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How’s the HDR look? Upvote this comment if you want to see more, I’d love to hear your feedback on the HDR format on RU-vid and where are you watching in HDR?
When running youtube HDR content, my G4 looks awesome. I know it depends on what settings are preferred per each picture mode using advanced settings personally, but the shadow details do appear to be better. Especially with nature scenes. I haven't tried throwing a disc into my UB820 just yet, im still rearranging my surround speakers, but I plan on it soon. My son said he noticed a huge difference with the P5 on the G4 compared to his A80J. I said, "Obviously. 😂 keep it coming, KG, thanks.
QD oled: pixels degrade sooner (yes LED and Woled also don't have long lifespans) LG G4: lots of support for different sound types. LG: nicer operational system in general (but can be bypassed using better options such as Apple TV) LG: better motion processing in general and less reports about dropouts during games (reviewed on other sites) LG: better out of the box closer to content needed colors. (film maker etc) Lg 5 year panel warrantys
Great review, I brought the LG G4 after much deliberation betwen the S95D and the LG G4, After seeing both S95C and S95D side by side at my local store i found the S95D matt panel was a deal breaker for me, compairing the two side by side the S95D matt panel looks grey compaired to the S95C glossy panel, i thought the blacks were much deeper on the S95C, I found the LG G4 to have a much cleaner and sharper image quality, better sound outputs, easy user interferance, more usb ports and bigger remote, and the best thing of all it comes with a wall mount in gthe box, the thing i did like about the S95D was the one connect and the bigger screen hieght but the matt screen was a deal breaker for me, Im very happy with the LG G4
LG G4 is sharper and more detailed than Samsung, I lived to see this, Samsung has always been sharper and more detailed than LG and it seems that now LG has changed the game
Would you do an other Bravia 9 vs. G4 comparison? I think it would be good to have more than the first video to build a opinion and it would interest a lot of people right now. Btw. I really appreciate the wave diagram at the bottom. In generell the quality of the comparisons got better, keep it up!
When viewing them both in stores in comparison, the Samsung QD OLED just looks better / brighter and richer in colour. I bought it and haven’t regretted my decision. The S95D is an amazing TV
@@SelfSc1ence my brother has one, led can’t remember the model number. Poor gaming performance all kinds of artefacts. I went trough all kinds of settings to get it better. I could barely get it better. When artefacts gone image was choppy. My parents had 55 inch Qled, bit more than 2500 euro’s, died few weeks ago, within 5 years, problems with connections complete black screen..etc. The guy who was hired(not samsung company but electronics company) to collect (broken)tv’s from homes said: hey I have a lot of samsungs that I have to get more than other brands. On reddit reports of sudden drops (little screen outtages) when gaming even at high fps 120 with the newer oled models. S95b first qd oled, people reporting poor build quality. Samsung: no support for dolby vision and some audio formats. Conclusion: No samsung for me, but hey.. My choice.. if you want to get samsung get one.. your money your choice. I also like 5 year lg g series warranty. I am not paid to tell this, I do a lot of reading on forums, reviews etc. Focus on long term. Follow rtings longtivity tests etc. Phones my girlfriend likes the samsung notes series because of pencil, but complains more than me using Iphone, samsung dies faster. Software is just build less robust. But.. So many people so many opinions..
@@SelfSc1ence my reactions are getting removed somehow My parents had Qled 55 2500 euro’s. Was broken in 5 years, black screen connections lost. Guy from electronic shop who takes tv’s with his van from homes said he saw lot of samsung backlash. Meaning lot of samsungs tv’s failing. S95b was reported on forums to have poor build quality My brother has samsung led, which is difficult to get good gaming on. When artefacts are gone, the image is poorer with regard to motion, colors etc My GF had samsung notes sometimes failing completely software wise. New qd oleds on forums I read in gaming modes and high fps gaming modes sometimes a little milli to seconds black screen when playing.
S95D better with orange and yellow colors, otherwise G4 significantly brighter esp. blue and white as one would expect. I have S95D and the picture quality is stunning with good source materials. Given the price difference ($2250/€2100 for 55” and give away HW-S700D soundbar vs. LG $2570/€2400) at the time of purchase zero regrets for the decision. Only big minus for Samsung for no DTS passthrough.
S95d visibly distorts white into rose/red/orange/pink. Whereas g4 seems to narrow the color range where there is predominant color in a frame. Eg where a green forest was shown details of other colors turned much greener than on s95d. I would prefer g4, but both models seem to be very potent and I guess there is a market for each model.
There was a doubt which s90d were woled and which were qdoled. Id like to see a comparative between these two of the same brand to see if theres a real difference.
some time ago I wanted to change my 77g2 to 77g4 and the more I thought about it, the more I thought about it. In the final, reason won and I decided to stay on g2, at least until g5 comes out, and possibly g6. 📺 I use it 90% for games on PS5.
I have 55G4, everything is better with G4 but I dont like panel, uniformity is not the best, too many vertical bars on gray scale, pink tinting on white images, and when you play RDR2 open map and try panning camera left to right and backwards, I see bars and tinting awful... Only I like qd oled is uniformity almost perfect, I wish LG make tvs with qd oled panels, that would be perfect combination 😊👌
@@flingymingyI did a manual pixel refresh after some run in time and mine is really good. Conversely, panel uniformity is getting worse on the latest batch of QD OLED. It's still better than W OLED generally. But not heading in the right direction.
Hey KG great video thanks for the comparison. Is it possible to fix either the magenta or green tint on either sets with calibration? I know you said it's not too bad in person but I think seeing magenta or green whites would personally bother me a lot. I'm trying to decide on my next 65". Should I be looking at the Bravia 9 instead?
@TechWithKG Watched the video 2 times now and stumbled about your notion about the G4 losing colour when higher mastered content is played and how that could be mitigated with the hdr professional settings. Could you elaborate on that as I couldn’t find a video on that topic. Thank you and great content !
Yes because bt2020 does need some tweaking in game mode, Classy’s S90C settings would be a good starting point for this I’ll have to ask him if anything changed for tweaking that this year.
U cant beat the color purity of qd-oled. The colors at all brightness levels are more pleasing to the eye than woled. Its something i don’t believe the camera is able to capture.
That is like console wars here. Come one - without putting them side by side, I doubt anybody would feel that any of these two models is not offering an optimal experience. Here the G4 is 30 per cent more expensive but offers the five years of warranty. Very torn.
Maybe too late for having an answer but, the "3d effect" of the LG is there is a thing really noticeable ? Especially for gaming ? I see some people tell that the coating on Samsung is bad for the 3d effect, and even with the better color, LG G4 is better for them
Hey Kg, is the color brightness difference with the s95d noticeable on hgig games or is it only when hgig is not supported and it defaults to 4000 nits?.
@@TechWithKG Thanks, im in between buying either an a95l or g4 in 55 inches just because i feel like those 2 would be the most accurate ootb, leaning more for the a95l but dont think i want to spend 2700 seems very overpriced, do you think it will come down by black friday?
I've always hated the greenish tint that LG OLED TVs have. I had the C6, and it was awful with color accuracy. I'd pick the QD-OLED because the colors are better.
@@TechWithKG One more question. This being one of the only hdr comparisons of these 2 tvs on youtube, I also watched this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GYrTd1RY-WY.htmlsi=L4ycUuKOOa4DtdvL&t=345 . I ended your video with the conclusion that the g4 was brighter and better tone mapped (which is likely true). However, the other hdr comparison displayed the opposite. Could this just be differences in settings used to test the tv? And if so, do you know of modes on the 95d to make the highlights look like that without making the image too distorted? Im thinking of getting a s95d soon because i like the coating but your video makes the g4s highlights look so much better.
after further consideration, i've come to the conclusion that the s95d often looks more natural and the post ai processing that the g4 has is very hit or miss and sometimes overexposes highlights and scenes. Though often the processing can make the g4 look punchy-er, the effect is inconsistent and can make some scenes look worse even introducing banding at times. This plus my favor for the samsungs matte screen, which i think influences a sense of physicality in the image in person, made me end up purchasing the s95d over the g4. Maybe if they get the whole ai post processing fleshed out, samsung should add it to the s95e but as of now I dont see it as of much of a drawback.
@@ipodguy123g lgs are known for better natural and no vivid oversaturation. Film maker / dolby vision is almost 100% spot on according to brian and stop the fomo which are tv calibrators guys
@@interistapazzo1.9.0.8qd oled is ridiculously gorgeous. Its not something that can be captured on a camera, but qd-oled has incredibly pure colors which results in an overall more soothing image. My brain prefers the light itself coming from qd-oled. I have both woled and qd-oled. Never have seen an mla woled, but i get the same effect from sdr content where the qd oled and woled are at the same brightness.
@@crowntotheundergroud my g4 have colors that you never belive it.. and at the same time a unreal detailed image.. so i don‘t ned a qd oled 😉 it‘s all about the settings
Bro the lg can get close to the qd oleds color. The main problem is the color space and the fact that lg oleds run at a very cold temperature. Here is how you fix it. First take your remote and point the cursor to any picture mode setting, now type in the secret code 1113111. Change color space on sdr to bt2020. Make sure you are on native color space. Now also go ahead and enable the reduce blue light filter. You need to be on expert dark space. Turn off peak brightness. Then go in to the white balance, set it to warm 50. Set the color upgrade to high. Also go down to the blue and green and set them to minus 50. Then go to contrast enhancer and set it to high. Turn off auto genre selection if its on. Then finally go to gamma and set it to bt1886 or 2.4. Finally increase the sharpness and turn on ai picture pro. These are the worlds best settings for any lg oled tv. Try it and prepare to be shocked. There will be a huge difference in color, clarity and 3d pop. I tried it on my c1. Please try these settings bro. You will be shocked at how good the color can get. I know it may be oversaturated for you. But it will give you an idea or what the tv is capable of. If you drop the color to around 45. These settings won't be oversaturated though. So try them and let me know.
G4 ALL DAY EVERY DAY!!!! The G4 processing and motion is MUCH better than the Damsung. The G4 also has a lot more adjustment modes so you can fine tune it to fit your eye. It's a no brainer contest. G4 baby!
Does the screen coating on the s95D look grainy up close ( like when the entire screen is white)? I have a g9 57" and the screen coating looks insanely grainy when the screen is entirely white. I plan to buy a 55" G4 or S95D for my PC desk setup. I like the 3D pop but I also want the most vibrant and brightest display so this is hard choice to make.
I’d like to see a comparison of Dolby Vision content on the G4 vs HDR10 content on the S95D. Preferably stills from one movie on Netflix. Since I’m really curious if Dolby Vision would be a dealbreaker.
Definitely think in that range you should target a Samsung Q990 doesn’t matter what year they are pretty much all great very small differences from year to year just find the best deal I sometimes see them for around your budget Black Friday deals will be soon I’ll be posting any deals I find on it in my community tab.
Ooof, really hate to say... gotta say I prefer the G4 in almost all of these shots. The pink tint (not sure if that's default or not) isn't great. But beyond that I kind of like the way they handle brightness there more. I've been watching this video on both an OLED panel and my Bravia 9. The G4 just looks a tiny bit sharper and definitely feels like it has some more depth, imo. As for motion, I'm not really worried about that on any OLED. The panel technology does most of the work it seems usually. On miniLEDs you tend to have to worry a whole lot more, because it takes some advanced processing not to look like ghosted, blurry poop. And even the Bravia 9, as good as it is, fails to come close to one of the top OLEDs in terms of motion clarity. Particularly in game mode, It's BFI implementation (whether due to VA panel flaws or just lack of processing power able to be given to it in this particular chip iteration) just doesn't come close to anything the OLEDs achieve with motion clarity. I've seen like the G1, for example feel almost as good as a high-end CRT in it's 120hz BFI mode (I've heard the CX is even better, but never got a chance to get that panel). I do hope someone brings back 120hz BFI on an OLED panel at some point in game mode. Especially with how much brighter they can get these days.
@@TechWithKG I have a floor to ceiling window that faces west and sunlight creeps into the room around noon till evening but I don't think it actually reaches the TV which is being placed on the wall directly across from the window. Not 100% sure if the sunlight reaches the TV spot, since I'm not in the room 24/7 as the apartment is still under construction and going through QC.
@@TechWithKG I'm sort of leaning towards the S95D since I want to pair it with the Samsung 990 sound bar. If I go with the G4 TV I heard there are some compatibility issues when connecting to the Samsung soundbar sometimes. Also I'm looking to get 2 TV's, one in the living room which I mentioned earlier and one for the office room which is going to be on the 2nd floor on the loft style half floor. The wall on the loft floor where the 2nd TV is going to be placed has a smaller wall surface area so I'm thinking I can go with a 65 in for the living room and a 55 in for the office. And that 65 in + 55 in samsung is going to cost almost the same as only one 65 in LG G4. Money is not an issue but just thinking of the costs logically, plus I don't actively watch TV at all atm so these TVs are mostly for guests and casual use on my end, mostly on my PC gaming and trading.
Sounds like it could be ideal for the S95D, the only thing you want to watch out for is direct light of any kind hitting your screen or ambient lighting being on that will show a diffused reflection that is distracting.
My LG G4 the os sometimes freezes clicking on icons with cursor does nothing. Have to turn off then turn on again. Also the web browser sometimes crashes, the tv shuts down and restarts then I get message that browser shut down and it gives me the option whether I want to open the browser from where it was previously. Have latest update installed. Pretty disappointing really.
Thanks for the comparison, KG! Could you maybe upload a combined video with direct captures from those gaming scenes in HDR, so that we can use it in local stores to look at those scenes on the TVs ourselves of which you say that they look better on the QD-OLED?
I don't have a HDR capture card to capture direct feed from a game console or else I totally would, theres a few channels on youtube with HDR gaming clips you could probably find a few that way.
Biggest difference is the color-fringing of the triangular subpixel layout on the QD-OLED that you will notice if you sit somewhat close to your TV for gaming. Depends on your personal use case but it‘s an instant dealbreaker for me and I‘m glad that LG finally got the game mode right and added 144 Hz.
@@ledooni lol. I sit very close in front of my 77-inch S95D. No problems in this regard. Some people really conjure up problems lol. In such a case, my advice is not to buy any TV at all. Jesus. Third generation QD-OLED and the color fringing has turned out to be an absolute non-issue. QD-OLED's color volume and gamut is superior, those who prefer to get hung up on non-issues and go with the inferior WOLED panel instead - go ahead. I will never understand.
And the clear winner is the LG G4, people will rethink and regret once their S95D is in their livingroom with the sun light hitting the display and lose all the contrast and rises the blacklevel too. At the end the LG G4 has the best picture quality in any daytime period
because LG makes woled panels. "it's clearly superior", doesn't look like it in this video. They look very close and the s95d looks bad with the lights on. The color and contrast go down significantly. Watch RTING's comparison of the g4 and s95d. RTING's isn't biased and the difference is huge.
@interistapazzo1.9.0.8 crazy thing is that if Sony came out with another QD-OLED panel this year, they would beat LG G4 just like they did the LG G3. I think people just don't like Samsung. Even in Best Buy people are still choosing the A95L over the G4.
My Samsung S95C die just 1 week after the 12 mon warranty. If you are planning to buy Samsung, get the extended warranty or stay away. Otherwise LG has a much better quality control and 5 yr panel warranty is the way to go.
I also can see clearly from your gaming footage 10:38 the typical green tinted yellow color from WOLED 🤢🤮🤮 only QD-OLED can deliver proper yellow tones.
S95D ABL kicks in a lot, but to the average consumer, they probably won't notice it. The S95D is a great TV but it pushes too much heat. You'll have to keep your AC on 24/7. Returning it for the QN900D.
Bro the lg can get close to the qd oleds color. The main problem is the color space and the fact that lg oleds run at a very cold temperature. Here is how you fix it. First take your remote and point the cursor to any picture mode setting, now type in the secret code 1113111. Change color space on sdr to bt2020. Make sure you are on native color space. Now also go ahead and enable the reduce blue light filter. You need to be on expert dark space. Turn off peak brightness. Then go in to the white balance, set it to warm 50. Set the color upgrade to high. Also go down to the blue and green and set them to minus 50. Then go to contrast enhancer and set it to high. Turn off auto genre selection if its on. Then finally go to gamma and set it to bt1886 or 2.4. Finally increase the sharpness and turn on ai picture pro. These are the worlds best settings for any lg oled tv. Try it and prepare to be shocked. There will be a huge difference in color, clarity and 3d pop. I tried it on my c1. Please compare the g4 now to the qd oleds with these settings. Please try these settings bro. You will be shocked at how good the color can get. I know it may be oversaturated for you. But it will give you an idea or what the tv is capable of. If you drop the color to around 45. These settings won't be oversaturated though. So try them and let me know.
I love Samsung, I've s95b and would love to upgrade to s95d or s95e but but the TV has annoyed me with lack of dts support, I am fine without Dolby vision but soo many movies have dts. I do plug shield TV directly to q950a but even though it says it supports dts, it doesn't. I have jbl bar 9.1 and have heard difference in dts HD MA and true HD. Dts is a clear clear winner for my ears. But I think Samsung has turned it off.
I don't think the lack of colored brightness is due to tone mapping but to how W-OLED works as this kind of panel has a white sub pixel that has to blend with the other weakened sub pixels whereas a QD-OLED does not rely on a white sub pixel to have enough brightness as all three sub pixels are already bright enough on their own.
Well when I use professional mode toggle vs just having it set to default I get a ton of color back so it’s not as simple as it being a W-OLED. There’s still cases where it will be the QD OLED difference but yeah LG has very aggressive tone mapping which causes it to lose color even when it’s not the most demanding content.
Which is why I would say the color difference is mostly due to the content itself rather than tone mapping this time around. You may get some colors back when using an other mode but the brightness might also become darker as well, of course let's remove the raised blacks out of the equation. I am referring to the color volume aspect which measures color accuracy in regard to various levels of luminance/brightness rather than doing it on a single level like we traditionally do. In short, that measures how bright a single color could go. The white sub-pixel has some strengths and weaknesses compared to a classic RGB sub pixels solution like QD-OLED panels, the most obvious one is when the subject on the screen is bright but not very much colored as that white sub pixel doesn't need to blend much with the other ones and could then go full blown, which is why a W-OLED panel could go brighter in those specific subjects like you show here with white clouds, sand or a white rock on a bright sunlight, the sun itself etc... Whereas when you have some bright colored subjects that white sub pixel then has to dim in order to not loose too much accuracy when combined to those other dimmer RGB sub pixels which is why in that specific case a quantum dot doped sub pixel like those on Samsung's displays will then be able to display a brighter colored subject on our screen which is what I could see on your examples thankfully well recorded in HDR. I'm watching your video on an 13" AMOLED (RGB) display that could go up to 500 nits in a 100% window so I can tell when the Samsung has reached its limits like there at 13:26, the LG can't get that yellow tone right since it has to blend the weak red and the weak green sub pixels together but can afford to be much brighter thanks to the addition of the white sub pixel since the sun itself is essentially a giant bright white dot even in this orange scene.
No he’s just salty I get more clicks than him even though he’s got a larger channel 😂 . You don’t understand calibration? I wouldn’t worry about it neither does he.
Quantum loves to hear himself talk. Someone could give him an objective 3 page response on why the G4 is better and he would still insult the person and say he’s right and they’re wrong. That guy is a serious narcissist.
Really great comparison. It looks really close on RU-vid, does it look this close in person? What are the exact settings you used, did you just set TVs in filmmaker mode or were there some tweaks to get the best out of them without any major calibration?
Yup just filmmaker mode out of the box but I used content that will let it show its strengths in those mode, FMM and movie mode get bad reputations but they actually are very capable modes closest thing to reference without getting real calibration done. For those that prefer a cooler more saturated look the standard modes on these TVs are solid for that.
The Samsung can get slightly better colors in some scenes, but that's about all it has over the LG and it's not in all content it does that. The G4 is a more advanced looking picture to me. It looks like it has more detail and the motion is more pleasant to me. G4 is a more complete package and seems more premium from both a hardware and software standpoint. Too bad the 83 is so expensive.
I understand the g4 looks better on whatever camera is being used here but guaranteed 100% QDOLED is the better experience. You can brighten the whites up and everything else and these foolish bandwagon fans know no difference. The color dullness is what makes the WOLED inferior. QDOLED is the more entertaining experience and able to accurately hit more colors bc it can.
Camera being used is a Black Magic Cinema Camera 6K producing a 12 bit raw HDR video file. The experience is mostly subjective based on what people prefer if you want more image fidelity then you go G4 if you value color brightness then you go S95D. Really tons of ways to approach it.
You left off Dolby vision. You might not think it's that important, but you didn't even mention that Samsung doesn't support it at all. Other reviewers have been impressed with LG's filmmaker version of it. I think you underestimate people who buy either of these sets. While they aren't likely to get them professionally calibrated, they will try different modes to see which they like best. LG even has an option to show you different images, and based on your choices, it will set the tv up to your liking across different content. In gaming mode again, no Dolby Vision option for Samsung might make a difference in some games. You did mention the warranty difference but you didn't mention why that is a big deal. Namely image retention/burn in. Depending on the content you mainly watch, the risk will vary, but regardless, LG is a lot more confident in its panels. That should give anyone considering these two tvs a big reason to choose the LG.
I think people are aware that Samsung doesn’t have Dolby Vision at this point, it’s really not something I believe people should factor in over other important picture quality aspects or meaningful features because the visual difference and end result in regards to HDR impact is negligible in most content examples. I test it every year. As for DV gaming that’s botched on LG and no games even really have true support for it, dv gaming is definitely not worth talking about.
G4 looks the better is 95% of scenes here and unfortunately won’t ever buy Samsung unless they finally add Dolby Vision (which they won’t and I don’t care if it doesn’t matter, I want it at these prices) and Samsung OTA updates don’t degrade their TV’s 6 months after release
Yikes. Feel like the LG has something similar to Sonys Reality Creation - and it’s jacked up super high. Very processed looking - people who love the hyper-modern trend in tech and entertainment will prob love it.
You are correct. they have undefeatable processing this year like sony and they have def improved their details. People always complained Sony was more detailed, it's about even now. Depends what you like, as you said.
curious to see what samsung will do next yeaf many actually like the s95d for the matte finish for there needs and many dont so if sales arent to good theu can just release next year the s95e with a glossy screen lol
Good start of the video but I recommend not having big bright static white text anywhere on screen as it makes OLEDs dim quickly. I stopped watching because it kept dimming my A80J.
