That Hunter Biden Laptop story was an easy test of principle for sam and he failed it badly. The rest is just clever sounding rationalization for his own lack of principle on the issue. Next time he speaks of freedom of speech or freedom of the press, he ought to be laughed at.
Trump has been living rent free in Sam's head for 6 years and has crowded out any rational thoughts. Sad and cowardly/sycophantic behaviour from interviewers with no pushback for utter tosh psychobabble Kamala style word salad. Trigger need to educate themselves about MAGA and have someone on to counter Sam's TDS or be found out as completely partisan. I suggest Steve Bannon or Jack Posobiec. I understand why Tim Cast blocked KK.
I listened to every Sam Harris podcast, till his one on vaccinations, where he stated any of his peers who disagreed, challenged or critiqued the efficiency or outcomes of the new vaccine was either psychotic, schizophrenic or in some way mentally ill. That characterisation of people who disagreed with him was chilling to me. He also said on that podcast in this case he believed that other peers and professionals should be censored on media platforms if they disagreed because they pose such a danger to the population. I couldn't believe my ears after all the support he has been given to speak on sensitive issues. I discovered in that podcast the depth of his intellectual dishonesty and I didn't want to hear anything more of what he had to say.
@@anonymoustoo4945 There is no way that Sam will take on any of the new studies and information that supports everything his very intelligent and professional peers warned about. His ego is too strong and unfortunately he's becoming quite a fundamentalist in his ideas.
Watching your guys' faces as one of the most respected and internationally famous public intellectuals just breathlessly torches his own career in front of you is a sight to behold. Many didn't think he was this far gone, but great interview! You laid his beliefs bare. His new-found respect for Liz Cheney is proof he's willing to compromise even his most ardently argued ideas, for the sake of getting rid of trump. It's embarrassing to watch.
The Cheneys literally murdered the weapons inspector that blew the whistle on no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, then went on to kill a million Iraqis but somehow this is all water under the bridge for phony philosopher Sam bitch face
My follow up for Sam would have been: If twitter is a private company that only wants to publish info based on its bias and without consistent terms, why not lift its section 230 liability protection and treat it as a publisher?
Yep. And I'm sure that has been an argument against him other times, but these lads are British, so they're not that familiar with the details I'd wager. "Intellectual honesty" my bottocks. If he was intellectually honest, he'd bring that argument up himself and defeat it. Instead he strawmanned it as if the government would storm Twitter HQ with firearms and override the servers. That's never been the debate, ever. The only thing the government would do is say "Sure, go ahead and sue the platform that let [insert either Alex Jones fanatics, Ethnonationalists, BLM, Antifa, Trans activist lunatics, wokists, etc] harass you without stopping them in time.", and Twitter would be dead in a week.
It is a publisher and the sooner it (and other sm) is treated as a publisher the better for society. Once you are capable of addressing the whole world the platform needs to be regulated.
If you have your demons you have your holies, blasphemy laws, agendas, narratives. Engines of propaganda and repression are clearly what all these lawless monopolistic platforms turned out as.
Intellectuals are no more moral or immoral than anyone else. The difference is that they have a greater ability to rationalize their beliefs. And history shows us that we can reason ourselves towards evil quite easily, as in the case of communism.
Bro I'm tired of people shitting on communism, people are the ones that become dictators, people are the ones that kills others, where in communism says that you have to kill your rivals? Communism is not perfect but you have to scape this western bubble the government try to keep us on.. look how diss-equal is capitalism, yeah be free to say what you want " not all the time thou" but be poor and work all day your entire life.
Sam’s defense of Twitter’s behavior is contemptible and reveals the authoritarian that he has always been from supporting eugenics policies and the war on terror in the past to his support of technocratic interference in elections today.
Sam is scattered and totally lost in this interview. It's strange seeing him justify horrible immoral ideas with little to no actual evidence. This was very weird.
It's sad that for years he advocate rationality, promote free speech and anti censorship. Today he is opposite what he used to advocate like more emotional, anti free speech and pro censorship. Not to mention "hollier than thou" attitude that he adopt today.
Trump scammed people with Trump University therefore we must actively destroy every system and principle this country was founded upon in order to see he never comes close to power again. Let us ignore those who would claw their way to the top in the confusion. They're no threat, I promise. They're the good guys, trust me. Blue checks on Twitter are intelligent, adversarial journalists to the permanent state, take my word for it. Dead kids in the basement? Trump might try to sell me some shitty steaks. Yuck. Sam is an intelligent person. It is incredible how a mind like his can be so thoroughly broken by TDS, but it really makes you wonder if Sam can succumb to it then how easily lesser men did, too.
I thought so as well. I had trouble following his thought train and the accusations without any evidence was disingenuous. There are a few times he starts to form a coherent thought and then immediately drops into TDS/Alex Jones hate.
@@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 Trump really broke a lot of people including very intellectual people. They had it in their mind that society would continue on a certain course and when trump put a halt to that it really damage them. Probably living under 4 years of a president you despise is enough to do that to many people. We really are 2 different countries forced to occupy the same space.
Very well conducted interview. Hard to listen to due to the unabated TDS and heavy bias, but interesting nonetheless. It really seems like Trump did something PERSONALLY to him. It's odd how his objectivity just goes out the window on anything Trump related. A real vendetta.
He's an intellectual elitist. I think he would be happy if a specific IQ or set of certain credentials were required to even run for the office of president of the United States.
This is some EXTREME long haul TDS. Trump was president for four years, and not only did none of the doom and gloom predictions come to pass, but things actually ran pretty well. Good economy, ended the Korean war, Abraham accords, defeated ISIS, deescalated with Russia, energy independence and better border protection. We know Trump is an asshole, but he's effective. You're not having him over for dinner, so please judge based on policy, not personality. What harmful policies were passed that would have you overthrow the electoral process and abuse power to avoid?
To me this argument boils down to: do you allow someone to become president to ultimately destroy democracy or do we allow the scales to become tipped to ultimately save it. Interesting conversation all around
Sam: thank you for teaching me to be against the censorship that you now stand for. This is extremely sad to me. I loved waking up the book and his free will book. He was always one of my favorite thinkers. He stood for free speech, stood next to hitch, and always brought forth rational & well thought out responses. However it seems as though covid and Trump broke his brain. He’s another victim. He took the stance of being pro-mandate and pro vax. He didn’t challenge the cdc & the sketchy data coming out. Further, It was so sad seeing him be pro-Censorship and be against freedom of information. he took the weird stance of “orange man bad no matter what” which can be seen in this interview.
Was scrolling quickly, reading most comments and was waiting for someone sane to actually comment. I thought I was the only one who saw what you saw! I like to think my self as an independent mind, but Sam’s current views spew “hate the orange man, censorship is alright”
Agree. Use to love listening to Sam. He was a deep thinker. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe he is, but he doesn't seem to be standing back and thinking through these issues
"Trump clearly violated Twitters terms of service, maybe not as written, but as Twitter should have had them." ... this is amazing, does he even hear himself speak?!
Because he lives by "do good" instead of "don't be evil". "The greater good" is dangerous. People believing in "the greater good" is too often ready to sacrifice the individual on their way. A Lot of the real evil stuff of history were done by zealots thinking they were serving something good. Not much evil has ever been done by those who refuse to trample on the individual on their way.
I think he meant Trump and Jones are the ‘psychopaths’ and the supporters are merely ‘morons’. Nice way to win friends and influence people/at least half the country hey!
@@veryverysaline3376 nothing screams objective as the exact dialouge trees I can find on reddit and twitter. Its almost as if leftists are not real people. They're literally NPC characters with the same programming.
When you have no firm grounding for your morality, and outright reject that a firm grounding exists, it's easy to dismiss your morality in favor of "the greater good" as you see it.
When Sam said Brett Kavanaugh was guilty because “he looked like someone who would do that”, I was done with him. His TDS made his entire “I’m the most critically honest person in the room” motif complete garbage. Totally exposed him as a fraud. And I used to LOVE Sam.
Yeah- hashtag me too. This is some EXTREME long haul TDS. Trump was president for four years, and not only did none of the doom and gloom predictions come to pass, but things actually ran pretty well. Good economy, ended the Korean war, Abraham accords, defeated ISIS, deescalated with Russia, energy independence and better border protection. We know Trump is an asshole, but he's effective. You're not having him over for dinner, so please judge based on policy, not personality. What harmful policies were passed that would have you overthrow the electoral process and abuse power to avoid?
I think calling him a fraud is unfair. I think he is genuine. He's just wrong to think it's ok to sacrifice principles to get rid of a person you don't like.
For years I believed Sam Harris was right in The Moral Landscape in saying that we could divorce morality from religion. After seeing his rapid decline into authoritarian consequentialism, I believe he has become the personification of why his argument was flawed.
I haven't followed him closely for many years, but it seems from here that Sam is _still_ playing this '"high-priest of atheist nerds'" charade for as long he can ride it to the bank. Nietzsche's _Genealogy of Morals (A Polemic)_ describes what Sam has failed to grasp; such as the absurdity of 'noble morals' in relation to religious (and consequently, secular) notions of compassion.
Yup, I used to call myself a "recovering Christian", and saw Harris (et al) as a safe haven for my position. Now, based on his incredible dishonesty, I've, once again, got to examine my beliefs. Ironically, Sam Harris will be the cause of many folks turning to faith.
@@Si_Mondo It's more like the moments where he failed were so monumental that they overshadowed his better moments. I still think that if it wasn't for that podium hijack, he would've been the Dem nominee against trump. That would've been very interesting to see and even more interesting if he'd won. Alas, the podium was taken, Hillary was the nominee and Sanders fell in line.
I don't think atheism is exempt from becoming the basis for a religion. Once things get to the point of having an all-encompassing Grand origin story (GOS Evolution), which is taken to be THE TRUTH, religiously, I think it will operate as a religion.
@@johnknight3529 you may have misunderstood what atheism is. Atheism is the null hypothesis of the god question. If you were an atheist, you'd neither believe a god exists, nor believe a god does not exist. It's not an assertion on the god question, and it certainly isn't an assertion about evolution (?) Atheism isn't necessarily the basis of a religion, but I will agree that there are a ton of people who are self-proclaimed atheists for very dogmatic reasons.
@@jmh31890 I don't see how it's even possible for it to be the basis of a religion. There isn't really anything one can deduce from the statements "There is no god" or "I'm not convinced there is a god". Whatever moral framework is formed needs to be based on additional assumptions.
@@martinm6368 those who misunderstand what atheism is such they assert "there is no god" and subscribe to it as dogma would be a solid foundation for a religion, from my perspective. Though, I guess then it depends on how you define religion and my usage of the word here is something akin to "dogmatic belief" Edit: a word
I used to love this guy. He goes to show however; no matter how intelligent you are; no matter how good your reasoning abilities.. if all the information you consume is corrupted you will be wrong about everything. At some point, it is definitely his fault. He pretentiously filtered his information to only come from sources that an elite person such as himself should consume. Anyone who wasn't part of the MSM was just an 'internet goon" and therefore could be dismissed without any consideration. His world view is now built on so many lies; he seems insane.
Ok. Take what you said and turn it on yourself. How do you know that's not what you did? Most Magapedes turned to complete unreliable commentary "news entertainment" sensationalizing content with no editorial control and Facebook and internet memes from high control groups as "truth" and never fact checked any of it. Tell me that's not you.
@@Ciph3rzer0 Well for one, the people/groups I was listening to turned out to be right about many things. I was getting exposed to MORE context, not less than those simply listening to the deliberately de-contextualized media narratives. For example, I knew back in 2016 that the whole Russia/Trump narrative was likely JUST a Clinton campaign strategy that the establishment decided to pick up and run with. It was in the wikileaks (which people like Sam would have no idea about because the media would not be going to talk about it). Right about the time that the media started running with baseless Trump/Russia stories; there was the leaked email exchange between Clinton campaign staff about trying to tie Trump to Putin. Over the next couple of years, more and more evidence came out from groups like Judicial watch (who actually sue the government and get documents) that were revealing the ties between the completely false Steele dossier, the Clintons, and the laundering of it into the DOJ through the husband of one of Fusion GPS employees. It showed the FBI at the highest levels were corrupt, that they hated Trump and wanted to fix the wrong 2016 result. That they knew the Steele dossier was full of bullshit; but they used it anyhow as the backbone for lying to the FISA court to get spy warrants for people within Trumps campaign. All of this information I knew years ago and I hope by 2022 you at least have some vague acceptance that the whole Trump/Russia collusion narrative and investigations for years and years were NOTHING but bullshit. People like Sam (and perhaps you by your condescending tone) were never exposed to any of this information because the media he was drank were in on the "get Trump" bandwagon the whole time.. evidence be damned.
You obviously don’t have a clue about him then. His own podcast is full on people outside the mainstream and from all political view points. Sam just finds that deceit is the number one threat to democracy and trump was personal deceit on top of professional deceit on top of commercial deceit on top of political deceit. There’s zero you could say to trump to change his mind.
The first line - intellectual honesty - so high and mighty and such lack of self awareness. Hypocrisy and smugness knows no bounds - Sam is the poster child for both. Thanks guys for providing the forum and asking the questions that leave no doubt as to his TDS and the lefts appetite to burn down very institution to achieve their goals.
This rambling, incoherent explanation for going against everything this country is founded on shows what happens when a great intellect is not grounded in morality and objective truth.
Well, to be fair to Sam, he does claim to be grounded in those two things. His entire career is based on attempting to articulate an objective morality. The issue is not his ostensible lack of morality or favor of objective truth, but his ego.
“Intellect is not wisdom.” “Some of the biggest cases of mistaken identity are among intellectuals who have trouble remembering that they are not God.” Dr. Thomas Sowell, a true genius.
The problem with intellectuals and other academically gifted people is that they think they are brilliant in all aspects of life and they think know better than everyone about everything: this is why they never develop and lack wisdom and self awareness.
OMG, that said it all for me. That and comparing Trump University to Hunters Laptop. Guess he missed the circulating videos of HUNTER SMOKING CRACK GETTING a foot job in the bathtub.. so sickening. Such a criminal family. So many criminals on both sides of the Isle. DC is a swamp that will never be drained.
@@Zerradable It's good to know that power and maintaining it is more important to you than speaking and maintaining truth. The truth isn't always comfortable, but to completely to deny it is pathetic. You have let your hatred of Trump literally inhibit your ability to think critically, as exhibited by your ridiculous comment. -Sincerely, Someone who never supported Trump
Still a fan (because intellectual honesty doesn’t require you defenestrate someone because they made a point you disagree with. It seems irrational the ppl who are like “I used to like, respect, value Sam Harris for his contributions BUT NOW😤 I won’t listen to anything else he has to say bc of this SINGULAR interview😂 why is nuance so hard for the human brain?? Why can’t it arrive at I STILL value all those things previous contributed but on this point is an example of consequentialist thinking in error. Nuanced thinking of this sort is how you inoculate against cancel culture…it’s okay to say I agree with someone 80% of the time and there are topics where I VEHEMENTLY disagree..that’s how I feel about Ben Shapiro although I haven’t checked my percentage spread in a while 😅 when did things get so all or nothing?
"why is nuance so hard for the human brain??" That's a very good question. So good in fact that I Googled it and found the following. Nuanced thinking often requires openness, empathy, and the ability to critically analyze complex information, which can be demanding for some individuals. Because they don't think for themselves they don't learn how to see multiple facets of a situation. People hate nuance because its hard to understand. It makes things uncertain. You can't neatly organize nuanced ideas and you can't easily categorize people when their beliefs are nuanced. This gets frustrating for simple minds. That said, not everyone hates nuance. Some love the complexity and enjoy the finesse required to navigate the subtle details of people, ideas, or art. "when did things get so all or nothing?" Concurrently with the tendency to not engage in conceptual or analytical thinking, as the modern education system, the media and society in general don't encourage it, hence it's a race to the bottom with everyone becoming progressively more stupid.
The lack of introspection Sam has is truly incredible. Imagine if Don Jr had a job on the board of a Ukranian gas company and there were leaked emails about cash "for the big guy" lol. Sam would have to start a new podcast series of 12 episodes to cover it.
I was not sure about posting on this video but I have a genuine question. Firstly, I am no fan of President Trump and admit he can be brash, divisive, controversial etc. However, what exactly did he do wrong during his time in office? Trump did not start any wars, the US economy was strong and providing opportunity to many, he was trying to get a grip on illegal immigration, he promoted American self reliance on energy and no doubt many other things. Was Donald likable? Probably not and his use of Twitter was very questionable. I am not sure any of this is reason to circumvent democracy. As for the Biden administration, it is far too early to see how history will remember his presidency. America has a buckling economy, a proxy war in Ukraine, 40 year highs in inflation, tensions with China over Taiwan, an even more divided nation. Is this really a better situation? Playing Devil’s Advocate…
Precisely! Asking a leftist what Trump has actually done so wrong is an excersize in futility. The best they can come up with is 'awful tweets'. Just the same with asking them to define a woman. No coherent answers.
I don't think I've ever seen him less coherent and articulate. The cognitive dissonance is really gumming up his synapses. It's kind of astounding how feeble he is now, having not listened to him for a few years. He used to be so persuasive and clever that even on issues where I fundamentally disagreed with his stance, he would really make me rethink and struggle with those issues. He sounds like a confused doddering old man now.
The take on Hunter Biden and the dead kids was not even his worst take. That dubious honor belongs to his.....explanation...of why all the wokeness intensified right as Christianity collapsed in the west. It was the most meandering, poorly thought out, dear in the headlights answer i have ever heard him give.
This is how the vast majority of activists think and view themselves, and honestly, it's refreshing to hear at least one of these utterly immoral pieces of excrement say the quiet part out loud for once.
@@pdcdesign9632 Yes, the adult guest who openly advocates for subverting democracy because Trump was an existential threat...despite 4 years proving the contrary. The American system worked, he was held in check. But we'll openly conspire to suppress information about corruption in his political opponent because the plebs might not vote the way I want.
Marcus Aurelius said” the noblest kind of retribution is not to become like your enemy” The ends do not justified the means, otherwise you become as immoral if not worse than the person you’re criticising.
…back for more. Sam Harris claimed that Trump’s first term was “bad” and a second Trump term would be “worse”. I am a simple man, not a famous writer and intelectual. The Trump economy was very good for me and millions of middle class Americans and sans Covid, there is every reason to believe that a second Trump term would have been just as good. Instead, we are mired in the worst economy in the United Sates since Jimmy Carter’s. I am probably going to have to work an extra five years at minimum because Sam Harris and people like him were scared. He and the people like him have subjected us all to a fate worse than scary Tweets and now this cabal, because it is NOT a normal administration (if you believe Biden is the actual President then you haven’t seen so much as one of his public appearances) . Record inflation, spikes in crime, impossible to find housing , lingering supply chain problems, etc. Things are not going well under this administration and they are getting worse. People are struggling and all because they were scared of his Tweets.
Spot on. I'm not American but I don't get how anyone still can pretend that Biden was better than Trump in any way (or in fact that Trump was bad to begin with)... You forgot to mention the botched Afghanistan withdrawal that cost 13 Marines and hundreds of locals their life and left billions worth of war machinery to the Taliban. Or the fact that we have a war in Europe under Bidens watch. While Trump stood for global military disengagement and peace efforts (Abraham Accords, meeting Kim Yong Un and successfully deescalated on the Korean peninsula)..
The USA was objectively better off under Trump than it is under Biden. The world was better off with Trump calling the shots. Biden has been a disaster. I don’t know what Harris is talking about. For someone who claims to value reason and logic, he doesn’t seem to care much about numbers and statistics, or objective reality.
Sam doesn't care about any of this. He's too rich to care about the cost of groceries or oil. These are working class concerns that out of touch elitists like him do not understand. He and Bill Maher wanted an economic collapse to get rid of Trump. See how much they care about the actual sufferings of real people?
I agree that you're a simple man. You can thank Obama for the good economy, not that you will dream of doing any such thing. The economy is adding jobs at a record rate and inflation is going down. I respectfully suggest you pull your head out of your ass and look at the real situation, not the fever dreams they give you on Fox News.
But what you are failing to realize is that the 2 years BIden has been in office have little to nothing to do with the ebbs and flows of a global economy. You'd have a stronger argument levying your criticism against Trump, or Obama, or Bush, or better yet...Reagan's administration, which mortgaged all of our futures on asinine economic theory.
Sam Harris appears to be saying that people should be taken-out, by any means necessary, before they can ever run for political office, because he personally is the supreme judge of the Universe.
That is exactly what he is saying. And the hypocrisy of that coming from someone criticizing Islam, for saying it holds the ultimate truth, is through the roof.
Trump's election completely broke this man. He's never been the same. He can't even have a podcast talking about other things unless they're far removed from politics, because the second politics comes up, he's going on an anti-Trump rant. Sad what his personal hatred of Trump has done to him.
This is very true. I’ve listened to every episode, been a huge fan, been to his live shows, monetarily supported his podcast, etc. After Trump’s election, he just became almost unhinged when speaking about him. It’s very sad to see. Cancelled my monetary support of his podcast yesterday after watching this and giving my money where it makes sense.
@@danafoley4603 why do any of them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatever is causing it is visceral and utterly blinding to them..Trumps certainly a piece of work... what my old man would call a "character" whilst raising his eyebrow to show disapproval... but this raw hatred they have for him is completely out of proportion to his actions..
Woof... the self importance of this guy is painful. Totally hear loud and clear how he is fine with the levers of power doing anything to secure an outcome he agrees with.
@@fuckwit6081 at any cost. If you want to posit that his sole interest is justice for his abuse of powe,, then both you and he need to show me his demonstrated zeal at holding George Bush, Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, The NSA, The FBI, The CIA, and The CDC, (to list a few obvious players) accountable for their demonstrated abuse of power and corruption. As it stands all I see is someone willing to have power that is aligned with his politics and world view use that power in anyway conceivable to punish those he disagrees with. Hardly a well thought out or acceptable position.
I love the body language of the hosts staring at Sam explain how the ends justify the means with regards to getting rid of Trump. It's almost shocking to hear Sam articulate such nonsense.
Sam said absolutely nothing wrong. Twitter should have banned trump years ago for violating their TOS and letting him spread disinformation and threats to violence.
My impression of what Sam said was if Trump as a candidate to presidency and actual president can spout conspiracies and blatant false information to gain and maintain his position, then why can’t the same be used against him. To me that sounds like a more fair and democratic society. In an ideal world everything would be based off merit and truth, but that’s not how it works, even more so in politics
@@joebaker7788 Sam says Trump University is WORSE than the "plausiable" corruption of a sitting vice president and now president getting money from the CCP. That's besides the ch!7d p0rn, drug use, etc on his laptop AND the corruption with Ukraine.... you know... the country rhe US is sending BILLIONS of dollars and worth of military equipment to
He said the quiet part out loud... These intellectuals dont care about democracy or your right to choose who governs you and Sam is doing some GIANT backtracking
Of course they don't care about democracy, because it means the plebs would be making the big decisions rather than just the enlightened intellectual elite. The same elite who think their position entitles them to rule on the lesser people's behalf as they see fit. It's always a big shock for them to notice they really aren't superior to the layman or when the layman isn't as petty and stupid as they've convinced themselves to believe.
He is the perfect encapsulation of the arrogance and pomposity of these elite leftist. I have more respect for corrupt charlatans like Biden and Clinton that I do for this arrogant dickhead.
Reading 10 books a day and being that naïve means he is reading so fast that he absorbed none of the information. It defeats the entire purpose of reading...
What exactly makes trump unfit to serve as president? Notice he never has any examples just broad generalizations. I believe Sam has suffered the worst case of TDS I’ve ever seen.
So sad to watch the man who I used to consider one of the brightest intellectuals of our time first praises himself for his intellectual honesty, and then proves exactly the opposite throughout most of the interview. Awesome work by F&K to allow him to do that.
This is as Sam Harris himself described here his "Spectacular moment". Everyone sees him for what he is ...., A truly awful individual with an intolerant personality. He is everything he projects Trump to be.
Certainly not everything he “projects” Trump to be lol. Sure you can disagree with his take here and even think it is hypocritical, but you seem to making an intellectual and moral equivalency between Donald Trump and Sam Harris, which is just stupid honestly 😂
@Jimmy Googer. I can't equate Trump and Sam's morality? You're right. One is a self righteous narcissist with authoritarian views. The other is a self righteous narcissist that was called an authoritarian with no proof for 6 years.
Great interview. I love it when interviewers give time to the interviewee to complete a thought and not try to show how smart they are. Well done guys!
Konstantin is a master of this and not just in interviews. I saw him on a panel show with a climate activist. His master stroke was to simply let the other party talk and if they undo themselves so be it.
I never realized this because I haven't paid attention to Sam in probably 10 years, but he really says almost nothing when he speaks. He'll take 5 minutes to answer a simple question, constantly going on these little tangents to fluff up his sentences, but conveying very little real info. I had a feeling he was a pseudointellectual, but now I have confirmation. what a clown
What do you want, this is the trait of smug shallow so called intellectuals that overstretch what they know to appear deep and wise. You know, all of those farts the common people despises.
I thought the same thing. it is honestly to follow his explanation. They ask how he felt about twitter’s response to the Hunter Biden laptop and he starts his answer and pretty quickly says “let’s put that to the side”…and continues to go on about something but not the laptop. It was like he knew that he couldn’t explain his reasoning in an intellectual way so he didn’t want to touch it.
Yeah, when people don't understand what a person is saying, they are likely to claim that the speaker "isn't saying anything." It's better than admitting to any intellectual deficiencies.
I’ve been a paying subscriber of Sams for years and cancelled my subscription after this interview. So disappointing. Such an intelligent guy that has made a living pointing out how ideology poisons ones thinking and somehow he has fallen victim to the very thing he warns about. I don’t care if he is anti trump, but he is now in defence of the very machinery that has lied about and smeared him in the past, because now it’s destroying his political enemies.
Too many people have inflated this guys ego for years by telling him how smart he is. He's undeniably smart on some topics, but has pretty severe personal biases that allow him to sit there and contradict himself like this. It's actually hard to watch someone being so smug in their delusions of grandeur and cognitive dissonance.
@@racheljames7 you don't get a PhD in neuroscience by being a half wit. Unfortunately intelligence does not protect you against being emotional or irrational. Basically being human.
Is Sam seriously this intellectually blind to his own ideas? I am genuinely jaw dropped listening to him stumble through answering these questions about Trump v Twitter.
He's trying to manufacture consent among the people on the behalf of the managerial class (the current order), to which he belongs. They are existentially threatened by Trump and the plebs (their purported service unit, as it were). He's also not very good at it lol. Trump may be a lot of things but as soulless as the current order, that he is not. Go home. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rVkfarSZvCw.html
Yes, he is. I was an ardent supporter and fan of his for many years, but during the Trump years, his Twitter capture started to shine through. About a year ago he did a podcast explaining why he personally contacted Jack Dorsey to have Trump removed. This was shocking behavior from a one time personal hero. It was when he started raving about NFTs that I turned off the podcast and desubscribed from it and his meditation app. It hurts me to know how low Twitter and ego have dragged this once great man.
This was remarkable . Sam Harris is no where near as smart as he has convinced the world he is. I have just watched his reputation as a great thinker disintegrate before my eyes. Well done Fransis and Konstantin for managing to stay on your seat and listen to this tripe . 👏
You are totally wrong about Sam. He's the one calm, well reasoned voice among many inconsistent screamers. And I don't believe all his opinions are true, but he at least tries to use consistent logic.
Sam Harris is very intelligent, but if you have never read Intellectuals & Society by Thomas Sowell I highly recommend it. Some of the most disastrous events in human history have been committed by people like Harris.
TDS really affects clear thinking. I know because I had it for about 6 months. The fact that a dummy like me could see though it and a "genius" like Sam is completely lost in the brain rot is just another little red pill to nibble on. Sam is completely lost at this point.
How can anyone accept this man's level of "Literally Joe Biden could have done ANYTHING and it wouldn't be worse than Trump" and still consider him a logical, non-corrupted thinker in the slightest? Sam Harris has sold his soul.
@@darlenes5406 I think they know how delicate little Harris is. They were like ants helping a peony bloom to open. We have the rest of Sam Harris' life for him to be challenged on his assholery. We will be entertained!
I followed Sam for years and respected him. It is today that my opinion of him has changed. He and his line of thought is literally part of the problem and the reason why this country has had such a HUGE moral decline.
Keep in mind the neoconservatives have the same mindset. Both the modern left and right advocate lying and misrepresenting the truth. America is doomed unless enough people decide that the truth is important.
@@RenlangRen I see republicans are easily able to have a conversation whereas the left (any left) do not know how to converse. If one side refuses to have a conversation it's all for nothing. I left the democrats. They supported my thoughts but gave no reasons. I was just a sucker....
Sam isn't a problem, there's a dozen more ppl like him willing to take his spot. The problem is people got a taste of progressiveness, and they completely forgot about the ground they were standing on, and they just keep pushing the boundaries, when they need to take a step back, and remember what got us here in this advanced society. It's a corrupt version of progressiveness. Destroy the idea, not the person.
Well the snarky Atheist will always shift over to the next figurehead, without ever having to acknowledge that they were publicly wrong about something. Reminds me of Catholics who protected abusive priests.
@@TOUGHEYES I can't speak for your experience, of course, but in America the % of pedophiles in public schools is greater than the percentage in the Church. On the merits, you're right, The Catholic Church owns a number of monasteries on rocks sticking out of the North Sea and could have put all the pedo priests in those... but literally nobody understood that these guys can't get better at the time.
Harris's biggest issue is arrogance. He is terrified of being wrong, (so wrong) on any given issue. His mind will go into a pretzel before accepting he was incorrect. You can tell everything about him from that "someone is wrong on the internet" meme. He has become a laughing stock.
And being that unable to admitting being wrong is exactly the opposite of intellectual honesty. Which makes his opening statements even more laughable.
I feel like I’m watching one of those police interrogation videos where the suspect is so confidently stupid that he thinks his confession will impress the detectives.
I felt like I was watching a documentary where they wanted to give a living example of "elitism" and "trump derangement syndrome" trapped in one man's formerly sane mind.
The worlds smartest reeetard. It was one of the most petty and moronic takes from someone who’s supposed to be an intellectual and deep thinker. His answers were that of children, like he never gave a second of thought to any position he stands on. Outstandingly unimpressive
Quite the opposite, a neuroscientist who recognises a dangerous psychopath has manipulated cult followers into giving him power. He's exactly right. Nothing to do with being left either btw. This is a common opinion among rational people in the middle ground and on the right. He has a cluster B personality disorder and should be nowhere near power. Anyone who understands personality disorders can see it so clearly.
I hope Sam sees this interview in 5 years and realizes how uninformed he sounds in respect to the accomplishments of the first term and the absolutely Goebbles-esque reality warping, gaslighting efforts by 90% of the media
Sam’s case of TDS and arrogance led him to believe that his arguments were sound and that people would be on his side. He does not even see the blatant hypocrisy and authoritarian tendencies he now portrays. Thank you guys for letting him expose himself.
@@darlenegriffith6186 listen sweet cheeks. I’m sure that made sense when you wrote it, but you seem to either have a misunderstanding of the word ironic or how to use it. Either way, I’ll pray for you. #Trump2024
@@SvensktTroll Harris believes that private companies have the right to run their companies as they choose and enforce their terms of service. Trump started truth social as a new platform. He had every right to do so. In fact, he can do the hard work of building up his social network just like Twitter. There's no one being oppressed here and no one being silenced. It's just how capitalism works.
Having intelligence is like having a lot of horse power in a car but if your heading in the wrong direction. You will be going a lot quicker the wrong way 🤣
Francis & Konstantin: Sam, isn't it hypocritical to support undermining democracy in the name of preserving democracy? Sam: No, because the orange man is bad! 😡
He agrees with his policies, but thinks he is unfit for office. 🤣 There is an old Russian anecdote stereotyping Georgians and this sort of logic. Konstantin probably knows it and could cite to Sam with Georgian accent: - Givy (a common Georgian male name), do you like tomato? - Eating them? Yes. Otherwise, not much.
This guy is utterly psychotic. I’ve never held against Harris being born into hundreds of millions of dollars, thus allowing him to engage in utter idolatry and frivolity and self serving nonsense with no fear of starving. That was a terrible mistake on my part.
You are not alone... it's like he microwaved his head but somehow retained that pompous tone and manner of speaking.. he sounds soooo high on hearing his own voice.. the introduction they gave didn't help, however it may have been strategic in order to lower his guard completely.. I like how the hosts talk very little, do not lead and just let their guests go on about themselves
It's hilarious? Like, what, you're literally laughing? What's actually laughable is I'd bet you really believe you can find an incongruity in this interview with any current day info. Go on, Hemmingway, explain away. This outta be good 😏
Imagine 15 years ago at the height of the 'Four Horseman of Atheism' imagining that *Donald Trump* would be the one to break one of those seemingly great men. Make them knock themselves of their own rational and ethical pedestal through sheer unhinged hatred and self-delusion.
I was never a fan of Trump (can't stand blowhards), but he's done a tremendous service to people everywhere. His ability to trigger the dormant authoritarians in our midst may be the thing that ultimately saves us all. What an amazing time to be alive
Christopher Hitchens was the greatest of them because he could actually respect his opponent. I'm reminded of his friendship with Doug Wilson in the movie "Collision".
I am not surprised because I saw it coming years ago, in his spat with Noam Chomsky. At the time, instead of TDS, his problem was that he had an abiding religious faith in the benevolent intentions of the US military empire. He just couldn't, and wouldn't, wrap his planet-sized brain around the idea that the US military might have a wanton disregard for the human life, and that those who control the military might have less than beautiful intentions for the world.
@@Robespierres_Ghost I saw this side of him many years ago. In a podcast he berated Douglas Murray for going on a different podcast as the podcaster had also interviewed someone who's views Sam objected to.
@@djknox2 I don't think he's ever met Donald Trump. Trump literally can't have broken his brain. He broke his own. Exactly what role Trump as an abstract archetype played in that, is hard to say. But Trump the actual human being didn't do anything to SH's brain.
This was so eye opening. I had not realized how authoritarian a rational person like Sam Harris has become. I would have also asked "you talk about all this destruction and danger that Trump caused with his first term, can you give me some examples?" His absolute indifference for "anyone else" to have the reigns of power regardless of their corruption also shows how superficial his understanding is of alternatives.
Sam is getting so much hate in the comments I feel compelled to say that I admire his honesty and clear explanation of his position. I agree with his characterization of Trump, and whether his take on what should be done about it is correct or not is a matter of opinion. Disagreeing with some of his opinions does not completely invalidate the man forever after.
I realised last year when he did a podcast on vaccinations and claimed any of his peers that had any critique or disagreement with the vaccine and its roll out was either psychotic, schizophrenic or somehow mentally ill. That characterisation of people who disagreed with him was chilling to me.
looks like orange man was the revealing light, not only showed the corruption of government and media but also revealed how some of our "Great thinkers" are actually easily susceptible to cult indoctrination
Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris couldn't agree on the meaning of "truth". Listening to Harris speak candidly makes it apparent that he was the wrong person to discuss truth with. I don't think he grasps truth or reality. Triggernometry let him reveal himself, well done.
I've been hearing a lot about Sam Harris recently and was curious about his views. Thank you, FF & KK, for saving me the trouble of investigating further.
I’m surprised (and a little saddened) by how people can’t get beyond Sam’s Trump take. First of all, he opened by saying (and reiterated, later) that he wasn’t sure what the right call was. So he took the opposing side against the opinions of the interviewers. Did you really just want to hear agree? Do you need that validation? That being said, I think it is clear Sam probably would have suppressed the laptop story if it was his call, but even so, he’s such an excellent opponent of wokeism. Crying “TDS” is such a cop out and if you are doing it, you’re every bit as soft, simple and reactionary as the blue haired fatsos that cry “transphobia” and “fascist” at the people who disagree with them.
@@notsmine9191If you aren’t gonna give a response of substance you just show he is right. I completely agree with OP. If someone is gonna call it TDS, fine, but show why. Or is any criticism suddenly TDS? Such a cope.
Options on Sam Harris: 1. He is far more ruled by emotion than he wants to admit about himself; he is intellectually dishonest with himself and the public. 2. He is trolling us, because he's so much better and smarter than us. 3. His zealous judgment against Trump + supporters, without humble and honest self-reflection as to how he might be guilty of the very same things he castigates in such "deplorables", is on the level of hypocrisy that goes beyond laughable to pathetic and dangerous.
@@thegeneralist7527 what makes you say that "Peterson walked out on Harris?" Dr. Peterson had Sam on his show a few mo the ago for another conversation.
@@SamuelSwaggerStep He was a liar. Liz Cheney isn't a Christian... A theocrat isn't a Christian... A woke person isn't a Christian... Just like an only-Trumper isn't a Christian... Christians don't believe in theocracy. We believe let Caesar's be Caesar's... I'm so tired of atheists thinking they understand everything and everyone else are stupid. He's more religious than he'll even admit. In his practices, in his work, his meditations,.etc.
@@aethelwulfwarlord1475 Unfortunately this seems to be the case. I use to have so much respect for Sam, but the way he just degenerated over Trump.. Man that shows some real moral deficiency imo.
What was criminal about the laptop was it’s concealment by the MSM. Biden would definitely have lost the 2020 election had the laptop story come out as it should have done.
When he was blathering on about the ideal social media and he suggested moderation would be possible with 'perfect(ed) AI' I couldn't help but snort. He actually approves of fighting potential corruption with actual corruption. Isn't that fighting the flammable with fire?
So Sam is basically saying, that everything is on the table, if it means it will prevent Trump getting elected again. This is scary thinking, from such an intelligent man. This thinking sets a dangerous precedent, and who gets to tip the scales. Wow Sam.
Everything? I understood him to say a private company can remove his abilty to destroy private individuals, override the democratic process to the point of crying foul about election results and even empoering a cadre of people prepared to actually use force to take over government buildings. It is a bitter pill to do this as I am a proponent of free speech but it does have its limits as I say, and they could be more even-handed with whom they do it, but the man did need reigning in as he did irreparable damage to Americas reputation around the world. He made toxic so many subjects also. He did some good, too, and I agreed with much of what he said as Sam also said ( though Trupm said it very poorly). I wont detract from that, but he was not and is not Presidential material.
@@emekaezeagu9853 You are free to disagree with him for your own reasons, but even his most ardent critics would say he was intelligent. T To suggest he is not, when he so obviously is, betrays something about your own attempts at reasoning.
@@bertrandrussell894 he may have intelligence but certainly not wisdom..one of the most boring podcasts I’ve ever listened to ….switched off several times and switching back on he was still monologuing about the same thing ..real verbal diarrhoea
"They're just talking to themselves. And claiming they know things they don't know." And the rest of that rant. Lmao the irony. Someone hold a mirror to this man!
Its so sad that I had been believing that Sam is stupid about all of this. The more things I find out about Trump, and after listening to the full speech by Trump on January 6th - its quite clear to me that Sam is the only one who's been able to stay sane all along. It's almost unbelievable how he stayed sane all long. Its so similar to the situation where everyone even the greatest scientists could not understand the harm they were doing, and Einstein just saw it and called them out on their bullshit and yet they continued.
@@mogznwaz MAGA is like Jonestown. Whatever you tell them, they will believe it. If someone's drinking the Kool Aid, it's them. Sam is right, and I say this as someone who liked trump between 2016-2020
I would like to thank sam Harris for his honesty here. He went full send here, and proved just how deep tds goes with these people. It was hot take after hot take, and just kept getting more ridiculous.
This wasn't honesty. We know that he wasn't trying to be honest but rather just slipped on a banana peel on camera. We know because he has tried to pretend that he never meant exactly what he just admitted in front of millions of people, that evil is justified when he side does it.
I admired Harris until this interview. He is officially off of my list of respected intellectuals. I'll never understand how he can't see that Trump is a symptom, not a cause. You really have to have your emotional blinders on to miss that. Its also very apparent in his demeanor that he has acquired a bit of arrogance over the years. Trump represents the middle America that watched their economic opportunities disappear while they sent their kids to die overseas in the war on terror. The Bretton woods world order is not absolute nor is it sustainable.
It's both. And I think Yang would agree. Without trump Jan 6th would have never happened, no shot. And you guys are honestly kind of being silly. Because standing against Trump right now is standing against the force behind him, which I have no problem calling fascism.
I think that's extremely astute observation about Trump. He absolutely is a symptom of a problem that continues to dog Western Society. I don't know if you're referring to the same issues that are in mind to me but I think people are just so sick of political correctness and now this woke crap Donald Trump has been a breath of fresh air. On the other hand I tend to agree wholeheartedly with Sam's assessment of Donald Trump. I think he has been consistent in his view of the man.
@@darksu6947 I couldn’t agree more that hypocrisy is one of the biggest sins. I would love to sit down with him and listen to him explain to me how Trump was a literal existential threat worthy of any and all tactics and that someone who literally murdered children would be better than him, and that his preference would be that the person who took over for him be a Democrat who is probably Woke, which he also admits is terrible and has taken over our education system, the corporate world, big tech, and the media. Bad takes are one thing, but the hypocrisy comes in when he talks about the importance of objective reasoning. I would love to sit down with him and have him steelman why someone would’ve thought that Trump would’ve made a good president, beyond just using it as a protest vote to blow the whole system up. You simply can’t champion gaslighting and authoritarianism for getting him out of office, and with talk about how great calm objective reasoning is and also how only literal ballot stuffing would count as election tampering.
So far all I've learned about Sam Harris is that he believes in democracy, just as long as people vote the way his incredible ego thinks they should. What an unhinged individual. He definitely improved X the day he deleted his account.
I'm an Australian who rents his spare room on airbnb. I recently had a young Californian woman stay with me who on arrival said she didn't want to talk about politics except to assure me she was "on the side of good and not evil". Later during her stay she expressed incredulity that anyone would think their neighbours would commit election fraud. When you define your opponents as "evil" doesn't anything become justifiable to stop them?
When you have no foundation for where your morality comes from, you can conveniently dismiss it in favor of "my truth" or "I know best because I said so".
Sam never answering a question is one of my favorite past times. He only gets better by the day. How did I miss this classic? Oh, it said Sam Harris in the title.
Thank you for exposing Sam Harris as a complete and utter monster who would embrace totalitarianism in any form...as long as he agreed with the tyrants. I would say this man deserves no attention, but actually I appreciate the attention so he can tell everyone how totally depraved he is.
Yes totalitarianism, demanding that the government not dictate what private companies do. Trump is 100% a cult. You can’t even think through the most basic thought to it’s logical conclusion
LOL an utter monster who would embrace totalitarianism in any form. Oh I love the internet. I bet you had this written down before you even saw the interview. So tell me, which segment of the interview did Sam ever mention he disagreed with anyone or had a bad opinion because he disagreed with anything that was said? Go on. Or did he trigger you because you don't agree with him?
@@unholylemonpledge9730 one aspect of totalitarianism would be when websites have an ever changing terms of service that are compliant to a government.
You know it's gonna be a good interview when Konstantin says "that's a good answer, but that doesnt quite answer my question", at the very first question lol. I love these guys, saw them on Rogan, just loved their personality on the show. And seeing their show they're just great interviewers, it's kinda like the closest thing we have to good journalism rn, just not taking a biased approach, letting someone talk and if they slip up on their own accord that's on the interviewee not the interviewer. (Its not investigative reporting, but it's just taking an unbiased approach to literally everyone, and that's something that's been lacking alot today).
In the second half, I think it comes off quite openly that Harris can't reflect on his own statements, and how when he brings up Black Lives Matter, he's isn't critical of the religiosity of it at all. He doesn't even have the self awareness to be critical of its founder robbing millions to fund her mansions.
