Nice job on the video. It pained me to think of having to spend $500 to have the dealer do this. All I need is the basic adjustment after adding the screamin' eagle air filter. Should work just fine. Thanks!
Appreciate that, waiting on the new pipes to arrive and intake and really had no idea how I was going to deal with this whole tuning issue. I do now , and it always makes me nervous when I DON'T know shit and know I dont know it. Guess its time for cold beer now.
Just take your time mate 👌. Just get used to the program. No need to veer off to the in depth parts, just the standard tune. I have other vids explaining more tuning if needed on the sert tuner, but for now. Just the standard map load up and away you go 👍👍. Cheers
I just did this today, holy shit I was floored worth every penny. It's like 25-30% faster & more responsive . About $300. Tuner and reflashed it was a special this month. It really awakened my bike, night and day difference...
Spot on mate!. Glad its helping people out. There will be more in depth tune up vids coming up but be patient, new workshop being built so channel be quiet for a while, keep watching 👍
THE ALCHEMIST so far the black SE pro tuner and the new auto tuner . Remember Harley got hit with a $15 million dollar fine by the EPA over that orange race tuner. This is why they will void your warranty or prevent you from getting a extended warranty.
Hey dude thanks for your informative and easy to follow videos! I got lost in the super tuner pro instruction manual and was glad to find your channel. Tuned my bike and did the decel adjustment as well. Bike now runs and sounds great. Thanks again!!
Good to hear mate and thanks for watching. There are a few vids on the tuning series now. The last one was the new map with decel which eliminates 100% pop. Glad it helped you out 👍
Excellent 👌, cheers.. some of the more in depth map tuning can also be applied to your bike in the later map building videos, but if the bike is fine after 1st flash then happy days 👍👍
Thank you for posting this video. Shortly after purchasing my 2012 FLHX, I had the H-D dealer install a SE 50MM Hi-Flo air intake cleaner, Vance&Hines P-Dual headpipe, and Hi-Flo slip-on exhaust. They also sold me the SE -EFI Super tuner and programmed the whole setup. I have since changed the Headpipe and mufflers. I'm wondering if I should reprogram my motorcycle using the SE Tuner, that I have. I'm going to look into purchasing the cables and download the SE program onto my computer. I believe with your video I can perform the tune you described here.
Hi mate, thanks 👍. And yes, if you have changed components, it is worthwhile to reflash/ map ecm following the instructions. Also doing a road ride with the box connected and then uploading data.. any problems when you have the leads etc.. let me know 👍
Majority of tuners are linked to one bike, but like you say , others are cable free, which are a lot better for tuning on the go. I would definately have gone for fp3 type if the sert tuner wasnt already linked to my bike 👍
@@ALCHEMOTO When I purchased my Sportster, it had a SE tuner on it. I yanked that bad boy for an fp3, and now I am likely swapping the entire ECM for a thundermax!
great video. thx . I had an FP3 on my old Roadster, now on my new roadster (yes I missed it so much I bought it again), the Stealership told I have to use the SE tuner and that FP3 voids the warranty - what a load of crap. Oh well. I also noticed you have installed the Fuel Indicator. I wanted to do it on my Old Roadster, but definitely going to do it on the new one. Do you have a video of the Fuel gauge install?
The amount of stories i hear of people goin back to sporties 😀. And h.d with warranty crap. 🤔. Would be so much better if h.d would have kept maps updated for all applications, as not everyone can build their own . Anyway, i did the fuel gauge addition before the channel, so no tutorial for that but it is straight forward and instructions are supplied. Basically plugs in but tank off to replace sender. 👍
Watched several of these videos and nobody explains how to get the software installed? they already have in on their laptops? I tried but it keeps asking for the VCI sn i entered two different numbers on back to VCI (super tuner) but it does nothing? just says re-enter your serial number??? do you need all cables connected to bike and laptop in order to download software?.. when I figure out how to do this I will make a complete instructional video that includes "All" details of installation starting with what is the "VCI"
If you have the orange tuner. It needs to be the correct software version. SERT. screamin eagle race tuner and not for black box. SEPT screamin eagle pro tuner. Or wont accept vci number. Unfortunately. H.D pulled the link off to download SERT For lawsuit reasons but there are still a handful of 3rd party links on forums if you search. I had a link but not at this minute. Only as others with software on laptop. 👍
Thanks 👍. The leads used to be available to order from any dealer. You first have to make sure you get correct one, you need to look at the plug on the bike to see if its 4 or 6 pin, the other end is standard. There is sometimes a good few new leads for sale on ebay as well so shouldbt be difficult finding one for your bike 👍
Do you have to drive and get the recorded data to install the stage 1 tune? Thinking about buying the tuner and doing it myself as I feel my bike has dropped/lost its tune
You dont need to, can always do that after if you feel the need, just load up map and ride, see how it is, usually thats all h.d will do anyway if pre installed map, can always tweak it later 👌
Yes it still will be useful to tune with slip ons, just use the standard stage 1 map and autotune, there are more specific map building videos on my channel for more in depth tuning. Thanks 👍
So my bike already had the SE heavy breather and SE II full slash cut muffler system. It was tuned with this tuner and ran well. I since put V & H big radius pipes on it for more noise, do I have to custom tune it now or can I still find some kind of preset in the program?
Hi Rick. Yes, it does marry to the bike, so once done it cannot be used on another, only the sofware can be used to tune other bikes that have their own module/ tuner. A few second hand tuners appear for sale by folk not realising this so is a common question .. 👍
Hi, there wont be any base maps on the sert tuners for street 500. The last software updates were around 3 year ago. Most now have moved to fp3 tuners or similar after 2016/17. Thanks
Hi, Its getting harder to find online since H.D pulled the link. If you search forums there are a few links still there. Failing that. Message me via my fbook page and will sort via email. 👍
Having watched a few of tour videos on The Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Pro. I can see how retuning would possibly cure the issues I have. They are hesitation at around 30mph (which you mentioned in another Video) and decal popping, I have sent for the Leads and downloaded the software. My Bike is a 2016 Dyna Street Bob, and was Stage 1 tuned by my Harley Dealer when purchased from new. As I am now waiting for Leads to arrive I had a look at the options on the Screamin Eagle Software. I notice however. in the Manually Select File Tab my Bike is not mentioned, I assume this is because the Dyna's have been discontinued. Can I use another Bike option in place of my Bike? Thanks for the Video's
Firstly , thanks for watching the videos 👍. And secondly, check what model year the bikes go up to on your software. H.D dont update any more but depends on what version you are running. I will try to check if its on mine over weekend. But when you get leads, it should recognise ecm and bike. There are more files in program under a folder that might not list until you plug in. 👍
@@ALCHEMOTO Sorry to trouble you again, but I just realised I had downloaded the Software for The Pro Street Tuner and not the Super Tuner Pro. I cant seem to find the software download for this Tuner. When I connect to my Bike, I am getting warning that VCI is incorrect type. Can you advise?
@@jamesmacdonald6135 H.D removed the download link for sert tuner after they got roasted by fines.. It will be out there somewhere.. If not. I will try and put an exe. File of software on my website as soon as I get chance.
A few years ago I bought a second hand Roadking Classic with a screaming eagle tuner pro. The bike was fitted with an SE Air Cleaner and V&H open exhaust. A few months ago I installed a standard exhaust, so I want to change te settings.. last week I bought the cables and downloaded the software on my laptop. Today I hooked up my Harley, but I can't connect the bike...even I switched on the iginition.. Can you help me solve that problem? Greetings from Belgium
Hi Frank, firstly, I do like the Roadking 👍. Fantastic bike. Is it the orange tuner (sert) or black tuner ( sept) you have. And when you download software and put in vcm number does it accept . If so. Then once plugged into bike software page open, then ignition on. Is that telling you (no vehicle connected or recognised).
@@ALCHEMOTO Thanks for your reply. I found the problem. Touring models have 2 plugs were the cable fit in: an accessery plug and the OBD plug. I took the wrong one. This morning I took the right one and it works!! I am learning ervery day!! Your video helped me a lot. By doing it by myself, I saved a lot of money!!!!
Great video! What kind of exhaust pipes and air cleaner do you have on your bike? I have a 2018 Sportster 48, hope this tuner will work with Vance & Hines slip-ons.
Cheers 👍. At the moment i am running arlen ness deep cut inverted series filter and cobra slip ons on standard headers, although soon to be changed to a 2 into 1 setup, tuner will work fine with V&H slip ons, just follow the same procedure for stage 1 , there will be more vlogs on the software aspect of tuning as soon as my new workshop is up and running . Thanks for subscribing 👍
@@ALCHEMOTO Thanks! Right now I have everything stock, so I assume you're talking about how V&H pipes would tine better with the S.E. tuner? I'm leaning toward S.E. tuner since it's a Harley product along with Vance & Hines slip-ons. I want great sound & performance, but with as little complications or risk as possible. I'm new to the Harley world!
@@69FOSTER to be honest, even the fp3 is a great tuner and supplied by harley now as an oem product, in fact it is tunable by mobile app with great product support, the sept tuner is laptop only but more in depth only if you know how to use it so dont be put off by alternatives. But buy whichever works for you. Most well known makes of cans will give you a benefit hp gain over stock and sound 100% better, so again, go with what you like, do your research and enjoy 😁👍
Is a Dyno buy hd a better option I would use tuner to monitor I guess with minor changes it should be okay or work but if you go from stage 1 to 4 just pay 300 for a Dyno set it and forget it.
Dyno tune would always be a better more precise option, but you can always use the same software with a dyno, H.D no longer give the software out as download so its getting harder for the orange box guys now. Personally, I would go dyno with a stage 4 and monitor figures with the sert tuner over time or just go fp3 route. 👍👍
I bought a SCE tuner 6 months ago as a new through a private seller in eb@y. I finally found the cables that were missing and when I start tuning the Bike, the following message appeared " This VCI has been married to a different ECM. It cannot be used to program this ECM".
Hi, unfortunately it sounds like the tuner has been plugged into another bike. Once its paired, it locks it out so it is specific to the bike. And should then be kept with bike when sold. I hear this happening quite often. If you can still get hold of seller, I would let them know with a picture of the message ans see if you can get refunded
🤣🤣👍. I have a les paul copy that holds a tune 🤔, for a week. Once your map is set up, it should and will stay in that tune until you add different intakes,exhausts, cams or other mods. Never had 1 map vary, on mine or others I have mapped . But even if it did for any other reason, your map will be stored on laptop (handy to put on a usb) for future use. 👍
Lots of us tune twice a year. Once in the spring and later about wintertime. After initial tuning each session you should always do one or more smart tunes to fine tune all the cells in the ECM to your riding habits.
The SERT tuner is for efi models so will be from those models up and not for carb. So if you had a bike fuel injected, these would be suitable although hard to obtain now, so most go for vance and hines fp3 tuner instead
Thanks 👍. And yes, you can but may need to alter fuelling in the graphs to get the most out of it, especially if you have excessive decel pop on the overun. If so, the last map I built not long ago is on the channel, although for a 2-1, it should give an idea what needs to be done 👍👍
@@kklaidrock5251 😁👍. No probs, hope it sorts it . Just a note that if running autotune after, it can knock off settings changed in map values, but if ok kn standard map then running autotune is fine 👍
You would specifically choose the map with cams on it, and then fine tune after loading the base map. Base map will make a huge difference anyway but modifying the data tables to suit will make another leap from the base map 👍
Hi Mate, the only problem is that they are usually matched to vcm it was originally programmed with , so not a multiple use item.. there was talk of harley being able to reflash unit but even so, you could probably buy another tuner like the fp3 for less. Personally that is what i would do 👍
My dad got one of these with his bike and he’s downloaded the software etc plugs it in and he gets to the tune my bike part and it comes up with a message saying Microsoft have encountered an error and needs to close down. Would you know what we are doing wrong or what we need to do next? We called Harley in glasgow and the fella said he didn’t have much experience as typically they are brought in with the bike and they do it within half hour. If you can give us advice or forward us in the direction of someone who can it would be much appreciated
Hi Vikki. Try checking software is up to date before he plugs into bike. Also, try a different usb port on laptop. Also, plug into bike and then switch ignition on , verify connection, leave for a minute before hitting tune my bike. Good luck. 👍. If all fails, uninstall and download again, It is probably just a glitch as the software is only downloaded on the matching of valid bike serial number 👍
The serial number is 17 digits long but it’s only letting us type in 10. It’s come up with a message saying the programme isn’t one that Microsoft allows 🙈 do you have any advice?
@@vikkinichols9111 sespt software is black box street tuner and sepst is for orange box race tuner. Very easy to get confused over right software. So depending on which colour tuner, make sure correct software installed first. If it comes up with a message from microsoft, it may ask you to allow program to be installed which you should accept, and then should allow install. Please check software version first. I will try my best to help if this doesnt succeed. Thanks
@@ALCHEMOTO when we get to the stage of available calibrations and even though his bike is switched on it doesn’t auto fill his details. The software is for the orange box that he has. Thanks for your help
@@vikkinichols9111 just go to top left hand box and there is a link to the maps in a folder, alternatively, manually fill in model, year etc for that particular bike. It may come up that map is not specific for that year, but if details are correct, then proceed. There are a few videos in my tuning section that explain more on this 👍
You download the software online, it is free, but then you register with serial number of your tuning box. Cables are purchased from any dealer or you can find online, but there are 2 types, 4 pin and 6 pin plug, depending on model year for bike. 👍
@@ALCHEMOTO Can you post a link on where to get the software? I'll be doing my stage 1 here soon and would like to do the basic map upload myself. Thanks
@@ALCHEMOTO ,Hi, few more questions. so you install some after market pipes and new air intake, then you tune the bike with the SE tuner? Or do you run the bike first, put a few miles on it. Come back and then tune?I was told do not run that engine without a tune with new pipes and intake, it will run lean cause damage. I was also told that if you change baffles, you should retune. Silly question, how does the ECM/tuner know you changed the baffles. Thx
@@rebelrobz Yes mate, you are right by that info given. You can change either intake or pipes without a tune, as tge small difference in fuel/air ratio adjustment wont cause concern, but change both and the ecm needs to be flashed. What it will do is run lean as requires more fuel to compensate for volume of intake, ecm doesnt know, and continues to supply same values and so will run hot . When you load new map through tuner, it is telling ecm/vcm by stage 1 map it has had those components changed. Fit/tune/ride is the rule 👍
You dont need specific air filter or exhausts, can be any high flow filter and any exhaust other than standard. Then, if you have the tuning box, and software downloaded, you can go ahead with the stage 1 map 👍
It wont make much difference if it was 2 into 1 vance and hines. You can still run it with same map anyway as the standard stage 1 map is not specific, only for air filter and exhaust mod. This is why it benefits from more specific tuning for your needs via the sept tuner. Run it and see how it performs. If there is a doubt or not as smooth as before, then its time to build a specific map, starting with air/fuel and decel if you are getting excessive popping. 👍
HD-41000018 part number for 6 pin later plug. There is an earlier 4 pin as well so need to check. Just search screamin eagle tuner cables. Most dealers will supply approx £40 uk pounds
There are 2 software variants. One for black box sept tuner and orange box sert tuner. Although I believe cannot download software from h.d site anymore. Check this first. Failing that, I would contact dealer . If I have install file for sert (orange race tuner) its possible I may be able to put a download option on my website when get time but check version first 👍
All harley with the tuner but they are linked to one bike once used . They are not used much now as the fp3 tuners are more desirable for the home user
Download the software free first and install, you need to put your tuners serial number in to complete install. Then follow instructions once plugged into bike 👍
Thanks for the quick response mate. Is this also like the V+H FuelPak whereby the device marries to one bike only or can it be used on multiple bikes? Have read some forums, some say yes, some say no.
@@reubenwebster2093 yes mate, one bike only. Reason being, the software logs to serial number when linked to laptop. You can buy the leads from any dealer but will need the correct ones for your bike, there is a 4 pin and a 6 pin connector, so be either one of those 👍
Find someone who can hack into it and start fresh, that’s what I’m doing ;) My cousin is giving me the tuner and I pay $170 AUD for the hack Doesn’t get much better than that ? Great video by the way Alchemist, thanks for the tutorial, in plain English, cheers.
Hi mate, just had the guts to buy the cables and have a go myself. HD dealer did the stage 1 for me under warranty original, but can’t believe how easy it is !! Did notice after their tune I lost my gear indicator on my 883 Iron, but can’t find any gear ratio info in the tune tables. Does your indicator still work?
Gear indicator loss is common on irons apparantly 🤔. I will try and look into it as be a good fix for a few people to know. Why it knocks it after a remap is strange though
My website wont put a download link on 🤔.. got to be a way somehow.... I will try again to get a link put somewhere 👍.. there are a couple of links still live on forums , so will have a look for them as well 👍
@@ALCHEMOTO ...thanks for your response bud....took All day to find....(super tuner 11.002.0000.exe,is the final version)....anyone stuck with this hardware that needs the software....deep dive on hd forums.....the only caveat is that it will disable after 30 days from no-useage...you still have to put in your code from the hardware to 'marry' it to your ride.If it doesnt work from no useage after 30 days...and it will tell you that the software hasnt been used for 30 days....you will need to uninstall it.....then re-download it....But.....your maps are still saved in the hardware.I hope this helps anyone stuck with this hardware....All is Not Lost.
Cheers Marc, good question that, on my later video for map building I could not use my software for a client with black box street pro tuner, so had to download (basically the same software) but to her vci. Until i have someone come to me with orange(race tuner) and plug in I wont know. I would say yes as cant imagine dealer having to keep reinstalling software for every bike 🤔. 👍
No, only if you notice the bike has gone out of tune or if you have replaced exhausts exc. Although leaving the map but riding with the lead plugged in for data might help to fine tune it slightly 👍👍
@@michaellydon7466 sometimes if plugged in too early it can throw a not recognised error. Exit program, unlug. Reboot software, plug back in when prompted. It should be locked to your vci so unusual if still not recognising after reboot 🤔
Open software first. It should say. No bike/ecm detected, then plug in and switch ignition on. Or is this what you are doing ?. Also make sure pins are clean on the plug. Unusual to freeze though. Might be worth redownloading software if problem persists. Other thing is there are 2 software types. Black box and orange box,but to be fair, will only proceed with correct ecm number.
Now it says an incorrect VCI type has been connected this thing is absolute trash back to the dealership it will go. I have spent 30 hours researching browsing forums and everything possible there is no possible way I have a functional VCI.
As mentioned before, sert software orange box/sept software black box. Open software/plug to bike/ignition on, i guess thats where it is saying error. Also, does the number on the tuner match your bikes ecm number ?. Was the tuner supplied with the bike, or bought after. ?
There are a couple of links on the forum sites still live I believe. I will try again to get install files on my laptop to exe file when i get chance. Then can be sent via email 👍
Its not really about the h.p, more about having to tune if swapping out exhaust and filter, you will realistically only gain 8-10 horses max and 15 with a specific built map and 2 into 1 pipes, any more you would be going into stage 2/3 with cams etc 👌
@@ALCHEMOTO got it. I swapped out the stock pipes on my 09 Dyna street Bob but kept the baffles in them . I put a K&N air filter in just because its re useable. I also took the ugly inboard piece of my air box off. Dont need that little air scoop thing. It runs fine never backfires. Didnt nee a re map. The only other thing I did was gear drive and cams. no more fear of those stupid cam chain chain tensioners . 09 is hydraulic but I still didnt trust it
@@bakedbeanz4510 😁. No worries, the vance FP3 tuner is better for the everyday person, screamin eagle tuner more difficult as apart from standard map uploads, the rest is all done manually 👍
@@bakedbeanz4510 yes mate, also, they have a good service for modding maps for you if standard not quite right, then upload via phone app. I would only advise people to go screamin eagle if they are good with modifying engine data themselves 👍. My video on loading standard map is easy for everyone, but if you watch the modifying map for the 2 into 1 exhaust its a lot more involved as building the map from scratch 👍
@@ALCHEMOTO yes, sportster 48 2018, i saw in your last video i have the same version of the software as you have... also i dont have warmup enrichment.. cranking fuel.. i dont know why.
Seems strange, i wouldnt think there is any difference in software, everything should be on left hand column under tune bike parameter, will have a look on my laptop later, there could be a page file without specific tables or not ticked, you also may have to use a drop down menu 🤔
Just thinking back on last comment, once you do a recorded data run on bike and download data, that should give all the parameters including rpm fuel/air and all others to compare against original map
@@ALCHEMOTO I learned that after I asked as I continued to watch your video 🤦🏻 I should have been patient and watched the full vid before asking questions lol Thank you though!!!
You used to be able to download it from H.D. they pulled it . Check on forums, search google. I will try and get the exe. File off mine and put on website when get chance 👍
@@majasso1888 Hi Marco, I tried to get a download link up and running on my website but wouldnt work. There is a couple of online links still working on forums. I will see if can get a link working again somewhere 👍
