These words mean nothing. The industry itself is unsustainable & this is simply the execs squeezing the last drop out to enrich themselves. Look beyond your simple "Aussie bloke" rhetoric and see it for what it is.
They get paid the same, it's a mystery. I understand with women and black fellas that they're ticking boxes but I honestly don't get it with some of these visa guys.
Yep the industry gone woke & going broke “ 5 hours to do a 5 minute job “ can’t say anything might get HR try this way give it a try can’t look at any-one Or say saying I seen so many bloke stood down for “ nothing “ “ can you give me a hand “ “NO I just got my fingernails done 💅" um ok you just stand there suck on your vap then WOW Watch my supervisor video that p based on Ture events 🫣
Fly in fly out was what started this. I been in the game 30 years now. Your exactly right. Experience doesn't count. It's who you know, not what you know. Yes men, is all they want. Gone are the days of two long necks to get a job done. We lost out going from 8 hour shifts to 12 for the same money.
This is the problem with the whole thing. People don’t wanna train anymore. So people out here buying up fake qualifications to get a foot in the door. Companies need to realise you gotta train people up.
I worked in the mines in the 90's operating loaders moved 3000 tonne a shift in a 966. The best operators were mainly from farming backgrounds now they are Indian and other migrate imports. Many truck drivers Inc East West are now Indian taking many jobs off existing Australian drivers because they don't complain and have lower standards. I left the mines coughing blood due to silica dust such was the safety standards back then. Made many good mates in the mines and we all rode bikes when on RnR. Honestly the housing issues Australians are enduring right now are due to the massive migrant intake something like 500 thousand a year which is unsustainable.
It’s not the only industry that this is happening in. It’s even happening in the medical field!! Its also happening in the less dangerous jobs - my son was working in hospitality recently he quit because they under paid him and made him work hours for no pay. While he was there the boss brought in a “skilled worker” with all the “tickets” (sacked the great australian qualified cook), this guy couldn’t even cook a lunch time pub meal (fish and chips), definitely not as dangerous as the situation your talking about but these people coming in as “skilled workers” are definitely not qualified in the slightest.
We had an Indian guy come into our branch at Komatsu (earthmoving equipment), wearing a suit, asked if we were 'Kennards', he didnt even know the company he was taking an interview with.
They’re also doing this in the automotive industry outsourcing to foreigners when I know for a fact that there is hard working fully qualified Aussie technicians wanting to work.
Also, not sure why they don’t fly us from Melbourne because they say we only fly from Perth. However, I have seen them flying a telehandler operator from Europe. Must be a good operator hahaha. So yes, I think you’re right. something funny going on. Additionally, I resent hopeless cnts from elsewhere with expedited tickets jumping the queue. And don’t get me started about the brain dead non productive ones who can’t even remember to bring a pen each day. To be fair, it’s not their fault. The funny rabbit hole one needs to dive into is who gets so many of these dangerously incompetent people placed on the job all at once? Making a mistake and hiring one goose is understandable. But when many gaggles of geese are placed on the job all at once is a bit funny to me. So when you see someone leave a Jerry Can in front of the genset exhaust, or quick cutting sparks onto the refueling truck, or a gas axe operator igniting the shade cloth on a huge scaffold not once but twice, or leave the rotating beacon on overnight, it’s probably a safe bet that it’s one of these geese who doesn’t belong on the job.
Watch my “supervisor video “ You should get a laugh This just the start making videos Like you just said about When you think you seen it all Nekminute
I got friends who are younger trying to get in and they can’t get an entry level anywhere. Then you hear stories like this and it boils your blood. Give priority to Aussie’s first. Train ‘em up. Expecting young guys to have tickets for everything is why people out there buying them for their CV. If they don’t go buy it they can’t get an interview. Situation is fucked.
Don’t blame ya mate . I’m Irish and a sparky over here and can’t stand when lads say they can do electrics with a connect disconnect ticket . I had to jump through hoops when I moved here to get my license . Stay outta Yer self 🇮🇪 🇦🇺
This is why I encourage people to start their own business soon because employment is always out of your hands. And companies have no loyalty to hard working people anymore!!!!!
Yeah mate I know exactly what your talking about ..I worked on a civil Job at roy Hill back 2015 everyone on the job was all rounders but couldn't operate any of the machines , all got there tickets of a Irish training accessor for $200 a pop ..all the good operators are gone or retired now industry filled with shit.
I won’t say to much but had 2 worst Truckie’s ever they’re disappear “didn’t won’t to work “ or back the “moxi truck “ because they couldn’t use mirrors “didn’t won’t to learn . They tip dirt over “final works” that was signed off by the client couldn’t work out left or right hand down going around asking blokes to marry them so the could become Australian citizens for fake relationships $20-$30 grand this is ripe in the civil Then when you say NO they turn on you and create druma
@pupdownunder righto yeah I was up at section 2 for little while with nrw ,good times mate...then I went out to roy Hill mine site with nems where I ram into the fake all rounders last job I had, semi retired now but I bloody miss my time up north all those years doing different contracts thinking bout going back but I can't be fucked doing all those inductions all over again haha...maybe I can get an Irish accessor to train me up.
Well they get payed the same amount “ they have be payed the same but the kick in the guts is they pay less tax and pocket more money as the get a tax benefit! Only reason I found out this was to girls bragging about the tax benefits they get. 🤷🏽♂️
Lol, I'm 37 born and raised Aussie and have been living in Perth my whole life and have been trying to get into mining operations since 2012. My attempts to enter the industry have been on again off again, but the employers will NEVER offer me a new starter role. I even paid thousands for "training" but could never get a look in. It's obvious you have to know someone on the inside to get in, especially if you're a white man like me.
I have been in the mining industry for 30 years. Most of my colleagues are white men. There are more nationalities in the engineering field, but in operations mostly white men, so don't think that is your problem
Here in the uk the people did push back and had mass protests across the uk against uncontrolled immigration. Anyone involved in the protests was jailed even people who wrote comments on Facebook that where against immigration were thrown in jail. The uks fcucked mate. I would emmigrate to aussie land but looks like your country's headed toward the same mess ours is in.
Yep its all a bit different now i had to start at the bottom and do the time and hard yards before i could get any tickets,i remember telling a safety bloke one day that a new bloke they had just put through a course shouldn't have his riggers ticket as he had no clue. Was told to train him
Yes 👍 Robert I think the process around the wrong way now and it’s a cash grab for some I had reseat my ticket 🎫 because they miss RII $1000 later for 3 letters added I have no problem training if people are willing to listen & learn but then when the get to site for 4 day the won’t be the boss or team leader . I had one bloke turn up in mining Asked him basic questions as going down the pit to 996 libherr excuvator 800-1000 tons machine my alarm bells ring cos he said been on them but when we got to it and done a pre start the truth come out because the shear size . He didn’t operate they offered him a truck position and trained up from the bottom.
Fcuk the rest of the world, look after the aussies first, fcuk I hate we’re this country is going. I’ve been working since I was 14, I’m now 63 and I’ll keep working till as long as I can. The truth hurts them buddy, cheers and beers.
Hope you seen the comment to the persons looking for work !!! Why is unemployment so high people looking for work can get the job Will train the send the money and invest in local people
Was just on a job in Hay, they were bringing heaps of these irish 'lasses' in, 'never worked construction', but here they go. Happy to help and teach, but its a bitter pill to swallow. One mid-aged Aussie bird actually had the nerve to ask me if I was going to grease her loader in the morning (I'd done it the day before to show her how). I had to show her how to operate it and she couldn't turn the isolater key (not enough wrist strength)... I wish them well, but it aint right.
Teaching Nekminute demoted back on a truck or jobless say NO ,grease your own machine they call HR Nekminute cos he’s bullying me Try sitting on a dozer doing a straight forward job and there 6 of them with no idea work simply left to right along the top face or just trip on the left of the dozer along down the draft arm Book plane ticket
Im in a totally different industry (payroll), i have experience since 2005. However they expect me to train new starters who are being paid more than i am. Are you paid additional for the effort of training new people? I know im not
Australians don't want it, don't blame them, I worked in Kalgoorlie for 8 months and your sacrificing your life/time and most of these people are still skint 😂😂
The reason why companies like to get people to immigrate is it inflates the market for said job and increases the competition between workers, driving down costs for companies but mostly gives them more control over the working economy because without that they would be bending over and they did not become CEOs to bend over to workers. You have no fighting chance against that because companies have the money and can force governments to NOT have tough immigration policies. Which in the end causes social issues because the demand for essential items rise, housing, food, power etc. So basically you all got out smarted, lost the chess game.
I work in the bitumen industry and the amount of foreign truck drivers hauling 190 deg bitumen around the country has gone through the roof, always in a hurry and won’t listen. They get government grants and buy a prime mover and of they go.
I’ve been Looking for a job in fifo here in Queensland and i find it so confusing that they want people with all this experience and with all these tickets that they supposedly have… but never give someone new a go. A mate I used to work with got into fifo because his step dad worked in the industry… when he himself had no tickets or work experience in the mines. (Lucky) Just goes to show it’s who you know not what you know anymore.
Mate I got demobilised from a job 6 weeks ago “ not sacked “ Been told going straight into another job 6 weeks later nothing So I started looking for new job a week ago applied for 30-40 jobs Nothing I’m going into centre link tomorrow might go into early retirement the government has fucked Australia and made all WOKE might get back some my over payed tax money back !!!
Watch my “ discrimination in your face “ video on my page you’ll see why your not getting a look in then shear it so get view The algorithms aren’t letting it be viewed it think 🤔!
NO!!! Teaching is for when your learning Not employed and payed the same amount as a full confident Skilled operator that’s worked there way to better $$$ and done the working hours
@@pupdownundernot in this day and age bud, that's illegal... This is the reason why we have gotten to this stage in the first place. Because of dusty old dinosaurs wanting more money to train people, or thinking they are entitled to more money because they are better than someone else. Instead of whinging about being an Aussie, how's about you help out. Because that's the Australian way! Yours sincerely Construction Manager and trainer/assessor
@@pupdownunderYou are the perfect example of what's wrong with the industry and emloyers prefer foreigners...You Australians like to moan all the time
Haha been in Perth ten years no tickets never had tickets started in a shitty mustang can operate pretty much anything still can't get on the mines either to old to male or my beard is to good
Apply : If your female you’ll get a job If your male your probably your shit out luck All business going 50/50 You could have the best resume but if your male your overlooked I’m sorry to say Every female mate I said go fifo been 100% struck rate males👎
@@DM1977_ Who's talkin', Go and do a traditional hunt with a LandCruiser and dogs from some other country and firearms. Stop it. Ya' live in a house do you? Just a question. 👋
Mate I know you don't want to hear this , but when workers at K Mart are on nearly $25 an hour , I can understand why mining companies are prepared to put inexperienced workers on machines , because all your doing is moving dirt, and all repairs etc, are tax deductible. And this is also why housing is at a million dollars a pop, over paid mine workers. You get fed , housed and a break from the missus , & you still complain. You've got it so soft nowadays, me 7days on , 2 months continuous, qw hour shifts , on a drill rig., in all kinds of weather. Operators , 😅😅😅😅
That’s ok you say anything Think my real point I was trying to say Just don’t come to site saying your experienced when your Clearly not “ what I seen that day was dangerous “ I know we all got to learn If the only way you can get job is to say your experience well these companies need to invest in the workforce and train the correct way give people a fair GO
@pupdownunder fair enough mate , you & I both know how mining companies work & we also know how desperate , people are for work. Maybe the company you work for ,needs a better induction course, with equipment handing test , before leaving the yard. If anything it's only going to get worse. Goodluck pup 🐶 , just make sure your aware .
That absolutely blows my mind that they are having under trained Irishmen just jumping on diggers? How the fuck does that happen? That is absolutely outrageous.
The fact is if anything does go wrong using these people to operate these machines especially when the lives of other employees is concerned it's the mine manager who will be standing in front of the magistrate. They have to be able to prove in a court of law that they have trained and ticketed their employees and that all the paperwork is in order and signed off, otherwise they are leaving themselves wide open to hefty prosecutions and lawsuits.
I don’t know what your classes are professional “ taping keys on a keyboard ⌨️ “ Playing sports or getting educated to get stuck in a rut to pay off a Hicks education bill Sounds like you might need to have a occupational change It not that good of money if you go by hourly rate It the hour a day 12.5 x 7 = 87.5 hours x hourly rate so if you do the time in your workplace you might see the results . Every workplace has skill levels in different forms Go fifo then give it a GO Show us your professional skills
WA is a different world, it’s like stepping back to the fifties when you cross that border, and yes, they import everything over there, including unskilled immigrant workers…….Hello Mr CFMEU man are you here to look after Aussie workers……..Nah mate, just here to pick up my brown paper bag from Gina
M8t a few m8s in Brisbane tried to get dogman and riigers tickets they do the course and pay at the end of the course they are told to site experience for so many hours fill the logbook and get their ticket,but try getting on site to do this is impossible cheers now.
Yes totally get it Maybe company look at employing? People and putting them through the course Then the employee signs to pay for the course if the leave before 2 years then it’s a win win Companies get the benefit out of skilling their workers correctly and you pick up the skill correctly ?
Bloke I've worked on the mines in wa and still can't get a job back in fifo and I've even told the company to pay for my owne flights and still can't land a job because of exactly what you were talking about this country is so fucked on looking after Aussies who want to work their it needs to stop .Australia for Australians fair go
Answer this ONE question???Where is the professional training that ALL companies are supposed to supply??? is 1-3 days training sufficient? OH wait you should already know that!!! SERIOSLY...WHAT A JOKE!
If your employed as a skilled operator the job you applied for You shouldn’t need training If you know machine and confident on gps The adds I have been reading is asking for minimum years requirement What training do you need I’m not going to apply for a dozer job if I don’t know how to operate it and know gps Guess that’s were you got to work somewhere and start from scratch and if the company invests in you with the require training
