Saturday Live Show - Switching Back to Glute Injections (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) 

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Uh oh Trevor!! I really don't like to hear that. Super long story below you may want to read: My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer about six years ago and he went to one of the best oncologist in the Southeast. He's a miracle to be alive. basically prostate cancer is not a bad or aggressive cancer, but when you have prostate or any cancer that has metastasized and spread to say your liver like he had it makes it stage 4. if you have stage 4 cancer you're most likely terminal. Anyways he did all kinds of stuff including estrogen shots also known as hormone therapy to lower his testosterone down to basically zero because testosterone fuels prostate cancer and is the number-one enemy! His oncologist who went to Yale as well two other prestigious schools for 16 years total always repeats that about testosterone fueling prostate cancer. My father did the chemo and all sorts of things including eating perfectly, hormone therapy and an additional oral chemotherapy which is still on, low sugar diet and is perfectly healthy now 6 years no sign of the cancer anywhere but it could always change.. I love him I'm so grateful for my father! He Rocks. So humble. He'd do anything on earth for his kids. Anyways I suspect the numbers you put up that have increased from roughly 3 to 8 are something called PSA or prostate specific antigen. That's the number one indicator they test for likely prostate cancer. If I can remember correctly 8 is not insane but it's definitely alarming, especially if you're below 60 and especially if it's shot up like that very quickly. My father STILL gets his PSA done every 2 months and when he began his numbers were off the charts *way* above 8. His partner at his Law Firm was actually also diagnosed with prostate cancer several years after my father was but it did not metastasize and he actually had his prostate removed and is doing well now so his case was much more benign and his PSA I believe only got up to a 9.6 for your reference. I'm sure my father's was at least double or triple that maybe more. Now his PSA is like 0.03 or something incredibly good. So I don't like the fact that your PSA numbers were that high especially because I've chosen to go on trt as well with my family history of prostate cancer. I think your doctor did the right thing. Let me ask you this did you have your prostate exam? I remember in the beginning when my dad's numbers were off the chart he came to get his prostate exam one year and the doctor said he couldn't even feel his prostate because it was so swollen. Get your prostate exam anyways although if it was abnormal they would have done your PSA and you've already done that. I don't know if it's too risky to go back on trt or not? but knowing this, I think there's a lot of doctors who would not start you back. and that's scary to me because I really have had my quality of life improved tremendously on trt and what you wrote is something that scares the hell out of me because trt may very well ignite prostate cancer. the jury is still out on that actually. You'll have some people who think they know it all tell you it won't, but that's not true. the medical field has not had enough definitive findings either way yet.... or better put I think they've had findings both ways. the evidence and tests are still being collected. some say yes and there has some evidence that says no but no one has a definitive answer yet... I'm scared that the answer is most definitely yes. injecting exogenous testosterone CAN -will- most definitely ignite prostate cancer, especially in someone who's prone to it.

And I can tell you the guy who makes this channel doesn't have any good input on this topic because I've asked him before as I recall he didn't have much knowledge on the topic. As many on trt don't know. Can't blame him, just let him know what happened to you is possible. Not his fault. He makes great content but not on this specifically certainly not any better information than I can give you. Most on trt don't know how risky it may be, especially if they are already prone to prostate cancer. We are in a spot right now where the medical field has not given a definitive answer as trt has only become really widespread in the past decade . Yes it's been around for a long, long time prior, but not like it is these days. It's almost like it's become trendy and less taboo if you will. You see the commercials everywhere for low testosterone supplements with big-name endorsements like Athlete Frank Thomas many other's Etc. At the very least if you're on trt you need to get your PSA done at least twice a year. that's it. all it is is a simple blood test that men over a certain age should be doing anyways... I'm only 33 and been on trt for about 8 months and I'm getting ready to schedule my first PSA even though I'm much younger than typical age for prostate exam and PSA. I think if you really wanted to go back on trt you could do it just as long as you monitored your PSA regularly. There are some men who have higher PSA in the 6-8 range but they're normally 80 years old and that's in the high normal for that age. I don't like what happened to you and I'm very glad the results came back favorable and you are prostate cancer free my friend.

@@BuffaloNickel9 thank you for your reply 🙏 My dr agrees with your statements/feelings about T feeding cancer. I am 50yrs if age and a normal psa score should be below a 4. My family has a history of prostate cancer as well. Ive currently been off the T for 8 months and my psa # has lowered to a 4.9 , better but still high. Despite the T helping me feel great in many aspects of my life the reality is I likely won't ever be put back on it due to the potential of cancer. I appreciate your time and am grateful to this community's input. Hopefully my situation can also help enlighten others of the potential risks...

@@BuffaloNickel9 thank you so very much...your input is very valuable to many besides myself and extremely truthful and accurate. God Bless you , I pray your psa testing is positive and healthy as well as your continued journey on T 🙏

@@trevortimm7528 Thanks Trevor! Man, I didn't know you had a family history as well but it makes total sense along the lines of what I wrote. I really wonder if the family history makes us more prone or what findings will be released one day.... Or it could just be that everyone on trt has an elevated PSA but like in your case it doesn't always signal malicious prostate cancer... Come back to this thread and give me a shout if you ever find any good information you think I might should know. Like I said maybe it elevates everyone's psa to go on trt, just none of these guys are ever getting it tested... I'm telling you anytime I've ever asked, none of these trt guys have any clue there is a connection they should monitor closely...we know though I'm super happy you can breathe knowing you are okay. That was probably a little scary eh? Cheers

I use a 30x1/2, almost totally painless.

So splitting the doses, I’ve noticed that there is always oil left in the needle tip which is wasted. I use 25G. How to get around this?

@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT Make sure you are using 1ml and not 3ml syringe. HUGE difference. With 1ml or .5ml(at least the ones I use) there's pretty much nothing left. Otherwise some of the oil is left in the syringe and inside the needle. Now, you can't squeeze 100% of it, regardless what you use. You can only minimize the loss. Your testosterone vial does come with just a bit extra though to account for the loss. My estimate 10ml are about 10.5ml to account for the loss

@@DrYouMrTube I guess I didnt know the vials have a little extra oil in them. Nice to know. Right now I’m using 1ml syringe with 25g needle in the quads once a week. I read and hear of so many different opinions on where to inject and what size needles and how often that I just don’t know if I should change what I’m doing or not. I’m just going to my urologist and they keep things very basic and don’t really get into the nitty gritty like I see online. Honestly what I’m doing seems to be working for me but I am curious if I could improve.

@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT 27g+ is a MUCH smaller needle, less scarring, less pain. You have years to play with syringes and gauges. I've read of TOO many stories of quad injections going wrong and guys limping for up to a week. I am surprised any doctor would recommend it. It's an ADVANCED site and not for beginners. Never done quads, not going to start now considering so many other places.

@@DrYouMrTube I need to try the glutes. I’ve heard stories of guys having incidents with their sciatic nerve but they probably just didn’t know the correct location to inject. I know it’s upper quadrant but I haven’t tried it yet.

I do the same, it’s awesome!!

I do the same

You must’ve hit a nerve. It’s pretty rare but it happens.

Same here. I tried thigh injection and it would be very painful for 3 days afterwards. I’m going back to glute injections.

Do subcutaneous injections pinching your belly fat and going just under skin with 28 or 29 gauge insulin syringe, which you can buy at Walgreens or CVS. Much less traumatic of an experience than going intramuscular. Have you ever used testosterone? If not man your life's about to change for the better.

@@trey2735 I was prescribed Axiron Gel a few years ago. I took it for about 6 months and had no improvement at all from it. It was a mess to deal with and a danger to my wife and children so I quit taking it. None of my doctors would prescribe me injections so I contacted a local TRT clinic. They are going to be consulting with the pharmacy this morning before they approve my prescription. The nurse mentioned IM injections with a 3/4” length needle. I’m not sure what gauge. I will ask him about subcutaneous. Thank you!

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I also use 25g no matter where I hit

I also can get away with 5/8 with my ventrogluteal muscle which was actually my last spot I hit on Wednesday I do 1cc every 7-8 days it is 300mg/ml which is kind of high yeah but lower doses don’t raise me that much at 300mg/ week I’m at about 800-1000ng/dl

@@NaturalMushroom Hey Kyle. I strongly recommend start splitting that 300 Mgs up to multiple shots a week my friend. and do some further research watching channels like moreplatesmoredates who's just about the leading expert on modern trt. you've got to get an insulin needle and try your delts. If you don't want to do that, that's fine I think the 25 gauge 5/8 length or 1-inch length as you stated are the way to go if you're going to pin anything in the glutes. Absolutely. That's where I was until I tried delts and got my insulin syringes. It's almost painless and there's not near as much fat on your delts, so you don't need a 1 inch. I use 28G 1/2 inch and just like the literature shows it's made my blood serum T concentration levels much more steady by injecting 4 times a week as well as my free and total testosterone have raised another 12% on the exact same weekly dosage just by pinning smaller amounts more frequently. 300 mg shot all at once is an insane amount of liquid. the dose itself is not insane at all though. I've been on 300 mgs before and some gentlemen need that much- honestly. You just got to start splitting that 300 up at the absolute least 100 mg's 3 times a week, but the more often you pin the more stable and better results you'll get mimicking the body's natural production. If I were you I'd get a 28 gauge 1/2 inch insulin needle and move to my Delts @ 75 mgs 4x a week or 100mg 3x weekly Just my two cents from someone who's talked to more men than I can count who are on trt. Good luck brother

@@BuffaloNickel9 yeah I’ve been thinking about that to help keep my levels stable because I’ve been breaking out mostly on my back, I am using test Cypionate which the half life supposedly is 6-8 days, that’s why I was thinking I could get away with once a week but obviously not lol, and I do watch MPMD he’s pretty cool.

Only when I was injecting 150mg/week soon after I first started. My doc increased my dosage amount to 150mg, then once we did blood work again and he saw my red blood cell count was elevated, he reduced me down. That fixed it.

@@trtcommunity9248 they started me at 180 and it crept to 51... then we lowered it to 150 and 2 months later I was at 54... now I'm at 120 and I donated blood... if you don't mind me asking what are you at now? Do you have a FaceBook Community?

@@robvidalbjj I inject about 90mg/week now. I inject 45mg on Monday and 45 on Thurs. That seems to work just right for me. No, I don't actually have a Facebook community. There is a TRT Community on Facebook but it's not run by me. He and I just happen to have chosen the same name on two different platforms.

@@trtcommunity9248 Is there a way for me to communicate with you directly?

@@robvidalbjj Sure. Feel free to email me here: trtcommunity27 @ gmail . com (no spaces) Happy to help any way I can.

Haha! Go for it, I think you'll be much happier... if I recall correctly this guy made the switch from glutes to delts in the beginning, so maybe there just comes a time when you have to switch it up. I did as well. Now I use a 28 gauge 5/16 length small insulin needle on my delts and it was the best decision I made. even at three times a week I just don't see how it could ever amount to me having to change spots it's so small and almost painless sometimes. I've read literature and seen the numbers where keeping your blood serum T concentration more steady by injecting at 3 or more times a week with a small insulin needle in the delts produces better free and total numbers Do it tons of men out there having great success with it!

Right after I sent that comment, you started talking about subq. Nevermind lol.

Hey Im on 125mg/ week at 100mg/ml ester...how about you ?

I’m on 140 mg a week and 1/4 on a pill for ester

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Is your testosterone ester 100mg/ml ? Or 200mg/ml ?

140 ml test

Good eye! Yes sir it is. Always wanted one since watching the BTTF movies as a kid.

😂Ouch

I agree. It's thinning for sure. If I could make it grow back I would.

@@trtcommunity9248 hair is just superficial brother.

I don't actually die my hair. It's just thinning. I would shave it, but my wife likes the way I have it now, so I'll keep it this way for a bit longer.

@@trtcommunity9248 well...well said then my internet friend...thats pretty much the trump card:).thanks for the interaction

@@trtcommunity9248 i forgotwhat your weekly dose is again??im on 100