Have always admired the engineering behind the Pioneer. An apparently undersized engine but the torque the power train puts out is simply amazing - ! 😊
When I was little l used to love Scammell name and l was always looking out for their lorries. We used to live over a bakery and the generator was powered by a Scammell engine ❤
The Leyland Martian Recovery vehicles weighs about 23 tons and the Scammell only has a Gardner 6LW diesel engine. Taking the hill into account, shows Scammell got the gear ratios right.
Completely agree with what you’ve said, but you missed the fact that the straight 6 Gardner Diesel also produced massive amounts of torque from low down all the way through the Rev range. A fantastic piece of engineering
@@OneFlyingLap Even my diesel car produces good torque from low revs across a wide range of revs. it is what diesels do. The only reason the Explorer was fitted with a petrol engine was because policy at the time dictated the Army got petrol, the Navy got diesel and the airforce got kerosene. The same standardisation thinking led to the B series engines and the totally under powered Leyland Martian Recovery. The fact so many Gardner engines are still in use proves their worth.
@@dukwdriver2909 Gardner engines and AEC engines have stood the test of time. I was agreeing with you, but what I was trying to say is good gearing along with a good engine that produced exceptional torque for the time and even now, all of it combined makes and made for one great vehicle
@@OneFlyingLap massively undersquare bore/stroke of those days gave even the petrol engines of the day pretty good bottom end. Some manufacturers got it right, the yanks seemed to get on ok with their m25's which were petrol, that Hall Scott engine was the basis of a lot of their post war heavy haul tractors.
Just out of shot, two elderly cyclists, an old woman with a shopping trolley and a milk float, all waiting to get past. Excellent stuff, and very much appreciated the mechanical sympathy that got the job done in a way that could be done almost indefinitely. Thanks for posting!
I took a double take a few months ago whilst watching some old silent WW2 news films of the German surrender. Lines of them walking or driving in anything that moved towards the Allied lines. Trundling along was a Gardner Scammell covered in German troops getting a lift! It was painted in German Grey and had probably been in their service since 1940!
I learned to drive HGV in one of those Leylands in the early 80s when I was 18 years old, Petrol engine & did 35 mph if you were lucky, wooden floorboards that used to smoulder & we used to climb out of the cupola & sit in the crane when we were in convoy & you’d get brake fade going down hill 😂😂😂😂
Wow what a couple of strange looking but unique trucks, being from Canada I’ve never seen something quite like it. The only strange looking trucks we have here are probably Oshkosh
I don't think you needed to run that fast up that hill as I bet this lovely old Scammel towing its Leyland stable mate wouldn't have caught you anyway!!!
The Gardner 6LW is fitted to one of our diesel locomotives. It develops about 110 HP. It easily moves a 190 tonne train over 8km line. The Scammell is only moving slowly in low gear so a 23 tonne load is easily moved, even uphill.
My grandad drove 1939 pioneer in Cyprus in 1963 when he was in TA and it was a wreck and it broke down and Captain told him not to bother repairing it and dump it and my grandad left it up in hills in Papos and ripped parts off of it he also drove an Explorer out there and recovered a series 2 Land Rover green jackets crashed into a ravine and a compressor that toppled over.
I had a ride from robin hoods bay to whitby in one of these about 27 years ago .the noise in the cab from the 6 cylinder gardener engine was horrendous. The chap brought me back in a 1942 matador 4x4 gun tractor .much smoother faster (20mph lol) and quieter .
MY UNCLE, JACK BURNELL, WORKED AT SCAMMELL'S, IN WATFORD, AS A TROUBLE SHOOTER. HE WOULD TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD IF AN OPERATER WAS EXPERIENCING A PROBLEM WITH ONE OF THEIR VEHICLES AND IT WAS HIS JOB TO FIND OUT WHY, WAS IT A DRIVER'S/OPERATOR'S FAULT, INCORRECT MAINTENANCE OR THE DESIGN FAULT OF A CERTAIN COMPONENT, IF IT WAS HE WOULD THEN LIASE WITH THE DESIGN OFFICE TO REDESIGN THAT COMPONENT THEN FLY BACK OUT, TO WHEREVER, AND FIT THAT PART - EXCELLENT SERVICE UNTIL LEYLANDS TOOK OVER AND DESTROYED THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR INDUSTRY JUST AS THEY DID WITH THE CAR INDUSTRY - LORD STOKES HAD A LOT TO ANSWER FOR !!!
