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@Colhogan06
@Colhogan06 4 года назад
Class act all the way!! She definitely knew her craft. I was watching her on a show called star talk and she broke down how she jumped and what went into her spin. It made me understand more clear how they can sometimes change what they were supposed to do in a performance. She said it was muscle memory and ar the start their jump they can already feel if they have enough torque in their spin to make a triple or quadruple spin. I suppose if they feel they only have the torque to do three then they can change up in the middle of that jump/spin, and do just 3 spins without it looking like there was something missing. The judges know only because they have a sheet that tells them what each skater is going to do. Because the audience doesnt know what they are suppoed to do, they can sometimes boo when a skater gets a lower score than expected. It's beacause they didnt realize they were docked for not doing what they originally said they would. I am sure doing a triple clean is probably close to being the same as doing a quadruple and stumbling some but not falling. That's just a guess by the way.
@mahelaniarektbb
@mahelaniarektbb 3 года назад
i just watched that episode again and now im here haha
@claytonbrannon3060
@claytonbrannon3060 Год назад
The difficulty between a triple jump and a quad is exponentially harder than going from a single to a douple then a triple. It is a shame this was in practice. Seen her skate many times and she is pure grace on the ice. Amazing performer both physically and artistically.
@IvelinaKr
@IvelinaKr 17 лет назад
i always thought of figure skating jumps as some kind of miracle . I can't imagine how people can do it. Double - ok..but triple - magic :)
@Etabobable
@Etabobable 5 лет назад
Love the intro, it WAS clean, almost as if there was a debunking video involved. Rofl. Yes she completed the quad which very few women can do, but nobody is actually arguing her accomplishment here haha.
@icesk8girl26
@icesk8girl26 11 лет назад
Why is everyone complaining that it's not clean? I don't see them landing quads or even close to rotating 4 times in the air. Sasha is amazing and its very unfortunate that she didn't use the quad in the competition, because it could have changed ladies' skating as we know it.
@haleyrice9408
@haleyrice9408 11 лет назад
yeah, a salchow is always executed this way. a double salchow is really equivalent to 1.5 rev, like an axel.
@dharmeshsolanki4354
@dharmeshsolanki4354 4 года назад
Star Talk
@xZOEYPHILLIPSx
@xZOEYPHILLIPSx 14 лет назад
that was pretty much clean ,, shes amazing
@ibreakhearts66
@ibreakhearts66 17 лет назад
and PS, that info comes from Kathy Casey herself, Olympic coach. thats why, when you do a double sal off ice, you are supposed to do the three turn, then do a half-rotation hop on your left foot and THEN take off once you are facing forwards. again, straight from the mouth of Kathy Casey
@herm712
@herm712 17 лет назад
That was pretty good. The resoution on the video was so bad that it almost looked like just a triple to me. But now that you slow it down you can clearly count all four clean rotations and a clean, if not pitched forward, landing. Too bad she never got around to doing it in comp though
@kman543210
@kman543210 14 лет назад
@diegokace I agree that she doesn't leave the ice going forward at the beginning, but if you watch all the guys who do this same jump, they do the same thing. You'd have to say everyone cheats this jump if you say that Sasha does. Even skaters doing this jump as a triple do the same thing.
@ibreakhearts66
@ibreakhearts66 16 лет назад
show me a salchow that takes off completely backwards. find me a video, please. as people (and I) have already pointed out, the first half-rotation of a salchow ALWAYS takes place on the ice. i've already said this, but Kathy Casey teaches students to do double/triple sals off-ice by doing the three-turn, then hopping on the left leg 1/2 rotation so you are facing forwards and THEN having you take off like an axel. why? to compensate for the curve of the edge which ends up equaling 1/2a rotation
@mizzi101
@mizzi101 17 лет назад
sk8rgrl89: What makes you think Sasha doesn't care about it? I read in her auto-biography thats she was so happy that she realised it was on film. I no that if i was Sasha and there was a video of me landing a quad in practice when i was only about 16, i would be so proud of that video! And it would make me happy ot watch video's of when i was younger, im sure Sasha loves to have a look at her videos from when she was little.
@FigureSkatingDaisy
@FigureSkatingDaisy 17 лет назад
Well Done futurechampion2, Youh Proved Urself To All Them Idiots Hu Cant Accept Tht The Jump Was Clean. Sasha Wud Be Proud!
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 16 лет назад
It was 3 1/4 revolutions, if you're going to be accurate at count rotations done IN THE AIR. You're allowed that 1/4 turn "cheat" on the landing so, yeah, this would in fact count as a clean quad.
@haleyrice9408
@haleyrice9408 11 лет назад
A salchow takes off forwards. In fact, if you look at MOST skaters, their jumps take off forwards. There is NO skater that jumps up completely straight facing backwards and then does the full turn perfectly from there. The salchow ESPECIALLY does this, because it's an edge jump, it's basically an axel from a different entry.
@piznoctsauo8141
@piznoctsauo8141 6 лет назад
Maybe that is why Sasha's Salchow was so impressive if we take in consideration that her Axel was textbook picture perfect.
@diegocassere
@diegocassere 14 лет назад
you have to count when she lives the ice... she prerotates a full rotation... look close her feet and she is doing a rotation on the ice and then lives it. i really like sasha but this is a 3S not a 4S.Sorry. with this slow motion you prove that...
@ibreakhearts66
@ibreakhearts66 17 лет назад
the first half-rotation of double/triple/quad sals are ALWAYS on the ice. its the curve of the edge. watch any multi-rotational sal and you'll see that the first half rotation is on the ice
@VWYL900802
@VWYL900802 15 лет назад
k, the vid is unclear. first, to really know if the quad is cheated, the back inside edge has to be considered. if her blade is still stuck on the ice while she lifts off, then she is CHEATED. BUT, if her toe makes that 'Y' mark on the ice, then it's legit. however, with the blurred images, you can't really tell. ps. the vid. actually pointed out a legit mistake in the jump and that was the over-wrapped legs during landing of the jump which caused the obvious dip in the landing.
@wobbles610
@wobbles610 16 лет назад
well actually she took off when she was facing left and landed facing right. So technically it was 3 1/2 which wouldn't have counted now in days.
@espinaca79
@espinaca79 16 лет назад
mmm It depends on how you look at it. In esence, you take off from a BACK outside edge and then make the body switch with the upper body and legs.
@ollieian
@ollieian 14 лет назад
I don't know. This is very close. But look at @1:01 it looks like she may have under-rotated a little; but it's too close to tell.
@triciamatsuda
@triciamatsuda 14 лет назад
nice save!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@sumimimi0
@sumimimi0 15 лет назад
no. not all. examples like salchow do't take off forward on toe-pick
@j0h2
@j0h2 16 лет назад
eh it was pretty clean~ good job sasha!! btw...where is this girl. did she retire?? (quad salchow means 3.5 revs for those who dont know...)
@jenayen
@jenayen 16 лет назад
Indeed it was clean! yea i dunno why is she still off ice. but she said that she's gonna come back.
@clarke38
@clarke38 16 лет назад
clean clean clean...where is she! she was all "im coming back for 2010" and if so, she should be on the circuit by now! wheres sasha?!!!
@meganlam1112
@meganlam1112 15 лет назад
actually, all jumps take off forward on the toe-pick.
@HummersAreDumber
@HummersAreDumber 15 лет назад
On the take-off, her foot is pointing to the left of the screen. On the landing, her foot is pointing to the right. Is that not cheated or what?
@SlimShadyisnuma1
@SlimShadyisnuma1 12 лет назад
@Beautifier101 its spiral, not spi-roll.
@strawberrystudz
@strawberrystudz 13 лет назад
@firebird264 it was a salchow wen u do a salchow u hav to do a half rotation first
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 17 лет назад
Cool, she really did get all the way around.
@No1ZmeskalFan
@No1ZmeskalFan 15 лет назад
Yeah with the salchow its almost always a lil pre rotated even the triples......the take off makes it really hard not too
@TheNexus
@TheNexus 16 лет назад
That was a crazy landing. How the hell did she stay up? Looked like her center of gravity was about to crash.
@annecohen8927
@annecohen8927 2 года назад
She leaned too far forward with her landing. But it was better than having her failed many times before. Most of them simply just gave up. Because it looks physically demanding on their slim build. It’s better that most athletes who don’t practice that much on their quad salchow, it’s best for them to give up on it.
@ericsingasong
@ericsingasong 17 лет назад
Whatever... Just look at the take-off portion of it and you'll see that the first half rotation was done even before she left the ice. Just because many would say that's a clean quad, doesn't mean it is. A true quad entails 4 full rotations after leaving the ice, and before landing back onto the ice. Anything less is cheated - simple as that! As for Sasha...hahaha...she should just focus on landing all her planned triples in competition first...'nuff said.
@liwancreatives
@liwancreatives 15 лет назад
sad..we can't ask Ulrich how to do it the correct way. but as I know, only single Salchow takes off backwards..look at every skater who does it at least doubles, it's supposed to be pre rotated on the take off.
@catherineray9752
@catherineray9752 7 лет назад
She pre rotated it. The landing isn't what's only important- take offs are too.
@sk8rgrl89
@sk8rgrl89 17 лет назад
I'm sure Sasha Cohen doesn't even care this much about it. And she was the one who did it.
@cornisyummy7
@cornisyummy7 15 лет назад
wel that was good but it looked really funny at the very end when u see her landing in slow motion. lol
@SkaterGirl2004
@SkaterGirl2004 17 лет назад
Haha the jump looked great but the landing was obviously not great. Good going Sasha!
@Soccerskater101
@Soccerskater101 15 лет назад
that was clearly a tripple
@12markito
@12markito 15 лет назад
And you are? Didn't think so. huh You got a problem?
@MEareCAT
@MEareCAT 13 лет назад
Woah. She did a clean quad axel :o
@sumimimi0
@sumimimi0 15 лет назад
first woman to do quad in competition is miki ando: wikipedia
@booksandblades
@booksandblades 16 лет назад
her hand did not touch the ice.
@HummersAreDumber
@HummersAreDumber 15 лет назад
Do you understand what you're saying? It "doesn't matter what direction her foot is in"? That's the definition of a cheated jump.
@MEareCAT
@MEareCAT 13 лет назад
@danasuperstar She still did it though.
@m04252009
@m04252009 15 лет назад
The whole thing looks lile a sci-fi to me. Can't believe it is possible.
@joshie228
@joshie228 11 лет назад
Cheated by a quarter on the takeoff. But most triple/quad salchows do this.
@shaetremblay6536
@shaetremblay6536 10 лет назад
Very nice quad salchow and yes the landing is clean but I'd say she cheated the take off. That's just my opinion though
@iyasaekki
@iyasaekki 15 лет назад
I was more of a Kwan than Cohen fan, and even I think there's no mistake - it was _clean_.
@liwancreatives
@liwancreatives 15 лет назад
well I guess its the same for salchow and Loop :)
@firebird264
@firebird264 13 лет назад
it was cheated, if you look closely, she rotates a full rotation on the ground then lifts of, you can do a half rotation but not a full one. The landing was clean, but the the take off was not, anyways, she is still one of the best womens skaters, if not, one of the best womens skaters ever in the sport.
@neonsweetiepie
@neonsweetiepie 11 лет назад
A salchow allows the skater to get enough power in order to do the jump.
@Cheydow
@Cheydow 15 лет назад
isnt that a triple?
@bbyiceyxxx
@bbyiceyxxx 16 лет назад
Try counting again.
@LloydJJ18
@LloydJJ18 16 лет назад
wth? that's a triple! she skates pretty and all but not a winner. she won nationals coz michelle wasnt there that year
@allthingsalien98
@allthingsalien98 13 лет назад
@dahmk i know... im still on bunnyhops eheheheheheh
@shadowedlight734
@shadowedlight734 16 лет назад
defo clean
@machineunit
@machineunit 14 лет назад
Wow I was lookjing for four-wheelers lol not figure skating moves...
@HummersAreDumber
@HummersAreDumber 15 лет назад
Yep, 'cuz cursing out everybody who disagrees with you makes you look smart.
@soshanna68
@soshanna68 15 лет назад
2 bad she didn't do this against Arakawa, Arakawa cleaned her clock; unfortunately so did her own teammates- kimmie meisner had a better performance.
@VWYL900802
@VWYL900802 15 лет назад
axel is harder. the swing has to be right.
@darrenmichael143
@darrenmichael143 16 лет назад
Single foot landing but hand down = incomplete jump. Jump not clean.
@jadeannee
@jadeannee 16 лет назад
3 1/4 rev...
@allthingsalien98
@allthingsalien98 13 лет назад
@danasuperstar its so sad eh
@미소-b8o
@미소-b8o 10 лет назад
Wow.... serious prerotation..... it's terrible to say it quadsalcow.....
@ericsingasong
@ericsingasong 16 лет назад
lol either way, she's a goner
@wobbles610
@wobbles610 13 лет назад
Yeah..it WAS slightly cheated but regardless, it was still an amazing jump :)
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