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Sawmill 101. How I Size Up Logs For The Best Yeild. 

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@JohnSmith-tv5ep
@JohnSmith-tv5ep 4 года назад
Moving dirt is somewhat milling trees, only difference is ,with a tree,once you take a cut,....you cant put the material back ! LOL good stuff!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thanks, John!
@northwestwildandfree1505
@northwestwildandfree1505 4 года назад
Really enjoy your videos. Also we’re practically neighbors. I think I am between you and the coast. I have been haulin rock from near the rest area on 26 to green mountain road off Pihl road near the Dairy Queen on 26 at Manning.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I’m in Estacada.
@_DeFiNiTeLy_Not_BrAd_
@_DeFiNiTeLy_Not_BrAd_ 2 года назад
You mention the chestnut log at the end, do you have American chestnut trees near you that are alive and dropping nuts?
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 2 года назад
There were several trees on a job site I was working on that’s probably within 20-25 miles of me.
@danhansen5584
@danhansen5584 2 года назад
What is the difference in the blades you are using and the 747’s? Thanks
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 2 года назад
The 747s have a deeper gullet and do a really nice job of removing the sawdust from the cut.
@butternuthillfarm1599
@butternuthillfarm1599 4 года назад
Nicely done. I've tried the 747 blades and really like them, but the Bimetal blades are still my favorite for hardwood. Expensive, ut stay sharp much longer. Can't wait for the chestnut!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I do like the Bi-Metals too. They're spendy but sure last long.
@Twangg1
@Twangg1 4 года назад
rule of thumb... if you need the max cant you can get from perfectly round log (as if those really existed), simply multiply diameter inside bark by .7...
@TedAlexander24
@TedAlexander24 4 года назад
When you get through milling fence boards, I would love to see you go dimensional and make a patio table. Looking forward to your video tomorrow.
@chrisseats
@chrisseats 4 года назад
So when you suspect the center of the log is no good, can you plan your cuts from the outside in and get similar results, or will the yield always be smaller cutting like that?
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Well, the problem is, you never know how bad it is until you open it all up. You kind of have to spend the time processing it to know exactly what you’re going to be left with. In the video I made the next day, I have a Chestnut log with a soft center on the end but it didn’t end up going all the way through the log.
@wayneweis653
@wayneweis653 2 года назад
Time is $. Looks like you are making the most lumber in the amount of time.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 2 года назад
I do my best😬
@TheBeardedGiant
@TheBeardedGiant 4 года назад
Hmm, I am feeling a little punky. I think I am going to make a tape measure holder/pouch...to the other viewers of this video that statement may not make sense, but Jason get's it...LOL... Take care and good video...
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
A little punky Brewster? I hope your cat will let you make me a tape pouch😂
@corymiller3219
@corymiller3219 4 года назад
I wasn't very impressed with the 747 maybe just me. I'm in eastern Oregon so I don't cut exactly the same tree species you do most of the time. Love the videos try to catch them as often as possible.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thanks, Cory. They’re about the same price as the Double-Hard blades I normally use so hopefully they work at least as well as the DHs do.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 4 года назад
man than green hat sure does stick out,
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I didn’t want to get the black one all sweaty😂
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 4 года назад
@@NorthwestSawyer lol good comeback,
@TheFabled1
@TheFabled1 4 года назад
Do you own the company you work for or just work there? and what is the best way to get into heavy machine operation in your opinion?
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
If I owned the company I’d never have time to sawi🤣🤣. I’ve been an operator for 28 years. To me, the best way to get into it is to start as a laborer. You really need to know what’s happening on the ground in order to be a good operator. As it was explained to me in my youth, “a monkey can pull levers, an operator knows how to make the levers work”.
@d6c10k4
@d6c10k4 4 года назад
Don't know what blade you're using but I normally see the kerf more like .10" or a little more.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I’m running Double Hard blades currently.
@VKMilling
@VKMilling 4 года назад
@@NorthwestSawyer I calculate 1/8" for the kerf of the blade and it is dead on but I run 21-25 thou in set which I think is also what WM's set is. When I did 1/16" it didn't work for every blade due to variances in kerf.
@TheBeardedWoodworker
@TheBeardedWoodworker 4 года назад
Nice little video, Jason! Seem to learn every time I watch one of your videos. I see you stopped because you ran into soft spots, but how far down does the blade go? Could you actually saw that last board of 3/4" or whatever the thickness was? Can't wait for the chestnut! Later, Dude!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thanks, Gary. 3/4 of an inch is as low as you can safely go.
@TheBeardedWoodworker
@TheBeardedWoodworker 4 года назад
@@NorthwestSawyer that's amazing! Thanks
@TheBeardedGiant
@TheBeardedGiant 4 года назад
@@TheBeardedWoodworker Hello Gary
@TheBeardedWoodworker
@TheBeardedWoodworker 4 года назад
@@TheBeardedGiant Hey Andrew!
@TheBeardedGiant
@TheBeardedGiant 4 года назад
The Bearded Woodworker we could make this video a message board. Do you think a healthy dose of dialog in the comments will signal the algorithm that this is a video worth promoting?
@sroyal76
@sroyal76 2 года назад
I have a question. I am about to mill a ton of lumber. When the Doug Fir is still wet how much extra should you cut to account for the shrinkage? Like if I am cutting 2X6's....should I cut a full 2"X6" or closer to the 1.5"X5.5". Will that change much when cutting headers. Thanks. I will be stacking and drying this prior to use for construction.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 2 года назад
On 2x lumber I tend to mill an eighth over the 1.5x5.5 for shrinkage. It doesn’t lose too much.
@zeke1eod
@zeke1eod 4 года назад
Excellent video as usual! Thanks for sharing your layout! Great job, love any milling video even fence board! Stay safe, God bless
@mikef7306
@mikef7306 3 года назад
what octane fuel do you use in your lt35?
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 3 года назад
I run non-ethanol super unleaded only.
@stevenhorgan1046
@stevenhorgan1046 2 года назад
You are a credit to people like myself who now understand a little of what is in your bones .. ( lumber ) The time you take to explain the importance of what you do actually unlocks what is possible as a business. I'm looking to purchase a 20ft container of live edge "wainey edge" red wood 3inch x 30 + inch x 8ft slabs shipped to the UK.... ( used for table tops ) Regards are sent from Yorkshire. Steven.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 2 года назад
Thank you, Steven. I love hearing that my videos help folks, even it just a little. Best of luck finding your lumber. Cheers!
@murrayhall908
@murrayhall908 3 года назад
Hi Jason, Taking you up on a question. I noticed that the Woodmizer shop had a notice up with a Re-sharp facility at the rear of the building. Do you always use new blades or do ever have your old ones sharpened? Cheers
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 3 года назад
I’ve never had a blade resharpened. I have a bunch to take in but they have a really long turn around time so I’ve always just bought more.
@tomsommer54
@tomsommer54 2 года назад
Great video. It was just what I’ve been needing. I have about 6 hours on my new Mill and I a little confused still on how to size up the log, so thank you. I’m cutting cedar right now. Not as big as your cutting. It’s red cedar.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 2 года назад
Thank you, Tom! I love comments like this. Congratulations on your mill!
@Brian-mc4pd
@Brian-mc4pd 4 года назад
Good video. Are those 1550 fence boards used right off the mill, or will they be put in a kiln first? I've seen several videos where things like barn siding could dry right on the structure and it was somehow accounted for. Thanks and take care.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Yes. The cedar can be used right away.
@billtufts580
@billtufts580 4 года назад
How low can you get to the deck of your mill. Do you ever lay a board underneath when you get to the very bottom to keep from hitting metal?
@2blackdanes
@2blackdanes 4 года назад
Bill Tufts the saw stops about an inch from the deck so it can’t hit it. The only metal he could hit are the braces and log lock if he doesn’t remember to reposition them and any metal hidden in the trees.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Bill, Shemp is mostly correct. While the saw can’t hit the deck, I’ve found that the nut on the de-barker wheel can hang up on it. The last board on the deck can be as thin as 3/4”.
@ronwood7040
@ronwood7040 4 года назад
I just tried a 747 blade, on red oak. I haven't notice that much of a difference. I normally run 7degree double hard. I have been making a lot of fence boards also. I cut 3" x 5/8 for batten strips also. Happy milling Ron
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Double Hard 7s are what I’m running now also.
@oldschoolmachinist1938
@oldschoolmachinist1938 4 года назад
Hey Jason, good to see you're still at, I thought maybe you went on vacation! I see that the same Sawmill package was still sitting outside WM's door when you went to pick up your blades, I was there several days before to pick up my 48in canthook. I want to hear more about the 747 blades how you like and or dislike them. Stay safe and take care.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Vacation? What’s that?😬
@bwillan
@bwillan 4 года назад
Great video on laying out the log. However, shouldn't the head scratching and figuring be done on the small end of the log? That's the limiting factor of the lumber yield from the log.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
That is true. I like to cut from the big end for a few reasons. I’ve found that when I cut from the small end, I end up taking more off in my first cut and possibly wasting a board or two. Also, if you start at the big end, you know for certain that your log will pass through the saw head all the way down the cut. Even a log that dimensionally should fit can be positioned on the deck off-centered to the saw head. I’m basically showing here how I do it. There’s definitely more than one way to do it.
@roughcutscanada
@roughcutscanada 4 года назад
I have the same mill and have been using the 10 degree blades for the past two years. I'd be curious how you make out with the 747 blades.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
So far so good. I cut up a nice American Chestnut log today. I’m hoping to have the video up tonight.
@denniscampbell8240
@denniscampbell8240 4 года назад
Nice work ,,,,,stay cool ,,,you never know what your gonna get out of a log ,,,,wood mizer lt15 owner .....love my saw mill
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thanks, Dennis!
@jamieself3949
@jamieself3949 4 года назад
NW Sawyer ... this is still my favorite channel! I have actually been thinking about a Wood-Mizer mill as well for next Spring. I don’t live far from the Wood-Mizer in NC. Good stuff and thank you for making your videos.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Wow! Thanks, Jamie! A Wood-Mizer will change your life😬
@ausky7
@ausky7 4 года назад
Blah Blah Blah...Math...Blah Blah...Pith...Blah blah...Math... Made my brain hurt, but another great vid buddy
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
😂😂😂 well you’ll like the one I’m editing now. No math, just sexy lumber.
@jbbrown7907
@jbbrown7907 4 года назад
Tell them at work you need time to make videos.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I’ll let you know how that goes!😬
@almonjacob3496
@almonjacob3496 4 года назад
All that math, seams like it takes the fun out of it! Now I'll have to apologize to my High School math teacher!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
🤣
@egraham9049
@egraham9049 4 года назад
Glad you are back! Do you figure 1/16 for the kurf, some how I thought it was 1/8. Thanks
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
It depends on the blade and wood you’re running but in my case, an extra 1/16” on my simpleset gives me exactly what I’m looking for.
@cgoodwin2875
@cgoodwin2875 4 года назад
Nice instructional video but crikey it is easier in metric. So much less working out.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
You’re definitely correct. If we ever commit to switching over.
@royramey5659
@royramey5659 Год назад
Sorry 36 boards , i was using hillbilly math
@davidbee8793
@davidbee8793 4 года назад
Very instructional for a layman like me. Learned a new term too, flitch. Really like the nomenclature of wood milling.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thanks, David!
@geoffreykail9129
@geoffreykail9129 4 года назад
How come you didn't come up from your cant lines on the flitches and cut those while still on the log?
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Because I want to cut cants out of them instead of having to edge-saw each flitch. I don’t have a resaw and doing on the mill is super time consuming.
@paulthompson8613
@paulthompson8613 4 года назад
Glad to see your O K hope the change was as good as a rest nice to see the housing plot again fingers crossed i win the lottery love to live there . ;-)
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Good luck, Paul!
@royramey5659
@royramey5659 Год назад
A 12 x 18 can't will make 18 1/2 x 5 1/2 boards
@jedanderson5958
@jedanderson5958 4 года назад
What do you end up doing with the scrap pieces , also do you cut any live edge for yourself
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I burn a lot of the scraps but I also find myself finding uses for some of it. I built a chicken coop recently and used a lot of the leftover flitches for siding. I’ve cut live edge slabs that were used for shelving in my wife’s hair salon.
@VKMilling
@VKMilling 4 года назад
I don't do fencing under 1" thick anymore. I did an order a few years ago of about 2500 boards @ 10' and I was done with that mess. Took way too long to get it all milled down and it was all white oak so.... yeah. I have a couple of things that will help you out. I will pretty them up and send them to you when I have some free time this week.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I couldn’t imagine sawing that much oak. This cedar cuts like butter. I just don’t have the logs to make it all.
@VKMilling
@VKMilling 4 года назад
@@NorthwestSawyer Heh, according to my sales database, 83% of what I saw is red/white oak. Roughly 80 mbf a year.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
VK Milling & Hardwoods 😳😳😳
@helensarkisian7491
@helensarkisian7491 3 года назад
I would never have imagined that you could get more than 20 boards out of the first log. 54? Clearly I’m not a sawyer.
@stevehartz4615
@stevehartz4615 Год назад
Wouldn't be cool if it cut both ways.
@TheFabled1
@TheFabled1 4 года назад
up late editing? Thanks for the vid!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
No, sir. My internet is awful out here in the sticks. It took almost 7 hours to upload.
@karlmorrison7933
@karlmorrison7933 4 года назад
CANT WAIT TO SEE HOW WELL THE 747 BLADE WORKX!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
STAY TUNED!
@edgarmilson8686
@edgarmilson8686 4 года назад
I see that Woodmizer wants $100:000 for the lt70 sawmill. I can not wait to see how many get sold. Regards, Edgar
@davidunderwood4341
@davidunderwood4341 3 года назад
I would just lay it all out on the narrow side to get rid of the guess work. Nice video though!
@kevintulak9987
@kevintulak9987 3 года назад
Can you resharpen your blades? Thanks for sharing.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 3 года назад
I can have them resharpened but I don’t have the tools to do it myself.
@bernardlainey4087
@bernardlainey4087 Год назад
How much do it cost for a box of blades?
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer Год назад
I paid about $350 for a box of 15 if I remember correctly.
@bernardlainey4087
@bernardlainey4087 Год назад
@@NorthwestSawyer thanks
@VTKingdomsawing
@VTKingdomsawing 4 года назад
Hi NWS! I'm soon to be a NES. I've only milled vicariously thru you and other toobers. Okay, I've dabbled with other people's mills. But I have a lot to learn and I'm really excited to finally take delivery of my brand new LT35 hydro in a few weeks. These types of videos are helpful in shortening that learning curve that's surely coming! Thanks and best regards from Vermont 👍
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Congratulations, Mark! I know I watched the heck out of RU-vid when I was waiting for my mill too. You have a lot of fun ahead of you!
@VTKingdomsawing
@VTKingdomsawing 4 года назад
I already have 3 customers wanting to bring me their logs. This mill just might pay for itself, despite my wife's skepticism. But she's otherwise supportive and excited too!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Mark Mine paid for itself in 6 months in my spare time. I got pretty lucky with a commercial client but it can happen!
@adammoore7994
@adammoore7994 3 года назад
Never considered converting to decimal to make those calcs. Great tip!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 3 года назад
Happy to help!
@pawpawjimfromtexasjandjsaw3262
@pawpawjimfromtexasjandjsaw3262 4 года назад
Havent seen you saw for a while. My wife and i got us a mill a 40 wide with simple set while you were out playing with big boy toys in the dirt. thats a great order you got for fenceing boards.
@joshuadunn882
@joshuadunn882 4 года назад
I understand if you don't want to answer my question but for the 1500 fence boards you have to cut what sort of money would you expect to get per board or board foot or whatever? As I said I understand if you'd rather not answer. Great stuff as always 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thank you! For the 5/8 thick boards, $1.75. 800 of them are to be 3/4” and they’re $2.28.
@joshuadunn882
@joshuadunn882 4 года назад
@@NorthwestSawyer Wow!!! That's a very good wage. I know you have to pay for blades, more logs etc but you'd pay for a mill in little time.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Joshua that price is if I don’t have to buy the logs. It goes up depending on the price of the logs. But you’re correct. I paid for my mill in the first 6 months of owning it. The RU-vid videos have earned enough to buy the mill and 10 years worth of blades!
@joshuadunn882
@joshuadunn882 4 года назад
@@NorthwestSawyer Wow!! That is excellent going. Fair play to ya. A sound investment indeed.
@floydbrennan9300
@floydbrennan9300 4 года назад
Awesome job sir good to see one of your videos it's been awhile
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
It’s good to be back. Hopefully works slows down a little soon.
@johnpoupore6993
@johnpoupore6993 3 года назад
Have you ever thought about adapting a Lube-Mizer to work on the lt35?
@LordRustyMcAlpin
@LordRustyMcAlpin 3 года назад
Don't you dare throw that away.
@johnm.515
@johnm.515 4 года назад
Magnetic tape on the top of that level would relieve the pain of your third hand.
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 Год назад
I just got a mill too. Like the commenter below I'm working the bugs out in mine. Also, I'm very quickly discovering why trees die. There's nearly always something wrong with them from a saw miller's POV. The amount of effort collecting logs, placing them, setting up the toeboard for taper compensation for the comparatively low yield is dawning on me. I'm learning a lot thanks to you and a few other channels. I absolutely love some of the comments more experienced people than I, make too. For example one commenter wrote a rule of thumb is multiply the small end of the log by .7 to get the cant size. It's true! As sure as night turns to day true. Another great comment was large logs for smaller lumber sizes increases productivity and decreases waste and conversely when you want say 12x12" use smaller logs to get just that size. This is great knowledge so I back worked out, multiply the cant by 1.43 to find the log size you need. I think I'm going to build a solar kiln and start using some of my good healthy and alive straight trees at some point because milling even very good looking fallen logs seems like a mug's game - it is so hit and miss with far more miss than hit like perhaps 80-20 for where I live.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer Год назад
Congratulations on your mill! I’ve definitely learned a lot by watching other sawyers so I’m happy to give back what I can. Every once in a while those downed logs will give you something amazing😉
@TERRORoftheLORD
@TERRORoftheLORD 4 года назад
Was just wondering what your plan was to cut down to a 5/8" board? Does your mill cut that low?
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
It doesn’t. I have a slab of wood I put on the deck that will hold the last board up around two inches and that lets me cut the last two boards.
@TERRORoftheLORD
@TERRORoftheLORD 4 года назад
@@NorthwestSawyer That is an excellent tip!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I have a video where I show the process but I’m not sure which one it is😬
@jimmowers7675
@jimmowers7675 4 года назад
Good morning. Great video. Have a great day.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thank you, Jim! You Too!
@karencary3312
@karencary3312 4 года назад
So glad your back. You have been missed.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thanks, Karen! I have another big job starting soon but hopefully I can get some milling done more often.
@LordRustyMcAlpin
@LordRustyMcAlpin 3 года назад
Do not throw the waste away.
@TimberGrappler
@TimberGrappler Год назад
Been running the LT35 lately here in Central Pa trying to work the bugs out and your videos have been helping me so much. You have such a great way of explaining and showing the process, my brain understands it's so much more than some others. Thank you!!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer Год назад
I love reading comments like this! Thank you! I’m glad my videos are helpful.
@royramey5659
@royramey5659 Год назад
x 2 = 64
@kbstone
@kbstone 4 года назад
Love the intro and intro music!
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
Thank you!
@GerryBerndt-gn4zi
@GerryBerndt-gn4zi 8 месяцев назад
Great video lots of info thanks.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 8 месяцев назад
My pleasure!
@KuzweKanfarms
@KuzweKanfarms 4 года назад
Thank you for this video. My milling is getting better. I milled a huge log last week I videoed. I would love for you to watch it and give any pointers. It was 20" on one end and 26" on the other. Getting ready to start milling timbers for the house build want to make sure I get the most yeild out of my logs. I can share the link here if you don't mind or pm it to you. I know you are busy and I understand if you don't have time.
@NorthwestSawyer
@NorthwestSawyer 4 года назад
I’d love to have a look! Post your link!
@KuzweKanfarms
@KuzweKanfarms 4 года назад
@@NorthwestSawyer ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WEylsH8z_CM.html
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