@@SethJamesDeMoor Old follow up comment...been running the Speedcross 4’s religiously over a deployment and countless trail miles, they are simply the best all around trail shoe money can buy. Need to get with the times and get myself into the 5’s. Great content as always Seth, keep them coming.
I love my speed cross shoes. I have been buying these for 5+ years now with no issues. I run on a variation of gravel, big wet rocks, mud small hills and these Speedcross’s have never let me down.
Hey Seth...I was always a little sceptical of the speedcross 4, many runners were complaining of the narrow footbox. I asked around and heard that in the speedcross 5 that problem was fixed (which you basically validated in your review)...so I went and bought a pair! I'm doing my 3rd 10km trail in them tomorrow morning and I am loving them so far! By a long way the best trail shoes I have ever worn! Strongs for Pikes Peak tomorrow, good luck!
Confidence!! WOW--the wind!! You still need to publish the coffee table version on all of the beautiful scenic God-made views. Just a quick something to add. Wednesday started out horrible. I had to go one place only be sent to go to another. Many other little disasters happened. So, I go into Ingles grocery store, where they have a Starbucks. I preceded to order. I had a discussion with the young guy about why I'd be glad when all these Valentine Day's things are gone. He asked why I didn't like V-day. I told him that my ex husband of 30 years he married close to V-day. As I was checking out, this guy came up to me with a heart full of candy.----I CRIED!! He had ran at least half of the store just to reach me. Thank you to all who do the smallest things that make more of an import than you'll ever know. Be Thankful !! God bless!!
Just ordered a pair of the all reds from the Salomon site for $106 after watching this video. I’m new to trail running and from everything I’ve seen I should love these. Great informative video👍🏻
For wet and muddy conditions I like to wear the Altra King MT 1.5, the have a very aggressive outsole with a vibram grip. The only bad thing about them is that the upper mesh of the shoe doesn't last. I put 200 miles on mine, including a 50k and the upper is done. P.S. Good video Seth! I enjoy watching your shoe reviews and I like that you put 50 miles on a shoe before submitting a review.
Thanks Andrew! Good to know about that Altra. Is that the most aggressive outsole from Altra? I’m not as familiar with their line up which continues to grow and grow.
@Seth James DeMoor Great review. Thank you. I haven't seen the 5 in GTX (Gore-Tex) yet. I think once those are released you won't have to worry about that water you felt coming thru in the toe box. Also that stiffness in the four may be due in part to the GTX lining. I've noticed a pretty significant difference when I were any of Salomon's shoes with GTX vs without. Great series on the 5 so far. I found you while trying to decide if I should upgrade. Based on what I'm seeing from your vids, it would be a good move for me. Thank you. I've been wearing the Speedcross since the 3. I daily wear and do some lite hiking in the XA Pro and more aggressive hiking in the Quest 4D 3.
Seth i know i'm a little late, but i loved this review. Trully Amazing!!! I totally agree..i only want to give you some more infos. 1)The outsole is called C o n t a g r i p and also 2) the heel cup was made this way for more secure fit in your heel, especially in downhill fast runs!!! Love your work, keep going and good luck!!!
I'm from the Lake District, UK and we certainly have a lot of muddy conditions here. On the start line of a fell race here you'll typically see something like 80% of people with Inov8 shoes are on their feet (and with good reason). Mudclaws or X-Talons are the popular choice for sloppy conditions. Having said that I'm personally loving the Hoka EVO Jawz due to their light weight & aggressive outsole with Vibram MegaGrip. VJ XTRM are also worth checking out for their excellent grip also.
Have +500 miles on one pair of these and another on the way. Best trail shoe i've ever owned, hands down. Durability, fit and traction are superb. If you have wide feet be sure to order the wide version, these are a bit narrow imo.
I am new to running and a new subscriber to your channel as well. I have to say, I absolutely love you videos. Very informative for someone new to running as I am. Keep up the good work.
I was looking at these at an awesome price on Amazon for $94 Size 13 for my big ogre feet. But they Sold out on me when I was ready to pull the trigger. I ended up going with another solid brand & spent a lil more on a Pair of Merrell's Moab Speed GORE-TEX. They were a lil more at $128 with a 20% from $160. They arrive on Wednesday. If I catch these on another sale I may scoop them up before they sell out again they look really good. I also buy a lesser expensive shoe from Sketchers as an everyday work shoe. Sketchers Go Run Trail Altitude for $55-75 on Zappos. It's a Very light weight shoe imo and the goga mat insole feels like you're running on a cloud.
My go to shoe in very muddy conditions is the Walsh PB Elite. Similar to the innov8 mudclaw bit doesn’t clog with mud and are lighter. They are handmade too in the UK
I own two trail shoes: the Hoka One One Speedgoat 4 and the Inov-8 Mudclaw 300. I use the Speedgoat for rocky/slightly muddy terrain - it's my favourite shoe out of all of my running shoes. However, for heavy muddy conditions like we have here in the Netherlands I use the Inov-8's. I've actually only used the Speedgoat's abroad (e.g. in the the Alps and Pyrenees) because we don't have mountains here haha. But I do love trail running even though there aren't any dedicated marked trails in my area. I just run off-road through the meadows with the Mudclaw's - that's fun too!
I switch between the Hoka Evo Mafate and Inov8 Mudclaw G 260, Hoka for drier conditions and Inov8 for wet, muddy and snow, Inov8 Arctic Claw for really icy runs
I tried doing Salomon's but they were just a little too narrow on my feet. 10mm is a lot. The shoe sounds amazing...I may have to give it another try. Brooks with hex screws!
Its is said that the Speedcross 5 because of the design and the new materials will fit wider feet too. I dont even have wide feet and i wanted to buy a Speedcross 4 and my size was so tight and narrow and one size up was a little to big. I wanted them for hiking or when outdoors on mountains.
I like the 5, but I like the feel of the 4 way better. The 5 is just a little to bulky and heavier. If they took the new tread, higher back collar and put it on the speedcross 4, it would be a perfect combination.
I don't know if you ever heard of this brand, Kalenji Trail Race 4. Bought it off Decathlon Store. Perfect for trail races in my country, Malaysia. Dry, wet, muddy, river crossing, raining etc...check it out!
@@SethJamesDeMoor I think the Decathlon Store (or Company) is a UK based co. But I honestly not sure myself about the Kalenji brand. I couldn't find any youtube (in English) review before bought it but lucky me, the sales person in my local store was knowledgeable enough to explain to me the different model for the Kalenji Trail shoes and what types of trail each model suits. AND it is awesome for it's not-too-expensive kind of shoes that performed well in those conditions!
Decathlon is based in France. Discount athletic wear & gear. I purchase a medium weight rain jacket for $45 US! Love it, seam sealed & tons of reflective trim for dark running!👍
My go to Salomon sense pro, not great in mud, but rockery ascent and descent they are great. Never fell once, which has not been the case in other trail shoes. Sense pro 3 is really SLAB 6 soft ground at $60 cheaper, heard they are great. Sense ride are good for road to trails and can handle everything but the worst. Review the sense pro 3
having friends doing orineteering (which means: really cross country), they use INOV-8 Oroc and Icebug Spirit: I personally use Salomon Speedcross (4) GTX, but on ice and snow, I prefer the Icebug.
Confidence! Altra Lone Peak 4 - love the feel - the stone guard has been great on some of the really hard rocky NE trails and grippy in the mud here as well
Confidence! QD: It's gotta be my Speedcross 4's! They aren't worn enough to get me to buy 5's yet, but as long as they keep making them in a wide size I'm all over them!
Excellent review Seth, certainly a shoe that I might pick up in the future. To be honest I don’t have a great shoe for very muddy conditions, my 2 trail shoes are the Lone Peak 3.5 and the Superior 3.0. At the moment I use the superior for wet conditions, because the Lone Peak is terrible for this, but the superior isn’t great either in my opinion. Might have to check out Some alternatives. :)
Would you suggest this or any specific shoe for hiking in Utah’s deserts?! I’ll be hiking angels landing and Zion National parks “the narrows” which is a rocky watery canyon. Please offer me your best solution because last year I was miserable hiking in Moab Utah in Nike’s! 😭😂
The lugs aren't as burly, but check out the New Balance Summit Unknown. Much lighter, has a similar Salomon fit and high drop, firm midsole (it's basically a racing flat with a trail outsole). Personally, the Speedgoat 2 is my go to for rocky, technical stuff.
Hi Seth - thanks for your great reviews. I also got myself a pair of these great shoes. Just one correction: to the best of my knowledge these don't have a rock plate! I think with the current design of the outsole with the aggressive lugs a rock plate doesn't really add any value...I most certainly don't miss it.
Seth. Love the channel. Great content. Would you recommend the Speedcross 5 for a 5K Spartan sprint race? Or do you have other trail runner recommendations that might be better for this type of technical short race? Keep up the great work.
Thank you for the great review Seth! I was unable to find the Salomon Speedcross 5 in red color, the color shoes that you used in review. Can I know where and how you able to find them.
You mentioned to possibly use campsaver when ordering these. I’ve seen some pretty negative reviews on ordering through them. Have you had any issues when ordering through them?
How does the fabric and material hold up on rocky slopes, scree, dense alders? I like the cool look of the Speedcross series of Salomon but I blow out the material on the inner ball of the shoe on all my pairs. I had to use duct tape to patch the holes on all of my shoes when I started running out here.You said the material is lighter so does that mean it's weaker than the 4's? I run in the Brooks Range in De Long Mountain Range in Alaska and "bomb" down mountains without trails and literally feel like I'm going to rip the material from the sole on descents. The material looks like some sort of rip stop but believe me it doesn't stop ripping. The terrain out here is like being on the moon. I have to purchase used rock climbing shoes, disassemble the rubber material and epoxy them to the front and sides of my shoes to prevent this. I don't care about Gore-Tex material for a trail running shoe or getting my feet wet. It's a trail running shoe-If I had a nickel for every time I crossed a creek or glacial runoff I'd be designing my own shoes. I run in Seal Skinz as socks because it's inevitable I'm going to get my shoes wet but my feet stay somewhat dry. Any suggestions for a bombproof shoe?
After my SpeedCross v4 were used and also cracked on both pinky-toe location I decided to try/order V5. The upper shoe cloth is very flimsy in comparison to V4. The front of the shoe is much softer and less protective as V4. Also, out of the box V5 smell like a chemical plant. Most importantly, the V5 size 11 is longer by a 1/4” than V4. I also read from other reviewer V5 do not drain and leave a bad shoe smell. I am done with Salomon will have to look elsewhere.
GREAT, great review...just what I was hoping for! Needed to decide between the Speedcross and the Supercross. Just started with a pair of the Snowspikes (retired my set of Snowcross 2's) and very happy with the fit, feel and function...thank you! My go-to shoe here in Central Pennsylvania (and having lived in Longmont and run on all the Open Space trails in and around Boulder), our trails are very similar to what I ran back there...obviously not the elevation, but just a rock, rooted, chewed up...has either been the LaSportiva Akyra or the Ultra Raptor. Odd question...what gimbal are you using on your handheld for the camera? Thanks!
Hi Seth. You mentioned water ingress on the shoes. Whats your opinion of waterproof socks like the Sealskinz ? I use them for golf but am thinking of trying them this winter in my Salomons.
Hi Seth! Great channel! I’m gonna be running the Lavaredo Cortina (50km) and wondering whether I’d be better with the S/Lab Sense 7 or the Speedcross 5s. I’m just in it to finish, not trying to bust out a super fast time. Would love your advice! Thanks in advance! 🙏
No need for gaiters? Ever use them? If so, what kind? NIce review. Have you covered the cushioning performance of these shoes in earlier reviews? Thanks.
I have never used gaiters, maybe for a long multi day effort in muddy conditions! Not sure I would ever use gaiters in a race. Are you running in a lot of mud?
@@SethJamesDeMoor - Not so much mud, as small rocks/pebbles getting in the shoes. It's a hassle to have to stop, untie, slap out the rocks, retie, and try to resume the same rhythm (only when the little rocks get finally too intolerable, that is). Pretty much every trail I've encountered has these jumping pebbles. Does it never become an issue for you? Is it my uniquely ungainly gait that's kicking in these pebbles into my own shoes, I wonder...
Double double! Impressive! Confidence! I don't do well in high drop shoes I like the saucony peregrin for my muddy and rooty Ohio trails, no rock plate in the 8 tho :( used to run in brooks cascadia 11, GREAT shoe but again trying to stay consistant on that heel drop for now.
They had a past version of Peregrine "Ice" with special outsole...amazing! Might still be available. Peregrines IMO are good all around trail shoes, but super rocky rutty trail they might not handle as well as the Salomon.
I have had some Achilles issues In the past from running and try to be very cognizant when picking out a trail shoe. The drop on these seems great, can you comment on the achilles support or if you have had any issues in that area? Any advice for a Achilles injury prevention during those long runs?
Seth James DeMoor Happy to be your personal running guide if in town! If any longer than passing through...I’d highly recommend running Box Hill and the surrounding Surrey Hills 😍 20 miles south but it’s beautiful! Question: is this a hint of a UK trip??#RunDeMoorGlobally
Hi Seth, thanks for the great post! I was wondering if they are good enough if you run about 25 miles in one run? Or are there better options out there?
Hi. I yuse inov-8 x claw 275. I yust joined your channel to find out what my new shoe choice should be. I'm torn between salamon speedcross 4 or 5 or the salamon sense ride 2.
Seth James DeMoor Thanks! Any concerns about the lack of breathability (just based on some internet reviews I’ve read), for when they get wet (I don’t want waterproof, but something that will dry on the inside if I step in water)?
Great review! 10mm drop sucks though. I'll stay with the s/lab Sense 7 SG and my Vivo Barefoot shoes for mud and snow. I like salomon less and less, they keep getting more unstable with every new model. I kind of regret getting the the S/lab Sense 7 's. For 'normal ' dry trails I like Altra trailshoes and my vivo's.
