If women are making less then men, why aren't they 100% of the labour force? Or Sarah do you mean to tell us companies would rather pay higher wages to decrease their profit margin?
They make less than men because of the perception that men are more competent - hence men generally have the advantage in hiring. As your brilliant display of logic shows, men can be intellectually inferior as well.
Aca Demy Nice, you put forth your positions like a feminist. Nothing more than bravado covered by self loathing with a dash of navel gazing. Yes I have seen your lil vid. I do agree with your point about it being hilarious, just not for the same reasons you do. I'll leave you to your Boomhauer pseudo-science strategy of begging everything that is double x for a piece of tail. (Something I and most guys leave behind when we become adults.)
demz taters How cute demz, unfortunately the wage gap myth has been debunked many, many, many times. In fact women under 30 who are not married are actually earning more than men in that age group content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html
demz taters Moron, perhaps women should earn more because they require smaller office furniture and space? Or the other way around? In fact, pay rates are determined by the almost exclusively female human resources profession. Ask them.
I actually did the math and a hospital with 10 active doctors would make a profit over 1.1 mil $/year if the wage gap would be true, by replacing all male doctors with female ones. I know someone would say that they don't care, but any competent accountant would see this discrepancy and find the best way to generate profit, because is in his best interest.
0:25 Look at the bottom "this is an average for all women. the wage gap varies across professions." wait lets look at that last bit closer... "the wage gap varies across professions."
***** If a male or female are deemed fit for a certain job and are hired they both deserve the same amount of pay based on the ability to perform this job. Doesn't matter what job. And that's what's the issue here. Women are being payed less for the same type of job. Doesn't matter if you make up a theoretical job where a certain woman gets payed more, the wage gap is statistically prooven. Your apologetics are strawman arguments.
***** And I stated it's a strawman argument missrepresenting the issue of the wage gap. Statistics are equalized based on qualifications and ability to perform a certain job.
Jan F Actually, males tend to work longer hours, and take overtime, while women tend to have shorter work hours. Also, there is not too much women in STEM fields.
pay gap is the average of all money payed as salaries it does not account for different jobs better paying more dangerous jobs or the fact that women work 7% less hours less men
Women gained equal rights years ago, there is no "gender gap", the reason you are hearing about it so much more is because of the US election coming up in 2 years with Hillary Clinton.
The pay gap is basically taking all of the US and generalizing it. They took the total median for both male and female and compared them, without looking at what jobs they had in the first place. Men are proven to be more likely to take riskier higher paying jobs, while females take lower paying jobs like teaching. There are so many factors missing from the equation here.
"We typically earn just 78 cents to dollar a man makes" the key word here is "earn", the equal pay laws ensures that men and women are both "payed" the same salaries when working at the same positions within the same field of work.
If the 'wage gap' was such a thing, why isn't there 100% employment among women? If I could get the same performance, for less money from a certain group, legally, I would only hire people from that group, and I'm a fucking moron. Why aren't the smart CEOs around the country doing this? They could be making SO MUCH MONEY.
Thankfully there are legal hurdles to blatantly hired all one sex. There are many historic points what when women were hired pay when down, like teaching and later manufacturing during the war effort.
Jolene Chandler Steven is talking about modern era and you reply with things that happened 100 years ago? Can't you find a better argument than that? I guess there isn't any after all. Those "misogynist pigs" may have a point about this whole wage gap thing.
Džoni Wajzmen because steven has made an assumption that a significant amount of employers would rather hire males than females, and intentionally incurring an opportunity cost, which feminists claim is true. if there is any major reason they would rather hire men over women, it's because women tend to have 9 months to consider, which puts them at a disadvantage. blame god then, for giving you 9 months of maternity. the employer merely cares about the money in the end.
It is illegal for an employer to pay people less for doing the exact same job because of their gender. No one is stupid enough to do that they would get sued out the ass.
I thought the US was a 1st world country, but after seeing some of these comments I feel that most people are living in a 3rd world country were equality is disrespected, were men think they are better cause of what someone did before and so on. In my country we try to be more equal, even if we have to walk a long road, but many of our stories are about women who were brave and did something awesome alongside men or alone. This needs to happen fast and everywhere. And just one thing, I do not support feminism, it is almost the same has what it is happening now with men so I do not support it. I support equality and the rights to be human.
Wages are not earnings, it's illegal to pay women less than a man for the same job. They simply work less hours and go into different fields, that's what account for the "earnings" gap. The wage gap is actual three percent, which is within the margin of error. If women were actually getting paid less some feminist lawyers would be having a field day and corporations would never hire men. LOL Sarah, you're so funny
The 78c on a dollar figure is a myth. There is plenty of research on the differences in earnings between men and women, and the more variables you control for, the smaller the supposed gap gets. Most research at the moment indicates that it's somewhere between 95c to 102c on the dollar. Basically, it's parity with an uncertainty of a few cents.
ArtemisAmos The Consad report (www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf) is a good meta-analysis. It's pretty long and technical, but they provide very accessible discussion on their findings. They put it at about 93-95c on the dollar. "Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers. "
There is no wage gap, there is an earnings gap. There difference? The earnings gap is there because people make different choices, such as the amount of hours one works, what the job entails rather than just looking at the field, experience people have, etc. These are the same reasons for why men are paid differently from each other. You won't get payed more for being a man.
Well, you could start by working the same job, with the same position and the same hours, and be just as aggressive in asking for a raise. That would be a good start.
mcgaugh57 Yeah, men spend what, 5 mins, women spend 9 months + 18 years... Men couldnt even stand 5 minutes of "labor pains" women endure 12-36 HOURS of pain...
Their worker capital tends to be lower due to the realities that come with a deficit of experience and connections that come with less time at work (due likely to children). Thus they will be paid less. Value is met with value. If you are less valuable as an employee, you will be paid less. If you are more valuable as an employee, you will be paid more. Employers don't base pay on what is or is not in your pants! That is insane, and it reveals a fundamental ignorance of simple economics.
***** Because their worker capital tends to be lower. Which is a result of their upbringing and choices they make throughout their lives. Why do I have to explain this? How is this not obvious to everyone? Are you that immature? Are you that willfully blind? People aren't equal. Decisions impact outcome. Gender impacts lives. Skin color impacts life experiences, which results in a lower worker value. It's not racism. It's reality.
The feminist party line re the gender wage gap is wrong. For starters, no two jobs and no two employees are exactly identical. Like many people in entertainment, SS sincerely believes that party line. hence she is mistaken not lying. In this video, SS also slyly reveals that she prefers uncircumcised men (her current BF is British). I strongly doubt that she is making that up for comic effect. Moreover, quite a few American women have revealed this preference in YT and in social media generally.
Ok, I'm going out on a limb here, hope you understand this. In my example you A:) Could have thought I was self-centered (as you did) or B:) Thought, yea his workplace has alot of females with high paying jobs (these jobs are equal to mine by the way). So, if I feel I am being dismissed at my current job, because well, I have a Vajayjay.. maybe I should stop whinning and look for a job were I will be respected and paid well. Because, hell where HoustonJDD works, they are majority! So there are jobs out there! YAY ME! I hate people who won't do for themselves. Don't feel like your being treated well? Pay is to low? GET OUT, find something else. If you don't want to because of blah blah excuse, then SHUT UP. Show me you want to, and I will help. Just saying.
houstonjdd I wouldn't call it being self-centered, I would call it a logic failure. It is very common to use anecdotal evidence as a representation for the world writ large. The simple response would be, when you are caught failing at logic, to acknowledge it and move on. Instead you double down on it, because, being an idiot is somehow countered when you reinforce an idiotic position? It is spelled "whining", btw.
I get what she's saying but... isn't there this whole idea that women shouldn't have to pay for anything on dates? Yeah... maybe that's why you earn less on average, cuz you expect dudes to pay for everything.
lednerg $60 meal, $30 movie, that shit is fucking expensive. No, that doesn't even anything out, the man is loosing HUGE amounts of money to the women.
Serious Question: If women get paid less how come most companies don't just hire a majority of women and pay them less so they can make $$$ as that is a businesses main priority?? Not hating just wondering if this is actually true
Because it isn't really true. If anything, there might be a pay gap of close to six cents, give or take a few. Most statistics about the wage gap aren't exactly true. Every time it gets brought up, economists prove it's wrong again and again.
Because of priming and stereotypes. Would you hire people that were stereotyped as weaker and not as intelligent, even if you could pay them less, especially in jobs where strength or intelligence are required?
***** Pfff, look to the past. Women got tons of jobs working for cheap before. Immigrants who could barely speak English but work for pennies took over the workforce before. Companies will do anything to increase profits.
megamaxmax4 yeah, gender roles still dictate a lot of things, especially in the majority of your "immigrants who can barely speak English" societies. The correct English term you were looking for is women, by the way, not "females". Telling.
Hasn't this been disproven in that women just work in lower paying jobs like hospitality for $40-50k And men work in higher-paying jobs like flying out to oil rigs, and putting their lives on the line more often than women, for a $80-90k yearly paycheck
***** No it hasn't been disproven. Women do indeed make less money, on average, for the same job. On another hand, people have proposed different explanations than pure discrimination as to why women get less money for the same work than men, like the fact that women often the care givers of a family forcing them to work less hours or even to quit their job more often than men. Statistical analysis have generally failed to completely explain the gap in this fashion, but they do explain some of it. I recommend this consad study for one such analysis. consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf There is probably still something like a 10 to 15% gap attributable to discrimination which is a lot less than the 30% frequently cited. This can actually be tested more directly. One experiment you can do is to take two randomized groups of employers and show them the curriculum of a potential employee, all identical except for the name which would be typically female for one group and typically male for the other. You can then ask to rate how competent this person is and how much they should be payed. Such as this. gap.hks.harvard.edu/science-faculty%E2%80%99s-subtle-gender-biases-favor-male-students
Mark Waugh Kamizushi Akinari The fact is men don't see women as equals. Women are treated as unable of clear-minded rationale and having less capability to deal with hard-hitting scenarios. And you see it everywhere, women are complaining about problems, and a man comes along who can just solve the problems without a word of affection towards them. Before women are able to drop their feelings and become as disaffected as men, there will be no equality. And going by the way women love and want care and compassion much more than men, it won't happen any time soon.
***** What you just described is called a prejudice. You can't assume that because someone is female she will be more emotional than male. And It's not about how men think of women. If you look at the second study I cited, it shows there is virtually no difference in the pay gap when the employers is female. Gender-roles are a problem with society in general.
I work in an office of mostly woman. We were at lunch one day and they were all complaining about the hardship of being woman to which I said, "I will be thinking about that when I am dying 5 years before you".
blahblahbleh You're saying you would want to die 5 YEARS earlier just cause you're making a little less than men and supposedly being opressed. Holy fucking shit what is the value of life to you?
blahblahbleh Well they're more than welcome to die earlier and go into tough jobs that pay well aren't they, oh no wait they don't like like because they don't like hard work!
Seize&Deceased so you're saying you would rather live for a longer time being unequal to the opposite sex, which means not just earning less money but also enduring the rest of the social inequalities women face today, rather than living a life that is essentially superior? what is the fucking value of life to you? more shitty years are better than less better year? theres no logic in THAT. ALSO people die every day so just because someone is a woman doesn't mean they are guaranteed more years than men and if you're a man maybe you should cut down on the fucking bacon and you might get another year in your inherently privileged life. Geez. You know what the number one predator is for a woman? a man. you know what mans number one predatory is? heart disease! so yeah id take the option of heart disease because thats something that can be medically fixed. (and btw i didn't come up with that statement, a man did so its not just women who feel that way)
@@CheerJaja As a woman, i think we are more privileged. Tell me one thing, if women have a harder life in usa... Then why are 80% Suicide Victims Men? Its high time that men are the ones that are more oppressed. And we are the ones privileged.... Im happy being a woman. Wouldnt wanna be a man. Ever.
this is hugely offensive to trans people! just to further your 'feminist' reputation, making a mockery of trans people is not feminist, its just plain disrespectful. I figured she would know making fun of any lgtb people isn't ok the way she has spoken for marriage equality. this is bulshit!
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are we now realizing the LGBT community is just being used as useful idiots? No? You'll need 8 years of Hillary before it sinks in? Well, Michael and I have front row seats! And the popcorn is only two days old! Woooooooooooo! Progress!!! Man those crickets are loud over at the perpetually offended section of America.
To my understanding the wage gap is judged differently depending on the country the research is coming from, in the US the wage gap is observed as an average over a person/s lifetime, while in the UK it's judged on the hourly wages of any given time. I take it Sarah is using the US research since she mentions the lost earning over the life of a woman. While I have no arguments against two people who are equally qualified being paid the same rate. I don't see how one making more in their life actually means the other is paid less. Does that make sense? If a man and woman make noticeably different choices in their relationships, educations, and career goals, yet on paper they hold the same qualifications and somehow there's a wage gap. Then I think it's more likely the choices a person makes. Who works more hours, who takes the more difficult jobs, who has more responsibility for taking care of the family(financially or physically/emotionally) , and so forth?
***** What a load of misogynistic bs bubba. That is a cut and paste from some anti feminist site. Here is a factual cut and paste moron: Women earn less when they get the same education. The first year out of college is the prime time for women and men to make comparable earnings: they are young, childless, and have just as much inexperience as their male counterparts. But women make less than men in their first year after graduating, even when factors such as schools, grades, majors, and others are taken into account. That educational gap will follow them no matter how much more higher learning they invest in: at any educational level, a man with the same degree earns more, on average. Women earn less in virtually every job. It’s true that women tend to cluster in certain fields and men in others, and the ones women dominate usually pay less. But in virtually every job category tracked by the BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, the average woman earns less than the average man. Women only make more in three occupations for which there is adequate data to compare men’s and women’s earnings - they lose out in about 115 others. Even in those low-paid jobs that tend to be dominated by women, such as nurses, teachers, and secretaries, men earn more. And even in male-dominated industries like manufacturing, finance, construction, mining, and agriculture, women earn less. Women earn less thanks to discrimination. It’s fair to say that not all of the gap is due to discrimination. Certainly women are clustered in low-wage work - they are about two-thirds of the country’s minimum wage workers - and often have to interrupt their careers to care for family members, all of which impacts their earnings. But even when various factors like these are taken into account, the entire gap doesn’t disappear. When the Government Accountability Office last looked at the gap, it couldn’t explain 20 percent of the disparity in pay between men and women, something that could be at least in part caused by discrimination. A more recent study by economists Francine Blau and Lawrence Kahn found that while experience, occupation, and industry explain much of the gap, there is still more than 40 percent of it that remains unexplained, the part that could be chalked up to discrimination. We can also look to the real world to see instances where it’s clear that outright discrimination is still at play, such as the details of a recent class action lawsuit against the country’s largest jewelry store, where female employees across the country and with substantial experience say they were still paid less than less qualified men. Women earn less when they balance children and careers. So what to make of the fact that about 10 percent of the wage gap can be attributed to women having different work histories than men, or in other words, being much more likely to take time off or quit altogether to care for children? Some women will always prefer reducing their schedules or staying at home with their kids. But our country is also unique in making it difficult for both parents to remain in the workforce, a burden that disproportionately falls to women, a good number of whom may not want to leave their jobs. In fact, our growth of women in the labor force has been falling behind other developed countries thanks to our lack of paid family leave and child care assistance. Plus there’s evidence that paid leave and affordable, consistent child care help boost women’s wages. The choice to be a caretaker may not always be such a free choice.
I broke my ass driving a truck for 30 years at night in all kinds of weather in New York City. I never saw any females come down. I sold vacuum cleaners door to door. None of the females were interested. I did computer work a lot of times overnight. No females were interested. When affirmative action was legislated in the seventies guys like me had to stand aside so minorities could go to work. They didn't want to do it and never came back and none of them were women. I see many many examples when a woman has difficulty she turns to a man. A man can't get a date with a woman without a proper job to paid the bills and support her. Lastly, in times of difficulty women continue to turn to their femininity and ask for support and there's always a guy standing by ready to give it. I'm not convinced.
But being trans wouldn't help you to make more money, if anything on average you would probably make less since, for example, many trans people get fired from their jobs when they come out (and can even legally be fired in many states simply for being trans). What a divisive and unhelpful video to make.
PhillipHunsberger Technically yes, but the study is continuing to shrink the number down by figuring out what exactly is causing these differences. For example, the 78 cents to a dollar is taken by the median of all males and females in the US, regardless of job or situation. Naturally a generalization like that can be explained with such things as how males tend to take riskier jobs, such as construction where injuries are more common. While females have been shown to take jobs like teaching, which are rewarding but not the highest paying. They are still figuring out what goes where and how it all works, so it is possible the gap might turn out to not exist at all.
2:23 "...to promoting flexible work hours" ..... *well there's your problem!* (I'm assuming that doesn't mean *more* of them hours). Cognitive dissonance in action.
Right, but i think she is actually a smart person with too big of an ego, which when applied to her crazy camp of new age feminism (not sure how long she thought this way), causes her to look like a dumb nut.
Wow the amount of people on here who actually think women dont get paid less is hilarious. Yes your boss whos a women is getting paid more than you but if she was a man or if there is another man in the same position than her he probably is getting paid slightly more. The "gap" is closing but it is still there.
megamaxmax4 It's not as big on average but it's not fair to say that it's gone completely The fields that his video focuses on are the ones where it is much larger.
This woman was a boss who earned less than the men under her www.help.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Sleeman.pdf Most jobs forbid people from discussing their salaries...ever wonder why?
vanessa ray There are a lot of sources, such as the CONSAD report, but what people normally don't mention is that when factors such as job history or interest are accounted for, there is still a pay gap, on average or 3-7%, as reported by them. It's not around "6 cents" by any means though, and it's far larger in typically male dominated fields, like doctors or lawyers.
People are payed based on what they do, how efficient they do it and results, sexism is wrong and I think people should get payed fairly, but theres more too it than JUST being a woman. I live in Canada and Women actually get chosen over men for a lot of jobs, I think women are over victimizing themselves, its all dependent on Career Choices, How reliable you are and how much effort you give, unless of course the boss is Sexist, which can be a Man or a Woman, which is illegal, Do you really think people wouldn't catch on and file lawsuits if women were actually being cheated out of this much money?
dude. you just said you're from canada, so maybe you don't really know whats going on over here in the US but do you really think people would be making up a the wage gap that women are suffering from in the US? President Obama even stated that women are still making .77 cents to every mans dollar! bills have been tried to get passed for equal pay and our government has failed us. Women don't want people to pity us. we simply want to be paid the same amount a man is getting paid for the same job. and no, wages are not based off of merit. even if they were, do you really think the women fighting tooth and nail for equal pay are some how lazy workers?
chinnyrox95 I do a lot of research, I'm not talking for Canada, I'm talking about Americas issues, and theres a lot of American issues I've researched, but for this one specifically, if women got payed less for being a woman they could sue because its sexist and illegal, henceforth, theres more too it than just "because I'm a woman" theres a lot of variables behind this that you don't understand, like the psychological elements behind it, no one seems to comprehend them at all. Go read the rest of the comments on this video, a lot of them are quite credible.
blahblahbleh Saying that women make 77 cents to every dollar that a man makes is one of the most misleading statements you can make. The only way to accurately relay the government statistic you are referring to is: "The median woman's income in the United States is 77% of a man's" This statistic does not take into account important factors such as experience, job choice, maternity leave, number of hours worked, etc.
Sarah Silverman is absolutely right there should be no gender pay gap. SilverMAN has a net worth of $10 million therefore every male comedian should be worth the same regardless of experience, education, productivity, talent, ticket sales... you know all those sexist shackles society puts on women.
You just watched and celebrated a deeply sexist video. Congrats :P (and I adore Silverman, she's just wrong here, and I'm not enemy of sexism in humour. Go right ahead and mock me as a man ^^... it should just be equally okay to mock everyone)
***** Amusing. You're sexist AND a hypocrite. Being lectured at immature emotional outbursts by a feminist might be infuriating, but I mostly pity hate filled people like you. You're the reason feminism is falling to shit, and no amount of Silvermans or Emma Watsons are gonna redeem it, because they refuse to deal with the likes of you. Go back to your echochamber so you can commiserate over how being called "bossy" once when you were 7 ruined your life.
RR Moon If they hire illegal immigrants to save money (because they're cheaper than legal residents), they would hire women more often than men to save money... but if they're hiring men more often they'd be missing on an opportunity to save money, right? So if they're not doing this, maybe it's because the wage gap doesn't exist >.> Isn't that what you meant? :^\
Males and females who are otherwise identical (i.e. same seniority, same overtime, same profession, same paternity leave, etc. etc. etc.) do make the same amount of money. The assertion that its societies fault that women choose to go into teaching instead of banking, or choose to focus on their families instead of putting in overtime (on average) is plain sexist.
You seriously think people studying things like the wage gap don't account for occupation? The point, as was made in this video, is that women working as doctors, lawyers, teachers, miners, and tailors, as some examples, make 78 cents to the dollar that men do for the same job. The same job, not different jobs.
Silverizael "You seriously think people studying things like the wage gap don't account for occupation?" They do. What they find is that there is no gender gap when all factors like those are taken into account. The reason we see these 78% type figures is from people not understanding the findings of these studies. They see a figure, think 'oh that's horrible' and go spreading it around, not understanding that it was the figure BEFORE all the other factors were considered. It's done to suit an agenda in a lot of cases, too. Pluck the worst number you can find, scaremonger it into headlines. It sells.
Silverizael I think that people seriously studying the wage gap account for those things (ex. www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf). The fact that actual economists account for this doesn't mean that the politically-motivated morons behind this video did. The 78% number comes from the raw data before taking everything into account; anyone who sites it as a general number is either being knowingly fraudulent or is simply misinformed.
Silverizael You're just assuming that because people in the field account for those things (which they do; which is why they come to the conclusion that the wage gap is negligible at best), the people behind this video took it into account. They didn't.
Can someone link me to a legitimate study that shows that women really do get paid that much less for the same job, same experience, same hours, etc that is recent? It would be really cool to have and I would really appreciate it. I am surprised with all these videos claiming this but I can never find their sources.
I get the point, and I DO think men and women should get equal wages for equal jobs and work hours, BUT this comment isn't about the point she's trying to make, it's about what she does in the process. She chooses sex change as a "funny" way to explain the age gap, but completely forgets there are people out there who undergo sex changes, FOR ENTIRELY DIFFERENT REASONS! People who go through such a procedure have to be thoroughly physchologically tested, because for some reason society doesn't believe their word, and actually IDENTIFY as a man and feel deeply unhappy with their female stash. Also in no way you can "select" your dick or will a surgical dick even look and feel like a real biological dick (it is made out of an arm graft and still looks rather... crude). This video plays into the prejudice against transpeople that is widely prevalent in our culture, and thus I think Sarah made quite a mistake with making this, and using transgenders as a tasteless way to joke around and tell a story, while it is VERY serious business!
Agree with most everything except for phalloplasty looking "crude." I've seen many remarkable results. The pictures on the net aren't representative of the final product, as this surgery occurs in three stages. Typically, the photos I've seen on the net are in stage one or two.
Such a great message. I fully support Sarah in her fight for equal pay for equal work. I am thankful every day to work in a smaller company that takes equal pay and equal rights seriously!
yes cause only A real fighter for humen right A real soft hearted humenist would male light of the suffering of other an make refrence to swiming in tear only A loving open minded feminist could be so humane not.
Women: Good news! If you do the same work, you get paid the same as a man. If you don't choose to do the same work as a man that accepts a job with higher risk of his life for his job, does more work than you, or chooses a job with less family flexibility, there's a pretty good chance that you'll get paid less on average. More good news! - It's your choice to take on a career with more risk or less family flexibility, not an obligation. Bottom line: To fix this wage gap.. what should we "fix"? Should we not pay jobs with higher risk more? Should we not pay workers based on productivity? Should we not offer higher pay for jobs with less family flexibility? Should we adopt communism? Now that we've given this "issue" awareness... what's the solution?
Oh yeah.. for women who achieve a higher household income by doing tremendous work at home to let their husband focus on their career.. should they not be compensated for the work they do? The higher household income is justified IMHO.
the only thing worse than sarah silverman telling jokes, is sarah silverman being political. and the only thing worse than that, is sarah silverman singing.
sorry this is because of maternity leave, taking years off to have children, you're never going to close this "gap" because men simply work more hours. (FEMINISTS DO NOT GET BUTTHUTY IM STATING THE TRUTH, IM NOT SAYING WOMEN DESERVE THIS NOR AM I SAYING ITS WOMENS FAULT)
I loved this video. What I love even more are all the men bitching in the comments. "wahh feminazis, wahh wage gap is a myth!".Cry more please dudes, its funny to watch. But seriously $11,000 lost due to the gap is really mind blowing. Don't worry ladies, as long as we keep fighting, things will change in the future, I have hope!
Džoni Wajzmen Why should a woman make less because of maternity leave? We should have paid maternity/paternity leave in this country. Every other first world country does. Also, why do women work less hours? Because they are more likely to take jobs with flexible hours so they can be at home more. Why are they more likely to be at home more? Because our society generally places the responsibility of raising children on mothers more than fathers. Do you see how sexism is created by our society? That is what feminism is trying to change.
No, no I am not saying it is workplace discrimination, and yes, obviously it's a woman's choice to stay home more. It's just that I think women feel like they have to stay home more, and that there is more pressure for them to. Sometimes it's not so much a choice as a "well one parent needs to be home, so I guess it might as well be me..." Our society is getting better about giving both men and women more flexible schedules so they can balance family and work. But, I know my mom quit her job to be a stay-at-home mom for a few years. She made just as much as my father, and yes, it was her "choice" to quit. But why did she quit? Because my dad wasn't taking equal responsibility for the children, partly maybe because his job was less flexible, partly maybe because that is just the way things are. Women, statistically, do more housework even when they work the same amount as their husbands. So, "choice" is relative.
This is a very angry response. Yes, if a man WANTS to stay home and take care of his kids, he should be allowed to. I don't EXPECT a man to do that, and no man should expect that of his wife. I am not saying the USA is like a Muslim country, obviously, but there is room for improvement. The entire idea is that men and women should be free to do what they want, See what you said? "A good husband provides of his family." Well, no. Parents provide for their family together. And let me tell you, in 40% of households today, the woman is the primary earner. Why would you want your wife to make less money just because she is a woman? It would hurt YOU and YOUR FAMILY, especially is she is making more money than you do! I do not think women are superior to men, they are equal. That's why we deserve equal pay.
Džoni Wajzmen I think both parents should get maternity/paternity leave to help care for their child. An infant is a full-time job. And raising an infant is in no way "sitting on your ass"--ask anyone with a newborn!
EqualRightsAdvocate OK, there is a logic problem here. Yes, 40% of women make more than their husbands. They do not work the SAME JOBS as their husbands do they? Women often get paid less for having the same position as a man. For example, if a woman was a manager of a store and she gets paid less than a man in the same exact position, the she is being discriminated against. Get it?
100% on your side with equal wages and rights, but trivializing trans people to make your point is pretty disgusting. Taking a group of marginalized people whose suicide rate is 41% and making it the brunt of your joke is NOT funny.
And not a single economist has yet to agree with this bogus wage gap hypothesis so far. No, it's not fact, it's a hypothesis. A poorly drawn hypothesis.
Its really weird how so many people are talking about "feminism agenda". I don't think those people know what feminism is. How could you live in this age and not think men and women should be equals?
that the safe sound front but it ultamently meaningless it like christian saying christianity mean beleiving in god an that true but it also has A whole set of values beleif one can beleive in gender equality an not feminism verzion of it.
Thunderf00t was once asked by a feminist: Why do I deserve get paid less than you? His response? Because I work in a fucking nuclear power plant and you don't!
Wage gap doesn't exist. Compare professional ( Doctor, Lawyer, etc ) to professional about education, experience, hours worked, etc. If they both happen to be around the same, and one gets paid less, then we might have a problem. But, that is improbable. No one is quite the same as another person. One male/ female doctor's credentials might be more or less than another doctor's, so you would expect the higher doctor to be paid more, regardless of genitalia. You cant make an assumption that males get paid more just because he has a penis, based off of little to no factual evidence proving so. Show us a reliable source behind this "78 cents to the dollar", along with facts/ evidence that shows men with standard credentials get paid more then women with the same credentials, then maybe society, excluding the feminists, might take this serious.
Precisely. But the feminazis won't care. They hear that women are being oppressed, they will relentlessly harass men. Regardless of who's fault, or any practical evidence.
Sanguine Rose Ain't that the truth. I did a transfer of colleges for my last two years but for whatever reason one of the GE's did not transfer over. Having already taken Research Methods (where I spent two weeks researching variables for studies) I was shock how poorly constructed many feminist studies are. Some examples: > Not controlling for continuing education. > Not controlling to the school they went to. > Not differentiating between a Level I Trauma Center vs a Community hospital. The study was basically engineered to find a result.
I'm still eagerly awaiting one single reason why greedy capitalist employers would EVER hire men for $1000 a week when they could hire an EQUALLY COMPETENT woman for $780 per week. Either: 1) the math is wrong, 2) women AREN'T as competent as men, or, 3) gosh, you have to conclude that those cutthroat businessmen aren't REALLY all that greedy. Two of these look pretty easy to rule out. Which ones are they, for you?
Instead of paying women more we should just reduce the amount that men get paid to the same level. Then see how long it takes before they start complaining.
$0.78:$1.00 because of health benefits and paid leave for when the woman is pregnant, and pregnant again, and possibly again...This is why politicians are ignoring the "issue" of the GAP. Men receive extra money because they recieve less insurance and benefits.
Imagine thinking raising a child, cooking for your family, and doing necessary housework are somehow unproductive. Housewives get shit done even if they aren’t paid by a company for it. I can only assume your parents put minimal effort into raising you, if you think that raising a family means you hardly do productive things or put in work
I love Sarah, but I'll still criticise her for pushing a harmful agenda. She repeated some pretty faulty statistics here, and presented them as fact within the humour. Humour is often used to reveal a truth about society. When it is used for what amounts to propaganda, colour me a sad panda.
Dm Gray Yes Dm, humor and satire always had been the best tool to describe society shortcoming. For centuries. As for TV commercials or any ad for that matter, they are pure propaganda by definition. Bending facts for the good and interesting ad, that's what it is.
I think a male miner does a better job than a female miner. A lot of jobs are physical and men are going to do those jobs better. There is plenty of jobs where being a man is frowned upon.
but if the world was feminist then a man doing a "feminine" job would not be frowned upon. he would be accepted. also, the wage gap affects jobs that have nothing to do with physical performance. and even if wages were based off of merit, a scrawny man whose a miner would still get paid more the strong woman miner.
blahblahbleh "even if wages were based off of merit, a scrawny man whose a miner would still get paid more the strong woman miner." Are you saying this is because of sexism and discrimination, or because "scrawny" men are better miners than "strong" women
Women typically decide to work in social professions like teaching and nursing. Those jobs pay less and offer less opportunities for promotion. Women also don't ask as often to be promoted. Women have to take time off during and after pregnancy. Sometimes they stop working altogether for several years to raise their children, thus ruining their chances in the competitive job market. Women also work part-time more often than men. Profession areas dominated by men tend to offer better pay with less education needed. Those are also the jobs that are the most dangerous and more physically demanding and men account for the majority of work-related deaths and injuries, thus the better pay in these jobs. Those are just a few reasons why the average woman makes less money than a man. Only looking at the numbers without the background is stupid and won't do anything. If you want to change something, stop whining and tell your daughter that she can pursue a career in a male-dominated field and tell your son that he can become a nurse if that's what he's interested in. If you don't want that, accept that women will always earn less. Not due to sexism (at least not for the most part) but simply because they don't work under condition that allow them to earn more. If you want sources for the claims I've made, I'll gladly give them to you. Also, if you find grammar mistakes, you can keep them. I'm not a native speaker.
Think About this. Wouldn't a company who could get away with hiring a women less then a man hire more women? It makes total sense, yet that doesn't happen.
If this was true, women would be the most sought after workers on the market, and men would have a real hard time getting and/or keeping a job. Only hiring women would be such a competitive advantage, but as we all know private businesses just don't care about profits - only wieners. They just love those wieners. Except for in modeling for some reason, where women make 20 times what their male counterparts make. So of course women has to get paid more an hour then men to compensate for all the extra hours men on average work. It should not be beneficial for men to take less time off work then women, in fact such should be penalized. Dangerous jobs should also be paid less than other types of work, not more like it currently is now. And of course bonuses should get a special man-tax. That way we'll have this wage gap sorted in no time. Wonder why Sarah Silverman didn't know this. Or perhaps she does, but just needed the money.
Sarah Silverman is a genius, and so is this promo. Way to hit so many jokes yet promote for such a great cause. Everything women deal with in the work force is hilariously disturbing. Equality for all humanity! Get em Ladies!
"Sarah Silverman is a genius, and so is this promo." You *are* easily impressed. "Way to hit so many jokes yet promote for such a great cause." Where the cause is ... lying...? Promoting a lie about a group in order to gain power over it? Spreading hate for personal gain? This is your definition of 'good'? "Everything women deal with in the work force is hilariously disturbing" What, like shorter working hours and working conditions so much safer that men die ten times as much? That's what disturbs you? You don't care that men die, you just care that the survivors are paid more? "Equality for all humanity!" You keep using the word 'equality". I do not think it means what you think it means. "Get em Ladies! " That's more like it. At last, some honest hate. Good to see it in the open, after all that.
She pinched it LMAO when she was holding it she pinched it ROFLMAO that was friggin hilarious. I really enjoyed this just remember to check which way its pointing when you go for your morning pee otherwise you may end up with pee all over your face. Thank you Sarah
mshara1 The men's rights movement is not about about to go away, because it addresses some real issues, starting with the high rates of suicide and incarceration, and the falling rates of college graduation.
mshara1 Every controversy in social media is 10% thoughtful and 90% boorish abuse. That fact does not invalidate any cause or controversy. I am in my mid 60s, and do not live in the USA. I witnessed the rise of radfem in the 1960s and 70s, and have been opposed to it ever since.
Beautiful funny ad for a beautiful and serious campaign, fighting an issue that needs to stop. As a man I would feel the worse telling a woman who does the same job as me that she somehow deserves less money and recognition for it. It'll be excruciating.
How are you idiots still falling for this hustle? This issue was suppose to be dead when they found out that in Obama's White House women were getting paid 13% less than men on average. And then Obama's excuse was that the whole way they calculate this statistic is false. So basically Obama who created this whole issue, was saying that it was a fake issue.
