Samsung HDR Tone Mapping Settings | Active or Static? 

Can you update the qn90a 2021 models to get this feature?

​@@Dmoney4183 technically yes. But they won't because then you wouldn't want this year's tv

@@lancealex382 thats so bs, 1700 dollar tv cant upgrade features lol

@@Dmoney4183 the qn90a is a great TV hope they fix the local dimming issues in gaming mode though. I used to hate how it dimmed small bright details on an otherwise dark screen

I agree with you Iceman

OMG Quantum is the worst!!

That dude is a joke.

Quantum is honest about everything that's why most people don't like him.

@@XxPeruvianGamersxX 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Great to hear your liking the A90K you got a really good price on it for sure!

I live it Active for HDR games and Static for movies. HDR in game mode tends to be somewhat dim so the Active option makes it birghter and better IMO

Static for everything. Active makes the highlights look worse.

Hi there - I also purchased a 85” Qn90C about a month ago - I’ve found that the general consumer reports recommended settings for this tv - free online - are pretty darn good, better for me than the rtings recommended settings. Also, we had to cut fios, way too much compression and pixelation - found youtube tv surprisingly much better pic quality, and then also using native apps for streaming regular or 4K content using youtube tv as the provider for very best picture quality - fire stick max 4k etc also compressed the video too much

LG is king of HGIG

Same

Same here as well. Have a 75QN90A and as much as I appreciate the pop of these QLED displays (and the better tone mapping appears to be a godsend), I've been honestly pretty unhappy with the motion performance of this large LCD panel. Motion on these larger sizes looks much more smeary than on 65 and below. So I'm waiting anxiously for some full reviews of the S95C

Gonna be interesting to see reviews on it all year long I can't wait to put it next to the S95B to see the difference running content that I am used to.

It's OLED so hard pass. Too dim for a good HDR experience, bad text quality due to WBGR pixel layout, and will get burn-in.

@@chiefjudge8456 QD-OLED gets pretty bright. At least for highlights. And it's RGB, no white pixel. Not sure about burn in though as the tech is still very new. I've been an LCD evangelist for years due to WOLEDs being too dim. But this year's QD-OLEDs really seem to be resolving that issue

I would be surprised if they do. Samsung doesn't usually do that. They only fix bugs and enhance sound and pic quality, but they wouldn't add any new feature.

Samsung makes every tv worse with more updates😂​@@ownerr8441

It should be this month in March

No specific date for QN95C yet I’m thinking later in the month. QN90C should be live in most sizes available now and some next week.

I am having the same issue. Were you able to change it?

@@footstepsandadventures yep. You need to play something with hdr content for it to activate. I played an hdr video off RU-vid and I could then access the settings, although it seems to automatically activate to Active when hdr content is detected. The hard bit was trying to figure out how to open the tv settings without stopping the content playing. To do this on my tv I held down the button with the 4 colors (where you can change tv channel by typing in the channel number) and then I could access the tv settings from there without the content stopping playing. Hope that helps!

No word on if older TVs will be updated with some of these improvements.

Static is going to be the creators intent, Active is more of a picture pop setting. Up to you which one you like better.

No sir, it is fine if you put HDR10+ on basic, I leave it on basic cuz Cyberpunk 2077 also support this format. Won't burn anything of the panel.

@@jorgec2824 thanks mate appreciate it

No indication of that yet

Tough call but I’ll say A95L as my early pick.

@@TechWithKG Oh ok. Sounds like a good bet KG. Its gotta be up there in the top 3. Im really looking forward to your views on the G3 and keep up the good work. Been following your videos with fomo and Brian for a long time and im kind of addicted lol!

KG just gt excited when I watched a video on the Hisense U8H..looks too good! Have you seen it? Recommend it? Thanks bud

KG watching this again...is there a way to turn tone mapping off?

You do the HDR setup after engaging Game HDR basic or advanced on Samsung. The game is “Wo Long” it’s a great game.

Gamma is really raised out of the box so adjusting that down really helped, I’m still not in love with the contrast in a few scenes where the backlight has to do a lot of work on the 43” but I imagine the 55” will be much improved. 43” and 50” sizes always get the short end of the stick from Samsung which I’ve talked about before. I’ll talk about all of this more in my upcoming review.

​@@TechWithKGany chance for 50qn90c to see a good talk stick update 😂🎉

Use Game HDR Basic in Game Mode Options, then put Color Space to Auto. Use Color Tone warm 1 or 2 for better Color accuracy. You can also turn the color down a little. Just play around with the settings until you're happy. :)

It remembers your last selection but if the tv gets a hard restart it will go to the numbers

While in the HDR calibration screen on XBox, hitting both triggers and bumpers at the same time will pull up a list of actual values to the right of the checker window. Hope this helps!

Likely not but never say never because last year they bright some game hub stuff to QN90A so it’s possible

I turn it off yes it’s always on by default out of the box

The source aka the content should always dictate the final output for best results. Turn on HDR from Windows and turn off all HDR tone mapping from in game. Set the Maximum Luminance for HDR in game at 1000 nits. I'll share accurate settings for your tv since it's panel is identical to s95b.

Choose either Movie or Filmmaker Mode. These two profiles are the most accurate on the TV. Apply the Same settings to Game Mode in SDR and HDR but turn off all tone mapping from you TV and the game. Set the maximum HDR luminance to 1000 nits and do not exceed it. SDR: Brightness: 34 Contrast: 45 Sharpness: 0 Color: 25 Tint: 0 Contrast Enhancer: 0 Color Balance: Warm2 Gamma: BT.1886 at 0 Color Space: Native Peak Brightness: Medium Native color space is only accurate under SDR. Auto under SDR is inaccurate. Peak brightness should be at medium for accuracy sake. The monitor should now be at 200nits. HDR: Brightness: 50 Contrast: 50 Sharpness: 0 Color: 25 Tint: 0 Contrast Enhancer: 0 Color Balance: Warm2 Gamma: ST.2084 at 0 Color Space: AUTO Peak Brightness: High

Everything in the video is filmed on 43 inch qn90c only feature that won’t is auto HDR remastering

​@@TechWithKG Oh, nice! How is the motion handling on the 43" version? Does it seem to be using the same panel as last year's QN90B? I'm looking at getting either the 43" or the 50". I have an OLED (A90K), but I really do miss the brightness of an LED tv.

QN90B 85 at that price is really good but it will get even cheaper in a few weeks if your targeting that wait. The new features are cool because it gives you flexibility but I’d say it depends on if you think you would use them. QN90C looks to be comparable to QN90B from early impressions. The word is QN95C will be the real big upgrade.

@@TechWithKG thank U, I can wait a few more weeks for sure! I just don't want to wait till the end of the year because I want a new tv before june unless it was for a significant upgrade but so far early reviews seem to show some improvements but nothing worth the wildly extra cost. I'll probably settle on the qn90b at 85" and then later this year I need a 2nd tv for gaming I'm thinking s95c in 55" when black friday sales hit

Same situation here, I'll be buying a QN90B as soon as the new 2023 Samsung models arrive. Should see more of a price drop on last years TV's when that happens, even a few hundred $ I don't really see the point of paying that much extra for the QN90C

@@albd4002 exactly! Especially when the qn90b 85" will probably be down to $2500 in just a few weeks so even the smaller sizes will become great bargains to. The only upgrade seems to be the qn95c but it lacks the one connect box that last years qn95b had anda little improved performance does not justify its outrageous price of $5,800!

@@dshawnspjute6305 Very true. The QN90B is an absolute beast. I'll put the money saved towards a Samsung soundbar. I'm still deciding on a 75 vs 85 inch, tough decision. It's around a $1,500.00 difference (AUD) between both sizes. Might have to wait another few years for 85 inch to become more affordable.

Same amount of zones, this my first year with the 43” version I’ll be checking out the 55 later this month.

@@TechWithKG quantam tv has 55 inch qn90c and in service menu he showed 500 dimming zones which are less than 720 zones from last year. Waiting for your verdict cause when it comes to mini led , I trust you more than other oled fanatics

@@lipiningole1381 Last year was more like 576 for the 55", 720 was for the 65".

Please review this television fast , quantam tv roasted this tv but I doubt he has correct settings

@@lipiningole1381 55" is not less its the same 504 is the same as last year's QN90B.

Thank you Rainer!

@@TechWithKG You're welcome! Nice video!

same as S95B’s last year

Usually around Late April and Early May. Memorial Day is a big date for TV drops usually.

I don’t think so I wasn’t aware the 8Ks did that I thought it just wasn’t easy to do. I’ll double check the qn90c and if the answer changes I’ll reply again.

I’d say 42 C2 it’s got a better stand too that you can tuck things under. 43 qn90c isn’t awful but viewing angles suffer so if you ever have to have it an angle or you move your head a bit you’ll notice. The only thing that might bother you with the C2 is sustained brightness at the max it can’t really do it full screen bright windows it will dim down.

For PC I would never use an OLED.......with static objects on all the time. That's why I bought the 43QN90B and it's been very good, viewing angles are bad (but fine if you're not fussy and only sit in the centre on your computer chair) but contrast is enhanced over the bigger models because it doesn't have the wide viewing angle layer and it's clearer too. I don't think there is better out there except maybe the Neo G7/8 but they are 32" curved display (with bad viewing angles) but have even more dimming zones and it can get brighter too but both have issues with getting a nice contrasty picture without too much shadow detail getting erased or brightness getting too high ruining your contrast. The 90B is much easier to get right I believe since all you need to do is make it less bright here and there. I'm not sure how to correct the shadow detail problem of the Neo G7/8 maybe if you raise brightness/black level, i'm not sure. Hope that helps, no other LCD TV will give you this kind of contrast and best of all no burn-in worry. Oh, the 43QN90C won't have any issues with getting nice contrast since it has a Static Tone Mapping option now, but I think you still need to adjust the mid brightness down a bit like KG said, it improves the picture even more which means great shadow detail and contrast (accuracy) with very little changing of the settings compared to the 43QN90B. Samsung really should update it to make it so you don't have to adjust any brightness settings to make it look it's best.

Others have reviewed ADS panels before and none of them looked bad like that seems kinda suspect to me. Keep in mind in my video above that is the 43" QN90C which is different its a VA panel, the 55” will be ADS by the looks of it my video isn't intended to showcase the TV or review the TV its just to talk about the new changes and features for these 2023 Samsung TVs not specific to this model. Edit: also make sure you google or look up the source on RU-vid.

I can see blooming when you scroll through the menus. Samsung and others are pushing the qdoled technology. Leds are taking a hit for it.

It has HDR tone mapping but not as an option to toggle in each mode instead it’s tied into the modes each mode has it’s own behavior movie and fmm act like “static” does on 2023 models “active” behavior can be found in standard, dynamic and game mode.

@@TechWithKG oh really. I had no idea. Thank you so much for that clarification. I have it on movie mode, so I guess I don't have to worry about it being active/on in that sense.

oh, is that what the issue is? I have a 7900 XTX and Game HDR is greyed out for me. The TV does dynamically switch if the game forces HDR suchas Horizon Zero Dawn, I imagine it's because it's a console port and brilliantly optimised port too. But games that rely on the moronic W11 settings for HDR... don't work and couldn't figure out why. I'm sure there is a work around to this because the driver is more than capable as Horizon Zero Dawn works without issues - when the game is running it shows as 'Freesync HDR' under HDR.

I believe the only TVs advertised with QMS is LG’s 2023 OLED TV. Not 100% certain though.

My exact question! Im playing gta 5 on ps5 and when its night in the game i cant see anything while snipping! Debating on turning on contrast enhance

You have to make sure your in an HDR source

@@TechWithKG Thanks! I guess none of he content on my Fire Cube is HDR? Very weird.

You have to be playing content in HDR and then you will see the option to switch from static to Active.

the menu changes according to the content its displaying. Just go to YT and put some "HDR test" video and youll see some more options These gaming options aren't available to me on my QN90C because my Xbox is the One S, not the more advanced Series X etc so i can't toggle some stuff either

You might have "Game HDR" toggled on you can only select genres when this is off.

@@TechWithKG thanks for the reply, finally figured that out! Do you recommend using with or without the game HDR on?

@@Treyconrad.verified Whatever you prefer really, I find game HDR advanced with a few tweaks to give the most pop if thats what your after

If you have the 77 inch S90C or CD you are guaranteed to have the Gen 2 panel of the S95C not B. If you have a 65 or55 inch then it's a lottery and you could have either the Gen 1 or 2 panel. The Gen 2 panel is Software restricted compared to the S95C.

Ok boomer

LMAO MiniLEDs constantly win TV shootouts don't they, ohh wait they never even make it into them do they.

better in some cases, worse in others. For example, i'm very sensible at blooming and at color/brightness shifting, even IPS have this issue. Bad text quality is in the eyes of the user, for me the text quality is good. I use a 42" LG C3 instead of a monitor, I use it for programing and i don't have any issue with how the text is displayed. Yes Mini LED is brighter but i prefer no blooming and no color shift but less luminosity instead.

Do you mean your own display for setting HDR in game consoles like I showed in the video?

@@TechWithKG yes, I've got a 2021 q60 85"

Wo Long

How that? 2023 are updated and better. I waited last year not to buy because a new the 2nd year QD-OLED updates would be better then 1st year QD-OLED.

​@@jeffmaynard6110 Not if you have a pre-updated model or the latest update which is great.

Nothing wrong with S95B other than the last update with game mode but it’s nothing that can’t be worked around. It’s still my favorite TV in my house.

@@TechWithKG are you talking about the ST gamma slider not working when game HDR HGIG setting is enabled? Or some other issue?

My s95b came with a bad motherboard and only last me 3 months 😢 i call samsung now they said is out of stock so they are upgrading me to a qn90c 75inch my s95b was a 65 so what you think is it a good deal what their giving me q90c is the 2023 model as well. I know pricing wise the q90c is alot more at 3200 when i just paid 1800 for the s95b 😅

Make sure you are watching or playing in HDR. You might be in SDR or intelligent mode is enabled maybe.

@@TechWithKG intelligent mode is off, how can i check if im watching in hdr? I cant see an option to turn it on, sorry this is my first oled hdr tv

@@oinotna321 Turn on an a show thats in HDR from Netflix or another streaming service thats the best way to check.

@@TechWithKG when i turn on a show with hdr on netflix, there is no prompt that it is running in hdr

Use active it should be the better result

@@TechWithKG thankks

You are playing SDR content, that's why the HDR functions aren't available

@@jorgec2824 THANKS man, but I have bought a LGC3 55 INCHEZZZZZZ, my life is better with an LG now, hdr go automatically and menus and options are really easy to find....I have returned back the samsung to amazon at the end, the lg C3 is so far superior (only brightness pick is less than the samsung)!!!!

It’s not on A just C series 2023 models

does that mean it's always "on", since you can't adjust it? I do have HGIG though, I'm wondering since the TV has that option maybe it overrides DTM. I'm also curious how Local dimming factors into this, isn't that a related thing to DTM. Someone said Local Dimming high disables DTM or something. @@TechWithKG

Yeah I hope they find a way to bring it in an update somehow

You have to be in a hdr source

@@TechWithKG turns out the HDMI cable I have was bad so I couldn't do 4k

Wo long

Because it does not have burn ins. Check Rtings for the updated burn ins test, and maybe you might change your mind. OLED are great TV but QLED are great too just that one is better in one environment and the other in another environment. However, overall QLED tip OLED for all environments. Now, if we're talking about QD-OLED with pic quality, then that's something different.

@@ownerr8441 with QD oled the brightness issue isn't really a issue anymore.

@Andre QD-OLED is brighter for sure but still burn in risk and that's one of the main issues for OLED in general, not forgetting that it degrades over time because of the nature of OLED.