Hellboy in the comic is King Arthur's heir, the Excalibur part wasn't handled well in the movie (like everything else for that matter) but it was indeed in the comics...
Adam: pleb king extraordinaire. I love your stuff dude but I think it's pretty ignorant to say David Lynches process with Eraserhead is basically to throw weird shit at the wall and see what sticks.
Hellboy in the comic is King Arthur's heir, the Excalibur part wasn't handled well in the movie (like everything else for that matter) but it was indeed in the comics...
The difference between David Lynch and other artsy directors is most artsy directors have that attitude of "I'm gonna put this in bc it's weird". But David Lynch's work...like thats just how he is. That's how he thinks. That's what makes sense to him and that's what he likes. If you look at his paintings you'll see that's just how he is with his art. There's nothing wrong with trying to shock an audience with artwork. And Lynch is more humble compared to other directors I've seen.
Matthew Broderick wasn't the singing voice, Jonathan Taylor Thomas wasn't his singing voice either. Even Scar's singing voice changed toward the end of the song to Jim Cummings because of vocal strain after "YOU WON'T GET A SNIFF WITHOUT ME!!"
Adam will piss me off with some opinion, then a couple weeks late I'll get over it, then right after I get over it he'll go and act like Eraserhead would be just as effective at 20 minutes. 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑. Goddamnit Adam make it easier to not be pissed at you.
@@randomguy6679 Eh, isn’t it, though? It’s emotion informed by opinions at least. Anyway, my point is other people are entitled to bitching just as much as Adum is.
Guillermo Del Toro the oscar winning director gets fucked over so much by producers, not letting him direct the second Pacific Rim, not letting him make the third Hellboy, cancelling the Silent Hill game, not letting him make his Hobbit movies, seriously what the fuck? One of the creative geniuses in hollywood and gets fucked everytime.
To the point Adam makes around the 43 minute mark, the Disney "live action" reboots are like the New Coke idea (which may or not have been a long-term con). A large company can take an existing property or brand, make a terrible new version that loses money, but then make a big deal of resurrecting the old version and make more money overall than simply continuing as is.
Calling it now - after milking the cash cow of “live action” remakes dry, Disney will respond to the criticism of their excessive photorealism by doing another round of remakes in the CGI animation style of Tangled, Frozen and Moana, keeping the business afloat for another decade while simultaneously indoctrinating a new generation into ~*the wonderful world of Disney*~ If I was a conspiracy theorist, I might wonder if that wasn’t their plan all along. Studies have shown that kids raised on 3D CGI animation don’t like 2D hand-drawn animation (much like kids raised on color don’t like black & white), so the old “Disney vault” schtick won’t cut it anymore. As for Cats, I thought the CGI animated ears and tails were an interesting way to make the characters more expressive than their Broadway counterparts, but they’ll probably take it too far and end up lost in the uncanny valley. The “plot” of Cats is pretty thin, the music isn’t great, and the characterization is virtually nonexistent, so I expect the movie will be padded out with some Hollywood character cliches, dated meme references and toilet humor (for the kids!) to make it bad instead of boring. I’m not sure which would be worse, tbh.
"I don't know completely what it means yet, but I love whatever it was." You did it Alex. You accurately described the experience of watching a David Lynch film. Now watch more. I want to hear you guys struggle with Lost Highway and Inland Empire.
Ralph thinks his 10 Ralphbucks don't make a difference, but if there are a million Ralphs in the world, they all "ironically" gave Disney 10 million Ralphbucks /deep
Matthew Broderick didn’t sing in The Lion King. Adult Simba’s singing voice was Joseph Williams, who is the son of John Williams and also was the lead singer of Toto for a while.
@@maxinecaulfield310 It's true lol, just look it up. He killed 2 people in a car crash, though apparently he may have had some medical issue that caused the accident.
Ralph really should’ve never recommended Wild at Heart for a first David Lynch movie. Blue Velvet is a much better starting point and Alex even said he was apprehensive for Eraserhead cause of WaH
Yeah that is probably his weakest movie, and least like the rest of his work. It's fun and entertaining, but it baffles me why they chose that one to have a discussion on Lynch...
I think Twin Peaks is a good starting point, 2 seasons of restrained Lynch, then the 3rd seasons jumps off into full Lynch and prepares the viewers for his movie style
I don't think David Lynch makes his movies weird just for the sake of weird. He's stated before that he doesn't try to confuse the audience, rather he tries to shroud the truth in mystery and symbolism, and invites the audience to become detectives; to discover the clues and unravel the mystery. For instance with The Lost Highway; once you understand that the movie was inspired by the OJ Simpson trial, you can start piecing together the clues. It then becomes clear that the movie's about what might happen when someone commits an unforgivable act (i.e. murdering their wife), and how their mind might try to protect itself from the knowledge of what they've done by retreating into a fantasy world. Granted Eraserhead is a lot more abstract than The Lost Highway, But I believe it was created with the same philosophy in mind. Don't tell the audience what's going on, Instead; give them clues through surreal imagery, and let them connect the dots.
Q and A: 1:30:00 - Film is practically the only art medium where the entire product is consumed in one sitting. Books are separated into chapters, albums are separated into songs and live theaters are usually split into two acts. Do you think films suffers from this attribute? Would certain slower films improve in terms of their pacing if you paused and took a break? 1:33:09 - How often do you go in blind for the stuff you watch? No trailers, no synopsis, just “I heard I should watch this, so I will” or maybe just that level of trust in a director? 1:42:05 - What is the worst part of having a huge audience? Do you ever have some serious trouble with fans? How do you cope with people who aren’t giving any constructive criticism and are just there to insult you?
it's just odd to see a somewhat realistic lion speaking it seems so unnatural reminds me of that goofy jurassic park dream sequence where the raptor talks
Adum's whole approach with "interpretive filmmaking" is totally antithetical to what I think the point of interpretive filmmaking is. From my pov a good interpretive film isn't a puzzle that has a correct answer to be solved. It's supposed to be something that invites different interpretive frameworks. That's what makes Eraserhead so brilliant. At one point when Ralph is giving his interpretation of the lady in the radiator Adum says to Ralph's interpretation "yup you got it". Again, I think this misses the point of interpretive art completely. What Ralph said about that scene is totally valid but that's his experience with it. I never felt anything like what he was talking about, I never made the interpretation that it had anything to do with suicide. To me, that scene had more to do with with empty promises made by our family or by our culture about the afterlife. Like a comforting lie that's lovingly whispered into our ear to help us fall asleep at night. But I don't think that that is "the answer" I think that that's just what I took away from it. And it's amazing that David Lynch was able to make something that could speak to something so deep within me that's completely different than what it means to somebody else.
Yeah it really seems like Adum just likes to be contrarian alot of the time just because and maybe even seeking attention idk? He said if it came out earlier he would've been impressed lol? He doesn't seem to understand that movies don't have to follow the basic film formula and just exist as something completely unique. Eraserhead literally still is a one of a kind movie. Also as someone who personally loves Kaufman and Haneke (like Adum) this should be right up his alley. But he is literally shitting on Lynch and making fun of him on purpose. How can anyone truly say anything personally negative about Lynch He's such a sweetheart lol. Weird for sure but seems like a decent person. Adum also says multiple times how he know's he's gonna get hate for his opinion, kind of like that's what his plan is in the first place idk lol.
@@RickyR115 " He doesn't seem to understand that movies don't have to follow the basic film formula and just exist as something completely unique. " thats not the case at all since his favorite film is The Holy Mountain
@@user-dy7ls7uo9j But he respects The Holy Mountain for it’s symbolism iirc. I feel like Adum has fallen a bit into a perspective that Jadorowsky does what Lynch can’t, which is offer definite meaning or an answer to a puzzle. Adum simply doesn’t recognize that Lynch is not that kind of filmmaker or artist. He’s not pretending to be more profound or deeper than he is, and he doesn’t like nor care for concrete answers because he genuinely prefers mystery. He’s a surrealist who works with abstractions to convey particular emotions, themes, and/or ideas. His movies aren’t puzzles with answers. They’re just uninhibited expressions not tethered to any definite interpretation or message, all in service of a unique experience that could not exist as is while having some kind of obtuse message to string it all together.
@@BareBandSubscriptiona bit late, but I agree. Adam values logic, and he values what he perceives as "purposefulness." He doesn't really like improvisational filmmaking, or at least filmmaking that feels as if it wasn't storyboarded to hell. There are exceptions of course but this is my takeaway about his tastes over the years. He really values something that resembles something with a lot of preparation.
@@sockself No. It's a gay observation... Horror is often personal, so it's not that strange that someone, who has little chance to have a kid wouldn't be as affected by a movie, trying to scare you with the concept.
I would absolutely love to hear his thoughts. Season 1 and 3 are incredible, 2 definitely has great episodes but I bet Adam wouldn't want to watch all of it.
As someone who seems to be on the other side of every one’s opinion on his movies (minus Pulp Fiction) this’ll be interesting. From what I’ve seen Adum is mostly on my page
Matthew Broderick was actually pretty well cast, in my opinion. He may not sound like a personified lion, but his shy and quiet voice kinda conveyed a lot of trauma from the past and worry for the future.
I believe I heard once that Simba's dialogue was written with Matthew Broderick in mind. And to be honest, I think this is his best role. Mostly cuz I kinda hate him in everything else.
I think he was still a bit shaken up by the revelation that Scar killed his father. If a family member (who I was pretty close to) killed a family member (even closer to me), I definitely wouldn't be very strong about it.
I showed my friend that comparison of Mufasa's death and he said, "What's the big deal? Is it really that bad?" That's the majority of the people paying and enjoying the new one. They don't care...
I love Eraserhead but Adam is totally entitled to his opinion as is everyone else and like Alex said some paintings connect with certain people and not with others and Eraserhead is very similar to that
6:25 Outrage marketing. Pure and simple. Studio releases tiny amount of bad thing, people see bad thing, say “Bad thing looks bad! I’m smart!”, studio pretends to fix it, people feel smart and now want to see if it looks better.
Evan M i mean you'd think they could jus, you know, actually make a good movie that sells itself, but i guess thats too hard? I wish i could say this is an unrealistically cynical take but you might be on to something...
BTW the actor who played Henry Spencer is played by Jack Nance (credited as John Nance) who's in almost every David Lynch films up until Lost Highway including the Twin Peaks TV Series. I'm saying it because they forgot to mention him during the Eraserhead discussion, oops.
He's lost his mind. His condition over time causes less and less oxygen access for his brain through the spine. And so as hes gotten older Michael Anderson has started a whole campaign of bigotry on his social media. Zionist conspiracy theories and shit.
Really enjoyed the debate between Ralph and Adam over Eraserhead and why they enjoyed/didn't enjoy the film. I can understand why Adam would enjoy the Holy Mountain and not enjoy Eraserhead to the same extent. The Holy Mountain is quite fast paced and almost scholarly in how laden it is with obvious references to religion, politics and history. Eraserhead by comparison is nearly the opposite; slow-paced, other-worldly and a more experiential film with very few referential touchstones for the analytical watcher to grab hold of. Looking forward to the discussion of Death Proof in the next episode.
Are we just gunna ignore the fact that derik savage released a new cool cat video where he does all the voiceacting because he is clearly out of budget?
Not having a Hellboy comic or seen the reboot, I'd ventured a guess that Excalibur has come up. It's a comic book, so eventually every type of plot happens at some point. Especially, in a setting that deals with magic and occult things, surely Excalibur has had some reference or role.
My first David Lynch film was his second movie, The Elephant Man. My parents love it and had me watch it. They did not understand Eraserhead. My mom left when the Beautiful Girl Across the Hall entered Henry's apartment. My Dad left after Henry's head pops off.
My issue with the lion king is that disney already had an amazing talking lion is Aslan. Why not base the characters like that. Aslan looked nice and could emote. The lions in the lion king movir though do neither
Might be an odd example but Pirates of the Carribbean 2&3 had Davy Jones with a humanlike face on a very inhuman CGI body and it looks awesome. It honestly still holds up pretty well too. Little nice subtle bits of tentacles moving and such. Really nice work. I don't know exactly hoe it was made but I know it looks good, and Cats does not
That character looks phenomenal because it’s complete mo-cap and you had a director to make sure the effects are stellar. Cats is all on the designs and final approval given to the CGi. Unless, they postponed for anothet year like another CGI disaster Sonic!
Well, I mean, it’s not like Davy Jones was supposed to look cute tho. He’s supposed to look grotesque/intimidating/ cool and it succeeds at that. I wouldn’t exactly say that’s the right example to compare to cats
Is it just me or does it seem like every episode Adam seems to be less and less friendly towards Ralph? I know that a lot of the times it's just banter but it's starting to sound more like he genuinely doesn't really like Ralph or really value his opinion. I dunno, I like all 3 of them for totally different reasons but more recently Adam does seem to kind of pick on Ralph a bit in a way that he doesn't do with Alex and it does make things feel a little negative - luckily Ralph just keeps on being his upbeat funny self despite it, I could definitely be reading too far into what I'm hearing as it could all be totally different behind the scenes but yeah, does anyone else feel this?
While I don’t love Eraserhead quite as much as I appreciate it (it’s incredibly made, but just leaves me a bit cold), Adum’s argument that it would be better if it came out ten years earlier is so dumb. The only real direct comparisons I can make are surrealist films of the 30s such as Bunuel’s work, but even those are very different. And Jodorowsky isn’t similar to Lynch at all imo. Yes, they’re both surrealist filmmakers, but Jodorowsky is more about vivid, vibrant dream-logic absurdity, whereas I feel Lynch plays more in a nightmare realm, where everything is more cold and stark and isolating.
@@randomguy6679 I don’t have a problem with his not liking it, because I don’t love it either, but it’s more just the statement that if it was made 10 years earlier it would have been better because... well why? His argument just doesn’t make any sense, it would have been the same vision from the same person presumably. I don’t give a shit about whether he likes it or not though, I kind of dislike it and like it in equal measure (because of said coldness), I just get aggravated when people make strange arguments but can’t back it up.
Mm, well.. Yes and no. He does do that, but it was kind of relevant cuz they were talking about Lynch and he directed the 80's Dune that Jodorowsky was supposed to. Or did I miss something? Sorry if I'm mistaken.
He was trying to prove a point about Lynch having no point to his weirdness, and used Jodorowsky as an example of someone who does it well. How is that for no reason?
He’s saying Jodorowsky is a better experimental filmmaker, which I’d agree. Counterintuitively it’s why he isn’t as popular. I mean Lynch’s films have an aggressive quality to them but nothing like Jodorowsky, his movies make you feel like you’re on drugs
Jodorowsky and Lynch is one of the more famous of underground/cult/midnight movie filmaker, but Eraserhead is the one that won over and took the midnight movie thing to popularity while Jodorowsky is only popular with El Topo cause of The Beatles and then The Holy Mountain was not successful enough and when Jodorowsky want to make Dune hollywood rejected it and wants Lynch to make it instead, so Jodorowsky and Lynch have some ciss-cross over their career
Lion king 2019 mufasa's death scene summed up by Adum Mufasa: AHHHHHHH!!! (Adum's mocking voice) Simba: NOOOOOOO!!! (Adum's mocking voice) Me: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
The way Adam feels about Eraserhead and all of his criticisms of it is exactly how I feel about 2001 A Space Odyssey. I can appreciate its significance and technical achievements but I personally get almost nothing out of the film 🤷🏿♀️ that’s kind of why I love movies and talking about/hearing others talk about them. It’s so fascinating how one person can be so moved by something while someone else just shrugs their shoulders. I love that juxtaposition of opinions
*Generic comment that can fit the video even though I literally can't watch one second because it's still processing* Ralph's audio amirite. Scar amirite.
You could actually see the guy's head in the costume when one of the Turtles open their mouths wide. Also I just realized you were talking about the 2014 redesigns. Those are also pretty bad, although they don't look that bad- when they are kept in low lighting and have their ninja bandanas on. Whenever they are shown up close they look gross, especially their lips.
Yeah, I think he'll enjoy it far more. I've seen eraserhead once, loved it, and can't bring myself to watch it again. I'm sure I will at some point, but it was such a gut punching mind fuck that I'm content to have seen it, and give myself time away from it. Blue velvet, on the other hand, I've seen multiple times. It's a perfect mix of abstract surrealism, and coherent narrative. Probably the most accessible Lynch film.
42:04 They are also doing Lilo & Stitch, The Sword in the Stone, Mulan (which is coming out in 2020), a Tinkerbell film among many others It pisses me off. Good thing I have never seen any of the live action remakes Disney does
l love you Adam, but you really need to read David Foster Wallace's David Lynch essay. Exploring one motif but coloring it and fleshing it out in different ways is not inherently bad either. Comparing this to only god forgives is a major disservice - and comparing the goals of this to Jodorwski at the time is also. Lynch operates on a level of abstraction that is just such a cut above where most would fall flat on their face. The level of illogical logic underlying is breathtaking. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wie8uPgQOYE.html
I think adam built the movie up too much in his head and let the hype colour his opinion. Seems he went in much more critical than he might otherwise would have been.
Am I the only one who is sick of hearing about anything Lion King related? All the terrible Lion King memes have infested the Sardonicast subreddit for the past month.
