They have been around for a little while as software but recently switched to a full DAW, I've been meaning to give it a try and keeping an eye on them, it's really cool stuff.
It's good that you admit that you don't know much about it and still learning. I think we get complacent in how we make music and don't explore other ways to make it.
Stem separation is taking crate digging to a new level, now it's on the MPC, i seen Jermaine Dupri using it on IG, i know the OG's are going crazy can't wait to hear what they cooking up.
It's only on the software now,I'm hoping they don't delay putting it on the stand alone,because this free up more producing options,which is a headache for the copyright police 😂
as an older artist producer and sample based lover this is good but also scary. Music making has changed so much from our days of hardware sampling to now this. Is it time to hang up my hat
@davidowen449 Well, you've only just found out about this but it's existed in plugins and standalone software for around 6 years and you didn't hang up your hat because you didn't know.
I've been using the serato sample stem separation and it works well for the most part, sometimes there is random noise and artifacts that ruin the quality but this Rip-X has amazing stem quality. Also the fact that it can separate the drums and allow you to move each percussion instrument is pretty F*****g insane.
You both don't realise how old all this is. Prior to DAWs* plural, no apostrophe saying DAW is, this has existed in plugins and standalone software for around 6 years. And Logic has been able to do audio to MIDI for over 23 years.
So far it seems like RIPX is better with stem separation than FL Studio's version is! That makes me happy and sad at the same time since I'm married to FL Studio!
@@DJPain1 Laugh all you like youll be checking for watermarks in your one shots next wouldnt laugh to hard youll probably find skid marks too seizure can get messy you know
Sorry it's terrible the work flow the bugs the hidden stuff is so uninitiative come back in 12 months when the redesign its UI and work flow and fix the major bugs I was very disappointed try the trial you'll see their work flow where things are hidden unless you hover over them is getting a bashing from users
When i first started using Reason back n in 2002-03 i used to ALWAYS wish for something like this because I'd come across dope samples with even doper things happening in the background and couldnt pull it out. I grew frustrated at times because i didnt want the main parts of certain samples, i wanted that crazy shyt u didnt know was playing the whole time in the background. i lost inspiration for alot of beats because of that. Im glad we have it now but like you said, imagine if we had this when we was 20 ! (that was 23 years ago for me Lol)
Whoa this is next level, Im imagining being able to create a mid 90s DJ U-NEEK drum kit, and being able to get Timbalands sonics.. This is wild! thanks for the video
I've been messing around with the trial version for about a week. The technology it's packing is pretty damn impressive. As a DAW it's not for me - just not designed for the type of music I make and I think the interface/workflow has a lot of room for improvement when it comes to creating a full track. I really respect and appreciate that they're challenging what a DAW is supposed to look like and offering such a fresh and unique alternative though. We need more of that in music production software/technology in general. Also really appreciate that they're approaching AI as a tool to empower _human_ creativity rather than replace it.
No gonna lie bro, gift and the curse! No producers are safe. Technology is making things easier and faster but also really taking away the originality of music. Because if people can steal drums, melodies, etc. they will. Everyone gonna have all the same drums sound etc. 🤦🏾♂️
I use FL and my most recent update added the same stem separation feature. It will probaby be added to most major DAWs fairly quickly. And you're right: it's definitely a game changer!
@miketolbert94 You don't have to use both of them to know FL separates just the Drums, Bass, Instruments, and Vocals, same as Serato Studio/Sample. Whereas Rip X separates the Drums, Percussion, Strings, Guitars, Pianos, Vocals, etc. But since you asked, yes, I've used them both and own them both. IMHO, Rip X is better.
The stem separation software is getting so much better these days, but I still rarely bother because most the time there are still unwanted artifacts left behind. Especially if the instrumental that you're separating has more than just a few sounds. Now if it's just a piano, with drums, and a vocal track then it does a great job, but let's be honest.. MOST SONGS are not just a few tracks. I've always wanted a clean instrumental of Master P's song "Let's Get Em" and as soon as FL Studio released their stem separation update, I rushed to download that song, pulled it into FL Studio, did the stem separation and was not pleased at all! There were way too many unwanted artifacts and it sounded pretty trashy! However, give it another 5 years or so and it should be even more rock solid!
I was so excited to try it out yeah! I just ripped it from RU-vid and threw it in FL Studio. However.. I've done this with several wav files and high quality ones and the artifacts still remain in quite a bit of them. Like Pain said.. there are some things I could do to clean it up a bit.. but yeah.. I think in another 5 to 10 years there will finally be one that is perfect that won't have the clicky pops/artifacts left behind when separating them. Again.. this tool works perfectly when a sample has limited instruments in it. But trying to do it with a song or sample that has 10+ things or more going on at once and it's a nightmare@@coldskoolbeatz
@@Mista808The thing is, it's already existed for 6 years and the reason it hasn't progressed to zero artifacts is because it never will be perfect! It's dependent on the programme material as you said. Another 5 years is irrelevant!
If these features were native to a daw, which they are to this one, it’s ideal. I switch from daw to daw and use 3rd party vsts for my vocal production atm as I think most producers do
I've been using Rip-X for quite a while, but never used it as a DAW. I knew that it was capable of making beats. I mostly use it to create stems for remixing purposes. I use Abelton Live 11 Suite mainly. I'm just like you. I only scratched the surface of this DAW. You've inspired me to go in and dig deeper into this software and get a little more out of my investment. Thank you for the inspiration and this video.
This is awesome news! I've followed the RipX platform for quite a while and this presentation has pushed me over the edge to make a purchase- SOON! Thanks so much for this information!!!
Holy crap. That's all I can say. BTW looking into it now... trying to find the difference between regular and pro licenses, but not seeing it right away... or maybe I missed it
this look terrible and the stem separation tool SUCKS on all platforms. FL STUDIO came out with one and even that shit is terrible. RAPES the audio quality
Thanks DJ Pain! The little that u showed conceptionally is mind blow, especially if you're ripping low quality MP3s and the sound reproduction is improved, that's crazy?. I'm not into sampling but for resampling my own work and flipping it to get another spin, sounds great. Appreciate ya!
I care more for the feel of my beats then a few artifacts bc of stem separation 🎉 Works wonders for me, mask artifacts with reverb and filters. In the 90's it was static but who cared 😂
@@thekeysman6760 record noise/static from sampling from vinyl. I never minded a bit of static noise in my samples. Nowadays i dont mind an artifact from stem-separation, that was my point.
I just found your channel, and I’m enjoying your content. To me, it doesn’t matter how advanced technology is, if you don’t have ear for music, or have an understanding of bar structure, your music will be trash. So, my hope is that the up and coming producers or beat makers have extensively studied music. And I don’t mean scholastically, but listening
melodyne dna made this possible a decade plus ago. And vdj is on its 2nd version of stem seperation. I use it so i can hum a melody and turn it to midi as I can’t play an instrument but I have ideas
Nothing new under the sun. There is wave to MIDI program made in the mid 2000s you can load music in it. Convert it into separate tracks according to its tone as in drums, bass, piano etc. load to any daw or hardware sequencer. I took a Janet Jackson song and load into my rm1x and MIDI chopped it into section and converted to patterns. From there able to change individual instruments on the fly.
@@brianmi40A G-xer here been stemming way before rip x was ever thought of. Made stems from MIDI files with hardware sequencers. Voice to MIDI using a microphone and a Yamaha ry8 drum machine by singing notes and record it into a Yamaha arranger keyboard. Nothing new under the sun
I like that you can pull a note out of a sample, like if there is a phrase that is C major, you could rip all the sonics from everything that E note frequency of that chord.
TOOOOOOO Many people looking to make music without making music. Yo ! maybe you can steal music this way ... or this way lol . Wow , i love the way you use that computer lol . Total Clown Culture
RipX is nice for sampling and processing samples but I only it for studying other people’s musical arrangements. The midi information is helpful for teaching composition. There is a song you like, you can tear it apart and find out how it’s made.
@@hxllabeats9641 Melodyne does NOT do stem separation. I should know, I own the top of the line Melodyne Studio. Melodyne only alters pitch and formant and can be used to create MIDI from the pitches recognized, but does NOT separate audio into stems.
i use rips all the time .This idea that it is all low quality is funny as i started dj ing with vinyl and made mixes to tape and then cd from vinyl.Even average digital rips are a major step up from that as compression tech has made major leaps forward as well as having decent sound gear and production software.
Edison in fl studio was converting samples to midi Ages ago already. Not to mention that you can blur whole samples in there and basically make them unrecognisable.
i started with ripx but boy was it buggy .When it worked it was great and i mainly used it for stems which were very good and Serato at first did not have it then the only had it on their Dj software but when it went into Studio it was good enough to drop Rip x which was driving me nuts as it was for me sometimes not very easy to use.There was often a problem so i went to Studio.On Studio the workflow is fast and reliable so thats the one for me but i will keep an eye on Rip as it was a bit of a Pioneer in its early days.
We're sorry to hear you found it was buggy - we're always updating the product, so please try again with the latest version, or contact our support team who are always happy to help and quick to respond :)
I use for stems and changing a few things around, but the new feature i use it for now is learning guitar parts. where you can slow down the speed but not the pitch, plus it shows you the keys as well. you just need to transfer them to the keys of the guitar.
Calling this a DAW seems more than a bit of a stretch. It's more like an AI infused Soundforge audio editor. Can't see paying for a tool so limited to AI functionality when literally every DAW publisher is hard at work adding AI to their DAWs. Even Tracktion Waveform has stem separation these days.
So this! Looks more intuitive than Melodyne, iZotope & others. Looks to me like it’s revolutionizing the game on sample editing. It could soon become a must-have. Thanks for the vid!
Look into Ultimate Vocal Remover 5 too... It's not a DAW, but for ripping vox, drums, bass and even wind instruments, it works very well... It gives you lots of options for "ripping" also...
1:37 - Found out someone sampled his music, has his legal team on it, will probably sue them for stealing. Then proceeds to instruct you on how to steal samples. Seems legit. 👍😆
There are so many options.. you can isolate notes and use the built in keyboard to watch the notes they are playing.. Basically , allowing you to replay the entire sample ..
How does it handle more complex drum rhythms? I do most of my vocal and instrument ripping in melodyne, just rip a bit of it and tune it and even export the midi to whack directly into Pro Tools to pop onto a different instrument, but I'm always on the look out for something that can extract good midi data from complex drum patterns.
I got RipX last summer and it’s fuc*in incredible! You can split a sample down to the hi hats. There’s still room for improvement on the amount of time it takes for longer samples and there’s some artifacts in certain stems, kinda like an old mp3 file but not as bad, just takes some eq, but overall it’s dope, wish I had something like this 20 years ago.
@@DJPain1 I’m not sure if it’ll change copyright law but do I think artist and copyright lawyers will be pay closer attention to new music for that piano riff or bass line, so probably more claims. I do think more producers will start sampling with this kind of software tho so that’ll be interesting.
@@DJPain1 could there be some kind of digital fingerprint to each mb of any part of an original composition? Kinda everything that you yourself generate can have its own DNA tag??
DNA digital notification alert Surely the way we producers should be using AI is in helping us not only in our education but also in protecting the compositions that we ourselves create. No?
Hey Pushinkeys, what is their policy on updates if you don't mind me asking? Do they freely update the software or is it a thing like Soundforge, where they just give you discounts on newer versions???
I still have no idea how this is even possible, this is what you would dream of in the 90s when things started happening with daws etc. But to actually have it today is out of this world. How can any software detect every little frequency and split it apart like atoms????
I wish you were able to have more control over the audio to midi. If it allowed you to draw over the notes you wanted to export like Zplane's Decoda it would work so much better. Right now with the low quality RU-vid audio it grabs too many artifacts.
You can draw over them- you can smoothly correct the notes, delete the noisy artifacts, etc. I’ll make a video showing those features, but other videos have covered this
@@DJPain1 I just wish you can draw over the notes you want to export without having to delete the artifacts. I have emailed Ripx and asked for this feature but I think they tried to improve it in a different way.
being someone who plays irl and on midi, “musician” was a term we came up with to categorize ppl who make or play music, terms aint real bro. It can mean whatever I want it to be, so from now and onward I declare musicians to be dudes who specifically center their beats around toilet water splashing, my definition wuld be just as valid as yours.
