Science Nerd Vs Pro Bodybuilders 

yeah everyones body reacts different to different training if thats not the case then everyone would be olympian level athletes that just needed to put alot of time in the same program. Always try to find the best techniques and training style for your size and body type. Take awhile thus why people quit the gym their first go around just to find that right regiment for them. But once you find that regiment thats right for you and you stay consist with it and show up most days you will transform.

He applied science to the only sample that matters: himself.

@@panampace no disagreement

@panampace Right? So much tension between two sides for little to no *_real_* reason. 😂

😂 I literally got a giggle out of watching that part of the vid...but not in a bad way, just thought it was cool how these guys are interacting. Love it.

the way 5 plates flew up is insane

"...the cameras are not here" sounds like some sexual teasing idk

Jeff's reaction was fucking hilarious. "Ok uh don't do this."😂

🤣Nothing motivates you harder than knowing you could die.

he trains for difficult not for muscle growth

As much as I like Jeff no one gives advice to a god

There is no science the Grizzly doesn't already know about. He doesn't need any advice from mere mortals.

Kyriakos invented science. He is simply evolving our known science before dropping Science 2.0

he’ll eat jeff 🙁

You couldnt summ It Up better. The greatest are the ones that were always willing to learn

Yes exactly! They have cognitive flexibility!

they also all probably have coaches who have guided them at some point i believe

good form != science mind muscle connection was always one of the tenants of bodybuilding training and that implies full range of motion and lengthy negatives, and that's way before any research on that was started being made

there is no such thing as 'scientifically' good form

@@naantjez There obviously is lmao

@@seyadeodinwhat do you think science is

it’s not crazy at all, why do you think that? it’s exactly what I’d expect, the most skilled people are usually the most open minded and accepting

It's a side effect of doing hard shit.

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Also, big dogs don't act like chihuahuas.

"You'd never see a hater doing better than you." ~ David Goggins

😂

My sides

🤣 I’m died

And its made up of 16 mini workouts

hahahah, good one

8 protein shakes

Nostalgia

Rich history of humour in this world

Good to see you here Hampton!

you my friend have a beautiful day

Hampton! Wasnt expecting you here

"Borlest forbidden money books! Unbelievable Offer! Get 20 amazing courses for just $35!" riiight... and the website has a guy posing in a V for Vendetta mask in front of a Ferrari, a picture of Andrew Tate and some AI girl in lingerie.

Dude people are delusional. Jeff has an excellent natty physiqe. Top level.

​@@User-xw6kdhe weighs 150lbs. Most skinny guys who don't lift weigh more than him. He is tiny with a mid physique.

@@baz1184exactly he is mediocre on every level and he’s so passive aggressive

also Jeff has professionally competed in both bodybuilding and powerlifting competitions with a solid amount of success in the past

@@baz1184 You gotta be kidding. Jeff is short so 150 is plenty for him. He has a nice filled out frame. I'm like 165 but way smaller than him. This fixation on specific weights is brain dead.

amen!

What happened?

Nthn, people keep calling jeff a nerd, so this is his way to respond to all those critiques​@@nAcolz

Some roid head said Jeff cant critique Sam Sulek because he's bigger ​@nAcolz

Yo bro I'm a big fan of yours!

Yes, definitely. They're all wayyy bigger than him.

​@@RyanAl92They also use the whole damn pharmacy while jeff don't..

@@bve7397 Yes, those people take a lot of steroids but... They're definitely bigger.

Dudes forearm was bigger then Jeff's whole arm haha

@@RyanAl92you're also forgetting that jeff is 5'6

thats the difference between brain and big mouth i guess. brilliant response!

Absolutely! A soft person would have clapped back with a defensive video, a smart person makes it into an excellent and entertaining piece of media. Bravo Jeff. 👏

Yea. Mr squeaky voice would just yell at the camera for 20 minutes with the most ridiculous clickbait title.

What did he actually prove though... everyone was already big, science or no science (yes I know roids), and the people who he gave 'good marks' to already had good form...but was it because of science they had good form or just because they have figured out over years of lifting what works for them

@@bobbyb7018 that you don’t have to be a massive roid head to give good advice? What 😂 it’s pretty damn obvious brother

Not all

Jeff is 5'3 size

@@milesgrant3507he seems like 5’10

@@necrosisorsomething8259 no way he is 5'10 lol you good ?? He is like 5'5 he looks tiny

@@milesgrant3507So? What matters is weight, and he’s bigger than you

same!

Bro I had to go back and replay the video because I thought it was definitely a smitch machine lol

that's the advantage of nurturing good ROM

Yes but the big question is. What is that? A boy pr a girl?

@@sampetersson5887 it's a woman on a lot of testosterone. this is common in body building

Can someone explain what you mean? What's the drama?

@slaktaren4849 just some folks online memeing some of Jeff's more nerdy takes, stuff like that lying cable pull. Eric Bugenhagen did some vids.

What reels? I feel like I missed something.

@@laegu5430 The thing is, nobody seems to give any critique as to why it's not a good exercise. They just criticise how it looks.

​@Killmaster7 Yeah, man that really rubbed me the wrong way, especially because he was too pussy to even say Jeffs name

Refreshing to see? You can't compare Sam Sulek's or your average gym bro training style with an advanced competitive bodybuilder. The focus on strict form already started in the nineties with Dorian. His influence is still strong these days.

Pros actually tend to have picture-perfect technique. I know a few personally.

The best part is the guy that this video is in response to is the one that trains a majority of these bodybuilders on their techniques...

@@N8_Dogg Best part? As you can see there's not much critique on their technique. Like him or hate him, but Mike van Wyck has a positive influence in that regards. Jeff would be a man if he starts a debate with him, not this childish nonsense.

@@the_notorious_bas bro wtf are you talking about. My point is Jeff's complimenting all these guys when Mike's the one who has helped alot of them. Imo Mike's top 3 fitness voices on YT

Obsessed with the form is ego too

@@norodzubara8888 Do these guys seem like they're obsessed with form? They accept his advice on their form and they act respectful without getting defensive, how is that "obsessive" or "ego" in any way?

Well, given that their physiques were built by steroids abuse, humility is only reasonable choice when faced with an accomplished natty bodybuilder.

​At this point does everything just become ego?

@@thomasdovell3003 Whole load of garbage. I guarantee you that every dude in this video without steroids would still be bigger than Jeff.

bro your arms are as big as my thighs, Allahumma barik

👏👏👏👏

Reply video to what?

To what?

@@moe-7544 the guy @ 0:08 criticized Jeff for being to nerdy, something like that, then Greg made a video reacting to his video

​@@moe-7544Wycked training called Jeff out and was very disrespectful about it. Jeff replied in a very classy way

​@sarthak.k Greg throws shade at Jeff and I'm not sure why. Jeff seems like the nicest guy

Except Jesus ru-vid.comXxjEgAv7KE4?si=dzdUjWy1ft2TurfW

I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing and that is that I know nothing -Socrates

@@EliasTriantafyllou-dp7dp Solomon was the wisest “behold, I have done according to thy words: lo, I have given thee a wise and an understanding heart; so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee.” ‭‭1 Kings‬ ‭3‬:‭12‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭5‬:‭8‬-‭9‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Please repent n believe the gospel to be saved from eternal wrath

Even Ronnie Coleman said that years ago on his Relentless DVD. He asked an amateur bodybuilder to help him with his poses as the guy was better than Ronnie at it.

@@alansmith4655 All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Due to our sin. Hell is the punishment .“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21‬:‭8‬ ‭KJV‬‬ but Jesus who is God. Came down to earth as a man lived a perfect life never sinned people got jealous of him got him convicted on false charges then he died buried and resurrected Remember how I said our sin is why we can’t go to heaven? The only thing that can wash away your sins in the blood of Jesus “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Roman’s 5:8-9 KJV So to get saved is super easy “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭8‬-‭9‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Salvation is a free gift by faith alone. You can’t earn it by going to church, getting water baptized, or by any good thing you do. “For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.” 2 Corinthians‬ ‭7‬:‭10‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Then you just have to feel guilty and sorry for being a sinner and repent for being a sinner. Do you feel guilty for being a sinner? If you do then there’s just one final step. “that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭9‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Pretty much all you have to do is tell God out loud with your mouth that you believe the gospel. That’s it super simple. You MUST mean it from your heart to work. You can pray something like this “dear God i repent as a sinner. i believe jesus is God, who died, buried, and ressurected, so his blood can wash away my sins. so i only trust in the blood alone to save me not my good works. Save me from hell in jesus name i pray amen” If you meant it your saved!

I am small compared to mostly every other dude. But in all my years (15) of weight training I never had a confrontation with anybody. The only negative experience was with an old pensioneer who blocked machines and went to talk to other people for half an hour without even marking he is using the machine, only to come back and tell you to go elsewhere. Told him off the second time and it's never been a problem since.

It's because he lead with getting them to agree to take on his advice

Giant 8k camera and mic on your face, you would be willing to listen to advice too.

Imagine someone with a huge camera comes to your face and ask the same, will you say no get the f out of here ? 😂😂😂

I'm sure there were people he approached who told him that they weren't interested or who just dismissed him outright - and fair enough, I wouldn't want to star in someone's RU-vid video while I'm in the middle of my workout at the local gym either. I think a lot of the people in the video either already knew who Jeff is or were told when they came in that day that people were filming and so they might be approached. No doubt Jeff got permission from the gym to be there and to potentially film their customers working out. People here in the comments acting like everyone would perform for a sudden private camera in a public space like a broken and trained circus monkey just because they would themselves 🤦‍♂️

I wish it were more black people. Whenever I'm in the gym, they look like complete fools but still get jacked.

which is wise and very true. unfortunately, there are many not aware of it.

So true and you are a cutiefoofie lol hit the gym often?

​@@bruiseleeroy7010Stop creeping on girls in the comments section.

@@user-Aaron- game is game

@@user-Aaron- lmao he just wants to talk

I'm guessing quite a few people know who he is. He is one of the bigger presences in the fitness community. Also, a lot of them seem like genuinely nice people, so they'll at least entertain the idea when it's coming from someone else genuinely nice.

I wouldn’t exactly say strangers, this is the gym that he trains at. So he should at least know of the IFBB pros that train there also. But yeah, Jeff does come off as a cool dude.

Can someone explain what you mean? What's the drama?

Which memes?

@@slaktaren4849 I think he means that there are people who hate on science lifters. Its kind of a meme that big guys just dont like the science based lifting

@user-wn2pv5qb5p Thanks!

​@@Anisozygoptera Basically Mike doesnt enjoy when people focus so much on science and such instead of focusing on actual form and training. Jeff went on to criticize sulek when sulek is big even without following the science which kinda invalidates what Jeff preaches in a way. If you see a Mike video you will realize he goes into way more detail on how to move and even talks about how to grab dumbells and such. He also enjoys bodybuilding and that is all he cares about so he is against the normalization of powerlifting moves in the gym as it will probably just going to hurt you in the long run. Anyway, both Jeff and Mike make good content. Too bad they dont get along.

Did not expect to see MattHDGamer here lol i used to watch you back when i played fifa

My paycheck could never

facts bro

Maybe that'll convince him to juice.

Nah after this I’d be juicing lmao Jeff’s a better man than me 😭

I hope not. He looks amazing. Looks more aesthetic to me as well, the mass monsters look cool but it's too much for me personally

Especially because he has that trans guys vibe (voice and beard style)

is he really only 125 lbs though? 💀💀

What part of Jeff's advice don't you agree with?

@@carlodonn8983 Most of his advice is pretty bad. Like, if you're training 6 days a week on PPL, Upper Body, etc. and all of your exercises put the muscle in a deep stretch, there's far too much fatigue. The best split to follow is a 3-6x a week HSP Full Body. Jeff just isn't as knowledgable as people think he is.

That was so funny!

Who's the bodybuilder in that part of the video?

Yeah even though the guy giving advice was totally random dude without popular youtube channel and there wasn't a camera anywhere.

Because he is small.people tend to believe people that achieved something and have "proof" of there argument.If he is so smart why he looks so bad?I would always listen some shredded big guy because obviously he know what he's doin

​@Bodybuildingmotivationn Jeff is small?? In what world? You're standards are warped

@@DomaceAnimacije But Jeff doesn't look bad wtf?

@@DomaceAnimacije Jeff has a better physique than 95% of people. If you think he looks bad then you may have body dysmorphia buddy.

Ok

Yea he should do this at la fitness lmao (I need free coaching)

Yeah I was a little surprised honestly, really good form.

Technique isn't everything. Ronnie had sloppy technique and he was the greatest.

@@clamum9648 You're surprised that the top level people are the best at doing what makes them the top level people?

They are also on steroids

I mean he's still "one of the"

@@4AIM_LINKED2 big facts

You mean bench presser? Lmao

why would you saying you're short be hate huh

@@grimu8844 What do you mean? I'm 166 cm tall

@@grimu8844 Did you even read bro's comment?

@saitama3795 How? I'm literally just expalining to him that the guy did not mean to hate? Also, your height is irrelevant. I'm short myself.