Scag 30" Walk Behind Mower Review SFC30 

Keep up the great work. We love our Scags. We always say when it rains in Texas it’s good for Scag!

Scag, I’d like to see how well this one stripes on cool season grass.

@@lcwservice3247 Always great to hear the words "It's raining in Texas!"

@@pagodad2036 In those northern grasses, we trust you will be impressed. We've seen a few other videos on RU-vid from customer in those grass types laying the type of stripe you'd expect from a Scag.

@@ScagPowerEquipment When will these be generally available?

I would be happy to sell you mine proudly for only 1600

Hope you didn’t buy one. Save your money, buy a zero turn or a regular self propelled unit.

@@smallfry1463 it's the storage space of the zero turn that kills me

​@@smallfry1463gotta go with the 21 inch I hear some bad things about scags 30

@@TJbodi34 you can get smaller zero turns with about the same profile.

Great info. Thanks for the contribution.

How good is this , I’m looking for 30 in commercial mower do you recommend it?

Thanks for the comment. Price and weight are 2 major factors when looking at this mower.

You cannot but we don't ever do that do it doesn't effect our workflow.

Walk behind usually refers to 32 inch and above commercial mowers. Push/Self propelled is used in terms of 21 inch homeowner mowed

Great answer! Thanks

Parts are a bit of an issue right now with most going to new units I've heard.

Yeah cuz it sucks. I have a real hate for this mower. Pointless!

Yeah I really wanted the 30 but saw to many bad things but I'm now getting the scag 21 hear very good things

I appreciate the comment Matt. I'm not the smallest guy for sure. It still blows my mind people think because your fat you can't work. They must not be around many construction sites! We run all Echo and love it. #2620T

1. I can agree that would be nice 2. It is a nightmare but they have already made it better on release models 3. I like the ergonomics

It is I believe we mentioned that.

Deffo

Excellent good to know.

I mow small yards here in Florida. I would be a buyer with front casters. I’m 73 and don’t want to wrestle with any mower.

That did make us laugh a little in the office but he isn't lying. As is evident by the amount of new hires that don't make it past lunch the first day.

That would be a nice upgrade. Wonder how it would work with the height adjustment system.

They told us today there will be a front caster wheel kit you can buy separately.

Glad to hear they should all have one!

You cannot I don't believe

I would say they are similar units but we will be phasing out exmarks out for these as it comes time to replace them.

NO, definitely NOT a step up. Just get a Huge mower and cutoff the transmission belt and there you have the same thing.

Cut higher, he is cutting too short.

Its a matter of preference. I wouldn't sell either one to buy the other. But if it was time to replace one in the fleet I would get the Scag.

48” all day without question. One trimming one mowing

We carry 1 30” push mower and 1 48 vride on all of our 2 man trucks. We find that’s an efficient setup.

Depends on the size and layout of your properties. Sometimes 2 30inch mowers if used right can be faster than a zeroturn. Big open lawns with no tight gates then zeroturn of course.

We don't have any Ferris dealers within 3 hours of us but those do look nice!

I wouldn't necessarily call $900 a few hundred dollar difference lol. For an extra thousand I better get all those things you mentioned and a little more. The FW15 doesn't get all the best reviews either.

backwards upstairs? lol better call a couple of friends over

We use a few of those as well they are much easier on the back but don't cut through the thick stuff as well that for sure.

@@lcwservice3247 I agree with you there. Gotta go slower on thick grass until it's manageable. I used it on some bigger 2-3 acre commercial properties on the side of the highway and the thick overgrown vegetation will bog the machine down. Best to be used on smaller residential properties and leave the big boy machines to the thicker stuff and larger properties.

Thanks for your opinion on the mower. Should help others make a purchasing decision.

Okay we will get one together for you.

We can't wait to get them either!

@Watch Me Mow-I have one you can come and get it today.

This scag will kill you trying to shove it around. It weighs 60 pounds more than the toro 30 inch. BAD BAD decision on my part.

@@kenmagness9018 really? I didn’t know that. Thank you for sharing

@@b20em1 Uh, maybe you already knew. Sorry for bothering you. I'll delete it.

Just wondering, what makes the blue belt wear out like crazy? I usually that belt maybe twice in a season.

I run 4 toro 30” turfmaster (well 3 toro and 1 exmark) I go through about 5-6 belts on those the blue ones. And that’s the dealer installing them. So when I saw the scag I was excited but these are already heavy I can’t imagine another 60 lbs

Thanks Jeff

Used Scag for years, never had any problems with spindles. Hydro leak once, Scag fixed in one day at no charge.

Scag is the only spindle I have not had to replace. You just have to grease them with quality grease.

I use scag branded spindle grease and have had 4 failures. Scag refused all 4 spindles under warranty and I had to pay for them.

Scag has the best spindles in the industry. I can say that with confidence. Warranty depends on what you did to break it. They wont warranty stuff that is the users fault or wear items.

@@lcwservice3247 Well, it appears you have had far better experiences than I have. My dealer says that Scag only pays for 1 in 20 spindles.

I totally agree with this did you see how far the grass was thrown? Could not use his Mower and that's how the area you'd be cleaning mulched Grass more than your cutting out of the beds

$2,427 I think it was

@@dslawnlandscapingservices7473 thanks

I believe I mentioned the price in the video. They are around $2200.

It isn’t light for sure but it’s not much more heavy then our 30 commercial ex marks and toros. The time master is lighter but it’s a residential unit with less power, a more thin deck and a non commercial transmission. We have used both and sell both. They each of there pros and cons.

I concur with your "downgrade" to the Timemaster. It turns out those "fluff" convenience features for residential use just happen to be pretty convenient if you're pushing one of these units around for six hours. For reference, the SCAG is 220 lbs - the Timemaster is 140. About the only consistent deficiencies of the Timemaster are, you can't go half the day on a tank of gas, and the blade timing belt tension and idle pulleys are weak - upgrade those to the eXmark pulleys ASAP. To be such a "residential" piece of equipment, I see a surprising number of Timemasters on commercial trailers - and looking at their equipment, it's not because they couldn't afford more. And I haven't seen any Timemasters falling apart because they're lighter - like split decks or bent attachment points - which makes me wonder why heavier is really needed? The main thing they try to do with commercial equipment is make it idiot and bomb proof - not necessarily better to use. This Scag 30" looks to me as though it would be a pretty good mower for wide open spaces - the kind where you'd be better off on a 48" zero turn, anyway. They lost the whole point of making a smaller mower more usable for smaller spaces.

My pleasure

@@lcwservice3247 😎👍

We are not a fan of the exmarks

Just got mine I’m just starting my business and this is my first mower I’m a solo business this is going to be my main mower for now

@@lcwservice3247 Toro 30 inch is a better machine than the scag 30.

It comes down to preference. If you mow a lot of tall grass. 1st time cuts / Cleanup ect the Scag. If its weekly maintenance Toro with Kohler.

Scags are made by Metalcraft of Mayville in Wisconsion. They are made with the same steel used in CAT Heavy Equipment. I'd do a little more research.

Ouch, "Armed Veteran" burned by a lawn care guy. Gotta sting... But seriously, at least read about a product before running your mouth.

@@johnfaustus1 Scag 2021 30 inch for sale dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/tls/d/joshua-scag/7357236076.html... brand new 9 hours. Come and get it.

@@kenmagness9018 still available?

@@Jaredbar Yes.

Caster wheels are an addon but can be installed

You must not have had cheap steel from China yet. You can tell the difference between US steel and China steel for sure.

My guess. Never

Hydro? Hard to find hydro at this price point. It's all belts. Although it does use the General Transmissions MV 702 transmission, which seems to be a reliable unit for delivering torque-based power. So... no hydro, and reverse is your shoulders, lower back and thighs.

@@47f0 I just looked it up on the Scag website. My dealer actually said it was hydro. I'm waiting a while on my decision for a commercial 30. The shorter wheelbase on the Exmark/Toro is more appealing to me. I had a Timemaster for a short time and sold it. Bad engine.

@@tallens5280 - This decision is easy. You should definitely get the Scag SFC 30. Why? Because you will have the only hydro SFC 30 on the planet, and that's got to be worth something. I'm looking at the SFC 30 manual. Starting on page 38, there's a very nice breakdown of all the parts. Please feel free to download that manual yourself from the Scag website and show me where any of those parts show any hydraulic components at all. If it helps, the breakdown for the rear drive is on page 48. On page 31 is a table of regular maintenance. At 400 hours you're supposed to replace the transmission drive belt. It tells you when to change the oil. It talks about the type of fuel to use. But nowhere does it mention anything about hydraulic fluid. I'm not sure what you were looking at on the Scag website, but if your dealer insists that the SFC 30 is a hydro machine, he's either not being honest, or he doesn't know his own product. Either one is sufficient to make me look for another dealer. Looking at the SFC 30, it's clear that Scag tried to scale a commercial elephant down to mouse size. What they ended up with was a very heavy mouse. The SFC 30 looks like it would be pretty great at mowing wide open spaces. But wide open spaces is what you should be using the 48-in zero turn for anyway. You grab a 30-in to get into the smaller places that your big zero turn can't get to, and here's where Scag failed. Nothing about the ergonomics, or the set and run with it speed control, or the sheer weight of 220 lb suggest that Scag even remembered what a 30-in mower's supposed to be used for.

@@47f0 I said I looked it up and yes, I saw that it is belt drive. My dealer is the idiot. Sorry you went to all that trouble for me.

@@tallens5280 - It's not trouble. I work hard to get my money, and I assume you do too. I have a personal grudge against dealers who take people who work hard for their money and feed them bad information to separate them from their money. If it's not deceit on their part, it's ignorance, and either way I'd prefer to spend my money with somebody less deceitful or ignorant.

So do we!

Very good idea. We learned that with the 7010 Echo blowers.

I think I'm starting to see that. I'll let you know

Its thick :D

Sorry to hear. We like the height adjustment.

My thoughts too! Yeah it's a pre production model but the deck is bent already around those adjustment holes along with the adjustment pin. I can only imagine after it is a few months old let alone a year or more.

I bought a 25inch Ybrovo and I'll say I was really underwhelmed. Does yours multch well in tall grass? Also my motor locked up at 33 hours. The dealership I bought it from is working a trade deal for one of these.

It’s a good not great mulching mower. “Tall grass” does that mean 8in cutting down to 3 in? Then no it doesn’t mulch well. 6in cutting to 4in it does fine Kawasaki Fj 180’s will hydro lock fairly easily if over filled with oil. Pull the spark plug and crank the engine to evacuate the cylinder and of course drain excess oil. But the engine ceasing after 33 hrs is a Kawasaki issue. Scag SP 30 is just to much mower for my application and age Good luck.

@@chriscato5842 I wanted to reply again Sir This morning I spoke with 2 different crews that had Scag 30's on their trailers, one at a stop light and one on the same street i was cutting on. Both saud the same 2 things. The Scag is heavy and that it is A Mulching Beast.

@@gls3894 I appreciate the feed back! It looks like they are not going to warranty my mower so I will not be going for the scag. Looks like I'll be replacing the motor. Hopefully I just got a bad motor to begin with.

lmao. too funny

Thanks for your contribution to the community. We appreciate it.

For the record I don't work in the field much anymore. I'm busying working on my 7 companies not working in them.

@@lcwservice3247 Hope one of those provides health care and life insurance, because you can "own" 99 companies, but what is the point when you are dead

@@jasonk3038 We provide health, vision, dental, short & long term disability and life insurance for all of our employees. As well as paid vacation, sick time and 5 paid holiday annually. I agree benefits are super important to promoting the company atmosphere we want.

Thats one opinion

It is self propelled...

Caster wheels are an addon you can purchase and swap out.

@@lcwservice3247 Geezus, Scag really scraped the bottom of the barrel, to get these prototypes reviewed l

@@jasonk3038 Thanks for your contribution to the community. Its invaluable.

@@lcwservice3247 No prob, are you out of breath from typing?

Sure is but its in the ball park with other similar units.

Thanks for your contribution to the community. We appreciate it.

Thats 1 route