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Scaling and Etching of your Swimming Pool Plaster: Causes and Cures 

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A rough to the feel pool surface is a real issue that many pool owners face. The plaster may feel like very rough sandpaper and may even cut your hands and feet when you go swimming. But there are technically two different situations that can cause this, scale and etching. Each of these conditions will leave the plaster feeling rough to the touch, but each is a very different condition.
Scale is formed when the water becomes scale forming and calcium will build up on the surface. Using the LSI (Langelier Saturation Index) is one way to tell if your pool water is scale forming or corrosive (etching). If the water is scale forming a product that removes the scale would be something that can be used to reverse the rough plaster surface.
SC-1000 Scale and Metal Control
“SC-1000 is one of the original Orenda Products and was originally used in industrial cooling towers and water treatment facilities.
SC-1000 contains no phosphates, unlike most metal control products available. This is meaningful because those same products (many of which are phosphate-based) would directly conflict with phosphate removal efforts…but SC-1000 will not. Combined with Orenda’s PR-10,000 phosphate remover, the two products work in harmony.
When applied as directed, SC-1000 controls metal staining and scale while being fully compatible with the materials of pool & spa construction and other treatment chemicals. It can also do wonders for removing existing scale in pool heaters, salt chlorine generators, and other equipment.
SC-1000′s formulation was awarded the Environmental Protection Agency’s Presidential Green Chemistry Award for its implementation of environment-friendly chemical technology.”
Here is more about the difference between scale and etching from Orenda Technologies:
“Scale (calcium carbonate) is formed when too much calcium is in solution in the water, and it falls out of solution and hardens on surfaces. It will be evident on the face of the tile, inside pipes and heat exchangers, salt cells, etc. The hotter the water, the more likely scale will occur. It occurs due to an LSI violation of being above +0.30 on the LSI.
Calcite Crystals occur when not enough calcium is present in the water, and the water stays cold for a prolonged period of time. The water is aggressive because it is hungry for more calcium…it seeks equilibrium and wants to be properly saturated. It will extract calcium from wherever it can. The most available source? Plaster and grout. Crystallized calcium is usually some form of calcite that grows out of the plaster surface and hardens. We know of at least 4 different types of calcite crystals. SC-1000 can help soften some of the types, but not all. Unfortunately, some types of crystals require physically grinding them away.
SC-1000 is not a replacement for balancing your water. It also cannot reverse etching already done. Because of this, if you’re going to stray from the LSI safe zone, err to the high side, because the scale is treatable. The etching is permanent.”
If your pool has scale it can be treated and slowly reversed but like Orenda Technologies states, etching is permanent so it is very important to check your LSI or get the LSI checked so you know if you have scale or etching in the pool since both feel very much the same to the touch.
For the complete podcast series with Orenda:
Orenda Technologies Water Quality Issues Series Part 1 of 6: Virtual Classroom and App (Episode 325): www.buzzsprout...
Orenda Technologies Water Quality Issues Series Part 2 of 6: Phosphates (Episode 326): www.buzzsprout...
Orenda Technologies Water Quality Issues Series Part 3 of 6: Enzyme Treatment (Episode 327):
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Orenda Technologies Water Quality Issues Series Part 4 of 6: High CYA (Episode 328):
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Orenda Technologies Water Quality Issues Series Part 5 of 6: Balancing the LSI (Episode 329):
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Orenda Technologies Water Quality Issues Series Part 6 of 6: Scaling & Etching (Episode 330):
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Комментарии : 33   
@whitemok
@whitemok 4 года назад
Love the podcast. Harold is all about the aloha! Love that guy
@TheSmellalicious
@TheSmellalicious 4 года назад
Thank you so much for all your videos. Yours are so clear, thorough, and to the point. You've helped me tremendously. I've learned how to do so much on my own by watching them.
@SPL
@SPL 4 года назад
Thank you for the great feedback! 👍👍
@user-fo1lo8zu1l
@user-fo1lo8zu1l 2 месяца назад
Hi my pool was just done by Anthony N Sylvan pools an is so rough and it is light sand in my robot is the pool company responsible to repair .
@SPL
@SPL 2 месяца назад
There should be a warranty on the work.
@tandrareed5230
@tandrareed5230 2 года назад
Our pool is rough? It can’t be reversed? What do we do to fix it AND then prevent it from happening again?
@SPL
@SPL 2 года назад
Maybe. You may need a a local pool pro to come out and look at it.
@bdoderlein
@bdoderlein 4 года назад
I have sharp nodules coming out of the plaster , etching i think. If you remove them is it true that there remains a small hole and problem will return? If so do you have any solutions?
@SPL
@SPL 4 года назад
It's possible that is what it is. Can also be a defect in the plaster where air was trapped during the plaster job and these nodules are now forming. Typically you will see a dozen pop up in the pool.
@rodolfosanchez1275
@rodolfosanchez1275 2 года назад
I have a question. When I get in my spa , I have noticed that my pool has these little buildups that feel like little mountains. I can scratch them off with my finger nail. But there are so many, how can I remove these little sharp scaling things. Should I empty the pool ans acid wash it? Should I addd more salt to the pool so it creates more chlorine to eat up the mineral buildup? Please help. My pool is only 2 years old.
@SPL
@SPL 2 года назад
Try brushing the spa wall aggressively with a 6" Stainless steel algae brush. Adding a bottle of Easy Care Beautec may also help.
@amandaricci4226
@amandaricci4226 3 года назад
This is our 6th year with our wet edge plaster pool. We absolutely have etching because every year when we open it the pool is rough like sand paper. I have to use a diamond blade sander to get the pool smooth ever summer. If I keep the LSI balanced with SC-1000 and extra calcium in the winter can I reverse this problem or is it permanent?
@SPL
@SPL 3 года назад
As far as I know etching is something that can't be reversed. Maybe if you drain the pool and give it a complete power sanding and then a light acid wash all of the pitting can be smooth out. Then keep the calcium hardness high at over 400-500 to help protect the surface from etching.
@junior_4687
@junior_4687 4 года назад
I have some staining in a pool most likely metal like blackish spot size is about 1ftx1ft and sand wavy looking brownish staining all of the shallow end you think ascorbic treatment will work ?
@SPL
@SPL 4 года назад
Is it a plaster pool?
@junior_4687
@junior_4687 4 года назад
Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL Yes sir
@SPL
@SPL 4 года назад
@@junior_4687 Maybe the Bio-Dex AquaDex 50 will have some effect on that stain. I've had pretty good results with that product. Another option may be a drain and acid wash.
@apolloorosco6852
@apolloorosco6852 2 года назад
I have a new pool about 3 months now and noticed the plaster is flaking off.. any ideas if this is something that I should be concerned about?
@SPL
@SPL 2 года назад
Maybe it is calcium vs the plaster itself.
@apolloorosco6852
@apolloorosco6852 2 года назад
@@SPL I think you may be right, I just read up on calcium flakes in saltwater pool and it said it’s caused by high PH and warm water which is what I have. Thank you for replying to my comment.
@apolloorosco6852
@apolloorosco6852 2 года назад
@@SPL I think you are right , it looks like calcium flakes. WOW.... I now have the calcium flakes and what looks like rust along where the flakes are at. The rust is around the intake vent guards and on the steps where the return is at.. Any idea what the cause is ?? Ive searched rust in a pool but cant much related
@evelyneller9647
@evelyneller9647 4 года назад
My question isn't about pool services. I need to know how warm the water needs to be to be safe for your robotic pool cleaner.
@SPL
@SPL 4 года назад
I think anything over 50 degrees is acceptable. Anything under that may be too cold.
@evelyneller9647
@evelyneller9647 4 года назад
@@SPL: Thank you for answering my question so promptly. I will be putting Lucy ( my cleaner) in the pool tomorrow. You have always answered my questions very quickly, thank you for that. Stay safe and God bless.
@SPL
@SPL 4 года назад
Stay safe yourself and I like your cleaners name! 👍
@user-fo1lo8zu1l
@user-fo1lo8zu1l 2 месяца назад
Who’s fault is it the pool guys who resurfaced my pool
@SPL
@SPL 2 месяца назад
Builder usually
@miguelolivas3583
@miguelolivas3583 Год назад
I have a pool where the plaster is rough like sand paper how can I get the pool back smooth the pool is like 7 months old
@SPL
@SPL Год назад
Try adding a bottle of Beautec and then another 1/2 bottle 2 weeks later. Followed by the rest 2 weeks after that. And brush it aggressively with a 6" Stainless steel brush.
@robw1150
@robw1150 Год назад
I have the exact same situation. I added Beautec a couple days ago and have been brushing with a stainless steel brush. Hoping this works. My pool went from smooth to rough in about two weeks and I don’t know why. My pool is eight months old. Did you find a solution?
@WeServicePools
@WeServicePools Год назад
@@robw1150 Did it work?
@daniellemurray1987dm
@daniellemurray1987dm Год назад
@@SPLwhat should the chemicals be at when doing that treatment
@robw1150
@robw1150 8 месяцев назад
@@WeServicePools I has but it has taken months.
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