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Scammell Explorer starting in extremely cold conditions 

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Scammell Explorer starting in extremely cold conditions with a Gardner 180.

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23 авг 2024

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@darrenthompson3696
@darrenthompson3696 2 года назад
2 great names gone forever Gardner and Scammel. British engineering at its best
@abuubaydullah1
@abuubaydullah1 4 года назад
You can have all the new stuff they will never beat the love of WW1 and WW2 trucks and the Scammell is like a time capsule will all ways look and sound great thank you TheScammellexplorer for sharing.
@johnpoile1451
@johnpoile1451 11 месяцев назад
Only one thing looks like a Scammell and that is another Scammell.
@roybowden795
@roybowden795 2 года назад
I have worked on and started diesel engines in all kinds of equipment here in Canada, from Detroit Diesels , Caterpillar , Cummins and more , and in varying displacements , V16 down to inline six, in minus 30c temps , most had block heaters which keep the coolant warm, when plugged into an electrical outlet , the Big Engines 1800 hp plus on 300 ton mining haul trucks , when the truck was parked had quick couplers and hoses which hooked up to a stationary heater pump which circulated heated coolant through the engine block, if an engine in a piece of equipment for some reason quit in extreme temps minus 30c and was left for any length of time , we would cover the entire unit with a ex army parachute and place a propane fueled space heater underneath then repair the problem, and usually by that time the repairs were completed engine would start no problem.
@scopex2749
@scopex2749 8 лет назад
just like my old girl sadly sold years ago! I had the Gardner 180 fitted smoked like a good'un for th first 15 minutes when it was cold!!
@davidellis279
@davidellis279 5 лет назад
The 13-1 compression ratio was the problem, it didn't generate enough heat for starting in extremely cold weather, we used to use a welding rod with a rag dipped in diesel and set on fire and put it down the intake manifold, never failed no matter how cold it was of course there was the usual plumes of smoke and smoke rings until the Pistons warmed up a little but once warmed up they were a pretty clean running engine. Reliability came as standard but the power outputs were abysmal when compared with Scania, Volvo, Cummins and others who made engines that actually had a decent power output and it finished Gardner for ever, sad but true.
@teamidris
@teamidris 3 года назад
Last forever though if you can get the parts :o)
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 2 года назад
13.1, I thought Diesels ran on 21.1 oppression ?
@davidellis279
@davidellis279 2 года назад
@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 Its compression, the early indirect diesels ran on compression Ratios that high but direct injection engines normally run between 16/18 but Gardner for whatever reason used 13-1 which made for difficult starting in cold weather conditions.
@keithammleter3824
@keithammleter3824 2 года назад
@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 : Most diesel engines of large truck engine size and larger (9 litres and up) have compression ratios in the range 15:1 to 16:1. In theory conversion of combustion heat into mechanical energy delivered through the pistons by gas expansion rises with compression ratio. However, heat is lost through the cylinder walls into the coolant, and this implies you must minimise the cylinder wall area - the cylinder wall area in comparison to head area must of course rise with compression ratio. The faction of heat lost via cylinder walls begins to rise significantly faster than the rise in conversion efficiency above about 15:1. Hence around 15:1 to 16:1 is an optimum for fuel consumption. The smaller the engine is, the higher the compression must be for reliable cold starting, so very small diesels sometimes have compression ratios as much as 22:1. A lower compression ratio (eg 13:1) gives lower mechanical stresses on bearings and less piston ring blow-by, so a lower compression engine is more durable, especially before detergent oils became available, which prevent carbon particles from ring blow-by clumping together and causing extra wear.
@davidellis279
@davidellis279 2 года назад
So true about the compression ratios,some indirect injection engines ran at between 22-5 and 25 to 1 but were still difficult to start, probably one the worse was the Ford York series of engines which was unusual because Fords were normally good starters in cold weather. F7 Volvos had the same 13/1 compression ratio as Gardner but had a massive heating coil in the inlet manifold and were Never a problem to start.
@PE1JAS
@PE1JAS 5 месяцев назад
Gardner..... Kromhout as Dutch version! What a quality !
@sophiejane1863
@sophiejane1863 6 лет назад
I’ve seen this truck at the paignton carnival each year - a fantastic sight, best in the procession!
@stevek3036
@stevek3036 7 лет назад
They looked lovely and once warmed up were a smooth sounding quiet diesel. But they were one of the worst offenders for smoke, even when warm, partly I guess due to a slightly lower than optimal compression which is why they didn't knock like most diesels of that era
@jonathanpardoe8722
@jonathanpardoe8722 6 лет назад
There is a story that Rolls Royce requested a Gardner 180 to test. Gardner duely supplied an engine and RR tested it. The report came back that said it was producing all of its horsepower but there was a piston missing.
@CosgroveNotts
@CosgroveNotts 5 лет назад
They would run with no piston rings. Just smoke a bit. I built loads of LXBs in the 70s
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 3 года назад
so, rolls royce stole the piston!!
@AJ-qn6gd
@AJ-qn6gd 2 года назад
That’s British quality control for you !
@davezoom2682
@davezoom2682 9 месяцев назад
Probably sent them a 5 LW just to mess with their minds !
@johnadams3730
@johnadams3730 3 года назад
Hope you got power steering and the heater on full😂 love that tick over brilliant.
@zzorg
@zzorg 10 лет назад
Beautiful
@sideshowbob5237
@sideshowbob5237 3 года назад
The woolly hat types who keep these things in working order are patriots - and heroes.
@sophiejane4274
@sophiejane4274 8 лет назад
Awesome machine 👍🚛
@scopex2749
@scopex2749 3 года назад
That looks just like my old Explorer!!!
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 2 года назад
Just like the Gardner engine, individual injector primers.
@bobcornford3637
@bobcornford3637 7 лет назад
Only difficult to start if you don't know where the excess fuel button is.....
@jacko74fisher70
@jacko74fisher70 3 года назад
Where is it? Do 5lws have one? Mines a pig to start! Help!
@andrewngwenya6837
@andrewngwenya6837 7 лет назад
what happened to these trucks?
@CosgroveNotts
@CosgroveNotts 5 лет назад
I like to spin it over with valve compresser up. Primes quicker, saves on batteries in cold
@adwest68
@adwest68 4 года назад
You can prime with the levers on the injection pump, so you can see he did
@johnpoile1451
@johnpoile1451 11 месяцев назад
Scammelltastic.
@jamescampbell7780
@jamescampbell7780 3 года назад
Be great to see it on the road!
@diaryofaherbert7423
@diaryofaherbert7423 3 года назад
And that’s why Gardner!
@benreid7567
@benreid7567 3 года назад
Sounds like has major burnt valve or head gasket blown. Can hear the hiss out the exhaust and hammering back through the air cleaner plus difficulty starting by the way it takes so long to wind up. All you are going to end up doing is burning the guts out of the starter motor.
@simonjones7785
@simonjones7785 2 года назад
Any diesel needs a coyple of rgings right and it will go good fuel good starter motor and an excellent battery bonus is a bit of heat around the air i take and hey presto we got a runner
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 3 года назад
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you keep your fuel heater, block heater and line heaters plugged in👍
@smckinney3mckinney141
@smckinney3mckinney141 2 года назад
And a little shot of ether helps..
@mattyb7736
@mattyb7736 Год назад
@@smckinney3mckinney141 Gardners are allergic to ether, That one started strange, it actually fired on all pots. Most start on 4 or 5 and the last one join the party a few minutes later
@haraldpettersen3649
@haraldpettersen3649 3 года назад
A Gardner never refuses to start 🧐
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 6 лет назад
Gotta keep her plugged in my friend, that and some diesel fuel treatment.
@bsimpson6204
@bsimpson6204 2 года назад
By ek, good battery!
@SFtruckerWolf
@SFtruckerWolf 8 лет назад
So you mean -40 C with extreme cold????
@garethifan1034
@garethifan1034 6 лет назад
Not even cold by Uk standards I would say..
@duncanosborne8475
@duncanosborne8475 7 лет назад
never touch the throttle to star from cold
@rogermason6808
@rogermason6808 2 года назад
yes the mechanical advance needed to be on minimum throttle the governors gave it max fuel
@darrenthompson3696
@darrenthompson3696 2 года назад
Bet you cannot cold start a modern diesel like that Gardener
@charlescrisp2814
@charlescrisp2814 10 лет назад
awesome sound
@stevethackery9853
@stevethackery9853 7 лет назад
There's something wrong - it never gets running on all the cylinders.
@lucyscott5408
@lucyscott5408 6 лет назад
Steve Thackery having worked around many Gardner 180s, it sounds like the exhaust silencer needs replacing but still sounds great!
@Draxindustries1
@Draxindustries1 8 лет назад
Old boat anchor of an engine..
@andrewcullen7529
@andrewcullen7529 2 года назад
Pump more
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