do have International Legal Personality. Any State that attempts to enter into a treaty would be unconstitutional and therefore invalid. Look up a report tabled in the Senate Standing Committees on Legal and Constitutional Affairs titled "Trick or Treaty? Commonwealth Power to Make and Implement Treaties" Chapter 13.

Tony doesn't get it or pretends that he doesn't get it: many people don't see any real difference between the Libs and the Labor. There is a difference in rhetoric, but no real difference in policies. It is the same party, Big Australia party. So the primary vote is falling and I expect this trend to continue. Both support unlimited temporary visas, at ALP had the courage to state (rather quietly) that Australian immigration system is broken, but I doubt that they will do anything about it, most likely they will make it even worse.

Tony is a great leader for all Australians

In all honesty, i did not watch all of this video. I too did not vote against Aboriginals, per see. I did however vote for accountability; accountability for the billions already paid in reparation. I do agree with many of the comments of Tony Abbott but lost interest when it went back to talking about his achievements under the auspices of Howard, and what he did as Prime Minster in his own right. Tony we have heard it all before, and we have had to sit through it, what you did and thought but that was yesterday, what do we do going forward, obviously your and many others' good intentions have NOT solved it for some Austrians. I am over it; misspent billions by well-intentioned and basically incompetent politicians AT OUR expense. We are suffering medical education and old age care because we are MIS-spending so much on a failed and helpless fellow Australians. The toothpaste is out of the tube bd it cannot be put back now.

150 mosques around Australia were "encouraged " to Vote Yes" as well by Sydney's head Imam, and I heard a few anti Australia voices among the crowd call out.

Tony, why don't you go back to Blighty and take other Poms with you!

Abbott. Every critter has to come out from under a rock sometime. Now piss off back into the darkness.

"In the end it is about trying to help the battler do better", Well said, Tony. "Battlers: are too busy trying to pay for essentials which includes hugely increased mortgage payments under our current interest rate regime. Let's start with a re-jig of payroll tax so employers of low income workers are under less economic stress and the jobs of their employees are more secure.

Throughout human history, the face of the entire world has always been changing: its ethnic groups, countries, borders, etc. Many of these changes have been unjust as they resulted from conflicts, violence, local and world wars, and crimes against humanity. We need to constantly learn from our history that not to create new injustices. One of such lessons suggests that we must not attempt to heal committed injustices by new injustices. Our history shows that any attempt to reverse established historical reality turns into injustice. In case of our country Australia, it is not possible to heal historical wounds of Indigenous people by giving them a special constitutional status and rights, or even 'sovereignty'. More than 26 millions Australians should not be discriminated compared to less than a million Indigenous people. We need to find just and really democratic ways of efficiently addressing their issues. Injustice cannot be healed by injustice! With full respect to Indigenous people and regrets of what happened to them in the colonial past, we all still have to realize that the historical reality is that Australian nation consists now of people from many ethnic and cultural backgrounds. The Indigenous people group is not the biggest one and not the one, which made the biggest contribution into creating of modern Australia. Anyway, regardless of that, under no circumstances it is a good idea to try to reverse history, as it would mean racism and discrimination towards majority of people in Australia, which are not responsible at all for our colonial past. We need to strongly condemn colonial crimes and atrocities but accept historical reality and have really democratic society, where we all should be absolutely equal in our rights. No one, including Indigenous people, should have any special privileges regardless of their background and history. It is why I am against Voice and any specific ethnic and/or racial 'treaties' but strongly for really democratic Australian republic where every person would be absolutely equal in their constitutional rights.

Malcolm Turdbull was a disaster.

I sincerely believe voting against the voice was not a vote against the Anoriginal people!! It was however against the general dissatisfaction of our Govt, their handling of the yes referendum campaign but also Govt policies that have had a massive impact on Australians over the past 3 years. This is a far reaching NO.

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I don't understand why an Australian would have a high esteem for Churchill. He was the one who sent the ANZACs to their death in Gallipoli, against the advice of Lord Kitchener. He was the one who got them through the war, and set the UK up for whatever is wrong with it now. I have always voted Labor, but am now definitely "rethinking my commitment to Labor".

Would not it be a matter of decency and honour for Anthony Albanese to resign after such a convincing crash of his malignant referendum? I guess, if Anthony Albanese has no personal decency and honour, he would try to cling into prime ministerial position and go against the will of the majority of Australians for the sake of his personal perverted ambitions. I do not suggest that Anthony Albanese should have resigned as Prime Minister just because of the failure of this referendum. The outcome of referendum exposes this Albanese's project as malignantly divisive and politically illiterate and suggests that Anthony Albanese is unlikely having professional and moral qualities for leading our nation.

Us "Quiet Australians" voted No against Government Sanctioned Apartheid against White Australians & Immigrants; we have had enough. We also voted No against the half castes who have never been outside a major city, have no idea what is really going in remote & rural areas, and against Communists like Thomas Mayo (who's real name is Thomas Mayor, and is not Indigenous- he is Polynesian). We have all had enough

Obliged to send your kids to school by law. Home-schooling has to be acknowledged as a legitimate school, first and foremost without being subject to the public school system, as the public school system is off the rails with respect to promoted morals and the fact that ideologies are peddled within it, to the detriment of Reading, Writing, Math, History and Economics. I have held good employ through all my children’s home schooling, did not need and actively turned down social security on principle. But many others cannot do so, so easily. And all you can say is get a job.

Indigenous need definition of their status but that would never occur through offered referendum seem clearly by grassroots people .Their leaders failed them constantly yet have continued along same old well paid manner get kids into education by creating boarding hostels ensuring their presence at schools as some parents fail their kids or encourage them to ignore education in favour of old style culture Neutral audit of indigenous organisations essential as money extended not reaching needy ones

At 19:30 he makes reference to a 'problem of principle'. Australia it self has a problem of not having principles as a whole. Not knowing right or wrong. Everything is after the fact morally flexible and only spoken about after shoddy implementation is becoming dishonest or almost a public scandal. Look at the banks and its finance sector for credit. Connection to child labor, Telecommunications with Chinese technology providers. Ethical behaviour was promoted to be taught in schools a few years back. This is a place, not country. First home owner grants issued through the government and then gaining higher stamp duty fees and increasing building cost for families. By the time the cost shoot up the stamp duty is paid back first while the families signing for mortgage are strung along to pay way too much for this red tape government fee invention. Then they talk about social housing. It's almost like going to a dentist and asking what is best todo. This voice thing was a side topic which is only deterring from economic decline here in Australia. The Indigenous peoples today and 20 years ago look 100% identical with their problems. It's a chosen path to be different and maintain what they do. Progress is not what they them self's present. In 2043 it will be the same, simply because of how there are no principles, and if there would, it will be negotiated to suit at that point with known outcome to achieve nothing but media coverage,...again. Then it's all to hard and morally flexible with total loss of direction again. 20:10 'Getting sense of who you dealing with'. Clearly this statement shows not knowing who you dealing with because it's indirect and subject to interpretation which is a waste of time and words. We getting strung along and do get into racial division and even pay for it.

I could never vote for Abbot after his disgusting treatment of Julia Gillard.

Albanese should be made personally accountable for: -Running poorly prepared referendum in an attempt to constitutionally implement racial and ethnic inequality in Australia; -Artificially dividing Australian people along their "yes" and "no" preferences and provoking, at least, public tension; -Hurting our Aboriginal brothers and sisters; -Spending a substantial amount of public money for this cynical populistic stance.

If the situation is so dire, why ask Abbott for advice? His record of failures is hard to match by a politician - though Morrison might get close.

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Australia's future would be improved greatly should the failed priest and PM emigrate.

Future with Tony Abbot. You never even touched on this Tony, so who's side are you on? The following is an extract from an email I received from George Christensen from Nation First after the recent referendum: [Start] The Voice is undeniably a product of Globalist land acquisition by subterfuge. Albanese was correct when he stated that, “It’s not my product,” and it is certainly not the product of any genuine council amongst Indigenous people. It was always “a product” produced by a corporate boardroom, a hostile-takeover attempt, a product of the Transnational Corporatocracy. The UN Globalists are currently attempting to exploit the world’s Indigenous (in this instance, the “Australian Aborigine”) as “the heart of their Agenda 2030,” as “the fulcrum” for ushering in their new Technocratic New World Order - and they have just failed in Australia. The 2007 “United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP)” was weaponised for this very purpose. It was always fundamentally this - with all other concerns being but trivialities in contrast. They were coming for our farmlands, rural regions, forests, coastlines, river-ways, resources, livestock, harvests, precious minerals and metals - and then they would eventually abolish our private land rights by repatriating all our land to themselves via the decoy of the “Indigenous.” They were intending on “closing the gap” by systematically regressing Australia into a de-industrialised failed-nation. Rather than raising up the living standards of the underprivileged, these Globalists are striving to impose a pathological sense of “egalitarianism.” They envision a world in which all Global Citizens are rendered “equal” - that is, equally impoverished, and equally enslaved, as the First World is collapsed to replicate the abysmal conditions of the Third World: hence, equal. They are not done yet, but the Australian people are done with this latest attempt. The communistic Native Title Act 1992; the “Welcome to Country” fakery to inculcate a sense of “intruder, invader, visitor” on every Australian-born resident; the preemptive Treaty Assemblies; the now exposed Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Laws 2021, and the Juukan Gorge Hoax that precipitated it; the UNDRIP that brought forth the Voice, Treaty, Truth device of the sham “Uluru Statement from the Heart;” the 300,000+ fake Aboriginal claimers; the UN Agenda 21 that evolved into Agenda 2030 as informed by Schwab’s The Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution of Transhumanism (all depopulation templates) - are all but the scaffolding of a meticulously constructed tyranny; however, in there totality, and in their arrogance, they have now failed to install the crucial capstone to their overarching land-grab agenda: The Voice. Without The Voice, this gateway arch to their Australian Great Reset will topple sideways - and topple it has. [End] So there you have it folks, obviously Barack Obama has had a hand in this with his recent visit, so stop voting for these "Liberal, Green and Labor" puppets or loose our nation altogether. ....................................................................................................................................... Recommended party "One Nation" .............................................................................................................................