Robbie Clarke hell No! Lawrence escaped but Adam did and (SPOILER ALERT) after the game prepair some one I don't remember the name said they could "help Adam" but really didn so um yea....
I remember getting goosebumps during this scene upon seeing it in the theater so much that it made me want to go back and re-watch the first movie. The first three SAW movies were the best in the series, and it went extremely downhill and got ridiculous afterwards. The unfortunate thing was that sequels were always constantly inevitable since they always kept ending on a cliffhanger like a crime drama Television series.
In a deleted scene, we learn that hours before she knocked him out and kidnapped him, Amanda encountered him in his apartment. He complimented her hair, gave her a ticket to his friend's concert, and flirtatiously took a picture of her, if you didn't know. You can tell how uneasy she is in it.
The fact that she started sobbing when she goes back to kill him is heart wrenching she didn't want to do it but she felt she needed to put adam out of his misery.
One of my favorite scenes this, John must be talking to Zepp when he looks into that mirror and says "it's time to start our game" I reckon. Another thing is Mallick didn't burn the nerve gas house down as the "8 people" don't add up to the bodies in there - Adam and Zepp and Xaviers bodies where not found as they are still there in Saw 3D. However Mallick mentioned his drug dealer went missing after the house was burnt down so - that would be Xavier so the fire was before Saw 2!
@@elijahhloves2readHow fitting that amanda had her own test rigged and paid the price of dying at the hands of one of her test subjects who ironically was a revenge filled man.
To the guy who thought they would've took the gun and shot jigsaw whether he was dead or not: you wouldn't shoot jigsaw because no one even knew who he was until the end of Saw 1 where Adam found the tape recorder in Zepp's pocket and jigsaw rose off the floor. In case anyone is wondering how a cancer patient could lay still all that time he used a sedative to relax his muscles and enabling him to control his own breathing.
I interpret it as John is so insanely specific in John's mind about how things are supposed to be (Jill even mentions how everything is strictly planned with him) that even the minor details like that are pre-planned by him, just for the sake of how borderline OCD he is
Now Adam was supposed to be able to walk around the bathroom without be shackled. Only if Amanda put the key around Adam's neck instead of throwing it on his chest. Mistake on her. Because Adam's game was supposed to stay alive doing so with thr ability to walk. He wanted to shackle on his left so he could easily reach the toilet with the pictures and saws.
Given where he and everything was positioned, it gave the victims a different limitation on their reach, in being able to do things like reach the hacksaws, the gun, and other things related to his game. Jigsaw designed and calculated everything with scientific perfection.
"When Leigh Whannell asked Cary Elwes what he thought about his character's fate on the commentary for the Saw: Uncut Edition DVD, Elwes responded with, "Let's face it, guys. He's severed his whole leg off. The loss of blood alone, even with that pathetic tourniquet he made with his shirt. It's a wrap. He's not going to get two blocks." Gordon had no way to gom no way to save himself.
@@Carlos-np7du He and Tapp were pretty similar as they were the smartest cops who got so close to solving the Jigsaw case but their own obsession worked against them.
Adam could have smashed his foot like Eric Mathews did or tried to saw his own foot with the Gordon Saw.These were the only options for him.He did not sacrificed foot crushing for his life and that's why he died.
If you think about it. Adam is the real winner of the game. He survived till 6. Gordon's game was supposed to kill Adam before 6. Or Allison and Diana would die. Thats why Zepp said "You're to late" Adam was supposed to get let free
@@crypt5129 I mean do you blame him. Its not his fault the key went down the drain. It was all Amanda. And John eventually figures it out. He said something around the line of "You made your games unwinnable" and it shows a clip of Amanda throwing the key on him, instead of wrapping it around his neck. John didn't know that at the time and electrocuted Adam because he thought he was selfish. And locked him in there...
Not to be rude people, but seriously if you've gotta ask 20 questions just about this flashback alone you need to seriously consider watching or re-watching the entire series. You appreciate this scene so much more.
Amanda sabotaged Adam's chance to free himself, she was meant to tie the key to the cork of the bath plug but instead she just threw it in causing it to go down the plughole when Adam finally awoke. And that's when Amanda's sabotaging of the "games" begun :D
@@shamunra3621because when Jigsaw got up he told Adam "the key to that chain is in the bathtub" but it wasn't because Amanda didn't safeguard it from going down the drain
@@DeathBringer9216he knew amanda had rigged adams game and made it unwinnable from the start. if she had just put it in his pocket or tried ways to prevent it from going down the drain, Adam and Laurence both couldve won
His key wasn't supposed to go down the drain though; Amanda tied the plug to his ankle, causing the bath to drain, and the key along with it. That explains how Jigsaw still thought that the key was still in the bath at the end of I.
you are right, since he is in there and knocked out, why do people think he is involved with John and his scheme? If he was involved with John he would have been still awake and not on the floor. Plus why would he cut off his foot?
come to think of it adam actually could have lived a while in that bathroom. he had the bathtub behind him which he could get water from. and when he got really desparate, he had zepp there... so if doctor gordon did come back with help he still had a chance of survival. you can live for a month or two without food, but only a couple of days without water
adam shouldn't have been left to rott in that bathroom and the key shouldn't have went down the drain but found it in the bathtub later on and got out of that trap alive
I distinctly recall a moment where Amanda made sure Adam would unintentionally drain the tub upon waking up but it doesn't seem to be in this clip... But yeah, he was supposed to be able to get out when John stood up and told him the key was right there. On what may potentially be viewed as a plus by some people, Adam didn't rot in the bathroom, Amanda came back to suffocate him to death.
Whoa, Gordon must of either been awake this entire time, or just immediately woke up after Amanda shut the door. Because she just put Adam in the tub full of water, with him submerging. Wouldn't take that long for him to react to that in the water, and when he gets out (only say half a minute after Amanda leaves) Gordon is awake, and says he's already tries yelling for help. Weird huh?
Doubt so if he was involved in someway it would've shown as a flashback in one of the other Saw movies but I haven't seen one. But maybe he was just observing the game like when in Saw 1 the fat guy bled to death in the razor maze, or could have been building another trap for another player. That's my guess anyway
Miss Deejay Perhaps he was getting the house ready for the game in SAW 2... Idk. I was just always curious of that. Even better question... Did James Wan know Hoffman was a bad guy in SAW 3? Hence when it first showed him.
It's as Kerry said "looks like our friend Jigsaw likes to bokk himself front row seats to his own sick little game" He just likes to watch his games being played out.
@rayneboy1 If someone actually did shoot themselves in the middle of the room, blood wouldn't have gotten on the sink, which is why he wiped it. I guess he's just trying to keep it as real as possible. Nice idea but I wouldn't look deep into that.
In terms of the theory of Adam, I think it may be possible : - Changing the foot of the chain. - He could have played the comedy while Amanda kill him with a plastic bag - He had a relationship with Amanda, so it may be possible that Amanda changes her mind at the last minutes before he died .. we can see her cry when she chokes and fall, so we can assume it has stopped
watch them all, you'll see, and be careful :P don't ask people to tell you things especially about the Saw series cause one little detail will spoil the entire series
so true, Adam nudged just a bit at 1:59. even dom from inception woke with THE KICK, which was only a bit worse than a water entrance. the powerful sedative is surely challenged by liquid
@LawrenceGordon92 his indentity was not know back then when he went to the insurance company. He could have easily paid for the the treatment himself, but like he said in saw VI, it was the principle of the thing, he wanted the treatment from William not because he could afford it but because it was the right thing to do for the company, to help sick people any way possible instead of letting those people die they find unworthy of living or to expensive to cover.
yes zepp and jigsaw teamed up but only because jigsaw had the antidote for the poison in zepps body but it doesnt matter any way cause adam smashes zepps face with a cinderblock and kills him and jigsaw locks adam in the room and that led to adams death. but here something u wonder when they open the door to the bathroom in the saw 2 is that adams body with the white shirt and jeans cause my friend says its not but i say it is do anybody care to give me an answer plz?
@rayneboy1 Wouldn't seem strange to see blood all over the sink, while the guy it LOOKS like the blood came from is on the other side of the room, apparently dead? Every little detail counts...
She's sweating from having to handle Adam from the time she attacked him to bringing him to John. She had to all this part by herself. In this flashback, around the time she started working for John, I think she cut her hair as a symbol. Plus it ties into why her hair was short for Part 2, the events of which happened not long after Part 1.
I don't understand, If amandas hair was short when john intergrated her in his mission why was it long when John first approached her directly after she testified to the police about the trap? it was also light, meaning she must've dyed it darker and cut her hair.
really? I didn't know that where did you find out? I actually thought she did it without jigsaw knowing but it doesnt make any sense because if it is so why were there two saws instead of one, and it makes the game unffair for Dr.gordon because Adam could get free after he woke up get out call for help and saving Dr. gordon and his family and the game would be over quickly and pointless
another reason for that is the director told him to hide his face cause whoever the original actor of doctor gordon was wasnt available and also had a lawsuite with the makers. Well i think the lawsuite ended about saw 4?
Jigsaw died, so did Amanda. Only Marc remained as far as whe know, we will know what happens to him in Saw VI. The movies are mostly made of flashbacks. You really should pay more attention when you are watching these movies.
I believe with Jigsaw. In Saw V you see him and John kidnap the fat guy from Saw 1 who sliced his wrists for attention and was put in the barbed wire cage. So I believe he and Amanda joined Jigsaw around the same time.
@icywolf1 Those examples are from III, IV and V. If someone is in a profession that has a title then he'll refer to them as that - for example he calls Larry G "Dr. Gordon" instead of "Lawrence", but he never uses their last name on its own, it's always with "Officer" or "Agent" or whatever attached.
There was no poison in the pigs blood on the floor. Do you really think John was going to lay for hours in poisoned blood? It was just a lie to see what Gordon would do.
@rayneboy1 ok, guys. Now I see why John wiped the sink. unfortunately, there most likely was no extra hidden key in the left sink :' (. If you look at 0:34, you can see his glow in the dark paintbrush lying on the sink's rim, so naturally John would wipe the glowindark paint off of it. Otherwise it would look pretty weird to Adam and Gordon that a random thing is glowing in the dark besides the "X". (why the hell did they not incorporate X in the rest of the movies? it's such a genius idea)
ya and that wud b more twisted bcause the person who cut off there leg wud let the other person but they wud have 2 kut there leg 2 save the other person
Yes, this is that Amanda. You kind of have to watch the first two Saw movies to understand, but in Saw 1, she said that Jigsaw "helped her" since she was a drug addict and beating the trap in that one made her appreciate life more. So she became his apprentice.
@bandgeek8986 My understanding of what happened was that when she went back it was some time after the events of the first movie. At this point Amanda had turned against Jigsaws rules because she went back to make sure Adam was dead. Although it was argued that Jigsaw knew she'd do it so he left the bodies there for a while to test her responses.
This is Amanda's first trap setup. She knows that by going through with this one and helping Jigsaw, there is no turning back. So she's conflicted and scared right now. This flashback scene is supposed to occur during the events of Saw 1, when John had cancer and he was undergoing chemotherapy.
The Saw (2004) & Saw II (2005) sets are so exact that they look as if they're the same ones used in the original films. The Saw producers asked if they could use the bathroom set from this film for Saw III (2006).
@FlechFisher i made a bad comment. If you look at 0:32, you can see his glow in the dark paintbrush lying on the sink's rim, so naturally John would wipe the glowindark paint off of it. Otherwise it would look pretty weird to Adam and Gordon that a random thing is glowing in the dark besides the "X" I keep thinking of ways gordon and adam couldve escaped without cutting off their feets, but now im sure there probably was no key in that sink
Ok so gordon is already in there and close to the door... also gets a lot of advantages for the game... also jigsaws face is pointing towards adam... and his hands are full.,...how could he have possibly shocked adam or gordon... his hands were filled with things tape in one and gun in other....and his heart rate is slowed down it would be impossible to push a button... maybe gordon slid it to him... or something i durno.... thoughts concerns? ami talking out of ass
That's because Jigsaw gives people second chances. What I mean by that is this: Amanda is there. Why? Because she survived and did what had to be done to survive. At this time in this clip, I'm sure Gordon is not Jigsaw's apprentice because he had to saw his foot off, but what about afterwords? We never see him again. And he did finish the game, right? He essentially killed Adam by leaving him there to die. MAYBE he's still alive and using his 2nd chance at life that Jigsaw gave him.
has anyone thought about the possibility that had gordon been an innocent victim of the bathroom game like adam was then would they of been any point of the producers in showing us this flashback of john and amanda setting up this game before it took place. i don't think that they would of done because if gordon was not involved in this game then i assume that he would not of escaped the bathroom so i think that he must of known about this trap before he was placed in it and who put him in there
to answer your question salt and pepper jigsaw takes a setitive that slows his heart rate and gives him a calm focus so he was wide awake but it gave him the patients to lay there the whole time but it relaxes his muscles and slows his heart rate so he looks dead and its not possible to see him move from an untrained eye. and if ther were not chained and they checked his pulse it would not be detectible.
Actually, he was in all honesty. Not saying I support any of these idiotic arguments, just clarifying that he was a surgeon. Maybe not your mainstream 'surgeon' that you hear about, but an oncologist deals with cancer patients: diagnosing them, therapy (surgery, chemo, etc etc), follow-ups, screenings, etc. So in all technicality, he -was- a surgeon. Not to mention, in the beginning of Saw 1, Adam asks 'what are you, some kind of surgeon?' and Gordon goes 'yeah.' Just clearing that up ;P
