There is nothing sad about Progressive Field. The field is an absolute Gem and I hope it stays around forever. Its right in downtown. Looks Beautiful. Big, yet intimate. Not a bad seat in the house. The shipping container experiment is going to be rectified.
I been there it is nice and should be around at least another 70 years. I thought the Texas Rangers had a stadium just as nice don’t know why they had to get a new one so soon.
You are wrong. Upper deck outfield seats were like sitting on the moon, too many good seats where large portions of fair territory down the lines were unviewable
I am from the Dominican Republic, a a truly baseball fan. Never have been at this stadium, but always have considered the most beautiful stadium and field since the opening in 1994
Even if the Indians had won 144 games Pittsburgh still would've won the series. It doesn't matter what the sport is, Pittsburgh always beats Cleveland.
Thus video spent a lot of time/energy talking about the upper deck, but somehow failed to show the outstanding repurposing of the RF and LF lower corners, where they’ve carved out massive social sections where people can watch the game while mingling and moving around the high-top ledges. I’m not a younster, but when I go to games with friends, etc. We’re always drawn to these type of areas. In the 90s, you were often limited to sitting down side-by-side for 3+ hours, Progressive Field is a wonderful place to watch a game while still being social.
Even if they had dropped the "Indians" name, this Cleveland franchise from what I read was also known as the Spiders in the early 20th Century as well. Spiders was a much better nickname if a change was going to be made at all. Could have linked it to say "Peter Parker" and Company from the Marvel Comics series.
Why would Cle need a new baseball stadium? It is a pretty good stadium and they are updating it. However the Browns stadium is in a stupid place. They just built it there because that was where the old stadium was. Lack of foresight.
I was an elementary school student in nearby Erie, PA when I heard about this. I wonder how everyone got home. Did anyone sleep overnight in the stadium?
Like other football teams around the 🇺🇸, they make their games at a few MLB stadiums, that’s why the Cleveland Guardians deserve Brooks Park and the Cleveland Browns make their games at Progressive Field like Choctaw Stadium in Arlington City, Texas
In1999, during those ballpark construction projects a new Fenway Park was proposed in Boston. The new Boston Red Sox owners with John Henry used previous Jacobs Field as a model. Fenway would keep its monster but moving the big projection screen over it. Massive expansion of the Right Field Bleachers. For right and left field sides added concessions stand and more seating options to the upper box seats. The failed and Dan Duquette was fired as GM. New Red Sox owners renovated Fenway Park. Team got a new manager Terry Francona and they received Manny Ramirez. Both are Cleveland alumni. Theo Epstein used same strategy for Chicago Cubs. Renovated Wrigley and won a world series.
I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but I think progressive is actually very similar to Camden Yards, in terms of general feel of the stadium. Obviously, progressive doesn't have the warehouse, or that trademark modern-retro feel. But in terms of atmosphere and outfield bleachers, they are very similar IMO.
Most of the stadiums are still amazing and I believe you despite not ever being to Oriole Park at Camden Yards. But I actually liked Great American Ballpark better than Progressive Field.
I disagree. The shipping containers are fun. Its a perfect place to get a group of fans together and bang on them and live on the beat of the drum like Cleveland legend John Adams!
I'm a Cards fan that was in Cleveland on business earlier this year. Caught a Guardians game in April and yeah....for a stadium just under 30 years old this stadium is definitely starting to show its age. I guess I'm just spoiled by Busch Stadium, which truthfully did take some 15+ years to finally have the entirety of their "Ballpark Village" idea come to fruition.
As a Ravens Fan , I’m grateful for progressive field more than you know … Baltimore WOULDVE still not had a team if this ballpark wasn’t build .. Art MODELL ( R.I.P.) and “fuck y’all browns fans for still being bitter lol”was looking to move after this and the rock and roll hall of fame was build
Supposedly, Modell moved the original Browns because he was jealous of the (at-that-time) Indians and Cavaliers for being granted new homes. And this was before the Cavs signed LeBron.
The reason I'm bitter about the Browns moving to Baltimore is because of when the Colts moved to Indianapolis. People of Baltimore more were mad and were saying the would hate to see another team move to any other city including there own and when Modell said he was moving our team to Baltimore and seeing how the people of Baltimore was acting . It pissed me off.
@benjaminmeyers9454 : Exactly. When the Colts moved out of Baltimore, the "fans" moaned and complained about how unfair it was. Then, it was okay for the Browns to move to Baltimore! They just never saw how hypocritical this was.
Great American Ballpark is a straight up dump. Comerica Park is only slightly better but has been botched in renovations as well. It feels weird. Progressive Field is just clunky now. It has no feel and atmosphere. I was never as high on it as others were during it’s heyday. PNC Park is still a beautiful facility and the only park I truly enjoy visiting as a Guardians fan living in Ohio. The Reds deserve so much better after playing in that sewer known as Riverfront Stadium for so many years. The Reds are too great of a historical franchise to play in that joint.
I actually liked Great American Ballpark better than Progressive Field but your right PNC is beautiful only Sand Diego has a better stadium. San Francisco, Seattle, Minnesota, Colorado, Baltimore and St. Louis are also some of the nicest stadiums.
Where do you get this "people were leaving the area" stuff? The population of the Cleveland Metro area remained almost entirely flat from 2000-2022 (1, 786, 000 in 2000, and was 1,764,000 in 2020 ,with projected INCREASES for last year and this). I guess it didn't fit your narrative of it being the Vegas Strip in the 1990s and Hiroshima circa 1946 in the 2000s. Reporting on the failed renovations is one thing but this was piece was done with hatchet in hand.
It had over 2 million people less than ten years ago. Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco are "dying" regions. Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, Austin, Charlotte, Nashville, Raleigh, Orlando are growing tremendously.
NO. IT DIDN'T. I gave you the figures. The population of the Cleveland Metro area has been almost exactly the same in 2000, 2013 (ten years ago) and in 2020, with expected upticks for the last 2 years. Don't throw out crap without knowledge. @@willp.8120
@@willp.8120 The Greater Cleveland area has lost over 200,000 in population since 1970, while over that same period the USA population has increased by over 100 million. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Cleveland Perhaps the Indians should consider moving to Columbus, since that is now Ohio's largest city. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_metropolitan_area,_Ohio
@@willp.8120 No, it didn't have over 2 million people less than 10 years ago. Look at the STATISTICS. The population has remained entirely stable over the last 20 years.
It actually looks much better now than it did. I was there in the 90s and this year. The refurb will make it much nicer. The shipping containers are definitely bad but the areas with food from specific neighborhoods in the city is quite nice.
@@MrMac1138 Once they get rid of the containers, if they do a proper Reno this time and indeed make it at least similar to what the Rockies did, then it could look pretty good? And I’m not saying I hate the place now but to me it will probably never look as good as it did when it first opened ! 🤷🏻♂️
Go back to the Cleveland Indians you jinxed the team by changing its name it’s time they realize this,people need to stop supporting them until they change the name back!!!
Screw the Cleveland Indians baseball team! May they never make the playoffs again! I call on the Curse of Chief Wahoo!! Deny them victory until they put you back on the uniform. Hail, Chief Wahoo!!!
As a Clevelander who goes to a shit ton of games per season, I can say the stadium is the king of Mid. There's some GREAT food selections but other than that, mid. I used to live right in between Comerica and Progressive, and I would much rather prefer to go to Comerica instead. Staff is great, venue is wide open and not congested, good deals and prices, and downtown Detroit is actually rather nice. Great sleeper-stadium, highly recommend.
Back in 1993 I was attending a bachelor party at a bar on Huron Rd. I and a few other drunk partiers walked thru a hole in the construction fence and into the under construction Jacob's Field. We stopped where the current last row in left field is and looked down at the all dirt playing field. Many seats were not yet installed. Being a greater Clevelander all my life I followed the INDIANS for almost 50 years but paid no attention to them the day after they became politically correct and changed the team name. Sure, I check the standings now and then but would never watch a game. (This is very easy to do while living in Asia). One last thing. How 'bout those REDSKINS!
Progressive Field is a nice place to watch a game....used to make the trip up from Pittsburgh 3 or 4 times a year. The only disgusting thing is the team's nickname, and the way team ownership and MLB genuflected before the Woke Mafia. Haven't been to a game in Cleveland since the name change, and I really wish them no success so long as they are the "Guardians."
Everybody see Houston on the bottom of that attendance list? Remember that next time you see an Astros fan talking trash to some other team's fans about not going to games. Houston is a top 5 metro in the US and has the worst fans in baseball.
And who is going home for the playoffs? The team up north. 2022 MLB attendance via ESPN; Houston #7 with avg of 33,197 per game. Clevland #25 with 17,050 avg.
The team had all the sellouts when the team was an actual contender… right now, they may be on top of their division.. but lets be real… last place in teh AL East would be second in the division and close to first in the Central. Sadly, shrinking the seating capacity is just a way to make seats more scarce to have an excuse to raise the prices…
Be "real". I couldn't care less if their record was mediocre but won the division. In baseball, anything can happen in a short series. They're NEVER going to have the financial resources of NY or Bos. They have to try to go in the side door and anyway they get there is fine with me. The '97 team that came close to winning it all was probably the worst of that sellout period but they won when it counted in the playoffs. Nobody was going to apologize if they did win it all that year.
@@carseye1219 The Indians (they will always be the Indians..they were that for over 100 years… ) have done OK.. but stadium upgrades won’t bring the masses. They proved that with their last changes. One of the complaints with MLB is that certain teams seem out before April… though right now.. the big money Yanks and Sox are out already.. still, across all pro-sports.. attendance is down. TV ratings are down.. they were dropping before.. but post-pandemic.. really bad. the Economy is really bad right now… People are spending their hard earned $$$$ elsewhere. Smaller markets have less wiggle room.. Yes, the snuck their way into the WS a few years ago and the fans came.. but that was an outlier.. the AL central is not a deep division.. pro-sports are in for a reckoning here soon.. MLB’s the only one without a hard cap… and I think will see the first contractions of teams.. simply because you do have the haves and have nots…
@ronpeacock9939 But I also think Browns fans have been incredibly stupid. Almost 20 years of a sh*t product, yet they kept emptying their wallets. When they were 0-16, that stadium should've been EMPTY. I want them to win, but you've got to use your only leverage. To each his own, but I never thought Indians was a name worth fighting for. I'm okay with Guardians
The economic #'s are extremely close to pre-pandemic levels. The unemployment rate in April 2020 was 14.7 %. It is currently 3,8. The Indians/Guardians have participated in 9 post-season competitions since 2000. They have had 13 winning seasons since then. Calling 2016 an "outlier" is a bit of a reach and ignores much success with limited payrolls. I agree that a cap + more revenue sharing would more level the playing field but, as a small market team, the Guardians have done extremely well. They have small margins so, when their starting pitching gets decimated like this year, they have no chance. Considering the results, the attendance this year is decent, about the same as Baltimore, which has had a great year. @@ronpeacock9939
Rays should have moved to Orlando to take advantage of tourism money. I don’t doubt many families would go to a game if it was right near Disney and Universal
@@noelramirez1551 I checked Wikipedia and learned this: "The (Disney) stadium hosted its first regular season MLB games from May 15 through 17, 2007 season when the Texas Rangers played the Tampa Bay Devil Rays in a three-game series. The three games drew a total of 26,917 fans, and attendance went up each game. In April 2008, the Rays moved another series, this time against the Toronto Blue Jays, to Orlando." The Orlando metroplex, which includes Kissimmee (where the Disney stadium sits), has grown since then. Also, the Orlando Rays (who served as Tampa Bay's "Double-A" team) played there 1999-2003. This team was featured in the 2002 film "The Rookie" in which Dennis Quaid portrayed the protagonist "Jimmy Morris."
What would y'all think about merging the Cleveland franchise with either the Tigers, Reds or Pirates, and splitting the home games between both places? Consent of MLBPA would be obtained by expanding to replace the lost team and by agreeing to a payroll floor of $150 for the merged franchise.
@@adanalyst6925 They tried it with Montreal, that didn't make a lick of sense. The obvious solution for the Rays was to merge with the Marlins. It still may happen in another ten, when Sternberg is finally forced to concede that baseball in St. Petersburg will never succeed even with a brand new state of the art stadium.
@@GeraldM_inNC I do still think that the Rays should split time between the Marlins stadium and Tampa bay. That would be a good option for Florida baseball.
@@stevep8445 I never said they merged with the Expos. Where on earth did you get the idea that I said that? Someone else's post used the collapse of the proposal to play half the Rays' games in Montreal to refute the practicality of my proposal to merge teams and split their home schedules. I replied that splitting the home games of a merged Rays-Marlins franchise is a totally different thing from the Rays playing half their games in Montreal. You need to read posts more carefully before you comment on them.
I disagree man, I think the newer renovation idea doesn’t look bad at all. What do you expect them to do? People don’t go to baseball games especially in Cleveland the way they used to.
With everything going woke and the commissioner putting all these asinine rules in the game who has time to enjoy the deck or even Finnish a beer! By the time you Finnish you snacks and one beer the game is over! CLEVELAND CHANGE THE NAME BACK TO THE INDIANS!
Perfectly said. A lot of people say these new rules are great, but you aren't getting bang for your buck anymore. And the one field game (and product, depending on the team) keep getting worse.
