@@niklayons3327 nik I think you canceled it, but if you follow the channel (even the last video I did about the oculus Quest) you will know that I talk about it a lot. Simply this is a comparison between 2 other headsets? why didn't I talk about the Oculus or the original Vive or the lenovo or others? well, because this is Vive Pro against O+, also the pimax is not on the market yet, they have my 800 dollars from a month and I dont have any date. You can't buy it. That's a matter of fact.
Ok so I have been a Vive user since the Vive first came out and have owned the O+ for two weeks now. When I first got the O+ and plugged it in everything was not working correctly, it was blurry and the tracking was messing up with the video going upside down. So I was playing a game and the whole world just turned upside down. This was due to my Vive being installed on the system. Step by Step here is how I fixed everything and made it better. Skip steps 1-3 if you only have the O+ on your system. 1. You have to uninstall EVERYTHING VR on your system first including SteamVR. 2. Plug in your O+ and go through the setup for WMR on the O+ setting up everything with your boundaries. 3. Download and install Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR this will also install SteamVR now close everything. 4. Right click on the Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR in Steam and click properties, uncheck Use Desktop Game Theatre, click on the Local Files tab, and click on Browse Local Files. 5. Double click Resources folder then Settings folder and right click on Default. Click copy then past and rename the copy to Default - Backup. 6. Open Default with Notepad and change "renderTargetScale" : 1.0 to "renderTargetScale" : 10.0, click File and Save. This is just target scale and will only go up to where it needs it. 7. Open Start and in the Start window scroll down on the left side to the Mixed Reality Portal and drag and drop it to the bottom onto your Taskbar. 8. Click on the WMR symbol on the taskbar it will then start up your O+ and then open WMR for SteamVR. 9. On the SteamVR window click at the top of where it says Ready on Steam (Version #) and click on Settings. 10. Checkmark Do Not Disturb if you do not want the Steam notifications to keep popping up on you in game. Click on the Developer Tab on the left and make sure Enable Advanced Supersampling Filter is unchecked. 11. Click on Video Tab on the Left and click on Manual Override now move the slider to 150%. SteamVR Dev told me that WMR headsets will go blurry if you go over 150% and that the software is capped there at the moment. Close Settings. 12. Right Click on your speaker Icon in the bottom right corner while the headset is still running and click on Sounds, click on the Playback Tab, scroll down to the Green Checkmark, click on it, and click properties. 13. Click on the Advanced Tab and uncheck Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device. Now click on the Spatial Sound Tab, click on the drop down under Spatial sound format, and select Windows Sonic for Headphones. Click on Apply, then OK, then OK. You now have 360 degree spatial sound in the headphones. Not sure why it does not turn it on automatically but it doesn't. This should set you up correctly and everything should be a lot sharper with spatial 360 degree sound. I guess I should do a video on this but I just do not have my system setup for recording. After I did this everything is super sharp, the sound is now 360 degrees and better than my Vive. I will post this on SweViver and MRTV post also.
Thanks for the info, but I don't think it's universal. I've seen a bunch of reviews who plugged an O+ into a system w/ a Vive (almost certainly he did the same thing for this video) and had no problems. People are even linking their Vive controllers and lighthouses to the O+ without uninstalling everything first.
@@moarsaur Well really if you have no problems you wont need to I had a lot of problems with mine until I reinstalled everything could have been a something bad somewhere. My son had to do the same thing on his computer also. I read some reviews where they said the tracking was all wonky and I was having the same thing at first.
I owned the occulus, tested the vive, and finally i just received the O+, wow.. i like the difference ! the futur of VR has to be simple and not too expensive, HTC is the only one to stay at a high price, Oculus droped the price around 500 too. I liked the vive and Oculus, but for example, on Elite Dangerous you have to read text, and it's uncomfortable to read text on Vive and Oculus, on the O+ it's clear and no space between pixel to read text, i like it :)
I have a Vive Pro and the setup is really, very easy. Sure when you first get the headset, it's intimidating when it comes to setting it up for the first time. However, it's only 4 step process and anyone can set it up from scratch in less than 30 seconds. Regarding the audio, I didn't fine the Vive audio all that good. So I removed the Vive headphones as I already had my own pair. I have since read that there is some find of limitation that can be changed in Windows which will greatly increase the audio clarity and bass volume. I also have to add, the Vive customer service (at least in Australia) is extremely friendly and very helpful (provided you are not a d!ckhed). If you have any technical issues, I highly recommend you get in touch with them. Anyhow, a pretty good review and interesting to hear your perspective on these two headsets 👍
I have been reading a lot of reviews of the Odyssey+. I have only seen praise for the screen. I am not sure what you mean by many people don't like the anti-SDE technology.
Many complaints about the sweet spot, i.e. getting the lenses positioned for clearest viewing is the least forgiving of any headset on the market. If you also can't get a comfortable fit (#1 complaint in reviews), then even if you get the sweet spot dialed in, you're going to shake it loose. But what he's talking about is that some people find the image blurry even with the sweet spot dialed in, because blurring the image is what the anti-SDE layer does.
@@Tyrielwood This is difficult for flight sim users. I fly DCS modules and it is essential to read the gauges or digital readouts such as the radar scan and others. The analogue gauges of the WWII aircraft would need needle approximation to determine what the needle is resting on. Question: is there a method in software adjustment to make the image as contrasty/sharp as possible even with the SDE? Great videos for me to make a choice. Kudos!
Tyriel, find a "depth of field" (or DOF) calculator on the net to find the ideal distance, aperture & focal point for your studio. Then, manually set your camera's aperture and focal point to the centre of where your face will appear in the shoot, instead of using auto focus. This will stop the focus from jumping around throughout the video.
Just got the Samsung Odyssey Plus + ...mostly because it was the only VR headset in stock. it works great and is well worth the purchase. and considering its 100$ cheaper than rift s and you cant even get the rift s currently its an excellent way to get into VR.
I got the O+ on sale and I am using it on a GTX 1050. Honestly, I should of gotten one of the cheaper headsets cause of my bad GPU, but I got it for a present. So far it’s been fun and I’ve played SuperHot, Beatsaber, Space Pirate Trainer, and a bunch of other games pretty smoothly!
I'm waiting for my Odyssey + to arrive. It's my first headset but I had experience with the Rift, Vive and Samsung Gear VR. But I've been following the VR industry since Rift was launched and when Rift arrived I found it to be too expensive for what it was. The first thing that I noticed when I first tried Rift and Vive was the SDE. A total deal breaker for me. So my next hope was the Pimax, which I hoped had no SDE thanks to the higher resolution. I was going to get it but then the Odyssey + came along with the anti SDE and all the pictures I saw pushed me towards the Odyssey +. Not to mention the awesome 299 dollar deal. For me the biggest priority for VR should be to eliminate the SDE and provide higher resolution
Perhaps you forgot you can combine both. Use Samsung for head / visuals / audio and Vive tracking system for controllers. Then you have almost perfect VR system :) Though i heard some people complaining about missing joystick on Vive controllers. It's extra control option and some people will love it. The Vive controllers have not much buttons and one tracking pad, which is not much compared to WMR controllers. WMR controllers are better. Pretty hard to decide.
@@renwhitlock523 reasons ! Honestly I want to grab some new index knuckles and some light house 1.0 With openVR you can get it all working and I love the Odyssey Plus screen especially comparing it to my buddies Rift S. I definitely want to find someone with lighthouses and I want to see if I can be better in Beat Saber or if will be pleceabo. Maybe MS will release some camera modules for 360 tracking. I would absolutely love that but we don't know what the future holds.
Good video! I just ordered a Odyssey + last night. I have a Rift and love it. But I wanted a headset I can travel around with my laptop. Can't wait to get the + and try it out.
Can you make a video about the HTC vive wireless adapter not working on AMD ryzen computers? This is information people should know if they are planning on buying one.
Oh man thank you for a great side by side and opinion but I really wish your Elite Dangerous screenshots were closer to identical because I wasn't able to determine the difference without seeing the text around the destination planet... Is the vive pro's clarity/visual quality that much better? How about the steadiness of frames per second/animation? Or was it a bit "all over the place" with fps dips and poor performance in the usual AAA games?
I just ordered the Samsung Odyssey Plus, it's going to be my first VR headset. I hope I'm going to be impressed with it. I have a nice PC with an 8700K at 5.0 ghz and a 2080 ti to power it.
You will be fine, the tracking isn't as good like the Vive or Rift but with all that said, not having to setup the extra tracking equipment, you can't go wrong and your pc is more than enough, the plus with the Odyssey + is the built in blue tooth in the headset, boy did I have some issues with different PC's with a blue tooth with the old Odyssey connection.
You should be happy especially as it's you first VR headset. Having both I do prefer the superior tracking of my Vive and the better audio with my deluxe audio strap. Also have the wireless adapter so that really fantastic. If I could only have one it would be the Vive for the reasons mention here and the comments I made in my post in the video. I do like the Odyseey+ alot for it superior screen and easy of use. I do use it more often as it easy to plug and play really quicky at any time, even in only for a few minutes, something I would never do with my Vive.
@@Michael-hr5wf With a bit of messing around, you can also use the SO+ with the Vive tracking bundle ($300 for 1.0) and still come in on par with Vive Pro headset only. Granted, a lot of people say the Vive wands are the worst controllers out there. I don't have a problem with them, but I haven't used anything else.
The only VR headset I ever tried was Gear VR with my S6, I'm guessing this will be a big upgrade from that. I only used it for a little bit because it cracked my phone screen.
When you plug it in it will be set at the default resolution and fairly blurry/soft. because you have a killer pc you will then be able to crank up the resolution in the settings to like 200% and will look amazing.
Tyriel, love your videos. I see ready player one always on your background. When are you going to review Omni-Directional Treadmills? Kat VR released the Kat Walk Mini which is small and light for home use.
Hey Jacob, I'll be super honest, I was going to buy one some months ago, but that I took some measurement and I had to say no.. living in a new york apartment doesn't help, I will try to make some review in the future from conferences, but it will be impossible for me to have them at home to make a full review. The Kat looks amazing though..
A big mistake is just to show these little images of the VR device during the lens filming. You have to imagine that many people are watching RU-vid with a mobile phone. It is impossible to find out which VR device is shown.
I bought the samsung odyssey plus and I want to mention that the difference between VR and reality are getting close! After many hours in there you start mixing realities, and sometimes you are not sure if you are in real life or in a computer game. So you might end up standing in your (real) shower thinking that the graphic could be better xD
Definitely. The screen on the Odyssey is going to be brighter, have better FOV, better refresh rate(60hz vs 90hz) and nearly no SDE, with the only negative being that the lenses on the GearVR provide a better sweetspot. I only have the Original Odyssey and even so i still can't go back to my GearVR again because of it's low FOV and Refresh Rate.
Awesome video! I've had the regular Vive 2 times since launch, sold it both times because I couldnt stand the SDE. It's still hard to decide though because of Oculus Quest, if it will be possible to use the quest with a PC, do you think it's better than the Odyssey Plus in regards of picture quality?
yes, resolution is higher than what I saw in the quest, but they have 2 completely different markets :) if you can't stand SDE so odyssey plus is a must :)
@@timdawson3194 ergonomics, software, build quality, the whole concept of the rift feels much better. I really dislike that the odyssey is so bulky and feels hard to fit right on my head and that the controllers are that huge and clunky. This all feels like a huge step backwards. The screen is nice of course. But I realized that it isn't that important as I thought it was.
@@monkeyperson9392 cheers. Im hearing very mixed reviews and opinions for the oddysey plus so never know what to believe. When people say its better than the vive pro makes me have high expectations. I will have to give it a go and sell if its not what I hoped it would be.
@@xKenn Wouldn't agree at all on the tracking. Tracking on the Odyssey is dependent on the environment and light and often feels off, slow or not exact in comparison to the rift tracking which I would describe as really accurate and snappy.
The biggest problem i have with Windows MR is that controllers use Bluetooth - and this creates interference with WiFi signal, practically disabling internet connection. Playing multiplayer games online, or watching online content is not possible( in my case - when using WiFi ). It would be great if there was an easy solution to this.
I tried BOTH aswell. I sent the VIVE PRO back, because it did not work properly for me. Then I bought the RIFT, which works perfect. 2 Weeks ago I bought the Odyssey Plus and I tested it now with Assetto Corsa, Raceroom, Rfactor2 and IL-2 Battle Of Kuban. The Samsung works great with Inside Out Tracking, but the wearing comfort is not great at all for me. The Anti SDE filter works good, but the blurry unclear picture which it provides is a big downside. Inside the car is clear and sharp, but outside is too blurry and not clear enough. Specially in Raceroom the blurry picture is a NoGo. I use my Rift now again, the picture is more clear and sharp, even with the ugly SDE. I am a bit dissapointed of the performance overall of the Odyssey Plus.
spaceman1980 of course I used SS in SteamVR! I tried SS 150% and also 200%. It did not make the picture better. Especially I mentioned Raceroom because that is the standard Software I use for SimRacing. As I said, inside the car is really good, looking outside is awe full. In Raceroom I have ghosting effects with the Samsung, not with the Rift. In Assetto Corsa, when I want to watch the car from outside in VR, with the Samsung the car shakes very quickly, it does not shake at all with the Rift. Rfactor 2 works Ok with the Odyssey Plus. When you have yours, please tell me your impressions here, if you experience the same as I do.
Welcome! I bought the OS+ because of your Videos, I think it is a good HMD, but I just don't like the blurry picture. I even tried to change the settings in the WMR Software. I hope that there will be some Windows updates to make the OS+ better.
I say just stick with the original HTC Vive because it has everything HTC Vive pro has or less your a little high maintenance with a high price to your little maintenance and the windows mixed reality headset in my opinion I think it's good for people that travel with a high end laptop.
I will not find the need to buy the official one when it comes out because already comfortable and without light bleeding, so I guess the oculus rift one is good enough :) but official is official :)
i went with the samsung plus.. got it on ebay for under 300. Is the field of view the same on both of these.. i have heard rumors that the samsung has a better pov than the rift.
Hello! You said that Odyssey Plus has a smaller sweetspot than Odyssey. I think this is an important condition for immersion in virtual reality. What do you think, is it worth sacrificing this for the ASD effect? As I understand it, the ASD effect is the only significant improvement in the Plus version.
the sweet spot is perfectly fiiiine. i own the Odyssey+ too. Ppl saying the sweet spot is so bad are full of shit. the psvr has muuuuch worse sweet spot. i own it too. so yeah the odyssey+ is a pretty good headset, BUT its quite uncomfortable on the head and the tracking is kinda meeh
This is true. Samsung just keeps doing their $200 off the Odyssey+ headset. For $300, it's really a good deal. I picked up one recently and I did not regret it.
The blurriness is a deal breaker for me, thats why I upgraded to Vive Pro from PSVR. I like my graphics sharp as they can get because that’s how I see real life, it’s a bit surprising that you mention blurriness gives you a sense of more realness.
I'm beginning to suspect that people who like anti-SDE don't have 20/20 vision. People who wear glasses for example wouldn't mind a little blurring to remove SDE, because a little blurring still looks realistic to them. For anyone with sharp eyesight the slightest blurring looks like an instagram filter.
Then that's pretty much I was saying in the first place. People with 20/20 vision i.e. perfect eyesight notice more detail, thus the blurring effect of the anti-SDE screens is more pronounced to them, myself included. SDE sucks but blurry vision sucks even more if your experience of reality is characterized by sharp visuals. Those who already see things blurry half or all the time probably don't notice that big of a difference and might prefer a little blurring to SDE, or perhaps might even prefer a little blurring in general because it more closely matches their habitual perception of reality. Perhaps headsets could someday give users the choice to adjust the ratio of SDE to blurriness to the level that best matches their own eyesight or preference at any given moment. Virtual reality should be about experiencing different realities but also having the option to do that through your own familiar lens of reality.
You could've mentioned the pros and cons of the controllers. Otherwise a nice video! I like the Pro as my waiting-for-pimax-hmd. Lighthouse tracking is so awesome and the comfort of the Pro enables me to play for instance Elite Dangerous for as long as I like. I played 13 hours straight one time (lol). I like the clarity and the screen door effect is so small that I never see it while I'm playing. Just when I stop and focus on seeing it. I've never tried the Odyssey+ but it seems really nice. But, Samsung, for the love of gawd - make it available in the European market, you bungholes.
I played DCS 6 hours last night in the O+ if you put it on correctly it is very comfortable, I could have played longer. But yeah the Vive and pro is still a little more comfortable. I tried to use my Vive and the SDE is just too much now lol.
@@davidellacott297 Still not perfect but a lot better than any other VR headset I have tried even the Vive Pro. SteamVR super sampling on WMR headsets does not work above 150% right now, I even had a Steam Dev confirm it. Over 150% can blur the image. I made a setup guide for the O+ to get the best quality but you also have to increase the PD value in DCS I would set it to 1.5 first and work from there. Here is the setup guide. docs.google.com/document/d/1DUMRhudYJLBW46GEghAeBctxpUXUQ0UHNKvSITkLJmw/edit?usp=sharing
@@Tyrielwood A year on the Vive and 2 months on the rift. I'm finding Revive very poor with it aswell. Head lag or poor framerate in 50% of my library.
The problem with the odyssey is that I use a motion platform and I need a tracker to put on motion to cancel out the movement. Is it possible to use a tracker with the odyssey?
Hmmm..If I hate the integrated headphones on the Odyssey Plus, I wonder if I could break out the soldering iron and apply my own headphones...muahaha! Actually, I like wearing headphones over my Lenovo Explorer; Not just because they sound great, but because they also improve the fit of the VR headset, offering more cushioning and locking the headset in place.
I know this comment is a bit old but, Samsung odysseys headphones are 360 noise. unless you have a 200 dollar headset stick to them. if you don't like the sound volume, just turn I up or down.
"Is this $700 headset-only system that requires you to spend $1300+ if you don't already have a vive... better than this $275 plug-and-play Windows MR headset?" Gee, I wonder.
I had the original vive and a desktop. I sold that to a friend and bought an alienware 17 r5 and I am thinking about buying the samsung odyssey plus anyone else recommend that ?
Tyriel, I couldn't watch your videos. They are very very informative but you speak very fast and with very big accent. Perhaps slow down so that accent is not as pronounced, otherwise 1/3 of the info is being lost in "translation"
No offense, but this was kind of a pointless video comparison in terms of which is best, a more appropriate title should have been,"Which hmd is best for the non-initiated vr novice user on a budget". Somethings you or don't prefer between the two are yourself subjective, these competitions tend to unfairly diminish one headset over another, and falsely so. In any case, keep up the great work with your channel 👍
Nice to see a much more balanced review than some others that like to hype certain headsets and disregard everything else. Having both, I for one would not trade my wireless Vive with Delux Audio Strap for an Odyseey+ despite the better screen. I do hope Valve make their own HMD as rumored as HTC pricing is out of wack. I don't want to purchase anymore HTC HMDs if at all possible.
Coming from the Vive and now also having an Odyseey+ I find: DIsplay: The Odyseey+ has a superior screen. The higher resolution and improved SDE are really fantastic. If wathing movies, video or TV shows the Odyseey+ is easily are superior choice. Setup: I use my Odyseey+ more as it basically plug and play, so jumping in to play a quick games happens more frequently. The Vive was more of a weekend device or taking and setting up at a friends house device. If I'm having a get together to play VR my wireless Vive is HMD of choice, because of the reason below. Comfort: I have few issues with either. The Odyseey+ does begin to bother my forehead after a while and leaves a mark. The Odyseey+ does have more light bleed, but usually not a big issue for me, but I guess that will depend how well it fits your face. Using my glasses is far better with the Odyseey+. I can use glasses with my Vive, but it's much more of a pain in the butt. Tracking: Vive is hands down has the superior tracking system. In some games I do notice to inferior tracking of the Odysee+. It does annoy me in some games like Longbow and space pirate trainer. Other games I don't notice. To me though tracking is the single most important factor. While playing the better visuals are nice , but once in games it becomes less of a factor. Smooth consistent game play and tracking kill the game experience faster than anything else. Audio: I can't talk about the Vive Pro, but the Vive with Deluxe Audio Strap I find far superior to the Odyseey+ . Everytime I use the Odyseey+ I notice the audio downgrade. Attempting to adjust the headphone position helps a bit, but still just bla. The inability to remove them and use your own headphones on the Odyseey+ just makes it even worse. In the end, I'm glad I have the Odyseey+ especially at the $300 Black Friday pricing. Each has it Pros and cons, but Unlike other I would not replace my Vive with an Odysee+, especially as my Vive has the Delux Audio Strap and the wireless adapter, making it fantastic for large room scale game play. Now, I'm just waiting to see if this rumored Valve HMD actually materializes. If it can deliver the best of both, at a reasonable (non HTC) price point, I'll jump on that day one!
Put the back headsteap further down until front part of foam lays PERFECTLT FLAT on your forehead. If you wear this way, it will be much comfortable and you will have way way enough headphone come to your ear. Just don't wear like a hat like most O+ owners.
@@ji3200 thanks for the advice. I do that, but to0 far and it becomes too uncomfortable around my nose. I can improve the headphone reach but not as much as I'd like. For me the overall for is fine, but not great. I'll continue to play with it and see if I can find a happy medium that works better for me.
@@ji3200 Some reviewers have speculated that the SO+ is a better fit for Asian cheekbones than Western barbarian faces, i.e. Samsung didn't test it on many face/head types.
@@Tyrielwood yes you're right the review was about what's available now i understand. That's why I went for the Odyssey + from BH on black Friday deal really worth it even if i will pay import fees here in France. Can wait to see the difference with my oculus rift.
But 5k and 8k are grate tbut use lcd screens instead of oled. For me thats a turn of otherwise I would have bought it.. right now I'm undecided vive pro or Odyssee + for my first vr Headset. My fried recommends the vive because he says tracking is the most important..what so you guys think?
I watched a video of the MRTV guy talking about a setting resolution that the Vive Pro has at 140% by default, but the Odyssey has at 100% and, setting it at 140%, will give the same clarity of the Vive. Can you confirm this?
well using supersampling on any headset will give more clarity.. so if you ss the vive pro as well will get more clear too^^ I use to supersample my hmd every time, but for hardware reaasons the vive pro will always be sharper than the odyssey, and with more sde
I bought an htc vive pro more than one week ago for the 200 discount and a 100 more from the web site selling that... overpriced peace of crap vr headset ! The audio is so lame that the simple definition of calling that thing PRO is an offense ! It's really heavy, even the hdmi wire makes you feel like as a diver. (maybe it's good for playing with narcosis) The wands are so akwards compared to the oculus touch ( no stick and the grips buttons are abysmal ) that's why i'am not surprised that most of vr users are not using for long their vr headset ( as for the rift most of the owners only got 2 sensors and it's the same story but for a different reason ) You can put and adjust your oculus rift in 3 seconds with an excellent sweet spot ( with the vive so called pro that's a total different story) and the audio immerse you in vr ( but those things are here for decoration I suppose no real audio functionality) , the vive pro has almost nothing for it except its insane price ! I can only speak of the vive pro compared to an oculus rift but for those who lived in the US and managed to catch the 299$ bargain for the odyssey+ that must have been a better bet than wasting in my case 1106 € instead of 1490 ( with no commerciale license included + 199 € I guess they picked that name for no reason at all , should have called it : "vive nearly half pro... something" ) The vive trackers are the only reason why arcades are going with HTC otherwise I don't see why anyone would be happy to spend that much money for such an expensive peace of shitty hardware ! and about clarity : the vive pro is sufficient enough to realise that having a better resolution is not enough we need better graphics, more polygons and HD textures cause the games do not look better it's the total opposite) But thanks to Nvidia ; no GPU will be able to handle it for the next 4 years !
Copying what I wrote elsewhere: So....a week later with my VPro, I may return mine. Really want to like it but so many hrs spent with the confusing Steam interface (for VR at least), useless VivePort interface, constant loss of headset and controller connectivity, constantly removing headset to use keyboard and mouse to start or end (with last sort Task Master), not terribly well fitting headset (and this comparing to the Odyssey first gen) and final straw - no video streaming without forking up more $. My Lenovo and Samsung were so intuitive and seamless. Just put it on and everything starts right up, no hassle. Where's the fun when you have to troubleshoot every damn time you go to have some fun? By the time I have everything working well enough, the controller batteries are on 1-2/4 bars. This is stupid..or I'm stupid or both but it's too much hassle for no excess reward. Setup was not difficult at all, but lots of non responsive and locking up software. It may track better - that's the only and significant plus side. Your decision.
@@TaidaDave To me it's like driving a car with a faulty cruise control while back seat drivers distract me. Not to worry, Valve Index should fit the bill.
I see and wonder which OS you are using then but Valve index has win 10 as requirement seems to be quite a lot more expensive than odyssey+ so it might be better to wait for knuckle controllers from htc than buy the whole kit that is only steam compatible (there may be more non steam developers in the future)
@@TaidaDave Ah that's a shame. According to a Valve email they haven't deliberately locked it out from Windows 7, but it won't be officially supported, so it may not work on all systems and performance may not be as good as Windows 10. Found some Windows 10 optimization scripts on reddit which I'll give a try later today. I wouldn't mind having Win10 on a separate SSD and then just boot from that whenever using VR, but the problem is I have to physically disconnect my Win7 SSD's every time, because Win10 does something weird to them which causes "the disk has errors" on the next boot of Win7 and I have to run checkdisk to correct the errors. It's like Win10 changes some parameters in the file table of every drive to make it compatible with Win10, and then when Win7 tries to boot from it, it needs to run checkdisk to fix the errors that Win10 made. So what I need is a physical switch that can switch over to a different SATA ports. First I need to solve a separate Win10 issue where transferring files from one location to another on the OS's SSD results in extremely slow file transfer speeds (~2MB/sec). I think it might be windows defender scanning each file, maybe those reddit scripts can disable it. I don't use any third party antivirus, and my system is pretty decent, i7-4790k + GTX1070 with good quality SSDs (Samsung 850 Evo + Sandisk Extreme II).
I already own the original Samsung Odyssey and didn't even know the + existed until this video. I'm not going to buy the + just because they added a filter to reduce SDE. All they did is blur out the SDE thus making the image blurry, no thanks. The only REAL way to reduce SDE is to increase resolution. I also own the Vive Pro and while it is a nice overall product, mine didn't leave the factory quite right. It has all kinds of intermittent issues. It's already been sent to HTC twice to fix these issues but they send it back only a little better each time to where there are still issues but they are less frequent, but still happen and are still random. They refuse to just replace it too, they just send it back just a little less broken each time. That said when it is working right it is way better than the Samsung, the Samsung has too many tracking issues and for obvious reasons does not work with Steam as well as the Vive Pro. I also own and like the Oculus Rift a lot, especially the touch controls, but the Rift has lower resolution than either of these and that is my most important spec when I reach for one.
The Odyssey+ has a completely different fit and face pads, and has Bluetooth 5.0 interested into the headset itself, greatly improving tracking of controllers
If you are a human being and SWEAT then DO NOT buy the HTC VIVE, they are only for people that doesnt sweat, cause they steam of your body will enter and break the piece of sh*t.
It uses two AA batteries in each controller. I bought eight rechargeable AA batteries but you have to get 1.5V or above rechargeable. Coming from a Vive I actually like the battery swap more if I am in game and the controller goes dead all I have to do is swap the batteries real quick and I am good to go. When my controllers died on the Vive I was done for the night because they had to charge for at least four hours.
I disagree with you on the Odyssey Plus, I prefer my Vive, the Odyssey has screen door removed, but I like the sharpness of the Vive, it is more immersive in my opinion. I got the Odyssey + for $300. Got my Vive for I think $600, if I had to choose, Vive hands down. My friend wore the Odyssey + for an hour and got a very bad headache, she did not have that with the Vive. The Odyssey will not keep the room set up settings, So I just turn that off, but it is a pain to have to do it every time.
She probably got headach because she wear it like a hat which is not proper way to wear it. O+ is way better than vive, no sde, sharper resolution if you supersample it and no sagging face skin like vive and much comfortable if you wear properly.
@@annenouk5272 Hold the unit up to your face to where the image is perfect, the unit is sitting on your forehead, and where ever the back band is that is where you tighten it down at. Then you pull the headphones down into place which will pull the back band down just a little bit making it snug. It just sits on top of your head like a crown the face pads hardly touches your face all the weight is on the forehead and back piece. I have played a couple times now around 6 hours straight in it with no problems.
Weird my room set up has never messed up you must have something setup wrong. I do know you have to uninstall any VR device you already have installed first then setup the O+ and then go back and set your Vive back up if you don't the Vive installation will conflict with your O+ in SteamVR. So uninstall everything VR first, install the O+, then setup Windows mixed reality for SteamVR this will also install SteamVR. Now go back and setup Vive again. You can not have both headsets plugged in at the same time either it will conflict. If you are saying the Vive is sharper than you do not have the O+ setup correctly.
