Scrub Plane Edition - Lie Nielsen Vs. Stanley Comparison - What LN changed/upgraded and why

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This is No 1 in a series of videos I will be making comparing LN to Stanley. We will take a deep dive into the specs of the planes and discuss what LN upgraded and why.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:27 Overall
01:28 Weight
01:48 Iron Thickness
02:15 Caps
04:06 Irons Again :)
04:55 Bed Structure
08:38 Furniture While Assembled
09:18 Knobs
10:19 Totes
13:08 Announcement
13:40 Use Set Up
13:52 LN on Rough Cut
14:23 Funny Thing on Stanley
14:42 Stanley on Rough Cut
15:14 Board Comparison #1
15:37 Stanley on Non-Rough Cut
15:59 LN on Non-Rough Cut
16:13 Shaving Comparison
16:50 Across Grain
17:25 Thicker Shavings
17:56 Shaving Comparison
18:21 Summary/Outro

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21 июл 2024

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Комментарии : 17

@ronhau1542 9 месяцев назад

Keep do the LN stuff! 😉

@ronhau1542 9 месяцев назад

Great video!!!! TY!!!

@Heseblesens Год назад

Good video. 👍

@BatCaveCreations Год назад

Thank you!

@wintermutt9090 Год назад

Another excellent discussion of the pros and cons of these wonderful tools. I have a #40 from 1921-22. I've always thought Stanley got it just about perfect on that one, but now it seems LN has improved on the original somewhat. But not enough to convince me that the "upgrade" would be worth it. In terms of future videos, the comparison format you use is excellent. But even if you don't have a new-made plane (LN or Jorgensen) to compare to, I'd love to see you do a simple critical analysis of any number of the old classics, or maybe for example compare a sweetheart #4 to a #4-1/2 or a #604 or a #10-1/2. I also have a few of the beautiful old Sargent Autosets (#710, #714, etc) and a comparative review to the equivalent Stanley Baileys would be very interesting. Anyways, keep up the good work, I really enjoy your attention to all the little practical details. As a long time woodworker and tool user I'm still learning more about these tools. Thanks.

@BatCaveCreations Год назад

Thank you!! I do have a video in the works to look at about 30+ different no 4s :D that will take me a while and have to think of a good way to do it without making the video 5 hours long hahhaha

@psteed84 Месяц назад

Top video thank you 👏 That iron adjustment hammer is awesome! Where in the world did you get that!?

@BatCaveCreations Месяц назад

I think I got it off the Can I Have It Facebook group and thank you!!

@douglasanderson7260 Год назад

Good video. It is interesting to see the small tweaks Lie Nielson did on this plane. Is your comparison of the stanley planes going to be vintage or modern? And if vintage are you going to go down the line with them, eg 4, 4.5,5,5.5,6 etc... I sometimes look at 2 of the planes that I have a Lie Nielson that I got this year and a stanley I bought from a vintage tool shop. Both could be said to be made in the 20s. Just 1 is 100 years older. But still the same design from a person who lived in the 1800s. It is kind of nice that good designs last.

@BatCaveCreations Год назад

I don't have enough LN to go down the line through all the numbers but I will compare the ones I have and if I aquire more (borrow or buy) I'll deff add a video! It is amazing that one is so much older and the other is modern. Shows that stanley had it figured out. They unfortunately, strayed from some designs and imo was their downfall. I have not tried the current line of Stanley. That would probably be a good thing to add tho!

@tim_bbq1008 Год назад

I have the Stanley version and I notice the plane feels like it flexes while using it. I suspect the LN doesn't do that.

@BatCaveCreations Год назад

That's how I should have explained it! You are 100% correct the stanley is less supported and flexes. The LN does not. Thank you!!

@blayne2029 Год назад

Great timing. I've been considering getting a scrub plane. What are your thoughts in turning an old Stanley #4 into a scrub plane? Everyone focuses on the shavings more than the wood itself. Lie Nielsen looked smoother overall. I'm guessing I'd need to put a new blade into an old Stanley scrub plane, which would put it pretty close to on par with the Stanley price-wise. Joined your buyer/seller facebook group but am a little stumped on how it works. Are there instructions? Thanks!

@BatCaveCreations Год назад

I have know alot of ppl that take an old no 4 and convert it into a scrub plane with good results. Takes some modification and sometimes requires the mouth of the plane to be filed open more. I had a TayTools converted scrub plane and liked thay it got wider shavings but it also required alot more effort to push because those planes are heavier and your taking bigger cuts. Imo it works but isn't better than a true scrub plane that is dedicated to the task. I am not sure if buying a new scrub iron and putting it in a stanley will produce the same results as the LN. Also not sure if that will work because there isn't alot of room between the bed, cap and post. In the group if you go to the files section at the top you will see the rules and stuff listed there. There are videos and type outs that will help explain everything. You can also search #cihiwelcome in the group and they will pop up. Hope that helps!

@BatCaveCreations Год назад

I ran to the shop and checked to see if I could put the LN iron in the Stanley. The cap won't seat so the iron is to thick now... I can tighten it down slightly and it can take cuts but it make me nervous that something was gonna break because it just didnt feel strong so I stopped haha

@blayne2029 Год назад

@@BatCaveCreations Thanks! I might give it a try. If I'm going to pop for a LN I think I'd rather get a #4 and turn a cheaper plane into the scrub that I won't use as much. But I agree that the mouth might be an issue. Thanks!

@petrsidlo7614 8 месяцев назад

if you still havent bought anything, convert a wooden one into scrub. Its much easier, no mouth filing necessary and the light weight wont get you tired. @@blayne2029