SCARFACE Movie - The Begining of the Fall 

It was because of Manny, why Angel got chainsawed and nearly Tony. Had he not tried to pick up scantily clad woman on the street, he would’ve seen Angel get forced inside the hotel room by a gunman from outside.

@@crazyralph6386 haha, I love this. It was chichi's fault for not keeping track of time for the mackdaddy manny

@@samuellahniers7430 Wasn't their fault but Hector's, however, their incompetence allowed Angel to be killed. If at least one of them was keeping an eye at the building at a time, both could have been saved.

And they got the yayo!!

the moral of the story, greed or gratitude the path is yours to choose

Or it's that he never took advice from Frank to fly straight after making the deal with Sosa. Tony just wanted it all including his woman which is a recipe for Karma against him.

@@Cw311z His creepy battered bloodstained hand gently pulling back her bedsheet.

He reminds me of the ex wife. $98,000 in child support and kept the house. And still a hole that cannot be filled.

why can't noone fill her hole@@theparanormalconnection8954

Like it or not, Tony should've taken Frank's advice and his rules for his success. He might have lived longer.

Frank had warn him and he could have been succesful

Yet Tony doesn't give a 🤬. Eventually it cost him.🩸

@@Cw311z but the quote who want it all, was kind of dangerous to be open about it.

Yes he was. he was right on the money.

@@vxy357 true

Correct.

I told you mane no kids but you don't listen!!

Lost everything because he was cheap...😂😂😂

@@00ghostcobra Greedy, not cheap.

​@@hymansahak181 that's right Greed is the downfall of all humans, it's never enough

Is that the same actor? Dam he don’t look the same

@@TheRealForgetfulElephant Yes. Steven Bauer also played Don Eladio.

​@TheRealForgetfulElephant The two roles were like 30 years apart. He was decades older. Of course he looks different.

@@Liverpool5095 Lo siento Don Liverpool, I mean no disrespect to your or your familia. I just thought he was drastically different looking. If I had to guess he had some work done (plastic surgery)

Thats me

a rat nibbling corners eventually plots for your dinner

Imagine if you let that amount go? They will keep skimming off the top. Everything counts.

​@@Wh4L205price of doing business

I’m about my bread like the pillsbury dough guy

@@zeldaknight101 that’s your price. Not anyone else’s. I need every penny

But we wouldn't have one of the greatest movies ever made...😂

@@00ghostcobra well DUH!! 🤣🤣🤣

His supplier was going to be exposed by a reporter. They used Tony because he was desperate. He was most likely going to be the fall guy regardless if the assassination was a success.

@@WithoutRemorse12 I see what you're saying. Tony would've just gotten another connect. Best case situation

@@avace917 In that meeting where they offer Tony the opportunity. It doesn't feel like he gets to leave alive if he doesn't agree to be part of the assassination plot.

Reminds me of my brother.

So you always get one? "never don't"

That’s up to FRANK NOT YOU!!! I’m sorry Mr Sosa..

Haha

😂​@@clintbronson5

Tony was the snake Frank tried to take Tony under his wing and school him on how to be successful Frank was a good guy

Thanks for all the examples.

If he quit the mobster like like manny he would have been alright

That too in Miami

BO?

@@Dannymart_88445 4 hairy dudes in a stuffy ass room for hours you bet thered be BO lol

lol the 80s be like

Lol no doubt it's funky

I think it really illustrates the bad taste a guy like Tony would have in his situation... its like Dubai in a room

Carpet in the Bathroom!! :D

it's so tacky lol

It was a bit more impressive/"stylish" in the 80s lol

@@fedecano7362 😂😂

These guys beat prison,and think they can beat anything,and anyone.

He keep his shit together,him! that’s who! 😂

No he killed the people that were keeping his shit together.

yea ' trusting ' his friend Manolo and he fd his sister. 😂. that's betrayal right there dude

@@arturoalmazan5262man that b plot fucked my head up…. On the one hand, he DID warn manny about messing with her. And they were hella wrong for getting married and not telling Tony. I can’t blame him for being protective, but he took it too far. He has a very…. Weird obsession with her sister and who she fucks, almost bordering on being incestuous at times…. Killing manny was HUUUGE mistake, fucked sister non-withstanding. Directly causes his sisters death, and now he’s down a loyal man when he can least afford it, what with Sosa sending his Calvary.

@@arturoalmazan5262 He married her though, granted manny should have asked persmision, but who else did tony want to be his brother in law if not his best friend? riddle me that lol... Ton'y's problem was he didnt want anyone marrying his sister which is crazy...

Smart Man here. Why stay in the game any longer when you have millions. Just relocate and live your life.

Yep, Tony didn’t know when to stop. So he was stopped.

I have a distant uncle that got rich doing drug businesses in the 90s he got enough money and got out before shit hit the fan . He still lives comfortably and has lots of properties and legal businesses oh and he never betrayed his partners so he went off clean .

rarely happens. It is greed that got them to the top. It will keep them there till they go down. very few ever make that transition.

I mean at that point Tony was screwed, but at least the guy made it so he would only have to do 5 or 3 years which isn’t bad considering what most people get put away for tax evasion and etc.

@@masterzombie161 Nevermind that he said he can arrange a deal, avoid trial and do even less time. Alos this guy is willing to spend $800k on a lawyer. Just pay the taxes?

@@christiandupont950 I’m not sure how to fill out income for selling cocaine tho on my taxes. But if he was laundering through a business yeah pay the taxes. But than the irs may tip off feds to investigate if it seems fishy and ur caught too.

​@@christiandupont950 The thing about getting mobs on tax evasion charges is not because these guys are greedy and want to keep all the money. Its because the loundred money comes from cooked books from legitimated bussiness, most of the times these bussiness generate far more money than the bussiness is worth and if you tried to declare everything as legit to the IRS they´ll see that something is off with the bussines. Clean money doesnt neccesary mean taxed money but money that comes from a legitemated place. The more you try to make more fake bussinesses to spread the illegal money the end return from your illegal operations becomes less worthy of doing it, so there is some risk of how much money you can loundry. Its not that the IRS cares that they get their share (which they do) but also from where that share comes from. There is a bottle neck in how much money you can clean to a point that the biggest criminal "empires" in real life will end up with piles of cash that they can´t even use. TL:DR : if you tax all of your illegal money you are gonna get cought for worse crimes than tax evation.

Can’t he just choose to have a trial by judge without having a jury involved? I forget the exact name for that type of trial but I believe it’s an option.

That was his biggest mistake. Not listening to Frank. Frank was right. Lay low.

@@FMP-ue6xd In their business, yes. It is not Frank's fault viagra wasn't invented in the 80's. It is a minor detail you can hear in the foam bath scene, if you know spanish language.

​@@FMP-ue6xdso you're saying Frank was wrong? Explain then

@@allmightylight8166 but frank was surrounded by rats. so he would go out oneday.

That guys soft. @@FMP-ue6xd

What caused it to go down when northerners invaded?

@@jackandrews7878idk maybe the ppl who came fuck kinda question

What do you mean Northerners invaded? Over what?

Every country in the world has been invaded and claimed but yea let's just pretend only America is the only bad invasion.

He means jewish people@@Rudenbehr

Yep, that’s when you know you stepped in it.

Yeah, and even when you make and have a lot of money, you still got to pay taxes, electricity, water, tv and internet service, rent, property tax, garbage collection, other utilities, etc. You can work hard and do the math all you want, but someone is still gonna Lord over people like you and me.

@@TPDManiacXC626 yup. You still have the same bills, only way bigger.

Millionaires?? What about the nearly 400 billionaires??

I saw stats once about how the 1%er class worked significantly less than the average person per week in ~1981, but in the present day they work far more.

Yeah and when you die you can never take it to the grave

@@henrymeyer5214Nearly every Scorcese movie has a protagonist who becomes far too egotistical and it becomes his downfall. Actually, all of them, I think or at least that involve criminality. I know this isn't a Scorcese movie, but his movies epitomise the "type" of stories the OP mentions. So, yeah, I'll have to agree with the OP.

@@raoulduke344 I am curious what his argument would be, sure there are more than one event that pushes the protagonist to make that one bad choice, so if that is his argument okay, but even then it comes down to one moment where one choice makes things fall apart.

not just a moment, a LITERAL moment, literally! the moment walt became scarface hesinmayne!

he could have survived still if he did the hit for Sosa, Sosa and his friends had enough power to make anything go away, including the tax evasion etc...

​@@FranklinSninsky but tony didn't want to kill the wife and kids in the car

@@bandz6025bad choice mission wise good morally

​@FranklinSninsky If Sosa had that much power, why not hire a Hitman to do the job?

But no one notices how Tony inadvertently saved Manny by telling him to stay out of it

​@@TheJasonJackson84He didn't trust Manny not to steal from him.

@@WithoutRemorse12 not at all, he didn't trust Manny to get the best deal on the exchange, which is why he told him that he's not a negotiator. If Tony thought Manny would be willing to steal he wouldn't have him as his partner or "junior partner in Tony's words

@@WithoutRemorse12 the entire movie was Tony and Manny... he saw Angel aa his brother but we only got him in 2 scenes. Manny was willing to do anything with Tony or for Tony and he knew that. Never did Tony imply that Manny may be untrustworthy.

Manny would have done the time, Tony would never have to go to Alejandro Sosa, also if Tony did not stab Manny for Marrying his sister he would have set off the Bomb, Tony needed to delegate to survive.🙂

100%.

Greedy

His greed got the better of him.

Nah not hardly. If you watch closely, Manny was the real fuck up. From the time they got off the boat Manny fucked up every step of the way, even leading up to the meeting with the feds🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

But Tony still should've went thru with the car bomb, sad as it may be people come and go but the hustle never dies!!!

That, not trusting anyone, getting high on his own cocaine supply didn’t help his biological, psychological and mental health either, and what really sealed his fate was his one standard of not killing women and children that got Sosa to send his army of assassins to permanently punish Tony Montana.

That restaurant scene was brutal!!

Actually the dialogue was smart like all scripts written by Oliver Stone!

but the balance is great, its just enough dialog and violence.

They were giving him 5 so he needed to do 3 years minimum

@@sssbattleaxe to be honest not wrong that prisons are like hotels I mean it depends on the type of prison though most minimum security prisons are somewhat comfortable

@@tarden132you must haven’t been in a room full of men

And he would have money stashed away for a long retirement

That depends, that scenario is only applied to crime lords who didn't commit crimes against humanity, didn't murder anybody etc... Otherwise they have to stay in prison a minimum big time. You can see where is "El Chapo" now.

i thought the camera going away from him kinda show us how alone from now on he's going to be, mainly because of his ego and lack of trust

If he agreed to the number they came up with, they would have kept it for themselves and called off the bust.

When talking to flamingoes.

It is compared to other places jails.

Jails have gotten a lot worse.. Many of them are down right inhumane now..

You don't want to be in a jail in South America or in Caribbean Cuba, trust me.

I'm pretty sure a criminal with no reliable/competent partners outside prison really doesn't want to be inside for a long time, even if the prison looked like a palace. I bet they wouldn't even want to leave town for the same amount of time, their empire would fall down in their absence.

Freedom over prison "Eye M not gunna be locked in v cage again fuhck that."

Not really. Could have easily bought the jury too.

Not as easy as you think, good example look at el chapo

That’s interesting because in Cocaine Cowboys that’s the same type of character that let them down - 😢

Hey Mang ! Data my bathroom- ju have a froblem with it ?, 😂😂😂 yeah sure ur right it’s tacky mang . I get it re done -

this is a remake of a 1932 movie.

@@_devikThat’s why he said “Which is already a remake”

@@_devik That movie was greatly watered down due to the infamous Hayes Code.

The Godfather 1 and 2 and Scarface, don't let them make remake of these treasures.

@@TPDManiacXC626 The Hayes Code is the reason why Hollywood made so many good movies . Otherwise Hollywood would have just made soft core porn and ultra violent movies

Indint think so guy a lawyer going do and say wut they want especially when they cuttin dealz

It's because he's from the Deep South. When I lived in Texas, I knew older Caucasian men who used similar phrases.

Don’t get it twisted, the lawyer was a gangster too. He knew what was up

the f*ck you are kidding me or what? are you high or something?

He already did time in Cuba and he doesn’t want his enemies to get him while he’s inside unprotected.

​@@davidc4053and he didn't want to lose his hold on the business

You ever been in jail? Nah, didn't think so

It’s not really about toughness. For someone like him, going to jail for 3 years is a death sentence. In the process of being locked away, his organization gets weak/broken. By the time he’s out, every rival knows that he’ll be trying to make a comeback… which means as soon as he is released, he’s a dead man.

Another Qualude and she'll love me again.

Remember Benny Alvarez from Tucson? Whatever happened there?

People are still doing that dumb joke?

The halfback of Notre Dame.

'Heat' up there too

Scent of a women

yap, manolo was naive, no sense of business...

A conspiracy I heard is that manny knew Seidelbaum was a fed to trap Tony so he and Gina can be happy while Tony goes to jail

Stop noticing!

😂😂😂😂💯👌👌

how is it ironic?

@@nathand4500 Scarface, Blow, Goodfellas, Boogie Nights, Casino, The Philadelphia Crime Family. The early 1980s all coincided with their downfalls. It’s like everything was good up to that point and then suddenly, chaos ensued. If you have a better word other than ironic to describe it,then I don’t have an issue editing the post.

him taking advice of manolo to work with the undercover cop was the downfall. Should have never listen to manolo in first place.

@@_devik that was bad advice. Good advice was to listen to Jerry the banker and stick with them.

​@@princessmarlena1359and even then, Manny was going to meet with the Undercover cop to make the deal and wash the Money, Tony wasn't meant to be there but felt like he had to do it himself not trusting Manolo. If Manny actually was there and got caught, it would of been a lot easier for Tony to not face jail time since he wasn't actually there, could of used a lawyer to help Manny and with his overall attitude, he wouldn't of taken the slight few years on jail as bad as Tony especially with them having the money to be treated much better locked up and how being millionaires in America in jail was a very different experience from when they were in cages in Cuba. Manny always had a grateful attitude of where they presently compared to where they were in the past, where Tony was never grateful and always unhappy with life no matter where he was.