Sardonicast 102: Red Notice, Sátántangó 

Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro, The Matrix Resurrections trailer 11:28 - Red Notice 33:12 - Satantango 1:18:53 - Q&A 1:19:07 - Thoughts on the great lengths people go to spoil themselves on movies? 1:21:57 - Thoughts on Taika Waititi adapting The Incal? 1:24:17 - What's it like being in a position where your work can affect people in deeply positive ways? 1:27:08 - Three of the top five grossing films this year are Chinese. How do you think this affects hollywood? 1:34:47 - Any interesting experiences in theaters outside of your home country? 1:38:09 - Which A24 movies would The Rock and Ryan Reynolds fit best in? 1:39:56 - What's the funniest reaction you've gotten after telling someone what you do for work? 1:41:57 - Ralph recommends Supergirl (1984) Timestamps credits to Michael Scott. Reposting for personal use cause I prefer when the timestamps are closer together.

Idk why but seeing Ralph becoming more talkative again warms my cold heart ♥️ love you buddy.

i completely disagree with adam’s refutation of the video essay’s point about subjective time shown via the recreated scenes. while it is, as adam points out, an inevitability of shooting, the discrepancies speak to tarr’s interest in temporality shown throughout the film, from the elliptical narrative structure that, like a tango, takes up forward and back, to the use of animals, dreams, and other non-traditional interlocuters to guide the viewer. these motifs are very present in the novel and much of lászló krasznahorkai’s work such the ‘melancholy of resistance’ and his short story ‘the last wolf’. as we see during the police report writing scene, the doctor’s note-keeping, and irimiás’ reporting on the villagers, there is a theme of surveillance but also of interpellation and reinterpretation: what one person sees is different, or otherwise consciously and explicitly rewritten. i think this idea of time and its construction cannot be separated from the surveillance culture of the soviet union while, yes, you *could* say the same about pulp fiction, as adam cites, pulp fiction is not a film explicitly interested in these themes. that’s why it’s possible to make these connections p.s. in the dancing scene they were actually really drunk, so although their behaviour was weird it is technically vérité

I'm so happy to hear a non-Hungarian podcast talk about a Hungarian movie.

Y’all need to watch A Brighter Summer Day by Edward Yang. 4 hours and perfect from beginning to end

I immediately thought of when Patty Jenkins said "streaming movies don't feel like real movies to me" when the trailer for Red Notice dropped.

I love how every single time Adam says Jao China nobody laughs or acknowledges it but he still tries Jokes aside great discussion and I was happy to hear that Satantango isn't something that I need to see asap

The Woman Who Left is actually a little bit shorter than Norte, the End of History lol, 3 hours and 45 minutes; one of the shorter Lav Diaz movies. Amazing movie though

Love you Ralph. Alex and Adam too.

I got an extension that returns the Dislikes, if any of you want you can use that

I'm glad knowing all 3 of these guys also like to get stoned

16:54 "You know Post Malone, he has the guy that is a famous singer with has face tattoos."

Best podcast hands down

Can confirm, my dad for example references movies by what actors are in them, so if he sees a movie he’ll be like “the Bryan Cranston character did this”, he’s 63, it can be anyone

Spent 15minutes shiting on a movie before FINALLY realizing that you're not part of the target demographic. sardonicas in a nutshell.

No no no no Chris Pratt can join anything besides these two dweebs. Not my boy Pratt because he became a humble Hufflepuff dude to be funny, handsome, likable, and whatever he can be a fun Super Mario character. Don't touch him at least okay in The Tomorrow War, but that's just okay.

Did Adum say Bela Tarr is dead? I don't think that's accurate.

Jupiter Ascending was so-bad-it's-good. The new Matrix is so-bad-it's-a-fucking-waste-of-time-run-away-and-never-watch.

10:01 Adum predicted the IndieWire Article.

Ralph said he gave Sátántangó a 6/10 but on Letterboxd he has it as a 4/5, whats the deal

The furthest I got with a Tarr film was probably around 20 minutes into the Werckmeister Harmonies, which I still haven't finished, yet found it more accessible than any Tarkovsky one I've seen, who's one of my favourite directors. By all accounts I am prepared to expect Sátántangó will be pretty challenging, and I am equally excited as I am intimidated

Great episode, f e l l a s

If we're talking about Matrix 4 on the beginning: The Matrix - 10/10 Matrix: Reloaded - 7/10 Matrix: Revolutions - 5/10 This garbage - 1/10

That thing with the cat is so upsetting. I hope it was already ill or old. It would still be gross and exploitative but at least they wouldn't have killed an animal just for a movie.

I think it’s time to catch up on Attack On Titan. Preferably the Sub even though the dub isn’t half bad.

Kevin Hart and The Rock as the two leads in the lighthouse would be an instant classic. Although I’m not sure who would be better to deliver the sea curse monologue. Ryan Reynolds can be the mermaid.

Ralph sounded so engaged this episode. Glad to see it!

Ralph sounds the most enthusiastic I’ve heard in a long time. I honestly missed this. Watch more bad movies for Ralph to be angry to.

It’s funny that Jodorowsky doesn’t like Dennis Villeneuve’s style, but approved of Taika Waititi to adapt arguably one of his (and Moebius’s) magnum opuses. At this point, I think his distaste for Villeneuve’s Dune really does partly stem from resentment. Plus, it’s a real shame that The Incal is gonna be live-action rather animated, half of the appeal of the comic in the first place is Moebius’s art and I don’t think it can properly be adapted without an ungodly amount of CGI

Lazlo Kraznahorkai, the author of satantango, is notorious for long and winding sentences, as well as odd syntax, a style adopted by some in the late 20th century his syntax is also odd, with lots of asides and parentheses it has a sense of atmosphere and thickness in the prose, though the novel isn’t very long

I’m the question-asker at 1:24:17 and I should specify that I was jailed for drug use and not any crazy shit lmao!

I’m glad to hear The Rock get trashed. I feel like he gets a free pass from most people but he might be my least favourite actor working today, in terms of his talent-to-paycheck ratio. Ironically the best “acting” he’s ever done was in the WWF.

I can't imagine watching "Sátántangó" at home, i was fortunate enough to see it in a theater with multiple breaks between segments. the story and character elements really take a backseat to the general experience of just getting immersed into the ultra-long takes. but yeah, it aint for everybody.

Any chance you guys could do an episode on Blue Ruin and Green Room? Hell you got Patrick Stewart as a neo-nazi, that alone is worth talking about them

I love this podcast, and all 3 of these channels.

Bela Tarr isn't dead, Adum.

Timestamps! 0:00 Intro, The Matrix Resurrections trailer 11:28 Red Notice Discussion (spoilers) 33:12 Satantango Discussion (spoilers) 1:18:53 Pizza Time! I mean Question Time! 1:19:07 What are your thoughts on the great lengths people went to try and figure out major plot and character details for Spider-Man No Way Home [based on the trailers]? 1:21:57 What are your thoughts on Taika Waititi adapting The Incal? 1:24:17 What's it like being in a position where your work can affect people in deeply positive ways? 1:27:08 Three of the top five grossing films this year are Chinese. How do you feel about this and about the implied current state of Hollywood? 1:34:47 Have you ever seen any movies in theaters in a foreign country and experienced something different that you wouldn't in your own country? 1:38:09 Which A24 movies would The Rock and Ryan Reynolds fit best in? 1:39:56 What's the funniest reaction you've gotten after telling someone what you do for work? 1:41:57 Ralph recommends Supergirl (1984) Good stuff boys! I watched Red Notice when it hit Netflix; maybe the blandest movie of the year. There's one part when they get to the Jungle Area (TM) and The Rock has some line like "okay you've had me walking around here for three days, when are you going to tell me what's going on" and that line killed me, like really that's how you're going to establish your scene transition? Gave it a 1/5 on Letterboxd lol. Also I haven't seen Spider-Man yet so no spoilerinos in the comments! Happy Shrek! Update: I saw Spider-Boy: Hometown Reunion. Pretty cool! 3.5 on Letterboxd!

I genuinely smirked at the scene in Red Notice when The Rock jumps in a Porsche and immediately crashes it, that was the only time during the movie when my expectations were subverted

Ah yes, the perfect double bill. The two are spiritual twins

The only reason I was surprised by the twist regarding the Rock's character in Red Notice is because I thought there was no way he would play a surprise villain at this point in his career, since he needs to be the most likable and relatable person in every movie he's in

Ralph sounds like he’s his old self again, I’m so happy to hear him connected and engaged with the podcasts again!!

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Ralph is so talkative again, I love it!

"China turned the blinker left and then made a right turn". Genuinely a fucking brilliant political observation of China from Adam. Well done.

I feel the Deadpool movie completely brainwashed Reynolds into believing he is funny. I haven’t seen him being funny in such a long time it’s fucking crazy.

Red Notice is the most stupidest movie ever. I hated it. Another Dwayne Johnson Jungle movie (I'm sick of tired of having Johnson in every jungle like count how many times he's been there), Reynolds is not tired after Free Cringe Dude (no offense Alex, Free Guy is a Disney Cash grab insane movie), and a poorly adventure cliche movie even Gal Gadot singing is bad.

I am very happy Ralph sounds more and more engaged in the discussion, and as a Hungarian Boi I am also very pleased to hear three different non-Hungarian nationalities talk about Sátántangó. On its 25th anniversary, back in 2019, the arthouse theater in my hometown screened it in its entirety which I was able to attend, and sat through it. An experience I will never forget nor do I have anything else to compare to.

Adam, the music is hardly a "10 second loop". It has a chord structure but gains variation through improvised voicings and counterpoint. The very soft but quick attack on the patch may resemble the unsteady timing of a child but the commitment to theme and the harmonic minor scale indicates something more competently devilish. and the "tango" scene clearly resembles theater, with the accordionist playing pretend like children with everyone else, unwittingly for an audience of one child who is acutely losing her innocence. We each see that it looks fake, you just choose to interpret it as unintentional. I do feel somewhat bad for anyone starting with Turin or Satantango tbh, Werkmeister is really the best introduction to Tarr vocabulary

54:15 - The accordion is played by the village drunk, who is also the only person who has any sort of knowledge on how to play a musical instrument. No peasant in the movie cares about it's (lack of) quality, because they are not elitist music bro characters.

Hey Alex he's your cringe Gal Gadot singing "There's no heaven..." yay you keep your Gadot intention after WW84.

You guys should talk about pain and gain. A movie that Michael bay made about these bodybuilder murderers who tortured people until they signed over all their assets over to them and then murdered them. He decided to make a movie about this real situation and make it a comedy

A Hungarian movie? Whoa I'm looking forward to this

Oh, no, the dislikes are turned off?! I can't even tell if this is a good podcast or not now!!

This is a movie I'll never watch but will definitely watch a podcast talking about it

Oh, PLEASE have Mr. Avocado as a guest

Lol at Ralph thinking Marvel Studios hiring Chloe Zhao for Eternals was to appease the Chinese market. If only he knew…

As a hungarian fan I am happy for the Sátántangó discussion! 😁😊

All of the references and some bad jokes in Red Notice are so terrible and tiresome. Just hated in every scene which i didn't care at all. Even the Johnson just been in every jungle scenes and it's like another Jungle movie just please no more Johnson films in every jungle movies. Like he's too fetish in every jungle sequences and oiling sweats in every movies. Too fetish in his taste.

Watching this in June 2023. As Alex is talking about generic jungly action adventure movies, he's suddenly interrupted by an ad for the new Indiana Jones flick...

In the middle of watching part 3 of Satantango I fell asleep and I was so pissed cause I had to rewind back to where I was when I feel asleep. Watched the whole thing but fuuuuck. For 7 hours for it to be a 5 or 6/10 was disappointing but idk was kinda worth taking it off my watchlist. And I had literally all of the same criticisms of Adum for Satantango.

Welcome back Ralph’s audio

adam looks like he's using his eyebrows as hair pins to stop his hair from falling on his face

Bela Tarr is not dead Adam

We definitely have movies with subtitles in México. Actually, those are the best showings because most people hate reading and sometimes you have the whole place just for you. I watched the new Spider-Man both ways and the difference is huge, the first time was the subbed version and there were literally 5 people including myself, the dubbed version was packed as fuck with those clapping and screaming people you always mention.

Hilarious to me that the preview to the matrix I saw straight up had to state "this is how you do a reboot!" Lol

Instagram is the death key of making social media cliches. 😡

Satantango feels like a whole ass drug trip

The music in Sátántango is my favorite part and is one of the main reasons why I’ve rewatched it a couple times I like the film mainly for it’s atmosphere and characters, I don’t really care about digging into it’s “hidden meanings” or “overinterpreting” it. I really recommend the book though especially if you want to get into the story more, it’s a great book and the film follows it quite well

What's everyone's favorite movie of the year? I have high hopes for Licorice Pizza, which I haven't seen, but I really enjoyed The Humans and would probably give it to that for now

1:01:34 Bela Tarr isn't dead lol

Ralph was amazing in this! Welcome back, Ralph 😍

What are the names of charecters in Red Notice? Deadpool, Wonderwomen and Rock

The Matrix "Spin-off" where Morpheus dies was a 2 minute cutscene in the 2005 Matrix MMO lmao The entire game is canon. And also not playable anymore.

"Is this gonna be the Last Jedi of Matrix films?" OHHHHHHHHH BOY. You have no idea 😂

This is so superficial. Waste of time.

Well I've see The Matrix Resurrections and it wasn't that good. Just a collection of making reboot sequel and just make these two characters back from the death and some weird choices that I didn't appreciate after the third film which felt pretty empty. There are some cool parts of the movie felt like in a different dimension of the Matrix, but the story and the issues were pretty tamed. I wanted to enjoy it, but it just like The Matrix Revolutions all over again compare this one just bringing characters needed and some don't needed just felt kind of weak and safety. Wanted more action, gritty, and mature, except this one just felt like way too cleany.

I saw the ed sheeran clip from red notice and it has my least favorite celebrity cameo joke. I hate when the celebrity goes “I’m *celebrity* bitch” and its supposed to be funny cause they don’t normally say that

The whiplash of realizing the poster is in greek...

Matrix 4 made $22.5 million domestically opening weekend, it's a giant bomb. Nobody wanted to see it and nobody did. As for the movie itself... it's like a mix of Terminator: Genisys and The Last Jedi. You guys reviewing it will be interesting.

I honestly loved the music from Satantango. I listen to the music now even after watching the film a week ago

Why is Satantango's poster in the thumbnail in Greek?

I bet Nikocado Avocado's favorite movie would be La Grande Bouffe (1973)

Now that they've gotten around to Béla Tarr, I REALLY hope they eventually get to An Elephant Sitting Still, since it was directed by his protégé and is clearly influenced by his style. One of the best movies ever made, hands down.

I think it would honestly be cool "even though its probably not worth his time or money" to have the rock take some serious acting classes and get an oscar winning performance in some indie film. Like to see the rock with actual acting chops would be cool

Now I can't watch movies about musical instruments without watching how the actor plays. Adum ruined tick tick boom for me.

I enjoyed the first third of matrix resurrection (except for the opening scene), cause when it becomes the matrix all over again its boring, predictable and cringe

Day 14 of asking for an episode on the Evil Dead trilogy

wow adam, how surprising that a 7 hr movie has minor technical shortcomings!! that must really ruin the whole experience for you!

Tom Holland as drake for the uncharted movie was the worst decision for a movie

Small correction, Adum. The trailer shows us the best moments AVAILABLE at the time it is being edited.

I watched matrix resurrection in cinema because spiderman no way home was only available at night, late.

love all you guys, that jail story was bonkers, hope that guy is doing alright now.

Ralph’s off the H. Glad to see it. He’s finally awake for this episode. I wouldn’t have done any better...

Yeah I guess The Rock playing a bad guy is a novel idea, very fresh and interesting. You know, if you never seen him in anything else? Get Smart? Mummy II? Fucking, His Wrestling Career??!!

Guys I saw the new Matrix and the first HOUR NOTHING HAPPENS. It's the most boring thing ever. As Jay Bauman would say, "This is the latest entry into the continued pop culture equivalent of The Chris Farley Show." Remember the Matrix? Remember Neo? Remember Jada Pinkett Smith? Remember the cat? You liked the glitch cat gag right? Remember the train wreck video games from The Matrix? No one needs to waste their time on the movie. 3/10 Edit: nb4 hurr muh commentary and politics. You can't polish a heaping piece of shit like this and expect a diamond underneath. Defending dribble like this movie hurts your credibility as a critic. Don't reply thanks.

We can predict The Turin Horse would be the second to last film that would be reviewed on YMS.

its a shame cause Ryan was really good in the movie Buried but I guess these movies are what the people want so thats what he does

Ralph is back baby

I don’t care about The Matrix but that’s my boy Jonathan Groff in there! Fuckin Kristoff from Frozen!

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