Sailing Expert Peter Lester on The America's Cup: Can It Be Brought Home? 

Yeah, no way on Gods blue earth ball could they have EVER staged such a long event here in New Zealand. Heck we can't even stage SailGP without getting in some sort of political swamp over stupid crap.

Grant Dalton can grow his own company ETNZ without our NZ tax payers funds..

@@blackline-qf6fl its a fraction of tax "wasted" just like movie subsedies or bilingual signage

@@blackline-qf6fl What a moaner

@@blackline-qf6flthere was no tax money this time , but plenty of income earned for the country

Agree

Grant Dalton only cares about lining his own pockets & has no loyalty to NZ.

Only if $ is not equal to an opportunity to be successful in defense, we've enough billionaires here we just don't have enough that are actually interested.

And it shouldn’t be, if we can’t afford it (by the way, we can’t).

Why would anyone contemplate supporting a country full of neonazis

Don't Hand Out our Bucks to any of them Bugger It

Really?? Its not * Sailing* it just go fast. turn corner. go fast. turn corner All over in 10 minutes

Brian it's great that in this current world we live in we are able to express our different views on this sport we love. I happen to follow the view of the late Uffa Fox who expressed the view that weight was only useful on a steamroller. Of course the J class have their historic role. But I applaud the dedication of the vast teams, not forgetting the dedicated support of their families. As for me I will let those who have most skin in the game to make the decisions. PS and I probably won't see the next one anyway

Yep.. and they can be the fools who'll fund Grant Dalton lifestyle instead of us the NZ tax payer.

@@MartinCraig-zt2sv I think you’re right.

@@MartinCraig-zt2sv spot on

​@@blackline-qf6flidiot

I watched replays while simultaneously streaming the virtual eye cartoon pictures from the Americ'as cup website. It meant I could keep up with the racing while they did all those cyclor and spectator shots. Wish they could find a better main commentator too.

Money talks. Unfortunately not enough Kiwi bucks available.

Its All a Game

the same with all the other challenges,

Grant Dalton proved he has no loyalty to NZ & his only care is to make himself money.

true they didn't have the name on the boat,but ea boat had their nations flag on the upper part of one of their their Masts,so all you had to do was look at the flag imprinted on their mast to know what nation a Boat represented

And

Just put up your $200m.

Nah i loved it Just Brilliant ETNZ 💪🏽 anything to beat billionaires with a Temu Budget and the brains of Albert Einstein lesshgoo

No problem with that. Stump up US$200M and it's back here. Just business

I guess that's always been the ethos of this cup, but I think we can leave them to it!

Yes, the boats are spectacular but where it all goes wrong is funding Grant Dalton lifestyle & the fact he took something that was intended for NZ & made it his own.

It has always been a Billionaire sport. Get a grip.

Always been a billionaires event

Sailing skill. But yes, no fun if it's a foregone conclusion on the day.

There are many sailing competitions with equal boats. The Americas Cup has never been one of those and God forbid that it ever goes that way. The Americas Cup has survived for 173 years for a reason.

There are 9999 sailing competitions with one-design boats. The whole point of the Americas Cup is that is is the ONE event that is as much or more about what designers and engineers can do within a set of rules ("formula") as it is about the sailors. Like Formula 1 in car racing, the ideal is to make a boat/car that would win no matter which of the top tier people you put in it. Why do you want there to be ZERO such events?

@@barrygeary9362 Americas cup is basically a designers race. There’s plenty other type regattas for all boats being similar as say Olympic sailing.

@@BruceHoult 💯🇳🇿

"We won because we picked better wind shifts". So you're saying we won because of our sailing skill, knowledge and acumen? You start by saying its about speed but then say we won by picking shifts, which is literally a main skill of traditional sailing. Isn't that exactly what you're asking for when you yearn for the older boats? And whats the problem with cycling? It's either a bunch of guys grinding with their arms or grinding with their legs, its still limbs going around in circles, legs are just obviously more powerful and more efficient. Also look at every single americas cup since 1983, one boat is always much faster. We haven't had a close Americas Cup in 40 years. Very often it was a clean sweep or close to it. We've won 5-0 lost 5-0, 7-2 here, on paper 2013 looked close at 9-8 but really it was effectively 8-0 to start and then 9-0 to finish. Wasn't close at all. One boat being faster than another is the norm in the America's cup, not an exception. Thats like complaining Usain Bolt is boring because he was faster than everyone else.

@@TheLeg_11 Yes some foiling boats are just faster - which causes a boring drag race. I didn't say ALL hence my special mention of closer racing this year (in the final). Yes we won due to acumen but it does not translate to the viewer. There is no tactician hanging off the side of the vessel screaming out that he has found good pressure. Just calm radio instructions to turn. Boring. The cycling sucks. It is ridiculous. Men tucked away in lycra wearing ski goggles? Dumb. Men grinding on the deck is visceral. You can hear them screaming at each other for more power. You can see their faces in agony. With the current racing you get a camera at their toes looking up at them while they drip sweat over it in their lycra. It royally sucks. Please read my comment again "Not all the old races were a spectacle". Yes the finals were often dictated by a faster vessel and subsequently a bore but I can show you plenty of close build up races where that is not the case. The modern race is a bore. There is more action in thirty seconds of old racing where a chase yacht rolls over the top of the leader downwind then in any foil race. It is like you are watching the management of yacht racing versus witnessing sailors slog it out on deck. God even the start is a bore. They just hoon around and in general keep their distance from one another. Look I get it. This is what the sponsors think the people want. But don't take my word for it. Look at the crashing lack of interest in the modern race as each cup passes. The organisers will say otherwise but there were bugger all vessels out watching and a real lack of interest back home. And over at the venue just some enthusiasts and family watching from shore.

bullshit about the fastest boat theory too, you could get beaten at any time, at least at home you got beaten doing the right thing . . .

I think that sums it up. We can't afford it. If we think we can afford that, then we've got money to put toward another hospital or some more essential.

@@kiwicam6419 Yep.. end the suffering first by building hospitals etc.. before spending any tax payer funds on sports..

Exactly

Yawns!! Yeah let’s go back in time. I wouldn’t watch it. Did I yawn? Love the modern racing and I’ve been watching since the 80’s.

Yawn

BS

Well I for one are all about finding it! ✨️😏🤳

@@Peter_Pepper_Love Cool. You go out there and raise 100 million for them then - and don't use any taxpayers money either. Seeing as how you are - all about it...

@barryscott6222 "I AM talking about your last sentence...and that has nothing to do about...shekels"