@@YacineScales He can probably reach hyper-outerversal as he's basically fighting a "God". Boundless would be too much and I don't think Murata will get the verse there
@@YacineScales probably,I don’t know but I feel opm with each arc jumps into crazy levels of power and seems like the series will come to an end soon but at this rate I might have to say yes
wukong is wild in mythology as are many gods that are said to be omnipotent. When you start scaling omnipotence logic starts breaking down. like someone who is omnipotent they can create an immoveable object and move that object because they can transcend logic as well. They can do anything since omnipotence means 'all ability' when translated literally or can do everything and anything even things that cannot be. if there is a logical conundrum that implies something cannot be done like both being unable to create something that cannot be moved or moving something that cannot be moved both must be true because they can do any and everything. Omnipotent characters aren't even fun to scale because they can break logic the fun part of scaling is the logical reasoning and characters who are not bound by logic kind of defeat the point.
Its kinda possible if analyze breaking logic logically by comparing feats? Like how we scale speed tiers beyond infinity. Higher speed tiers like inaccessible are so fast compared to infinity that we cant even imagine it even though mathematically its literally the same speed.
@@davidnewhart2533 it’s not really a definition thing. it’s they describe something and it just gets translated as omnipotence because we don’t share words for the different concepts it’s just our best analog. Wukong and Buddha aren’t omnipotent in the same way judeo-christian god is but they kind of are still out of logic with some of the things that they do. where what happens as a result of their action is a contradiction but isn’t because they did it. It just kind of breaks down at a certain point when you get into this realm of power scaling. some people enjoy debating and discussing these concepts but it just derives further and further until it ends up just being it’s own spiral. I don’t want to dismiss it because there are discussions to be had i just don’t enjoy it much personally.
As a fan of your content, I notice that a lot of topics you cover are usually NOT CLOSE. I find when things are arguably close to be more entertaining because of the better variety of content to figure out who would win, rather than it just being obvious. Just a recommendation though!
@@sirkroomie You only thought saitama would win because you weren't aware of sun wukong's strength; there's no way that you actually knew who sun wukong was along with his strength, and you still thought saitama would win
@@starternoob3379 he's High Extraversal in base. High Pataversal when reached Nirvana, and he has Transfinite Pataversal to even Omnipotent forms above thst too.
@@computritori I mean that wasn't even cannon it was just a fan made. All it would give was an impression that anime fans are delulu asf, but personally I don't even care if Saitama gets/surpass Terra 3, but ruining the whole show and storyline just for that imo isn't worth it.
why people campare fictional characters lol no chracter is stronger than the other. I can make up a character rn and he can just be the strongest because i wrote him to be and the character has no flaws almost like saitama and wukong.
I don't want to act like I'm annoying you but do you have any plans for JoJo videos soon? I'm the guy who's been asking for a while lol. Take your time tho :)
i wanna mention a few things, first of all that Full power thing was entirely debunked to be mistranslation by just looking into the chinese translations
Even with the most lowballed, simplest and smallest lowballed version of Sun Wukong in this video can beat an illogically overvoosted Saitama. This video truly beyond understates how badly Wukong stomps Saitama.
@@pappyslap6239 i can totally send end of series G.O.D running to heaven from saitama saying “CLOSE, HE ALMOST GOT ME. THANKFULLY I’M ABLE TO TRANSCEND INTO HERE” then saitama says something like “cool place here dude 😀 “
@Fachezz no I'm saying ur comparing saitama (a being who has been shown to practically do anything he puts his mind to) to a god who can do anything. One punch man was shown to master time travel within secs.. there's so much we don't even know about him. He hasn't shown his limits too. He continues to only exponentially get stronger.
@@footballboy1085 I wouldn’t I know he definitely in the top tier when it comes to strong anime characters (not including crazy overpowered isekai tho)so yeah I’m not downplaying saitama I just know wulong is levels ahead of
Realistically the monkey king would realize who Saitama really is and if he wants to help a sparring match will happen to prepare all heroes who are willing to help; he has abilities to see the truth and discern feeling energies. He would know that Saitama is a hero. If Sun Wukong steps out of line there is something.
Their fight would probably destroy not only the planet but the solar system as well seeing from saitama's fight with garou saitama grew stronger and stronger without any limits and since wukong can match it all it will probably continue until a big dent is made in the universe until saitama loses. maybe even destroying the universe as well who knows
Everyone just forgets that saitama cant lose. You could have the entire fictional universe against him and he doesn’t lose because he’s a gag character.
saitama isn't a gag character, hes a comedic guy. Road runner is a gag character, all he does is run. Saitama does a lot more than punch, his funniest jokes aren't even to do with punching.
wukong is an unstoppable character he doesnt die his whole gag is he doesnt die he got scared of death so hard in jttw he reached nirvana and was equal to buddha
Yo, add some Pokemon stuff in the match ups. People often look over Pokemons, even thiugh they can solo most verses. Zygarde vs Kaido Kizaru vs Ultra Necrozma Mewtwo vs Tatsumaki Groudon vs Akainu Machamp vs Baki Marshadow vs Speed o' Sound Sonic Giratina vs Aizen Dialga vs Julius Novachrono
Saitama might not be as powerful as end of game wukong but def has the durability/defence to withstand his attacks, which saitama can then eventually catch up to wukong in power as quite possibility surpass him
Can Saitama surpass high outerversal-boundless? Can Saitama surpass infinite perfect clones of himself, all with the same power and infinite potential as Saitama? Don't think so.
We can't scale strength of limitlessely strong characters. So we cannot decide who is the winner. According to me Wukong is a character who is meant for always winning but lose if he becomes evil. As Saitama is a guage character and can only be defeated by weak characters like mosquito and king(in video games) not by the strongest. Saitama wins. Leave a like
@@Ishow_autisumI know right. Like these Saitama stans. 😂 Wukong will just one shot him or make an exact copy of Saitama to fight him with infinite potential. End of series wukong just shits on him and with Nirvana, Wukong will play with Saitama for an eternity letting him get as strong in an eternity and Saitama is still not winning against the Victorious Fighting Buddha. Because he reached Nirvana, not even nothing ness can beat him.
@@thechinamigos6802 gang, you know wukong hasn't limits but, saitama can destroy literal universes and galaxies with just one punch or sneeze, saitama solos
Those who doesn't pay close attention to details in the opm manga are just making false assumptions and doesn't know how to power scale right and saitama isn't galaxy level or universal level he is for beyond that and the writer knows what he is doing because the writer is keeping saitamas power a mystery but for the people who understand they actually pay attention to details like those delusional people that can't correct powerscale or making false questions about saitamas power and plus he is meant to surpass anyone doesn't matter who it is he is just going to outgrow them immeasurably fast
@@Idkihavenolife not related but I wouldn't have responded to you if I didn't check all my notifications because I said Kendrick is better than Eminem and his stans got mad and flooded my notifications lol.
Just read about hinduism than, it's hella complex and more diversed, in fact Buddhism itself has came from hinduism Or you can say Buddhism is just a nerfed version of hinduism And wukong himself is a different version of wukong, Hanuman was going to eat the sun, mistaking it for a mango, when he was a baby
@@MikotoFushiguro-iu7we exactly, you're either saying you're not comparing Saitama but some random that has galaxy level feats or you're comparing a fight which only has one outcome,the unbeatable one winning.
how powerful are Buddha and wukong? doesn't matter for gholamreza, if there was infinite numbers of Buddha's and wukong's, gholamreza would defeat all of them
One thing I'd like to say is that Infinite strength isn't as big of a outrageous feat as many people believe it to be (or atleast in powerscaling) The infinite strength feat is at best (without dimensionality context I believe) High Universal This would just mean that Saitama can 1 shot anyone he wants in a 3D scale and not anyone he want or he can use as much strength as he wants to use Which would also explain why he is able to defeat almost all of his opponents in a single hit with cosmic garou as an exception and that too was because he copied the guy with infinite strength
One punch man’s god would one shot sun wo kong because empty void only used one cube “God” in one punch man has at least 8 cubes or something from the manga because we see many cubes from blasting collecting them
Please read JTTW, first wukong can't die, second he has countless layer's of immortality, third he has 84 thousands of hair which he can use to make clones of himself, weapons, or copies of his opponents, he can make his clones stronger than him, forth he is everywhere, last he has an ability known as 72 transformation, he can transform to other beings qnd have 72 extra lives, which means GOD from OPM needs to kill wukong 72 times and has counless immortality
@@pappyslap6239 being a Saitama fan, I can agree some young fellas blindly say Saitama solos fiction and all but wukong is not even a fictional character, he's a god in Buddhism. Fiction is manmade.
Facts shits disappointing they are literal mythical figures that have an influence and importance in a country’s culture and these kids wanna see a playground elementary fictional fight cause they hear he is powerful
And yea people based their characters off the original wu kong like mori jin and goku but powerscalers make it so disingenuous wanting to just see a fight when thats not what wu kong represents in chinese culture he is a religious figure in buddhism. He was not created to battle everyone fav anime and comic heavy hitters so anime kids can buss💦 ROR is good tho
Saitama wins and it's not close. Wukong has insane feats, but that will not save him from Saitama's fists bro. Saitama will always win as long as you are evil. It's that simple
Multiversal scaling: Genos in ch-169 states Saitama transcends the concept of space and time, transcending space and time is at bare minimum a 5D feat, but as it was shown in ch-201 that OPM has gotten a multiversal+ buff (could be complex multiversal by some scales), so we can conclude that saitama scales higher than multiversal+ and if complex multiversal scaling of the verse is correct, he must be higher than that (as transcending space and time scales you a dimension higher than the verses cosmology) Feat to support this argument: Saitama in his cosmic garou fight, grabbed a wormhole and we know wormholes transcend time and space and are abstract entities, so that means Saitama should scale at the same as well(im not 100% sure if this one's correct but anyways) At the end I don't necessarily believe in this scaling and can be considered wank if not overwank but anyways
And also another arguments can be empty void grabbing the fabric of reality in ch-197 which should scale him to low-high multiversal or high depending on where you scale the cosmology And we know Saitama obviously scales above him so...
@@troller9838scratch marks that went away a few mins after? Happens alot in cartoons u see the marks but they basically took no damage this a gag scene btw
