I love that Ian took the fact that Anti-Sonic was "just Sonic but bad", and actually made that a core factor of his motiviations for everything he does. He's tired of just being "the bad Sonic" and gives himself a new name, but doesn't stop there, and gives his entire world a new name, as well as the rest of the Anti-Freedom Fighters (renamed Supression Squad), giving them their own identities. Then he turns the whole "just Sonic but bad" thing on its head and tells Sonic that he's just one bad day from becoming just like him. The comics also showed Scourge, for all his grandstanding, was far more vulnerable than he let on. A scolding from Jules actually hit him and caused him to cry, and after spending time in the Zone Prison and being the prison bi**h, his spirit is broken and he just wants to keep his head down to avoid more trouble, actually becoming angry when Fiona arrives to try to bust him out.
I've gotta say a lot of my memories of Scourge were just of him being an Edgier Sonic (which to be fair when he was just Evil Sonic that's all he really was) but rereading a lot of these comics reminded me of just how much Character they gave Scourge to the point where although being Sonic from another dimension he actually stands as his own interesting character separate from Sonic
I love how Sonic turned it back on him, pointing out that by the same concept it'd be easy as making a few kinder choices for Scourge to improve himself.
@@FantasticSamtastic same !! he should totally be his own character, i hate that ken penders sued sega, now they’ll never have the legal rights to use him:(
8:18 Context: In Mobius Prime, there once was thousands of chaos emeralds, but Tails and Shadow fused them and other emeralds from across their universe to form the 7 Chaos Emeralds. So in Moebius, since there probably wasn’t an event like that, the Anarchy Baryl has never been reduced to just 7.
My theory is that Finitevus knew the Super Genesis Wave was coming, and he had a plan to ensure that he, Scourge, and Fiona were recreated, which got a little thrown off due to a combination of factors and they ended up being imperfectly reborn in the IDW continuity as Starline, Surge, and Kit. Granted, the only similarity between Fiona and Kit is that they're foxes...
I know Penders didn't create Scourge, but did he really copyright Evil Sonic? How the fuck can he do that? If I just put sunglasses and a leather jacket on Mario, I couldn't copyright "Evil Mario" as my own original character.
It gets double ridicules with Ken when you remember that he at the same time thinks Shade the Echidna is to similar to Julie-Sue and should belong to him because of it.
@@kingjamesc1156 yeah, but his “design” was cool as evil sonic. His development as a character became better when he became scourge. Both as evil sonic and scourge the design were cool, and he was a interesting take on what Sonic would be as evil.
They should canonically make Scourge the main rival/villain to Sonic because Scourge had one of the best Character Development in the whole Sonic Franchise. His transition from being an evil sonic to being his self that he is not just a sonic who is bad but scourge with motives from experience (Like how he gained control of his dimension). Also For Shadow to still be the rival of Sonic is just not there anymore. Shadow is basically Sasuke now. Lastly, Scourge is also one of those who has Super mode like the Big 3 Hedgehogs.
I would love to see more Scourge, it's too bad he's stuck with Penders though. Although, with Tangle and Whisper showing up more its not like comic characters are completely separate now
Anti-sonic' s design gets a lot of flak But in comparison to other Evil MC versions he looks more different with the glasses and Jacket Most tend to be dark/purple palette swaps of the OG
Imo since Ian Flynn is now writing the games as well he should just go to court with Penders he can keep all of his characters except Scourge and have him as a villain since Eggman has been the only villain in the series now so having Scourge back would be a fresh start and could make a very interesting plot of sonic (or Scourge) collecting memory tokens so Sonic can remember the pre-SGW era
I love Scourge as a character!! He shows Sonic as the worst person he could possibly become, like using his abilities for his own selfish gain instead of helping people, his cockiness twisting into egomania, and his rebellious nature making him obsessed with anarchy and chaos. Scourge is aware that he’s just a “Saturday cartoon villain” character and not a serious threat, and everything he does is in pursuit of trying to prove he’s something more than that. His inferiority complex and need to prove himself ultimately leads to his own downfall and he only has himself to blame. It seems that Surge has kind of taken this role, and while I think she’s doing a great job as a Sonic foil, I’ll always have a soft spot for the classics.
One of my favorite examples of antiverse characters / I still want to see the adventures of scourge in the antiverse dealing with the counterparts of other characters
I don’t think scourge kill his father maybe it’s was accident He pretendeds he strong when Sonic father was threatens him He was scared and cry someone Who kill his own father will never Holding back and run away
I actually never got the time to finish the whole comic series! And I always wondered about scourge. So this was very informative and helpful! Please make more videos, I’m interested about doctor Finitevus more! Keep up the great work!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! It was a lot of fun to make and I've been debating doing a Dr Finitevus version of this but I wasn't sure if people would want to see these types of videos
when i found out that scourge was erased i genuinely cried, i love his character so much and I'm so sad to see him erased, ik it's stupid to cry over and the genesis wave happened years ago but i still love scourge, he's so cool.. I'm so sad :(
Fun fact: the world wasn't always called Moebius. After the events of Knuckles Enerjak transformation, Scourge and Fiona returned to their Mobius, conquered it, and Scourge changed his world's name to Moebius as one things to alter his world from the prime Mobius alongside with forcing the suppression squad to undergo changes to make them deadlier and suppressing the urge to rebel. These included Boomer altering himself with robotics and Scourge tearing out Patch's eye respectively.
Best of all is last I saw him talk about it he Wanted to give Scourge a chest Tattoo instead of the scars because he thought those were tattoos. He doesn't even know anything about Scourge
He literally just pops in. If I remember, it's been a hot minute, he teleported in with Metal Sonic right after he teleported out of the first Sonic Universe story
So kinda interestingly I stumbled on that while making my Ken Penders video because I had mistaken one the drawings of scourge done by the artist of Scourge:Eternal Black out as being official work. In the weirdest of coincidences he ended up stumbling on that video and mentioning it lol.
If there was a story reason of everyone remembering the events before the super genesis wave here is what it would be. Let me introduce you to an ideal sonic oc i created his name is genesis the hedgehog aka mr g (i picked the name genesis because of the name being a homage to the sega genesis) his appearance would be a grey hedgehog with green eyes but he would hide his identity for story reasons il mentioned later and his disguise is a black metallic mask similar to zeros mask from zero escape 999 and a black cloak similar to chris Redfields coat from resident evil 8. Abilities crossing through different sonic universe's, healing abilities stoping time like dio from jojo part 3 and going back in time. His backstory is that he originated in the game universe and he was sonics oldest brother and he was Gerald robotniks assistant and he was very close to maria and he gave his dna to the black arms to make shadow. He experimented with both dnas which made a cure for marias disease but he needed to test it out and so he injects the disease on himself and drinked the cure proving it worked but then g.u.n came and killed maria making genesis go on a demonic rage but maria told genesis not to kill anyone and then g.u.n soldiers shot genesis but it turns out that the cure turns people immortal so he took many samples of the cure with him and left the ark going back to mobius. He was also freinds with cream the rabbits father and my reason he is not in the games was that genesis was being hunted down by the dark brotherhood from sonic chronicles because they sense a power in genesis and he didn't want creams father to get involved so he sent him far away from mobius so that they dont harm him. Anyway genesis gets cornered by the dark brotherhood so he jumped of a cliff faking his death but he gets trapped in a cave but then he discovered that he has the power to cross through the different sonic universe's and so he left and ended up in the archie universe while fiona the fox was captured by robotnik and he also got captured by robotnik and was transported to the same prision as her and they became very close freinds untill genesis was sent to public execution and people including fiona assumed he died but thanks to being immortal he faked his death leaving the universe. He then meets extra life sonic from the fleetway universe and mecha sonic from the game universe and redeemed them both which they both join him. Now you might be wondering how is related to bringing back the events of the pre super genesis wave well by some accident he came back to the archie universe and he went back in time to stop the super genesis wave from even happening and then scourge and fiona came in and when genesis (wearing the mask and coat) he was angry at scourge for making her like this and so he goes on a quest with extra life sonic and mecha sonic to help redeem fiona and scourge from taking over the multiverse.
@@FantasticSamtastic also genesis theme would be the special stage theme from sonic 1 because that song is good in my opinion and its not really used anymore as well as the special stage itself. You know what i actually wanted to use the special stage from sonic 1 as a part of the sonic-genesis story as a way of characters that are not genesis traveling to the different sonic universe's and its also kinda like a home for genesis.
Scourge is a character alot of us can relate to a degree because we've all put are souls into winning into wanting people to see us as the sh*t that we know we can been deep down but everyone else veiws us a weak jokes until we dissappear for a while N come back on demon time with everyone now submitting to us💚🖤💯
Oh I remember him, the man had never seen a hedge lol. For sure one of the more questionable Sonic characters and maybe not on the same level as Scourge 😂
Can you do a video on anti-tails? He seems like a cool character based off of the design but I haven't been able to find anything about this character.
I could probably do a short one if I have time. Sadly there's just not a lot to him which is a bummer but also kinda the case with the anti freedom fighters
