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Scuba Diving emergency, out of air in a fast current! St. Lawrence River 

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The high pressure line came off of the SPG guage, causing a rapid loss of air. After 2 breaths no more air was coming into the regulator. The third breath was water! This occurred in a high current area between the wreck A E Vickery and the dive boat. An emergency ascent was the last resort due to the heavy traffic of small boats and sea faring ships. The buddy system works and so does being calm!
Man a lot of you must not read this part. No more air was coming out of primary regulator... about a minute later in the video I try to use the octo and it is airless too.

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@southaussielad2496
@southaussielad2496 5 лет назад
Dude, where's the secondary reg!!! Mines about 6ft or so and bright yellow, it stands out like dogs balls for this exact reason. Stay safe people👌
@jackmarshall3214
@jackmarshall3214 4 года назад
Wym? His own second reg didnt work cuz of the air loss and the buddy had an integrated secondary in his inflater hose
@Justins-Adventures
@Justins-Adventures 4 года назад
@@jackmarshall3214 he's asking about the buddies secondary. The buddy has a dual inflator/secondary
@jackmarshall3214
@jackmarshall3214 4 года назад
Justin thats what i said
@kimberlyfendt8282
@kimberlyfendt8282 3 года назад
I was taught to dive using my bright yellow reg. If my buddy is in trouble, it takes less time to grab out of my mouth and shove it in theirs. I know where my backup is, instead of someone who may be in a panic or medical emergency looking.
@cameronwalls9727
@cameronwalls9727 3 года назад
@@jackmarshall3214 your always supposed to have a secondary regulator for you dive buddy just in case
@kentac1911
@kentac1911 5 лет назад
Your dive buddy saved you for sure. They are a true buddy! I would dive with them anytime! They were calm and did not hesitate in donating you their air! Great buddy work!!
@charlie12590
@charlie12590 5 лет назад
They didn’t panic👍 and that’s number one ☝️ good job
@fabriziomonti8579
@fabriziomonti8579 5 лет назад
Actually they did panic a bit, look how fast the breath is😅 the important thing is that they handled it!
@frankcuba5231
@frankcuba5231 4 года назад
You think he DID a good job. . ? ? . . like nobody plan the trip. . neither brings an octopus.
@Engineer9736
@Engineer9736 5 месяцев назад
Can't really properly see what they're doing... seems like in the beginning the guy did get the primary of the guy next to him, and the donating guy took his (black colored) octopus. Not sure why they went buddy breathing after that, seems unnecessary risk. They should have started focusing on getting out ASAP (but with deco stops)
@raywickham682
@raywickham682 5 лет назад
Instructor here - if you're offering criticism, shut up. These guys probably aren't tech divers and they did what they should. They learned and lot from this and will more than likely change their configurations to improve it. However, they me the #1 rule - they came up alive!
@demitriosvekkf.z.7768
@demitriosvekkf.z.7768 5 лет назад
that is definitely the #1 rule yep
@thierryberthy1735
@thierryberthy1735 5 лет назад
You don't have to be a tec duver ti know the basic rules mister instructor
@braedengriffiths4249
@braedengriffiths4249 5 лет назад
Thierry Bertholino “The point he made” “Your head”
@dannysplace7
@dannysplace7 5 лет назад
@@braedengriffiths4249 His point's bullshit. This is a perfect case everyone can learn from and you do that by criticising it, criticism isn't a bad thing.
@ktman36
@ktman36 4 года назад
Just a question, can the console be disconnected from the 1st stage by a buddy? Would the stop the leak?
@serofu
@serofu 5 лет назад
Geez man. Glad you guys made it to the surface safe and sound. I haven’t seen buddy breathing like that in a while but it is a skill worth being trained in. Excellent teamwork and excellent communication. Looks like everybody was offering you their regs.
@Superduper666
@Superduper666 3 года назад
I like how that person in the beginning gave up their mouthpiece without second thought
@gameonyolo1
@gameonyolo1 3 года назад
No shit
@SpearingWithSlurpey
@SpearingWithSlurpey 3 года назад
@@gameonyolo1 ​ Its not the typical safe thing to do is give up your own then you're out of air. Supposed to give the octo and hold onto your buddy who has no air.
@30minutesLess
@30minutesLess 3 года назад
When someone hits me with the oh shit signal I give them my reg cause it’s already cleared and helps with panic. And once they get calm we swap.
@Imozart0341I
@Imozart0341I 3 года назад
@@SpearingWithSlurpey I hear but I’m the military we’re told to share and head back to the surface. Sometimes you suck in air more than you should. In heavy currents i practically drink my air supply
@ejstras
@ejstras 3 года назад
@@SpearingWithSlurpey A lot of advanced divers actually use a primary donate set up with a necklace octo, so you donate your primary regulator thats on a longer hose wrapped around you and then put your octo into your mouth which is on a shorter, easily accessible necklace. This allows you to do this much faster and emulates the more likely scenario in which a panicked diver rips the reg directly out of your mouth to use themselves.
@DieVorleserin2013
@DieVorleserin2013 3 года назад
Absolutely amazing - wonderful how each one cares for the other one.
@never2old-sd638
@never2old-sd638 7 лет назад
This video shows how inconvenient is the new system of not having a regular octopus and instead having a mouth piece in the bc hose. I am sticking to the old octopus system.
@HinMLee
@HinMLee 6 лет назад
I would agree. I had an inflator/regulator combo and decided that it was not going to be useful in case of out-of-air. Everyone understands a yellow octo hose/regulator.
@SuperBamagolfer
@SuperBamagolfer 6 лет назад
Complely agree
@penguin12902
@penguin12902 6 лет назад
I would be very uncomfortable giving up my primary 2nd stage in an emergency, and having to get myself onto my inflator while worrying about my buddy getting air at the same time. I would much rather have an octopus. Hand buddy the octo - he purges and breathes, we go up alive. Easy, and safe. Plus, the yellow hose makes it obvious which one to grab...If I'm in trouble, I don't even need my buddy's permission or assistance....just grab the yellow hose and purge.
@penguin12902
@penguin12902 5 лет назад
@@fanatictsx Not at all how I was trained...and again, as a new diver would make me very uncomfortable. I wouldn't want to take my reg out of my mouth in a high stress situation like that. Why complicate it? Hand buddy the yellow octo hose. Done.
@rickflippin1
@rickflippin1 5 лет назад
fanatictsx I agree to me it seems like a great set up with your Octo right at your neck on a bungee and enough room with the primary just in case needed I dig it gonna try it thanks
@rallzam
@rallzam 2 года назад
this is so freaking awesome, im so happy you guys did work so nice together, very great job guys! all of you rock.
@darrellgrainger212
@darrellgrainger212 5 лет назад
Someone just pointed this video out to me. I've seen people test hose failures. The high pressure hose is a pinhole opening. So the air loss is usually quite slow. The low pressure hose (regulator) is a much bigger hole. It was made to deliver a lot of air because that is what is needed on a regulator. I'm quite surprised that a rupture in the pressure gauge caused such rapid loss of air. I guess all high pressure hoses aren't made the same. Nice job staying calm. Not as pretty as practicing in the pool but if everyone walked away okay then it was a great recovery.
@DonFassbender
@DonFassbender 5 лет назад
Modern HP hoses do in fact have a pinhole opening because they need not deliver a large volume of air as you've stated. This is not by accident. I have vintage HP hoses that look more like a low pressure hose with a larger internal cavity for air to flow. Sometimes we learn from our mistakes. Perhaps the diver had this leak throughout the dive and it worsened during the dive creating the perceived emergency? With a constant leak he could have drained his supply quicker than his buddies and so upon ascent needed to share air. They appeared to have handled themselves efficiently enough and I was glad to see one donor continue to vent air while his regulator wasn't in his mouth. They did well all things considered. It appeared to me to *almost* be a practice run or training session. Well done.
@Levi-wk2hg
@Levi-wk2hg 5 лет назад
Absolutely correct. I suspect the SPG HP line had been leaking for much longer than the "2 breathes" the OP indicates. Which tells me someone isn't monitoring their air on the regular like they should be. The video linked below demonstrates the difference between a LP and an HP line rupture. The HP took 56 minutes(albeit at 3 ft) to deplete as opposed to 3 min for the LP line. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rLr179pej4Q.html This video also illustrates why a BC inflator/octo setup is dumb, and why a pony bottle or even the "spare air" would have been a nice option to have while the group got their shit organized.
@fishingsouthwestflorida1586
@fishingsouthwestflorida1586 8 лет назад
people should watch these kind of videos while learning to dive. scare them to be safe!
@LogansAdventures
@LogansAdventures 8 лет назад
+Luke Mancuso It would be good at really emphasizing the buddy system and how it works!
@rickflippin1
@rickflippin1 7 лет назад
Fishing SouthWest Florida exactly why i do
@DontSayItToMe
@DontSayItToMe 7 лет назад
What I'm doing, lol. How does this happen , am I seeing things right? Are they sharing a regulator?
@zerkergames9459
@zerkergames9459 6 лет назад
Fishing SouthWest Florida i do lots of diving and all this video made me thing was why didnt the other diver have a spare regulator
@miguelmartinez4888
@miguelmartinez4888 6 лет назад
buddy system work but I dive alone most of the time 99% of the time that why my buddy its a mini air bottle for emergency.
@trevorduncan9580
@trevorduncan9580 2 года назад
Great job all of you. Amazing to see how your buddies quickly assessed the situation and ensured you had air when needed. What a nightmare though when that regulator started free flowing like that! Can't believe you were able to stay calm.
@Sfbaytech
@Sfbaytech 6 лет назад
Good job staying calm and making due with the equipment they had available.
@jeffcarter1310
@jeffcarter1310 5 лет назад
I love that the guy out of air pulled the guy in the middle back to the line. That current was gonna take him for sure. Quick thinking under pressure!
@terriannm2683
@terriannm2683 16 дней назад
The current on the st Lawrence is ripping!!especially this year
@terriannm2683
@terriannm2683 16 дней назад
Seriously tho...why does no one have an Octo. What am I missing
@sharathpaps
@sharathpaps 8 лет назад
Excellent team work on the part of everyone involved, especially in not panicking. Congrats. I got a SpareAir for myself for exactly situations like this.
@MyScubasteve
@MyScubasteve 6 лет назад
no you have not? no diver carries a spare air?
@TheMrMarkW
@TheMrMarkW 6 лет назад
I dive a twinset with dual 1st stages and the ability to shutdown each side and isolate. Best case scenario would be a pony here in this situation. a spare air at 25m is 3 breaths. Not enough to get you anywhere near the surface without getting bent.
@MyScubasteve
@MyScubasteve 5 лет назад
@TheCuilinn No You are wrong, at the very minimum I carry a pony when single tank diving. When I dive a twin set I have two easily isolated sources of breathing mixture. I did a test at 30 m with a pony when I worked abroad as a DM. From 30m a 3 lt pony will only just and I mean just get you to the surface at 18m per min and that is without taking into account stress factor and a higher ROB and in warm water! Thats when I went tech. I carry a 7lt stage now for anything over 30m. Previously as a DM for the busiest cert centre in the world I saw loads of arrogant, stupid people. I remember saving one guy who confident and arrogant he was bounded over to me with a zero contents gauge at 30 m. I was not HIS DM BTW. Spare air's are for life guards plain and simple.
@MyScubasteve
@MyScubasteve 5 лет назад
@TheCuilinn Thats ok you re a wanker anyway.
@MyScubasteve
@MyScubasteve 5 лет назад
@TheCuilinn well because I had to carry out an inwater rescue for one guy who died because he was a stupid as you are? As you are so clever what is the weight difference between salt and fresh and how would that effect absolute pressure? or raising an item from depth?
@DollhouseTutorials
@DollhouseTutorials 5 лет назад
I have to say as a diver when you are under water things happen super fast and you only have a split second to decide what to do. You can't judge them because this was not your experience, this was theirs and they all survived. I'm sure they will learn from this experience and I am sure this experience scared the bageebeezzz out of them. ●DON'T JUDGE JUST BE THANKFUL THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE TRAINED TO DO STAYED CLOSE WHILE DIVINGE AND SHARED AIR●
@Scooopdog
@Scooopdog 5 лет назад
Laurie Heisler that’s fair enough but what I seen here was a bad choice of equipment by others. The standard setup especially in recreational diving shouldn’t be just for yourself, I think they done well under pressure if that safety line had have given way I’d say we’d be reading a different story.
@palipalie
@palipalie 5 лет назад
You always have time to think or take it
@mcpower116_lI
@mcpower116_lI 8 лет назад
Buddy system works nicely. Congrats. This is very important video for who don't mind the buddy system. Safety is the most important thing.
@Engineer9736
@Engineer9736 5 месяцев назад
Someone who followed any diving course will know that they need a buddy and an octopus (alternative air supply). Someone who has not followed a diving course should not be diving.
@jayhome2715
@jayhome2715 5 лет назад
Not having a proper 36" bright yellow octopus under your arm, ready at your chest to rip away and give to a buddy is irresponsible in my opinion. Another good video on proving why having a pony bottle on you is valuable!!! Knowing that you are in a strong current with anchor ropes on site, it makes sense having a 2' rope with 2 caribiners on each end equipped with you. When you looked at your SPG it was already reading practically 0. You were lucky you even noticed it at all with a couple of seconds of air left that essentially were precious seconds to grab a buddy reg! Truly amazing! Just imagine if that was at 60 or 100' and your closest buddy was 15' away!!!
@blakestampley6041
@blakestampley6041 5 лет назад
Know your gear and know your buddies comfort levels!! Only Rescue Diver certification level here but I was fortunate enough to learn from Naval dive officers while active duty. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
@AG-di5uj
@AG-di5uj 4 года назад
I just ran out of last week but I knew it was coming . Thankfully my buddy was there for me and we were able to managed safely but it is truly the worse feeling I have experienced. This guys made it alive and it what counts . I will keep my bright yellow octopus. Check ur air every 3 mins- seems this guy had a big leak
@TheMrMarkW
@TheMrMarkW 6 лет назад
You did amazingly well. Calm under pressure. And failures of HP gauges are more common than people know - they still have an o-ring in which can fail.
@alexanderhay5500
@alexanderhay5500 7 лет назад
This is one reason why my recreational kit is setup just like my tech kit....I use a 7ft hose and a short hose on a necklace....this would have come in handy for the troubled diver.
@alisongrundy9977
@alisongrundy9977 6 лет назад
Alexander Hay spot on
@chipperdrewski
@chipperdrewski 5 лет назад
Best possible setup
@edmundsisino2285
@edmundsisino2285 5 лет назад
Alexander Hay stay within the rule of thirds. Configuration can only get you so far. I dive long hose on a single as well, btw.
@dsanti4069
@dsanti4069 6 лет назад
The buddy who helped the Out of air diver had a safe second BC combo system . He was loaning the OOA diver his primary reg . It got chaotic with the 3rd buddy tried to offer his traditional octupus. Instead of adding more confusion they should of kept it simple and let the original buddy continue to provide secondary air
@seskipper806
@seskipper806 5 лет назад
That's what I was thinking. Everyone survived though, so it was a complete success. I think they learned something and so can we by watching these types of videos. Maybe the lesson to be learned here is that if everyone is breathing, focus on getting to the surface.
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 5 лет назад
I see I made the right choice to go with a sidemount setup with long hose. It’s nice to have redundancy and be able to feather my valve. The long hose is definitely easier than this mess of having the octopus integrated with the inflator. Thanks for sharing this vid. Always educational to see.
@MarcinEsperanto
@MarcinEsperanto 8 лет назад
Good video! I think your buddy's second was free flowing because of the current which I see was quite strong and might push the diaphragm. Good to see all ended up ok. Safe diving!
@wesniper
@wesniper 8 лет назад
Dude you guys don't carry octopus!
@divingquokka
@divingquokka 7 лет назад
Are you blind? He gets his buddy's octopus (after first taking his regular). His own octopus would be useless because of the pressure loss in the system.
@austinbowles2103
@austinbowles2103 7 лет назад
Waseem Mattar like the guy infront could not find it at first saw it im the bwck floating around
@chookchack
@chookchack 7 лет назад
the buddy is using a octo integrated inflator, as you can see he gave his primary 2nd stage to his buddy then used his inflator as octo. the second guy has an octo but wrong hose color, should have a bright yellow hose. im intrigued why they kept on kicking even though they are holding on a rope, you're just consuming more air. Nice buddy breath though.
@HinMLee
@HinMLee 6 лет назад
His HP is leaking, not his second stage.
@HinMLee
@HinMLee 6 лет назад
The buddy is using a integrated inflator/regulator and that hose is normally black. I have not seen a yellow inflator hose for sale yet so maybe someone ought to make one.
@TheMuhaAdventures
@TheMuhaAdventures 6 лет назад
Anything can happen, when I dive with my girlfriend and kids I’m always on them to check their gauges!! So important. This team of divers did a good job ! Getting to the surface and sharing air
@InfiniteBlue_
@InfiniteBlue_ 5 лет назад
Imagine how this could have ended without the rope.... Good Teamwork guys!
@BihansGMVs
@BihansGMVs 5 лет назад
I’m a diver and love watching videos like this. What they did right what they did wrong how to deal with the situation next time etc. I refuse to dive with anyone who I don’t feel comfortable with and they gotta have a octopus 😂
@ereynoldful3974
@ereynoldful3974 5 лет назад
As Jill Heinerth says, don't dive with someone that's FEAR-LESS. prep for every single thing that can go wrong. And yeah, a lot of videos everyone has an opinion. I mostly learn from RU-vid videos that there are a lot of "dive Instructors" 🙄 these days. I see a lot of vacation divers being weighed down too much.
@davidoski
@davidoski 4 года назад
Use always too second stages, one separate from the other, and the emergency one with extra centimeters.... This is a crazy video and lucky you for handle the situation, hope for the next you learnt how to do it faster!
@chrisgreenwood271
@chrisgreenwood271 6 лет назад
I know nothing about diving, but you guys managed to stay calm job well done.
@thegamerboneless2864
@thegamerboneless2864 2 года назад
O man this was rough to watch, I’m very glad you guys made it out. Way to improvise.
@tal7960
@tal7960 5 лет назад
This is why is it important to practice out of air drills with buddies
@zacharmy2011
@zacharmy2011 6 лет назад
These guys have nerves of steel good job
@luxlifecoaching
@luxlifecoaching 5 лет назад
I've done that dive, and made the mistake of letting go, That current is unreal (and I'm an experienced diver) but well done. Unless you've been in those waters, it's hard to understand the pressure trying to manouver with that current. I for one would probably not done as well.
@dime275
@dime275 5 лет назад
I love the Vickery. No need to use the rope coming back. Simply leave the bow of the ship, hit the wall and slowly ascend while following the rope the whole way. I only need the rope when up and over the wall in about 30 feet of water near the big basket.
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 5 лет назад
scot shanley No need to be condescending. She already recognizes she would’ve performed worse. Hopefully that’ll lead her to take more training and do OOA drills during regular diving. In the meantime these divers made some big mistakes but also did plenty of things right and succeeded to reach the surface relatively safely. Lots of things they could’ve done better obviously.
@la5150hi-lophoto
@la5150hi-lophoto 6 лет назад
You better buy that buddy a beer:)
@jjoaocostalima
@jjoaocostalima 3 года назад
I want to slap the diver. Taking others oxigen like its mine ... Punxh him.
@samuelbadger4371
@samuelbadger4371 3 года назад
@@jjoaocostalima he would’ve died...?
@jjoaocostalima
@jjoaocostalima 3 года назад
@@samuelbadger4371 so would the other?? He must stay calm and wait for his turn...
@boldtravelerph5072
@boldtravelerph5072 5 лет назад
Its stressful situation but managed to get into surface... Im glad no one hurt.. Double check your gears before jumping into the water guys
@mike2652
@mike2652 4 года назад
Thank goodness everyone was close by. Things like this can end tragically if you panic.
@IJ_uk
@IJ_uk 8 лет назад
it's good to see the comments here. I've been looking at alot of diving incidents on RU-vid and out of the 10 or so I've looked at this seems to be the only one where the the divers seem to do things correctly. Other videos seems to be inexperienced and stupidity. I'm currently setting up a new recreational kit and I'm using a long hose configuration as I feel there is a significant benefit. I'm also removing all hose protectors which you get on the ends so it's possible to fully check for damage. (I'm not suggesting poorly maintained equipment in your video though). thanks again for your feedback on this dive.
@Hartleymolly
@Hartleymolly 2 года назад
I don’t know what happened, but i’am glad they are alive my God
@obliviousdude9437
@obliviousdude9437 5 лет назад
This looked fine at first. Nothing wrong with the integrated octo, at least at first. Out of air diver signals, second diver hands him his primary, and starts breathing from the integrated octo. But then at some point somebody is actually buddy breathing with the out of air diver. WTH is that about?
@newaysss
@newaysss 5 лет назад
i also thought the same..why did they change and started buddy breathing if everybody already had a reg lol just end the dive as is.. maybe more info for the viewers
@paakss
@paakss 8 лет назад
dude that is a friend you have there perfect team work!
@macguyification
@macguyification 5 лет назад
Some of these guys need their certs revoked if we’re being honest.
@lisakn27
@lisakn27 4 года назад
Wasn't his fault..it was equipment failure.
@twayne4608
@twayne4608 4 года назад
Read description. Divers handled this situation so well 10/10.
@jonathanbradley4896
@jonathanbradley4896 4 года назад
They did fine, how would you have handled a high pressure hose/spg leak any better?
@AuburnAquanaut
@AuburnAquanaut 6 лет назад
I live fairly close to the St.Lawrence and have dove there a few times. The current can be crazy at times, nice job staying calm.
@nachodelvallee
@nachodelvallee 6 лет назад
0:15 he shake it just in case it is stuck lmao
@lizzylizzy7550
@lizzylizzy7550 6 лет назад
whoaaaaaa good job on not panicking and the teamwork!
@denniswilcox6658
@denniswilcox6658 6 лет назад
I used to dive that wreck back in the late 70's early 80's with 2 other divers and my wife. The shallow part of that wreck has extremely fast current as I can attest to. Matter of fact the deepest dive I ever made in the St. Lawrence was off the wreck with one of the guys I used to dive with. We were recovering some stuff from the bottom in 195'. This the wreck just south of the AlexBay bridge or actually west I guess it would be. You can actually swim under it on the stern. I had a similar situation on the Keystorm up river a few miles when certifying an open water class. We carried all manner of safety gear though, I had a 30 cu.ft. bail out on my main tank with separate regulator and also a BC with a bottle fill device that could be used in a dire emergency for breathing if one had to. I look back on it on some of the dives we did back then and being much older now I am amazed we did what we did! Great fun though. Stayed at Kewaaden State Park and kept our boat up there outfitted for diving there all year.
@bryanlee1887
@bryanlee1887 5 лет назад
A longhose configuration would have been perfect for this kind of situation...
@olivermatich2818
@olivermatich2818 5 лет назад
Bryan Lee forreal. This video makes me want to switch to the hogarthian hose setup a lot.
@marianobarrionorte
@marianobarrionorte 5 лет назад
Great Job, guys!!!
@ChiII_BiII
@ChiII_BiII Год назад
Only thing I would prefer to see is one diver stepping in to be the air donor before the ascent starts. The divers are all so close to each other and fiddling with gear while also trying to climb the line. One step at a time, secure the diver, provide air, make sure they are okay, and start the ascent. Easy to say here from the couch. Just glad it ended okay.
@RichardSlater
@RichardSlater 4 года назад
Calmness saved lives that day
@indianmarine2313
@indianmarine2313 3 года назад
No panic, team work, Technics.... Good job guys!
@pjmvdbroek
@pjmvdbroek 8 лет назад
Consider using a long hose (7ft) on your primary reg, because the out of gas diver has more room to manouver
@NZBloodshoT
@NZBloodshoT 7 лет назад
Entanglement?
@pjmvdbroek
@pjmvdbroek 7 лет назад
In a Hoghartian configuration hoses run close to your body, so entanglement is not an issue
@NZBloodshoT
@NZBloodshoT 7 лет назад
Good to know. I did have to search up what a Hoghartian configuration it seems like it would a good set up I think Id have to try it first to put my mind at ease though, Ive been entangled before and its always in the back of my mind now.
@HinMLee
@HinMLee 6 лет назад
I got a long hose to alleviate jaw stress and I have not regretted it.
@piter85hh
@piter85hh 8 лет назад
Great team work
@boris2342
@boris2342 2 года назад
this is why we check our equipment before every dive
@Magdroq
@Magdroq 5 лет назад
Good job they stayed together and managed to get up safely. Imo there was some panic when he couldt find an octopus. When there was an octopus available this would have been so much easier and less stressful.
@k956upg
@k956upg 2 года назад
I keep my main on a longer hose as that’s the one people grab..my octopus is equally expensive apecs & hangs round my neck by my chest in yellow so I can find it in pitch black super easy. Having twins with isolatable sides then 2 gauges 2 inflators & one reg each side with a mixer valve helps too.
@justriley9157
@justriley9157 2 года назад
Best video ever great dinner you can have after
@forgot_my_name_again
@forgot_my_name_again 5 лет назад
No air as result of a high pressure port leak is rare. It can take over 30 minutes for your tank to be empty. Yes ok this is at the end of a dive with already low air. One thing I know for sure, I will never dive with someone who only has a secondary reg on their inflator hose.
@DiscoveryDiversTokyo
@DiscoveryDiversTokyo 3 года назад
This was my thought, too...also wondering the reason for water in the regs...
@BigJoe4189
@BigJoe4189 5 лет назад
Good drill 👍🏼 don’t panic, the only way to survive
@bloudiving5643
@bloudiving5643 5 лет назад
really, you just kidding
@BigJoe4189
@BigJoe4189 5 лет назад
Blou Diving If you a diver , one thing that will keeps you alive is not to panic, act quick. It’s one thing he is not checking his gauge, I check mine every 5mins.
@romanzalyautdinov
@romanzalyautdinov 5 лет назад
Очень эмоциональное видео, сам как будто это пережил. Ныряю часто один, очень отрезвляет
@gdolloway
@gdolloway 3 года назад
This looks like maybe the Vickey? I hope they did better training after that. And dumped that integrated air. Yes everyone is alive and made it is the good part. But the cluster that was there shows the lack of training. Glad you’re all ok, hope you furthered your education.
@dianebays5484
@dianebays5484 4 года назад
And that, my friends, is why you always have a dive partner.
@mkmorg484
@mkmorg484 5 лет назад
This is why I have a pony rig ALWAYS! I’ll gladly take the little weight of a 20cf to be self sufficient when doubles aren’t being used.
@IJ_uk
@IJ_uk 8 лет назад
If the SPG fails you can still have a surprising long time till it runs out of air due to the diameter of the hole is very small.
@KaironReaps
@KaironReaps 8 лет назад
By the big size of the bubbles, you can tell that air loss was significant.
@IJ_uk
@IJ_uk 8 лет назад
+Reaper yes, but nowhere near the amount of a second stage failure.
@LogansAdventures
@LogansAdventures 8 лет назад
I understand that however when I signaled my buddy I couldn't suck anymore air through the regulator, it got hard to pull then water managed to come through it. No idea how or why the diaphragm let that happen
@KaironReaps
@KaironReaps 8 лет назад
+ScubaLogan do you servising your reg every year?
@LogansAdventures
@LogansAdventures 8 лет назад
Yup! It was brand new the summer before, used it about 3 times then. Had it in for it's first servicing 2 months before this happened. Used it one time prior on a virgin shipwreck, 35 minutes total. Aqua Lung Legend LX regulator, first stage and octopus. Not sure on the gauge and the computer off hand.
@danmarelli551
@danmarelli551 6 лет назад
One buddy has a safe second/octopus and one doesn't, I thought the training industry had standardized this. But when you take a 2-day or 2-weekend scuba training course anything is possible. The failure was either a result of the HP hose separating from the fitting or the HP fitting becoming disconnected from the gauge (the latter is unlikely because the HP fitting would have had to thread itself off the gauge and the diver would have noticed leaking from the console for a while). This potential failure would have been caught by inspection and oring replacement during annual service. Thye did pretty good on air sharing except I don't understand why the diver is sharing with multiple divers, one who is unequipped to help their buddy.
@christopherthomas8722
@christopherthomas8722 Год назад
Am I the only one who noticed how the donate always ended up being the primary after the diver fiddles for a brief second trying to find the octo? Doesn’t this just reinforce primary donates philosophy?
@OutdoorSurThrival
@OutdoorSurThrival 5 лет назад
Great buddy/team work!
@dang2651
@dang2651 3 года назад
Glad everyone was safe.
@pn9358
@pn9358 5 лет назад
I would never dive without a buddy with an octo on his rig.
@JackoAgun
@JackoAgun 4 года назад
moral velues; do not panic! stay calm & relax. then, go to the surface slowly.
@VetInTheWater
@VetInTheWater 8 лет назад
Really good video! I'm starting the Divemaster course and have just been looking around for videos of divers in emergency situations, just to get a sense of what could happen and how the poeple reacted in those situations. This is the best one! You did everything right and it's very educational, shows the importance of the buddy system and always remaining calm! What happened at mid-video though? It looked like your uddy started drifting/ascending?
@AlexPoutineVids
@AlexPoutineVids 5 лет назад
Yeah, this was a comedy of errors. Not at all correct procedures, and I'm hoping that during your dmt they teach you why.
@timonkittlaus3120
@timonkittlaus3120 2 года назад
okay yes they made some errors but we weren't in the situation so I find it hard to judge here. in the end it worked out...
@tomwhent8073
@tomwhent8073 5 лет назад
Lots of debate about configuration it seems. At the rec/sport diving level, students are not taught the 7ft long hose. It's not even mentioned. The fact is that most sport diving kit is poorly configured at best. This makes it easy on the rental operator but not necessarily good for the diver. Some operators like to call this 'techie crap' or the like. The fact is these people are very ignorant / small-minded and don't know any better. Its what they learned years ago and they are stuck in the Cousteau days. I have put a long hose / necklace reg on a new diver with no issues. It is easy and makes sense if you know why you are doing it. I try to explain the benefits of such a system, particularly when using an h valve for redundancy. Some sport diving agencies or local shops try to configure people with gear that is ill-suited for currents and looks like a medusa entanglement hazard, not to mention grossly over weighted. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that sport diving can benefit from some of the concepts used in tech/DIR/Hogarthian diving because they are safer and more streamlined. The long hose is one such item. When paired properly with an H valve it becomes much safer when malfunctions occur. Ditching the jacket BCD in favor of a harness is another. If you are serious about diving, take time to look at these things with an open mind. Streamline your gear and set it up clean and simple. Practice using your safety systems in real life. You will be glad you did.
@benz110hr
@benz110hr 3 года назад
Very good buddy
@agent.4715
@agent.4715 4 года назад
Why did the first guy not have an alternate air source? And why did they pannic so much, it’s easy to solve you just need to relax and tell Your buddy out of air so he can give you his alternate air source? It’s a part of the cert course
@Richard1976
@Richard1976 8 лет назад
what a mess
@rschmidtschmidt6810
@rschmidtschmidt6810 4 года назад
@Serhat Tuncer I can agree at least the reacted better than most vids on the int.
@scubamarilu
@scubamarilu 3 года назад
Some divers don't know the word: maintenance
@mahmoudalsayed1138
@mahmoudalsayed1138 2 месяца назад
That’s what scares me the most about scuba diving
@cyrilbarrett4068
@cyrilbarrett4068 5 лет назад
What I see here is confusion and no octopus! If my dive buddy has no octopus I will not dive.
@Justins-Adventures
@Justins-Adventures 4 года назад
His buddy has an integrated inflator/octi instead of the traditional octi
@I_am16
@I_am16 4 года назад
Oxygen: "I'm out this bitch bye!"
@jimmytan1251
@jimmytan1251 6 лет назад
Are you guys buddy breathing? why don't you have an octopus? this shoudl be standard gears.
@calumaitchison
@calumaitchison 6 лет назад
Sharing air that way probably saves some air for them. if 2 breathe of one tank together probably use more....my dive practice is not recomended for that type of shared ascent. Here in uk, most divers use a main 12/15ltr tank with a seperate 3ltr tank.
@jamesgriffiths3706
@jamesgriffiths3706 5 лет назад
Completely agree, would never dive without an octopus
@timpage5021
@timpage5021 5 лет назад
You must be dense. 1st the octopus would be useless because of the pressure loss from initial leak. 2nd the buddy gave him his reg 3rd the other buddy did give him his octopus. They all had octopus.
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 5 лет назад
Tim Page True, but halfway through they were in fact buddy breathing. Looks like that was because the OOA diver had trouble locating the octopus of the bottom-most diver so he signaled out of air again and they shared the main reg.
@fabryvr59
@fabryvr59 7 лет назад
molto bravo il compagno!
@pandabear870
@pandabear870 8 лет назад
Wow! Good job staying calm! This is a perfect example as to why I have a 19cf pony bottle. What Happened to your other buddies secondary?
@LogansAdventures
@LogansAdventures 8 лет назад
+bryce andrade I am very not sure. I know one of his secondaries was on a long hose and probably got knocked out when all of this was happening.
@pandabear870
@pandabear870 8 лет назад
+ScubaLogan. Either way good comunication between you guys. Thats for sure.
@MrBat000
@MrBat000 3 года назад
if they ran out of air, than why are they still at the bottom of the sea? None attempting to surface...it doesnt matter if there is a current thats pulling you.
@HolyApplebutter
@HolyApplebutter 5 лет назад
Back in Okinawa, I'd always see Japanese divers going alone. I don't know if it's a cultural thing or just coincidence, but I couldn't imagine going out diving without a buddy. Seems like you'd just be asking for trouble. If that happened to someone alone and unprepared they'd be done for. Especially considering that you're diving in the ocean here, not just a river.
@ereynoldful3974
@ereynoldful3974 5 лет назад
Same here in North Florida. I dive the springs and also worked at Madison blue spring state park and would see Japanese divers from time to time going alone and having a friend sitting on the deck waiting or walking around. At peacock there's no ops ranger to check in so you just sign a book. Very dangerous to go into P1 or Orange Grove sink without a buddy
@jalspach9215
@jalspach9215 3 года назад
It may sound odd but you'd be surprised how many competent solos are out there. I am one. I've been a pro for 40 years - SAR/Safety/Research/Hunting (most of it at night) etc.. CA Abalone & Urchin divers have worked solo for their whole careers. A close Japanese friend is a lobster diver on Izu Oshima Island. He's been working alone for 30 years. Many U/W Photographers as well. We're working. We are not babysitters. We know the risks & prepare for them. And almost all that work is done safely at free ascent depths anyway. The caveat being I wholeheartedly advocate for the buddy system in recreational diving. And while I never butt heads & team up willingly on rec dives/tours, if the opportunity permits, then it's me n' the fish. DO NOT EVER attempt this unless you unquestionably have your shit together, are properly trained & maintain a healthy respect at all times for the element/conditions you're entering.
@frankcuba5231
@frankcuba5231 4 года назад
If you turn the hose, the air stops. . that gives you a few minutes to go up. . and if someone will bring you an octopus. . it would be wonderful. . where they obtained the certification. ?
@frankie7348
@frankie7348 7 лет назад
Brilliant teamwork
@saketgokhale4291
@saketgokhale4291 4 года назад
Recently about a month ago, I was at 30 meters with just 10 bars left.. Had gone down to 48.3 meters as there was a Thresher Shark just a few meters away from me. Was there at that depth for some time and when I checked at the oxygen left, it was just 60 bars left at 48 meters.. Fortunately there was a dive guide with me so we started coming up and at 30 meters I had just 10 bars left so had to use the octopus of the guide. Decompression time was 14-17 minutes.. Crazy! However the guide had enough air left and we made the safety stops and came up.
@UWfalcin
@UWfalcin 4 года назад
You better keep checking that air dude! Especially at those depths, god damn
@saketgokhale4291
@saketgokhale4291 4 года назад
@@UWfalcin :-)
@jalspach9215
@jalspach9215 3 года назад
You said "oxygen". You're not a diver.
@saketgokhale4291
@saketgokhale4291 3 года назад
@@jalspach9215 I realized that mistake immediately after I wrote it but was too lazy to correct it 😛😃
@claeslindgren2704
@claeslindgren2704 2 года назад
Pro tip. GET A FUCKING BAIL OUT SYSTEM!!! Also, I hope you bought your dive buddies a fucking round of beer after that
@snandlal2766
@snandlal2766 2 года назад
Where is the buddy's second stage regulator octopus? Why are they buddy breathing?
@OrenNoah
@OrenNoah 4 года назад
Glad no one got hurt (or dead) and good job not going into full-on panic, but the equipment choices these divers made were “suboptimal” to say the least. This problem would have been a trivial inconvenience had one of the other divers been equipped with a primary reg on a long hose. Passing off the main reg is quick and easy, as is the switch to the bungled secondary reg. Then, the two divers would have plenty of space to sort out whatever needs to be sorted out and don’t need to be in each others’ faces.
@o.antonio
@o.antonio 5 лет назад
Thank you for sharing this, but i don't understand, the buddy didn't had an octopus and used the hose?!
@gabewilliam1780
@gabewilliam1780 7 лет назад
Dude I like the one guys computer,I think it's an Aeris Atmos AI like mine😂👍🏼
@elisaq8956
@elisaq8956 3 года назад
Awesome well done
@mishkaulitkin9476
@mishkaulitkin9476 Месяц назад
Just make sure your dive buddy has yellow "buy out" secondary octo for you next time.
@MichaelAnsaldiJr
@MichaelAnsaldiJr 5 лет назад
I'm an instructor. Let me tell you unless you train for this situation regularly its all new. They did a good job but from what I could tell is they pushed the limits of the air supply. the top guy was on 0 when he discovered his hose was leaking. The diver next to him realized he needed to switch to his air2 and did it fast now all should be good however diver 3 decides to get in the mix, use my octo why? Diver 2 lost the line and almost went on a drift gets back on the line and is out of air so now diver 3 is in the middle giving air to 1 and 2. Diver 4 is still doing nothing. The were 3 minutes from the end of the dive if diver 3 would have stayed they would of all been good for the remaining time. 2 divers running out of air on a dive is dangerous even with no currant. We train 1/2 with air2 and 1/2 with octos, I carry both at checkouts. But in the pool and at checkouts I do not allow my students to power inflate they all learn oral and are better for it. I would not dive with any of these guys they all took a big chance doing a safety stop with a few hundred pounds is dumb.
@jwj500
@jwj500 6 лет назад
Well done guys!
@LucasHxnt
@LucasHxnt 5 лет назад
That's why I freedive. Once you learn to hold your breathe for up to 3 minutes there is no need for a tank, and if something goes wrong it's my fault. Not a machines.
@andre-dx4yw
@andre-dx4yw 3 года назад
i booked a dive once i didnt know the buddy,it was a drift dive, the moment we got down he just fucked off, i tell you dive with people you trust and have experience with, yer life depends on it, i had a pony bottle so had redundancy and i was fine but it worries me how many videos on you tube of people not sticking with there buddy and not understanding signals
@karendebritt7890
@karendebritt7890 2 месяца назад
I thought everyone carries a spare regulator? Im confused 🤔
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