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Pros and Cons of Baritone, 7 String, or 8 String Guitars? | Extended Range Guitar Discussion Review 

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This is a discussion about extended range guitars - 7 string guitars, 8 string guitars, and even baritone 6 string guitars. Do you really need this extended range and these extra strings or are 6 strings enough and these are overhyped gimmicks? This unsponsored discussion goes over the pros and cons of these types of instruments to provide information in case you’re wondering if this type of guitar is right for you.
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Over the years I’ve used both downtuned 6 string guitars as well as 7 and 8 string guitars to create music that’s both performed on RU-vid and distributed on streaming services such as Spotify. There’s no denying the utility extended range guitars provide. Even if you’re not playing heavy metal, which is where they’re most common, you can still use them to freely create music. For example, background music used in this video was recorded on the 8 string Abasi Larada Master Series you see (Contexture Campaign EP on all streaming services).
Extended range guitars push the physical limitations of the guitar both mathematically (see the acoustic beating phenomenon) and practically, stepping on the toes of the bass. You will need to rethink your guitar tone and choice of notes. If you do, a world of octaves below the standard is available to you and you can create any kind of music from hard hitting modern metal to free meandering jazz.
There are difficulties when picking up an extended range guitar. The extra strings demand both improved muting technique as well as increased attention as the additional string will get in the way of seeing what you’re playing. The difficulty is compounded by any non-standard features such as a multiscale fretboard. These strings will always be present even if you’re not playing them for most of your set, so take into consideration whether you really need those lower notes and whether they’ll fit into your recorded song’s mix or your band’s frequency space.
00:00 Intro and not sponsored
00:39 Use both drop tunings and extended range guitars
00:50 Discussing guitars with either longer scale length or more than 6 strings
01:06 Not reviewing these guitars
Why Extended Range Guitars?
01:17 Benefits of extended range
01:22 No Substitute for hitting the actual low notes
01:51 Trick to get low notes on a 6 string
02:15 Access to low notes without downtuning the standard 6 strings
02:42 Don’t have to play the lowest strings every song
03:03 Baritone 6 strings have the same width neck as standard 6 string guitars
03:10 Guitars with more strings have a wider, flatter neck
03:22 Longer scale lengths for better intonation, tension, and more space at the higher frets
03:28 Multiscale fretboards
Disadvantages of Extended Range Guitars
04:15 Disadvantages
04:26 Thin wide necks back if you prefer thick round necks
04:48 Some songs not possible on extended range guitars if they rely on 6 string tunings
05:34 Looking at more strings takes more thought
06:05 Multiscale shifts top fret markers away from treble side fret positions
06:52 Extended range guitars feel like a different instrument than a typical 6
07:07 Acoustic beating makes close intervals between low notes sound dissonant
07:45 Pitch drift on lower strings
08:07 Evertune is helpful but feels different
08:57 Lowest notes overlap with bass
09:26 Baritone 6 strings long scale length long stretches
09:44 Tuning really low because inaudible clanging
My Preferences
10:19 My preferences based off of my experiences
10:30 Extended range guitars are usable
10:43 6 string guitars will always feel like home
10:59 Use 7 strings if the song calls for it
11:23 My tunings
11:38 8 string as last resort
11:50 Why 1 whole step down tuned
12:07 Mixing low tuned guitars becomes a challenge
12:31 Pitch drift is a big factor
Overall
13:00 Do you need an extended range guitar?
13:04 Yes if you need to hit the low notes
13:24 Otherwise definitely not
14:13 Outro
14:36 Cat

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Комментарии : 54   
@DarthCalculus
@DarthCalculus 9 дней назад
As a (primarily) pianist I definitely identify with stepping on other instruments' ranges. Had a bass player once point to my lowest octave and basically tell me not to play those notes
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
Haha hopefully that's before you guys started playing and not after!
@EmileA-gs1kk
@EmileA-gs1kk 6 дней назад
I mean… you bought the whole piano, go use the whole piano.
@Crispy_Music_2024
@Crispy_Music_2024 2 дня назад
Thank you for making these types of videos. They are really enjoyable to watch and the info you share is valuable, especially when we can't get in-person experience with guitars and have to buy before we try.
@HighZ
@HighZ 2 дня назад
Thanks! I'm glad these are informative and enjoyable. I wanted to make videos covering things I wish I knew when researching, so your kind words mean a lot!
@ALBOIN85
@ALBOIN85 День назад
Quite a collection of guitars you have there!
@HighZ
@HighZ День назад
Thanks!
@brunofaustino3689
@brunofaustino3689 9 дней назад
I was having the same talk with my drummer today! I have two 7 string guitars but I am thinking in buying a 8 string guitar for our new album! Great video, btw!
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
Sweet, what a coincidence! There's definitely a lot to think about when making the jump for 7 to 8 strings
@brunofaustino3689
@brunofaustino3689 9 дней назад
@@HighZ Yes, really, it was a coincidence! We usually play in drop B, but now I am also playing in drop A with a 7-string guitar... As we are writing new stuff, we are exploring different tones and an 8-string and/or baritone guitar may be a good addition. Also, I am more in tune with Ibanez than previously.
@eggpod4567
@eggpod4567 7 дней назад
​@@brunofaustino3689Dude, look into Agiles from Rondo music. They have an 8 string right now with a flody rose, with active EMG pick-ups. For 749. They're so well built. My Ibanez RG-8. Needs some upgrades. My Agile comes studio ready basically. They're perfect. It has a 28 inch scale too. I just got an Interceptor pro myself. (Got the last one) and it seven better then the one I mentioned. It has 3 pick-ups, along with the other features listed above. It's the best guitar I've ever owned. I swear by them.
@fionnwallenwein7110
@fionnwallenwein7110 6 дней назад
whats the band name dude, im always down for some music i havent listened to!
@juser-abuser
@juser-abuser 3 дня назад
@@brunofaustino3689 start to learn basic chords, edgy kid
@michaelbeach3269
@michaelbeach3269 2 дня назад
Finally a normal guitar review!!!!
@michaelbeach3269
@michaelbeach3269 2 дня назад
Correction not a guitar review...... extended range review lol
@HighZ
@HighZ 2 дня назад
All good. I try to give information and not twist anything! There also are guitar reviews on the channel like this too
@Pianomusicwithiuliia
@Pianomusicwithiuliia 9 дней назад
Excellent video, my friend, - thanks for information !!😊❤🔥
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
Thank you, glad you liked it!
@avidia_music
@avidia_music 10 дней назад
What a wonderful collection of guitars man, I'm so jealous!!
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
Thank you! I figure I can use them to give useful information in addition to making music
@Nachtmahr616
@Nachtmahr616 9 дней назад
Evertune is the best thing that has happened in terms of guitar inventions, imo. Boomers hate it but I love such modern solutions to common annoyances. Just got my first one on a Solar T1.7, so I hope it will reduce the need for baritone scales, since my goblin hands really don't like them
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
Haha awesome! I love my T1.7 so I get the feeling you're going to love yours too! You're right, the evertune is a fantastic addition to modern guitar features
@str11pes
@str11pes 3 дня назад
this is really good bro. subd
@HighZ
@HighZ 3 дня назад
Thanks, I appreciate it!
@gardengit
@gardengit 10 дней назад
Great and informative video. There is also the 7th string on classical guitars which can be a new color. Thanks so much for sharing👌
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
Thanks! Yep I've seen them in videos. Waiting for the day to see one in person!
@Consolous
@Consolous 9 дней назад
I'm familiar with the different voice types and one of the male voices is Baritone so I always wondered about Baritone guitars. This is some great info, maybe in the future I'll consider one for heavier stuff and lower tones like Sludge metal. Beautiful guitars by the way and another great review my brother
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
One could be useful! It'll of course always feel different than your 6 string. And thanks!
@alice_piano
@alice_piano 8 дней назад
Excellent sharing🙌👍Have a pleasant week :)
@HighZ
@HighZ 8 дней назад
Thank you and you too!
@MarmaladeMaki
@MarmaladeMaki 8 дней назад
Also these gigantic guitars with cool funky abstract shapes and gigantic fretboards just look great if you are not the smallest person. Which is maybe a weird reason.
@HighZ
@HighZ 8 дней назад
It always helps when a guitar looks cool because then you'll be motivated to pick it up and play it!
@vonicrimson3619
@vonicrimson3619 19 часов назад
I treat my 7 string a little differently, for b standard I can use drop a and drop d which is pretty cool
@HighZ
@HighZ 10 часов назад
Yep a huge advantage is you can have drop A and/or drop D on the same guitar
@JoeFiumara
@JoeFiumara 9 дней назад
Great review interesting and informative 👍 Awesome guitars 🎸😎 The only time I owned an eight string guitar was to play final fantasy prelude to get the low octave Never really played it after that.
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
That'll be perfect for that! But yeah I need to really try to use the 8 string. Otherwise the 6 or 7 strings are enough. And thanks!
@ProgSchmock
@ProgSchmock 7 дней назад
Pro: sounds sick :) Con: harder to play :(
@HighZ
@HighZ 7 дней назад
Pretty much
@willkeasling1526
@willkeasling1526 6 дней назад
Anything over a 6 string doesn't work for me cause I dig into my low e string and that extra string changes my style of playing.
@HighZ
@HighZ 5 дней назад
I hear you on that. The 7th string does take some getting used to every time, and then adding an 8 string starts to get a little ridiculous. 6 strings will always feel just right!
@Kaptainbeer
@Kaptainbeer 7 дней назад
Top G
@HighZ
@HighZ 6 дней назад
🔝
@DarthCalculus
@DarthCalculus 10 дней назад
I wouldn't even mind having five strings... Got to have that low open string to hit
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
The five string bass is really useful! Even if you don't play the 5th string, you can anchor hour thumb on it
@DarthCalculus
@DarthCalculus 9 дней назад
@@HighZ every once in a while, I think about either getting a baritone or putting a baritone neck on a regular six-string body. I just don't know if it's worth the investment of time and money
@HighZ
@HighZ 9 дней назад
Up to you! It would be useful and unlock a new world of possibilities. But it would always feel different than your standard 6 string and as you pointed out, it might overlap with your bass notes. Maybe if there's some particular songs you'd like to do?
@Crispy_Music_2024
@Crispy_Music_2024 2 дня назад
​@DarthCalculus - For a given tuning, the longer scale you have on a guitar, the more overtones it'll create and be more "musical" just like going from a small piano to a grand piano. Short scales make the fundamental frequency the main output. If you play alone there's a significant musicality benefit to longer scales. If you play with a band, the longer scales will just cause more interference and cross-over with the bass guitar. If the bass or guitar plays more percussive notes, then that's not as much of an issue. If the bass and the guitar both play longer notes or drones, then it's more of an issue. I'm building another baritone from a used Squier strat (100) and new Fender Baritone 27" scale conversion neck (which was 269). That's about as cheap as it gets for making a baritone. Buying fully new from Gretsch and Danelectro isn't much more. If you're lucky, you can find a Squier baritone used and it'll likely be cheaper. Is it worth it to have a guitar that is more musical like a grand piano? I think so. Also, you could just use it as a transposing instrument, and tune it to D-standard, C#-standard, C-standard, B-standard and beyond depending what actual scale it is. To me, it's a whole lot of fun using the exact same fingering+fretting and outputting a key-shifted song. Finally, another benefit is physical and mental. Playing a guitar with different fret-spacing due to scale, will exercise your brain which is a good for us all in the long run. That's another reason I have guitars in scales of 24", 25.5", 27", 25.5-27" fanned fret, 30" (guitar and bass), 34" bass, 35" bass (4 and 5 string). Yes, I'm really big on worrying about neuroplasticity while aging.
@arunkarthikma3121
@arunkarthikma3121 7 дней назад
Open strings? Tune to Eb or D standard and use a capo lol
@HighZ
@HighZ 7 дней назад
That might work for drop tunings or standard tunings but not for open chord tunings
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