@@SomeMan001 > It was to steal the gold of Iraq as we all saw the photos of US soldiers with huge piles of Iraqi gold. Could you share a link? I've never seen such photos.
um you really don't know? The WMD plot was hoax to get Saddam out of power after he invaded Kuwait If you were right and it was about oil which is is not then that mean you consumed the oil and are the real perp lol
No it wasn’t. It was for Israel’s protection. Had it been about securing oil, it would’ve been perhaps worth it, even though most of our oil was already coming from a secure Saudi Arabia. Look up the Clean Break Memo for more info. Written by fierce Zionist Jewish think tank policy makers Richard Perle, David Wurmser, and Douglas Feith, the memo was composed for Netanyahu in 1996 and it outlines the top priorities for securing Israeli interests in the 21st century. The gist of the paper was that it suggested Iraq, Syria, and Iran be invaded and toppled IN THAT ORDER. The craziest part? All 3 authors of the Clean Break Memo ended up serving in the Bush admin and overseeing the invasion of Iraq. Then, of course, the civil war in Syria started with heavy US/Israeli involvement, and now they are trying to topple Iran. Don’t make it any more complicated than it needs to be. It’s not about oil. It’s not about democracy or human rights, especially because the US explicitly supported Saddam in the 80s. The US didn’t suddenly have a change of heart and become enlightened. It’s about protecting Israel. Simple as that.
He possessed the 3rd largest reserves of oil in the world That was the real reason. It's like the reason why someone moves a pro football team to another city.
@@ShootRapids China bought it from exxonmobil. Exxon was the one that profited from the contracts to drill the oil. China got the oil but they have to pay for it, in USD.
Should have been called “Operation Iraqi Liberation” (O.I.L) I recently watched the video of troops chaotically taking down his statue. It’s so embarrassing now. I cringed and face palmed. A bunch of cowboys making a huge mess of things.
@@ShootRapidsSo no oil from Iraq is coming to US?And no other country in the world is forced to buy Iraq oil and not to buy Russian oil?You should inform yourself what US ambassadors are doing around the world and how they are pushing sovereign leaders to do what they want and how US world dominance is functioning.But hey which American knows what each senator is doing inside US and what is each of 200 amabasors doing in each county.
US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. ... In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks. More than 60 US Defense Intelligence Agency officers provided combat planning assistance.... Saddam was a CIA and MI6 Project !
Nobody "saves" w3apons "for later". So it's clear what was going on, but I just don't understand why anyone cared. It seems like The Bad Kids got paranoid and incited the anger of foreigners and even Iranians. It's all a bunch of nonsense that stemmed from bad education. Naturally it led to war. Teachers define "neutrality". People listen to wives' tales too much (because their unmarried mom won't stop repeating them), and THAT'S why the war took so long: if it's hard to tell when you're being rebellious and when you're not, you better go off to war and never be seen again (just kidding, I'm a teacher after all, aren't I? I couldn't say such a thing.).
The blood of innocent civilians who perished during the US unjustified invasion of Iraq will always be on George Bush's hands and will haunt him until his final breath.😢😢😢
I doubt he even thinks about it but I remember when the US started that war and told myself "this is wrong there is no justification for this invasion."
This piece is 20 years to late unfortunately. I’ll never forgive our government and certain citizens for the way they treated anyone who was anti Iraq War at the time. I lost so many friends over there, all for a petulant child coming in and finishing what his father failed to do.
No actually the Democrat party railed against Bush Sr because they created a false story for political purposes that he should have gone into Iraq. They never stopped using it as a political tool. Then when Bush Jr was elected he did go into Iraq because of the Democrat BS about his father. I remember it like it was yesterday.
"I’ll never forgive our government and certain citizens for the way they treated anyone who was anti Iraq War" Recall the treatment Janeane Garofalo received at the hands of the war obsessed right wing? How she was mercilessly mocked and ridiculed for even suggesting that "hey, hold on a second, maybe dropping bombs on innocent people and invading the wrong country isn't such a great idea after all?" GWB admin was an unparalleled epic disaster. Imagine the pain, death, suffering that could have been averted were Al Gore pres. The Iraq war is what happens when your country is tricked into handing the reigns of power over to a developmentally disabled drunken frat-boy
Absolutely right that's what they did it was all about money and our guys died for them doing that it was wrong Annie wars wrong we have not learned our lesson yet we should never buy any circumstances listen to a idiot president like Donald Trump to go to war for that piece of s*** because that's what he wants to do when he gets in the office
Bush and Dick Chaney should be in prison for WAR crimes and all the money they made during the war should be given to the fallen and injured soldiers families
SOME WAR CRIMINALS LIVING THEIR LIVES LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED. But other with much less crimes are quickly sanctioned or ordered to be arrested for trial.
@@alejandronopasanada5302 Assange released intelligence which allowed for the "Assets" of the CIA to be identified and eliminated. Colin Powell was right...
did he just say that Israel conspired with Khomeini against sadam and that Khomeini is a US product . Am I the only one that finds this disturbingly shocking !!
I'm 64 yrs old. I remember one time on the news before Saddam invaded Kuwait, there was a news broadcast that showed a female member of bushes cabinet met with Saddam, and he asked point-blank if I invade Kuwait will the USA interfere, and he was told NO! It never aired again but was on one of the major news broadcast's at the time.
You don't understand since the 1960's the American CIA laid out a "white paper" who was long term threat in Middle East. It was non-secular "Ba'ath" because of their education system and ability to maintain large western armies.
So Nassar of Egypt is mysteriously assassinated. George W. Bush invades Iraq and take out Saddam Hussain why? It was believe even before the Iran/Iraq ended that he would invade the Southern Arab kingdoms. Then the west joins in the Syria Civil War to break apart al-Assad's Ba'ath party. If you look at what has happen the American CIA has gotten it's way and in removing the "Ba'ath party" in the Middle East.
amazing how you twist this story. But so have many people over the years to make Miss Glaspie a scapegoat. She may have given an opinion she should not have but she didnt say anything close to what you say. #1 she was not a cabinet member, she was the US Ambassador to Iraq speaking to the President of Iraq. A Cabinet member would know exactly what the President's opinion is, Miss Glaspie, an Ambassador in a country we had relations with for 5 entire years , would not. She reiterated a diplomatic opinion from the 1960s, that US diplomatic staff should express no opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts. Some people see this as her giving a green light but fail to read the next paragraph where she asks his intentions, which he doesnt give a straight answer to. He says Iraq has a right to prosper and lists some grievances, Arab bs. She then MAKES IT CLEAR the US will protect it's interests but doesnt spell out what that means because even Bush didnt know what that meant at that point, clearly she was told to go there and say that when Saddam summoned her. #2 Saddam never mentions he intends to invade Kuwait but by July 1990, a week before he invaded, it was pretty obvious in the same way in retrospect it was clear Russia was going to invade Ukraine, massive troop build ups on the border. Saddam painted Kuwait as the aggressor and says to her after she makes it clear the USA will protect it's interests. Saddam: "We do not ask people not to be concerned when peace is at issue. This is a noble human feeling which we all feel. It is natural for you as a superpower to be concerned. But what we ask is not to express your concern in a way that would make an aggressor believe that he is getting support for his aggression." #3 you can't go back and watch it because it never aired on television, not in Iraq, not here in the US. You never saw what you think you saw. There is no known tape of them talking, if someone taped it, it would of been Saddam himself for his own reasons which is possible I guess but it's never been released. You may have seen her testify to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee a year later after the war ended and repeat what she said but you didnt see footage of April Glaspie speaking to Saddam on on July 25 1990 on any news . The entire transcript is available to read online in many places, but there never was or never will be a tape to confirm what is said. You wont find many television crews in meetings between Ambassadors and Heads of States. Anywhere. Let alone the middle east. Thanks to wikileaks you can read the cable she sent back after the meeting, that we arent supposed to be able to see. It's clear she didnt believe invasion was coming a week later and Bush would need to create a coalition with Arabs in it to expel Iraq from Kuwait. Let's also remember the US won this war handily. Arguably the most successful large-scale military operation the US has ever executed, the only reason people remember her is because what happened later.
I too saw that broadcast, and it was referred to in the newspapers the next day. I still keep those articles. [Edit] I could have seen it on CNN but I believe it was on BBC World that I saw it. Those two channels were the only international news TV options I had at that time.
Saddam had WMD's left over from using them on the Iranians & certain ethic groups in Iraq: The VA Hospital is treating US personnel who had the task of destroying the Iraqi weapon dumps. And yes, they have exposure to the Chemical Agents of Saddam's Chemical Weapons left over from the Iran Iraq war. Unfortunately they were labeled as conventional artillery shells & rockets. American Veterans of the Iraq war wouldn't be dying from exposure to said Chemical Agents if there were only Conventional Munitions in these dumps. Of course if said Chemical Weapons had been deployed as designed and properly maintained these Veterans would have died in Iraq as well as many Iraqi Civilians. The only question is how many of these Chemical Weapons were transferred to Assad in Syria and if any are still buried in the Iraqi desert...
It's fascinating the utter disconnect Americans on average seem to have. They can readily admit the IRAQ INVASION WAS/IS a CRIME, yet they'll close their eyes, ears, and hearts when it comes to America aiding and abetting a genocide in Occupied Palestine.
And my proudest moment as a Canadian came when our Prime Minister at the time, the venerable Jean Chrétien, whom I never actually voted for, stood up to Tony Blair and George Bush and said ‘no’. That took a LOT of guts, for a small country like Canada, whose leaders generally bend over to the US and the UKs every whim and and only ask ‘is this is far enough’? We were not part of this, Chrétien made sure of it, and he was the only one of the three that was right. A great moment in Canadian history.
I remember that in Germany it was official common knowledge at the time that Iraq does NOT possess the weapons of mass destruction that the CIA claimed they had and that the intel provided by the CIA was fake. Sadly nobody cared about what Germany said.
@@cazza6944 and yet we are rally behind Israel Netanyahu today. How can we instate Netanyahu as a lead after such lies? Just imagine if we still had T.Blair and G.Bush still running office.
You were dragged into this war. One of the main sources of information for CIA on that time was MOSAD. Look at the video when Netanyahu in his speech, on the US congress , advocated for the necessity of destroying Iraq. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, backed up by the military industry lobby and AIPAC, were the most fervent outspoken persons over the 'wright doing ' of attacking Iraq. They even mislead J.W Bush in his decision making process over this very sensitive subject.
everyone knows the WMD plot was just a hoax to get Saddam out of power after he invaded Kuwait Kuwait also kicked out their Palestinians because they helped Saddam
Saddam had WMD's: The VA Hospital is treating US personnel who had the task of destroying the Iraqi weapon dumps. And yes, they have exposure to the Chemical Agents of Saddam's Chemical Weapons left over from the Iran Iraq war. Unfortunately they were labeled as conventional artillery shells & rockets. American Veterans of the Iraq war wouldn't be dying from exposure to said Chemical Agents if there were only Conventional Munitions in these dumps. Of course if said Chemical Weapons had been deployed as designed and properly maintained these Veterans would have died in Iraq as well as many Iraqi Civilians. The only question is how many of these Chemical Weapons were transferred to Assad in Syria and if any are still buried in the Iraqi desert...
As an iraqi who was born in iraq in 93's raised and witnessed and experienced the war of 2003! I must say it's the worst as we fall a victim instead we had to pay the price unfortunately. " Iraqi war will scar me for life ".
I wish that your region had never been under the British & French plan for the former Ottoman Empire. That's when the European Colonialism games started... A few years before you were born, I knew an Iraqi who would buy pharmaceuticals in the US just before or after they expired for cheap. As the Hospitals in Iraqi had nothing on their shelves so these western pharmaceuticals would be used before they actually spoiled... He told me about the children's hospital Saddam named after himself, but that had an empty pharmacy, dirty sheets, etc. He also told me about the people who disappeared thanks to Saddam the Goat Farmer...
Steve Coll is a revisionist manipulator. Because there was no MISCOMMUNICATION between Nations. Hussein's private diaries are Irrelevant. At the Time Iraq did Gas the Kurds, and Saddam did Float Balloons, and say publicly, to deter U.S.A. that he indeed have WMD's. Today, we see this with Iran announcing they have Houthis, Islamic Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. In Iran's misdirection. Russia reports their Economy & War products under sanctions are at their best! It is propaganda. This Author falsly reports that Saddam could not call White House & it was all "Miscommunication." Kuwait attack, nor Ukraine attack are matters of Miscommunication! In years, we'll have another Steve Coll, citing tapes of what? Putin lamenting having to invade Georgia, Crimea? What a poor twist from a sham author. A revisionist whou ought never teach History. This is B.S. !
This Bullshit. The CIA released a "white paper" in 1960's that the threat in the Middle East was the "Ba'ath's party" because their non-secular and engineering educational system. This allowed manufacturing within Middle East and poised a threat to the West.
If you look what has happen since "Nassar" of Egypt was assassinated. Syria Civil War was backed west and destroyed. President George W. Bush went and destroyed Saddam Hussain and made sure the "Ba'ath Party" was destroyed in Iraq. Now Middle East is hopelessly dependent on West for technology even Iran.
International Commission of Jurists in Geneva. “The invasion of Iraq was neither in self defense against armed attack, nor sanctioned by the UN Security Council authorizing the use of force by member states and thus constituted the Crime of War of Aggression”
@@MrBrock31499% of it is just conspiracy theories/Zionists, talking about his people/country like he is in an alternative reality, talking about how they should support Palestine + his henchmen sucking up to him etc. it get really cringe. I will give you an example, during the 1991 war (when everybody begged him don't Effing do it and retreat but he refused), they are talking about how nobody is helping them (after being hostile to almost all of his neighbors), then they discuss stupid ideas like "we should embarrass Soviets and Algerian so that they would be forced to send some weapons" hahaha If you can stand having grown ass men sucking up to a delusional man living in an alternative reality, it is not that bad :)
Nobody "saves" w3apons "for later". So it's clear what was going on, but I just don't understand why anyone cared. It seems like The Bad Kids got paranoid and incited the anger of foreigners and even Iranians. It's all a bunch of nonsense that stemmed from bad education. Naturally it led to war. Teachers define "neutrality [itself]". People listen to wives' tales too much (because their unmarried mom won't stop repeating them), and THAT'S why the war took so long: if it's hard to tell when you're being rebellious and when you're not, you better go off to war and never be seen again (just kidding, I'm a teacher after all, aren't I? I couldn't say such a thing.). Anyone who willfully decides to use any w3apon IS IN A SORT OF CONTRACT WITH HIMSELF in which it is implied that HE HIMSELF MAY "UN-DECIDE" to use a w3apon... That's the "definition" of a "w3apon". I think there's another word for what dictators force everyone to use (without free will). So weapons don't really GET "saved for later" because "free will" exists, but not everyone understands it because they are uneducated.
Either it was Newsweek or Time, but when the U.S. moved on Irag, they had a two page spread showing above and below ground in Baghdad by use of an illustration showing what the nuclear weapons storage looked like. (According to someones imagination) If that wasn't advertising, I don't know what is.
I think it was the Afghanistan war when they showed an al-Qaeda multilevel bunker complex in the Tora Bora mountains, and it looked like a James Bond villain lair. It was all fake, but I think it reflects the time when people couldn't really fathom that a non-state entity like Al-Qaeda could attack the US. It just to be some well-organised advanced army.
I remember that. I saw it as an idiot and kept going. Then years later I saw it again in a documentary and just couldn’t believe that a serious news outlet was publishing imaginary pictures.
i don't think they knew what they were doing. you can see that they were stumbling around and fumbling and desperately groping for a light switch. if they had actually got their act together they would have secured what they were looking for and we would all be up to date with the latest developments on everything we need to know. as it is we have too many unanswered questions and they keep trying to evade the level of proportionate scrutiny that their adventurism has promoted.
@@Dan-nx9znwell if you know about aipac the more you will know us policies. Saddam Gaddafi and king Faisal they all had one thing in common. All of them were nightmare of Israel
@asharahmad1068 israel has always been a close ally of the US they are our one ally in a region that hates us. It makes sense strategically to keep at least one ally in region
@@Lmeza-2121 idiot! Hating on Liz doesn’t mean I support Trump 🤦♂️ Liz will start a war with Iran or Venezuela wherever the oil is-as long as shes in power
@@iainwade Well, one can only presume that if Saddam was meticulous in keeping such recordings and records then there would be some information relevant to his trial? I agree with another poster. They simply wanted him dead and gone and that was going to happen no matter what.
are you riturded😂😂 u just call anybody a dictator while she just said the war was american blunder and he ddnt have weapons! technically usa the world terrorist invading a country
It’s truly frightening to know how a combination of appalling assertions/ judgments from political leaders/ governments can fragment the direction of the world’s landscape and its people. So many lives lost from all sides..it’s just tragic…..
No, the US didn't know. It fooled itself, much like Russia has e.g. fooled itself Ukraine consists of nazis. The top kindof orders its apparatus to find more evidence of a loose idea, and the apparatus proceeds to filter info in such a way that it looks like evidence, and then the top believes it.
@@rogerthat4545 You mean the gas given to him by the US and the UK to use on Iran? Yes, he used it on the Kurds instead. But let's not pretend he had that gas for good reason and that the UK and US weren't backing war crimes. As specified in this interview, he destroyed all of it in 1991.
He might still has the MDW samples! Could ran another forensic test perhaps might work this time considering using an AI. pfffft USA is just full of shit
Yes, really bizarre how he followed US's own intelligence reports 🤔 Biden's little talking finger should obviously have told him the reports where fabricated, just like Trump's little talking pimple said to him, but only after the invasion
The topic is the 2 george's and sadam U: need to coment on trump Me: dude, usa has nasa cause hitler had a science program which developed the basis for the invention of rockets. Yup, the same crazy ass racist scum. Same with stalin and it's space program, it gave knowlege of space to the world meanwhile causing the havok we know still persists in central asia and east europe. Conclusion: even the worst dictators can achieve 1 good thing and 1000 bad stuff.
” Former White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, said, "President Trump is the most flawed person I've ever known. The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," Gary Cohn, Trump's chief economic advisor, said, "It's worse than you can imagine. An idiot surrounded by clowns. Trump won't read anything--not one-page memos, not the brief policy papers; nothing. He gets up halfway through meetings with world leaders because he is bored. And his staff is no better. Kushner is an entitled baby who knows nothing. Bannon is an arrogant prick who thinks he's smarter than he is. Trump is less a person than a collection of terrible traits. No one will survive the first year but his family. I hate the work, but feel I need to stay because I'm the only person there with a clue what he's doing. The reason so few jobs have been filled is that they only accept people who pass ridiculous purity tests, even for midlevel policy-making jobs where the people will never see the light of day. I am in a constant state of shock and horror."
In a decade or so, the truth behind the war in Ukraine may be uncovered, but no politician will accept responsibility for their mistakes. Many people will pay the ultimate price, including their own lives, while politicians remain unaccountable.
@@BillyColeII-dr6dk That's true, but the West gave the Saddam Regime those weapons to use against the Iranians during the Iran-Iraq war. **en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_attacks_against_Iran
@@Dan-nx9zn Boy, do you misunderstand what oil is in that case. Oil = money - which the US took lots of in corporate terms. It cost the US government money and it made massive amounts of money for the arms manufacturers and the companies that exploited Iraqi oil and the war like Haliburton. There was no shortage of money made in the war, it just went to US private corporations, as intended.
Biggest myth. Usa has partial control over oil market thru pricing, it doesn't need to be fiscally be present in an oil drill site. The part where usa has less control over is in the refined oil marker, that's opec who has partial control. If tomorrow oil stoped being used, usa would be just fine, other parts of the world not so much.
For Bush it wasn't about oil. It was about beating up on America's enemies post 9/11, disarming a terrorist sympathizer / financier, and bringing democracy to the ME. But believing it was just about oil, is simpler, of course.
George H W Bush was more international. He built a pretty large coalition to repel Iraq from Kuwait. That was was far more internationally accepted than the 2nd Iraq war for that exact reason (also, it was to save Kuwaitis which it did mostly).
@@MrBrock314 you forget that Iraq asked the NSA months before what is the US policy on Kuwait and GWB NSA replied we have no policy. So either short term international thinking or a bate box. But either way GWB put way to much stock in Rumsfeld and Halliburton/Cheney options
But Steve Coll is a revisionist manipulator. Because there was no MISCOMMUNICATION between Nations. Hussein's private diaries are Irrelevant. At the Time Iraq did Gas the Kurds, and Saddam did Float Balloons, and say publicly, to deter U.S.A. that he indeed have WMD's. Today, we see this with Iran announcing they have Houthis, Islamic Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. In Iran's misdirection. Russia reports their Economy & War products under sanctions are at their best! It is propaganda. This Author falsly reports that Saddam could not call White House & it was all "Miscommunication." Kuwait attack, nor Ukraine attack are matters of Miscommunication! In years, we'll have another Steve Coll, citing tapes of what? Putin lamenting having to invade Georgia, Crimea? What a poor twist from a sham author. A revisionist whou ought never teach History. This is B.S. !
B.S.! Steve Coll is a revisionist manipulator. Because there was no MISCOMMUNICATION between Nations. Hussein's private diaries are Irrelevant. At the Time Iraq did Gas the Kurds, and Saddam did Float Balloons, and say publicly, to deter U.S.A. that he indeed have WMD's. Today, we see this with Iran announcing they have Houthis, Islamic Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. In Iran's misdirection. Russia reports their Economy & War products under sanctions are at their best! It is propaganda. This Author falsly reports that Saddam could not call White House & it was all "Miscommunication." Kuwait attack, nor Ukraine attack are matters of Miscommunication! In years, we'll have another Steve Coll, citing tapes of what? Putin lamenting having to invade Georgia, Crimea? What a poor twist from a sham author. A revisionist whou ought never teach History. This is B.S. !
In addition to the vial of powder detergent shown at UNSC by Colin Powell, an cartoon drawing of Iraqi mobile chemical weapon factory on wheel also convinced everybody. We didin't get smarter since then.
It's pretty obvious that the US started the war with Iraq and Afghanistan. Ukraine & Georgia wanted to join NATO, so Russia invaded them--with an active border dispute they can't join. Armenia joined the CSTO instead, but no one seems to be helping them fight Azerbaijan, so it's understandable that Georgia & Ukraine (& Finland, Estonia, etc) would prefer NATO.
This was a really interesting interview. It looks like communication was a big reason why the war was such a blunder and it could’ve been avoided entirely.
@@kgosisimanyana Its not America, its USA, America has been colonized by Europe by the establishment of USA. There are very few American left in America, majority of them were killed by the European illegals.
I asked a friend who had been working as a teacher in the middle East why he thought Saddam refused the weapon inspectors access to search his palace when that might have avoided war. His answer was 'Stupid Arab pride'. Interesting that part of Saddam's reason for not admitting to destroying weapons was partly stupid pride.
Biden: Hey just make sure our adversaries know what we're doing in advance! We simply CANNOT have ANY terrorists or nefarious actors who might get caught in the crossfire eh? Friggin mouth-breathers running this country FFS
Nowdays they feel the shame of calling it weapons of mass destruction instead they call it WMD to sound abit soft . While the life of Sadam was taken mercilessly.
She has been reporting on the Middle East for years. No, NOT American, she is Iranian -British. She was born in London, her mother British, her father Iranian and she lived in Tehran until she was 11.
@@MrBrock314 First of all she lives in London, CNN is world wide media outlet. She travels extensively and WTF is the difference? She also works with PBS and other outlets. Are you real?
