These Hellraiser Schecter are brutal mahogany pieces, I think that's what made them sound so low and singing. Maybe less glasy than the competitors, but I prefer Schecter though
They all almost sound similar in the mix that it doesn't matter which guitar anymore. By themselves, the Schecter sounds dark, the Ibby is somewhat bright, while the Agile is surprisingly balanced.
With my headphones, in the mix the schecter sounds a little more present than the ibanez in the low midds, the i anexa sounds more scooped. Agile does sound balanced
It depends on how your listening to the track. Mobile device or PC what kind of speakers/headphones you're using, EQ settings etc. To make any claim like this "comment" is pointless since 9 out of 10 aren't using equipment to truly hear the real difference in the guitars as opposed to device/platform settings. Lol but I'm sure you're smart in other things.
Your 8 string tones are consistently the best of anybody's. Been fighting to get that clarity from the super low notes with mine, went really light on the bottom string (.072 for E/F# at 27.5") and it's just about there.
That is the secret... light AF strings that you need to learn how to handle but the tone..... I am using a .090 in B0 and in A0 in a 30 scale guitar, clear as hell, no mud at all.
but the bass at like 2 mids at 8 highs at 7. then in post EQ get rid of anything below 200 hertz with a light roll-off 200 to 2k is is what you wanna boost then drop at 2k to 5k so there's room for the high bass frequencies and boost 5k to 7k and put a roll-off after that.
@@CyclesAreSingularities If you have to make EQ moves that drastic, you’re using the wrong plug-in and IR. Your IR and speaker make the biggest difference in tone, and lower tunings tend to work better with 16ohm speakers. Try a Celestion Creamback IR close mic’d with an SM57 and either an Eminence DV77 (pick a mic that captures a more aggressive profile), or a Marshall V30 (similar sound profile as the DV77 but more aggressive).
What a blessed time to be a guitarist. So many good options. Schecter is golden for lefties like myself. Amazing not only for the price but in general.
To my ear, the Agile/SD Blackout combo instantly gave me a Doom soundtrack feel. I like that. I don't normally care for Blackouts but they seem to work well here.
The Agile proves why scale length is so important on low-tuned guitars. Both the Schecter and Ibanez sound so much muddier despite being much more expensive guitars, the Agile wins with the scale alone.
I Have an Agile Septor 827 with Cepheus passive pickups, and love how it sounds, clean and with higain amps, also with amps sims sounds great, I guess is just a matter of tweakeing and genres. Excellent review, cheers !
Ibanez - best in the mix Schecter - balanced Agile - a little dark. Sounded like dead and/or floppy strings to my ears. Needs a little tweaking on pre eq. Most probably due to its pickups Dont get me wrong. I am a huge agile fan i have an 830. But in this case the ibanez wins. I wonder what was the scale length of that agile tho.
Все хороши, ИМГ универсальный, Блекауты очень злые, но Ибанезы по душе хотя хз какой звучок стоит, немного четкости не хватает) вот бы в живую сровнять....
Ibanez sounds a tad brighter, Schecter sounds muddy at times but sounds deep on that low 8, and my favorite pick the Agile 8 ! Sounds thick and responsive
I have 2 schecters first mahogony with high gain pickups (BlackJack) and second Jeff Loomis with SD Pegasus - Sentinent pickups. Black Jack Sound is like your schecter but Jeff loomis is like Ibanez i think pickups are very important in this case.
I own an Agile 8 string and a schecter 7 string. Both play and sound great. I think Agile gets a bad rep a lot but the higher end ones play and sound great.
Hearing this I'm really glad I got rid of my EMGs 808 (I assume that's the set on the Schecter). They don't sould bad, but they lack the note definition and are a little too dark for me.
I like the deeper sounds of the Schecter and Agile guitars, the Ibanez was too uh, bright? sounding for me. If I ever decide to start exploring 7 or 8 strings anyway, I'll probably go for an Agile =]
What a great performance and wall of sound! But in my modest opinion 1st place goes to Ibanez, 2nd Agile and 3rd Schecter (a bit more muddy than rest two, or I'm wrong? :D) Cheers Bro! \m/
В общем, отличное видео о том, что если уметь рулить звук и хорошо играть, то инструмент не так важен, особенно в миксе. Больше для личных ощущений). А если поиграть в шоколатье, то на мой вкус: 1) ибанез 2) шектер 3) агил Но это не точно.
In your hands in doesn't matter what it is, it will sound good. What I noticed, to my ears, in mix agile sounded best however in solo was not my favourite. 😕
They all sound very nice but i prefere the ibanez,i think its a little bit brighter and sounds better in the mix, but thats just my opinion, overall they are all very nice!
Great vid Alex, regards and cheers 🥃 I have Schecter Damien Platinum 7 string, very cool guitar 4 me ( 8 strings is not 4 me 😉 ) I play black metal, sometimes any stoner or ambient guitar landscapes. 7 strings is very good, but i do not know what make with 8 string 😉
Which one was the most easiest to play? Ibanez necks have been some of the best and it looks so in the video too, but i have the schecter and it plays pretty sweet.
For me they all have comfortable necks to play, Schecter has a little thicker then the others, but it feels fine, i can't say that it's unhandy, maybe because of a 26'5 scale.
@@checkthedist Yes the scale length is also a factor. Mine has the 27" Scale length and it works well for me. But that's because I have big neanderthal hands. But the ibanez looks like a piece of art.
It's the opposite for me, I hear Schecter and Agile more than Ibanez. Especially at the beginning of the Ibanez sample it (to me) sounded almost like complete white noice
Still to date am waiting for an 8 string that does not sound near identically poopy as the other. I have played 7 sting for 18 years, I have no hate for more strings but 8-9 string just sound so bad to me. Thank you for the video, again no hate... just don't understand why people bother with 8+.
You're not playing the note to be heard as an actual note, you're instead going what James Hetfield said he wanted to do and that's "Play drums on the guitar" that 8 string is mainly for percussive hits. Especially palm muted.
@@Snavels I do understand what it is to play guitar and not just play notes. My point was that it's like hitting a snare that sounds just like anyone else that hits that snare... and it also sounds like poop. Again I'm not here to tell people how to play or what to play. I'm not here to attack anyone either, but I have seen no wide spread adoption of 8-9 string guitars and I can't help but wonder if it's because 1: it all sounds the same, so once you hear it, you heard it and 2: It sounds like poo poo. I could pick up an 8 string right now and play it, in fact I have. I was not like, "this is going to suck because I think 8 strings suck!" I just played it and instantly was like, wow, this sounds identical to everyone on youtube and also like poo poo. 8 strings seem to have a problem where you must play individual notes, pref quickly. BURP, BURP! BURP! Any lag and its just BUUUUUUUUURP! and if you play it with any other strings it sounds indistinguishable. I'm not saying nothing ever sounds good on an 8 string, rather, it's just really rare to me. I thought about buying an 8 string because I just bought the new headless Ibanez burl 7 string. I owned the Universe UV777P for about 18 years... In fact, the reason I see 8 string videos like this one is because I considered an 8 string, but then I hear poo poo and realize no good can come from it hahaha.
@@FEV369 @david abe yeah, it's not for everyone. Personally, too much distortion just destroys the sound, but I believe it can sound good. Listen to these tracks played on 8 and 9 strings: Black Ops "115" (8 string) At Doom's Gate (2016) (9 string) Rip and Tear (8 string) BFG Division (8 String) Rust Dust & Guts (9 string) (Find the last 4 on Mick Gordon's Channel, they're the ones produced by him) Mick Gordon (he didn't do 115) has a distinct sound and I think is one of the best utilizers of the 8-9 string guitars
@@FEV369 and if you don't like them, then it's okay, 8 string just isn't your thing and that's okay. And I agree, Metal is becoming an echo chamber and I feel like it's more than the 8/9 strings' fault
👍🤘🤝 Keep Agile & Schecter, but change the Ib*n*z to ESP E-II 8 string! Ib*n*z discriminating people’s appearances for their endorsements and their Prestige is a joke!
@@DJCD92162095 they all have something special for me, don't know, i like Agile for stability and low tunings hold, Schecter for the tone and look, and Ibanez has its own vibe and it's very comfortable.
@@checkthedist My RG2610E BLK Prestige the neck is so thin that I can’t get grip for solo, and it’s Prestige, but it’s not neck through, and it’s with Rosewood instead of Ebony fretboard! After I bought my first 7 string ESP LTD, then some ESP E-II’s, then I know there’s no going back! I like your contents very much! Just don’t know if wanna try ESP guitars if ever go for your next guitar? (Japanese guitars!) Like BABYMETAL!!! Y^_^Y
Ну шахтёр сразу по-звизде, у Аванэса можно было таки не резать так люто верха, а Тагил оказался вполне не плох на удивление, но лучше всего подошла бы ольха, но её тут нет. Так что обзор так себе, под пивас сойдёт. А по факту, звук почти вообще не имеет отличий, видимо свой самопальный импульс на выходе как у Олы. Ну и фирменный микс, как у Головина, я его называю: "хрен проссыщ где ващще бас". )))
Доброго времени суток! Хотел спросить... В качестве первого 8-струна данная модель хороша за свою цену? Agile 828 Intrepid Custom 2018 ( 600уе + доставка ~50 ) Корпус : Ясень + гнилой клён Гриф : Клён + Эбони Звучки : Cepheus
Ибанез конечно! Звякает люто, по джентовому, нет лишнего низа, как у агиле, где по сравнению с другими муть. Да извучит динамичнее. На втором месте шектер, чётко, ровно, с компрессией. Но это мои выводы по видео! Есть ли в них смысл? Хз...
Is there any chance to get one of this beautiful Agile models, because all I see on there website are these ugly ass headless waste of strings hipster guitars. 🤷♂️
They just got loads of stock on their website. I'd get an 8FF but seems they're all headless this time round & I really dislike the look of headless, they've also got a ridiculous looking 10 string FF, OMG, I kinda want it!
