What do you guys think about this Barista Pro? I think it's one of the best deals in the lineup. Check prices here: geni.us/BrevilleEspressoMach (Breville/Sage affiliate link)
This model is very well engineered. I’ve repaired this model multiple times and I found it to be one of the most reliable across the Breville range because of the heating system not putting a lot of stresses on the internals because it doesn’t always stay hot, but also clever engineering things like nine bar OPV for the water pump, but also an OPV for the steam line which I’ve never seen on other models apart from the more expensive levels. This will mean that if you wand is blocked, you will not burst a pipe or a connector When you turn on the steam and the pressure is built up. This has been an issue on the barista express because a lot of the time the connector on the solenoid valve would give you a lot of leaks if the wand is blocked this happens a lot on the older models like three years, plus. Expensive repair once that solenoid is rusted
@@DianHrozek re: "It already exists....Bambino" I prefer a separate grinder too, largely because I drink only decaf and my Wife and Daughter often do not. The Bambino does not allow temperature adjustment and its steaming is less impressive. It would be nice if those features were added versus the auto-froth in a Bambino Plus.
Tom, do you know if the newer ESP burrs can retro fit into the older model of the Pro? I LOVE my Pro so far, but I've got the older version before the grinder was upgraded. Cheers!!
Hey Tom, about the disadvantage of the manoneter, I'm not expiericing that. Because wenn I'm pulling a 1:2 shot on the Express, the manometer always shows too high (around 2 o Clock). I'm more likely to buy this pro in the near future. Or can you tell me a solution for this high pressure?
It's a 5 blade vs 6 blade burr. I don't know if my palate would be sensitive enough to really notice a difference, if I'm being honest. But since Baratza updated to 6 blade, it's nice that they included the updated design in this machine.
@00:29 What exactly is the difference between the older and newer burr set? Can you identify them by 6 points on the lower burr for the baratza, and 5 for the older?👴🤔 @03:30 Yes, it's a nice water spout. It would be nicer if the grouphead was not blocking the view, which happens immediately, 10 sec. too late...👴😂
The Barista series are all great models. We recently acquired the Barista Touch Impress, which uses the same ThermoJet system as the Pro, and it satisfies the needs of the entire household. For those that don't mind being more involved in the prep, the Barista Pro is the model to get. With the upgraded burrs, it's a no-brainer.
love my touch imprees. had it 2 months and still playing with it. full auto. full manual mode. and half and half it is great. the grinder is really good for an all in one home machine.
I’m scared to buy this machine. A lot of reviews on amazon saying the shots are very different from one to another. I get that there is a bit of tolerance but if people are complaining so much is probably because there is too much tolerance. I really don’t know what to do
I'm a fan of Lavazza SuperCrema but the last bag I bought was also three months old and the taste was noticeably worse than what was in the freezer from the previous bag.
I came across your channel after buying my Barista Pro this week. I have learned so much from your videos and prevented a few rookie mistakes. Your knowledge, passion, and content is just incredible. Thanks Tom, keep up the great work!
Thank Tom for all the in-depth reviews, I ended picking up the Barista Pro as my first machine based on this video. Getting to grips with the whole process but your videos shaved a long time off my learning process. Thanks
Thank you for a very educational video for all of us that just bought the Barista Espresso. You recommended to remove the plastic insert from the portafilter which makes a lot of sense, however I can't find a way to remove it without braking it. Is there a trick or secret lock? Can you please provide a hint? Thank you!
Here's a video from Hoon. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dw3bICGY9a8.html He used a chopstick to push the plastic insert out. Looking from the bottom of the portafilter, the insert has two small pegs/legs. You should use something not too sharp (I did and felt pretty terrible) to push the pegs one by one. It shouldn't require too much force.
@@prinzatago Thank you! I've managed to remove the plastic insert and I found that if you turn the machine on and let it warm up for 10 minutes, the portafilter will be just perfect and the plastic part is really unnecessary.
I learned from my mistakes when I bought my Bambino Plus and hand grinder that I eventually upgraded to an ESP. When I bought my sister a machine it was the Pro. She loves it and when I go over there, I enjoy using it. Ime the grinder is no worse than my ESP (not better either). And unlike my BP(I got unlucky with my firmware date) you can still finish your coffee when the Pro is ready to be cleaned...And the drip tray is way better too, lol. Anyway, I still think that if I upgrade at some point, it will be to the pro. I know I won't get "better" coffee, but I will get a better workflow that suites me just fine. As always, thank you for the video!
Breville bought Baratza a few years ago. If your machine was made somewhere during the past 3 years, high chances are you have the same quality grinder as an Encore ESP. It won't have the flexibility of grinding both espresso and filter coffee like the ESP because the adjustment mechanisms are not the same, but most of the internals are. Quite clumpy, WDT required, but overall very nice!
@@prinzatago Thank you for weighing in. I do know that about the Braztaza/Breville thing from other videos. As for filter, I don't find the ESP to make good filter coffee in the first place so I wouldn't try it with an internal grinder either, lol. But to be fair, I am not a big filter coffee drinker.
I haven't opened this one yet, but I can't imagine it would be easy. Both housings will be designed to accommodate the space and mounting of each heater. Cheers!
@TomsCoffeeCorner I was originally interested in the Express but I found this model (The Pro) for $500 which seems like a steal? I'm not an expert, however. But I think it's probably a no-brainer at this point to get the pro given all the positive things you've said about it. I'm a newbie and this would be my first espresso machine (other than a horrible 1990's Braun or a Nespresso). I'm looking forward to it.
3D printed Single-dose conversion kit is a great alternative to the hopper. I also keep my portafilter heated in a 2-cup Pyrex measuring cup with water heated by my microwave. I don’t use the machine to heat it to reduce blank shots that add to the shot count leading to sooner descale/flush maintenance prompts., reheating between coffee’s
Ich hab keine Ahnung welche ich mir kaufen soll. Alles so teuer 😣 aber ich will keinen Kapselkaffe und Vollautomaten. Was hältst du von der Phillips Baristina? Würdest du die mal testen?
Sorry, die Barista schaut sehr billig aus, ist aber teuer. Ich würde tatsächlich mit eine Dedica und Mühle anfangen...die bekommt man auch günstig bei den Kleinanzeigen. Wenn du magst, kannst du mir auch auf meine Webseite erreichen, und evtl einen Beratungstermin vereinbaren. Gruß!
Hello Tom, I am following you. I am from Turkey. I have an old model Delonghi manual espresso machine. I want to replace it with a new machine because of aluminum. I want the new espresso machine I will buy to be a healthy machine that does not contain aluminum, lead and brass, may be stainless steel. And at the same time, I want it to froth the milk really well and make very good cream. Because I love espresso macchiato very much as you know without milk, only with creamy froth the milk. I don’t want to clean difficulty. For example grinder. I bought King Grinder 6 as you offered. May be later I can buy Eureka Mignon XL later. As far as I have examined from your videos, sage machines usually stainless steel. Which one is better for me? Bambino plus or Duo temp pro or any other espresso machine or brand?
Looking into buying a Rivelia. Cant find a diecent indepth review, especialy on the foam texture that the machine produces. How does it go longside lets say Phillips 5400. Waiting for a Tom's review ;)
Thank you Tom. Your content is very useful when looking to buy new or upgrade. I have the Barista Express (and love it!) but I am considering upgrading. On the express I use the pressure gauge to dial in my grind size and tamping whenever I get new beans. How do you dial in the "espresso range" on this machine without that?
Thank you so much for the video - super helpful and insightful! Small question - if i'm not so interested in latte art - should i buy the barista pro, or the bambino plus and a separate coffee grinder (if so - which one?). Thank you, again!!
Idk, lots of people love the BP. I find it lacking in temperature. It's not hot enough for med or light roast imho. For the Pro, you can adjust the temp. Cheers!
Thanks! If it's the Bariata Pro, or an espresso machine + a separate grinder - what would it be? Around the same price range...would love to hear your opinion here 😊
I did not walked i ran to this video. Im in the marker for a machine because the price of coffee in the US has sky rocketed and i done the math i spend about 200 bucks in coffee in a month having a good machine will pay it self. I been learning a lot thanks.
Hello. Very nice video! One question: Do you clean the basket after the initial purge (around 7:40 mark in the video)? I always take the basket out to clean (making sure it's dry on all sides) but the portafilter often drops water on me.
I purchased a Sage Barista Pro about 5 years ago but during lockdown my son piked it for his flat. Since then I have tried a DeLongi and two different Gaggia's, I even went as low as a Nespresso machine, neither even touched the SBP. This morning I bit the bullet and ordered a new SBP after so many positive reviews for a machine that has well stood the test of time. Your video is great with lots of great information and I so cant wait to get back into it. A definate thumbs up from me.
Hi Tom, love your content! You were one of the first coffee based channel i stumbled upon a year or so ago and i am now on my way to purchasing a Barista Pro. I had a question, whether there is anyway to check if the model I am going to buy contains the updated Baratza burrs?
I haven't tested them side by side with the same beans, but from memory the Opus was a little more refined, and with a nice balance. But I do not think there's a huge difference. Cheers!
Thank you for providing such an informative and useful video Tom. I'm looking at buying my first proper espresso machine with reasonably good quality features and with some flexibility at a budget of around £600 (yes £, I'm in the UK!). This Sage Barista Pro is looking like the favourite so far. There's not really anything that compares at this price point as far as I can see. ATB, Julian
@@ABC28797 In the end I went for the Breville Barista Max plus and not the Sage machine. It's a compromise but excellent for the price and does the job well. It was on eBay brand new at £299 delivered! They have since upped the price to £399 but Currys are currently doing it on sale at £350. "Coffee Kev" on YT did an unboxing and review which is pretty much spot on the truth, accurate in his summation.
t could also be that your grinder is not ideal for espresso. Check out this short blog post: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/ Or this one, with some good cheap grinders: tomscoffeecorner.com/best-espresso-machine-and-grinder-setups-under-500/ These videos may also help: How to Get Crema: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-00NSG9459a8.html Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5BgMKqu8fJI.html How to estimate bean roast age for Lavazza: ru-vid.comQmVRpBGOokE How to extract the perfect espresso: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-piO6c695Op8.html ***I’d recommend looking on google maps for local coffee roasters. That's the best way to ensure freshly roasted beans. Cheers, Tom
You can readjust the grinder inside of the barista pro, there is a german video about that. Maybe there are some subtitles?! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3eqB50MWBck.htmlsi=Q2WUYGi0AFs4kMZQ
Tom looking to upgrade my dedica delonghi setup. Is a burr grinder necessary for the non pressurized basket to work? I was thinking of getting a blade grinder first, then the basket, then save money and get a burr. How would you do it? Thank you
I used blade grinder for a while and found it pretty disappointing, the grind size is inconsistent, making the shot bitter and sour at the same time : ( Recently upgraded to a burr and it just tastes so differently.
I would get this to be honest, because the bambino cannot be set for different temperatures. I honestly find the bambino to be a bit too low in temperature for me.
What are your thoughts on getting this one (Barista Pro) vs. a Gaggia Classic Evo plus say a DF54 as a dedicated grinder. Puts them both around the same price point. Most probably getting into the hobby big time. 😊
the gaggia seems to have serious mods available for pressure profiling if thats your thought. the df54 is flat burr vs conical on sage. depends on taste preference. both can make good coffee. df54 designed as no retention single dose. you can use different beans in an instant with df54 but sage hopper is full unless you just dose it for one shot. would like to see the finest grind on sage and also test with light roast and unroasted beans to see if it stalls. sage has higher learning curve owing to the screen programming functions whereas gaggia is old school made in italy italian boiler and these small home machine boilers heat up rather quickly. (have owned gaggia home, brasilia home machines) try both setups and taste the coffee. i owned a built in grinder breville a few years back and ended up getting rid of it because of grinder issues. could not grind fine enough for some beans.
Well, I cannot recommend the GCP Evo right now due to boiler flaking issues (see Boilergate). But an older GCP and DF54 would be a great combo to experiment with.
I just saw one for 499 on home goods and I got it saw your video with the machine in my cart, this would be my first machine. I worked a ls a barista 20 years ago and always wanted to buy a small one for my home. 🎉
They were quick to point out if I had this shipped to the USA, it would be $100. Oh, and NO WARRANTY. You MUST buy from within your country AND from a vendor listed on their site.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Well, thank you for your advice and help. I'll just have to wait for Breville to discount the Barista Pro here. It is a present. He love cappuccino and espresso. As a side note, I like the Lavazza DEK but you are right in that the beans are old. Volcanica decaf is a good option for the USA.
Hi Tom, it’s been a while… can you recommend a PDI temp setting for my 2010 Gaggia Classic..? I’ve been using it for over a year now but even though I’ve experimented with ratio and grind setting I still don’t think I’m getting the right taste? I’ve had the PDI set at 96c but I realise that isn’t necessarily the group temp, should I try higher or lower? I’m using fresh Monsoon Malabar beans… Cheers Tom 👍🏻
Hi there! Yes, that's the temp at the probe. At your grouphead it'll likely be a few degrees cooler. I'd adjust it in +/-2 degree steps and see where it tastes the best. Experimenting is part of the fun. Cheers!
