@@11icelordAccording to the songwriter Ody did plan on sacrificing him. In the concept animatic (which Jorge usually sends the main thematics he wants the animators to focus on) during one of his live streams. Eury specifically drops the torch in panic as he realizes the torches are the targets, somebody else picks up the torch and before Eury can warn them of the danger that crewmate is eaten. That said, the idea that Eury was originally chosen as a sacrifice was the intent. :’D
Man. I can't blame either side. I get he's mad that he opened the bag. But of course once his crew puts it together that ody just choice to sacrifice 6 men theyd lose their faith in him, who knows how many more sacrifices he will make to get home. Of course killing the cattle and opening the bag were both awful choices too....
@@elski5958 So was telling the Cyclops his name (or not killing him). In Epic, many characters make mistakes they couldn’t truly foresee the consequences to, with some nuanced exceptions like the bag (which I think is why Eury’s apology is the first REAL apology we actually hear in the whole musical imo, he understood that even if he didn’t truly understand the gravity of his choice, he made a betrayal that cost many of the crew their lives). That said it becomes this tipping scale of which do you interpret to be worse: The unintentional chained reaction of killing over 500 of your crew (and technically hiding the fact it was your fault over the course of roughly two years) or the intentional killing of 6 of the now drastically reduced crew in exchange for your own freedoms and goals.
And I searched for that part. Thank you for pointing it out. I almost got a little disappointed not having it in here when it was in the official livestream. But I'm dumb and too slow to catch up 🤦🏼♀️🌶🫡
It would have been better if he had died here. Odysseus was literally giving him an honorable death, which is very fucking important in Greek Culture. The way he died later condemned his soul to punishment in Hades, as someone who personally offended the gods and died by divine intervention.
@@WitchingofSpace i think he was hoping he wouldn't HAVE to because Ody beleives without Eurlyocous none of the other crew members would really stand against him
@@alakazamlover4908 I don't think he honestly considered anyone WOULD stand against him. It's not covered in Epic specifically, but I can't imagine he went off to war and said, IN ADVANCE, 'I will bring everyone home alive'. He was naive, sure, but not stupid. To Odysseus's mind, this is, to some extent, him doing what he was expected to do before ever leaving Ithica: Doing whatever it takes to bring as many men home alive as he possibly can. Nobody really expected him to go to war and have ZERO people die, even if that is exactly what happened in Troy. They expected losses, both the people at home and the people that followed him to war. At this point, Ody has managed the impossible repeatedly, pulling victory after victory in ways that make little to no sense to his men, which leads to their faith in him, especially after the wind bag mistake. They automatically expect him to do the same, and the Siren thing JUST showed that their faith was, to them, deserved. That leads to Ody being a victim of his own success, they expect victories against anything short of Poseidon showing back up, so when Ody is in a lose-lose scenario... They expect him to win anyways. In this case, they've only got one path home, so it's either everyone dies, or six men die and he (at the time of doing this) bring the rest back home to their families. He takes the smaller hit, makes the better choice for his duties and his men overall... But it's still a loss to folks who have only ever lost to a GOD, and they can't handle it.
@@nssheepster can i get a TLDR? also in "keep your friends close" he seemed quite proud to say "I toke men to war and none of them died there" so he went to war EXPECTING to lose men but DIDNT and the journey home just screwed him
@@alakazamlover4908 TLDR most of Odysseus' men post wind bag incident had nearly fanatical faith and trust in him after he repeatedly demonstrated the ability to seize victory from the jaws of defeat, so when it came to this choice, Scylla who always takes six men, or Charybdis who could possibly be skirted but if awoken would assuredly take them all, the crew saw Odysseus choose Scylla, thinking he may have some secret way to save everyone again, not knowing he fully intended to surrender six of his men to earn passage.
in the original odyssey, Scylla always takes six lives and Odysseus knows this fact, in this he has six people light torches so scylla knows who is being taken as they are offered. Beautiful.
Okay, I don't mean to bother, but is it just me, or does it look like Scylla is floating out of Charybdis (the whirlpool) before she attacks...like they teamed up to scare the crew even more
@@YaBoiGR1Mcould be, haha, mythology wise I don’t think they ever make monsters team up often (Scylla and Charybdis are an odd duo) but I believe that logically they must share some sort of bond if they hunt people together instead of one another
@plaguedoctor2882 They don't intentionally team up. They might take advantage of each other and just go with the benefits. Who knows haha Charybdis and Scylla lurk in a narrow strait. If sailors only had that one way they could take, they had to choose. Charybdis lived under the water surface and sucked in water 3 times a day or so. Every Ship would be completely lost. It is said that not even Poseidon could have helped them. Scylla lived above the water in a lair and sacrifices had to be made to her if anyone wanted to pass her. So sailors had to be knowledgeable and educated about both to choose wise. Anyway, every monster then had their food when sailors wanted to avoid the other one while thinking they would have better chances with that or the other. Does it make sense? Not a native speaker here 🫡
All of the crew looking away as Odysseus walks past, unable to meet his gaze because it's not just Eurylochus' guilt but their own too, such a great detail
The parallels between Scylla's and Odysseus' eyes is everything to me. They are so different in appearance but that "glint" in their eyes reveals the truth. That glint of survival, of being a monster. It is something they share and she recognises. It was no mistake she went over him for the sacrifice with the torch. She knew he was a monster too.
Yk what makes this better? In the “canon” of Greek mythology, Scylla doesn’t attack other monsters. She’s sentient enough to know the difference between say, a human and a siren. Which does she not attack? Sirens. That’s because all monsters in some way or form in Greek mythology are *related.* In a twisted way, you could see this as Scylla welcoming a new sibling. A new addition to the “family”
@@emerson4140what makes it even better is the fact that Odysseus really is related to Scylla since he is the Grandson of Hermes😂 (so if we stretch things they are indeed Family)
@@emerson4140 As a writer im going to use this great fact youve reminded me of and use it in my book when I get stuck and have writers block. I have a list of troupes, facts, and things of the sort to go onto when I get stuck on my story, and it just becomes a plot twist. Thank you for this lovely addition.
I was like what are you talking about ohhhhhhh 6 torches and the six heads okay I get it now I thought it was weird he asked for specifically six torches
It wasn't wrong, exactly. It was the best of two very bad choices. The *other* way was near a giant whirlpool monster (Charybdis) that would have destroyed the entire ship and all the crew. Sacrificing 6 men was the the lesser of two evils.
the way eurylochus’ eyes lit up when ody asked him to light up the torches because he took it as a sign that he still trusted him and that he forgave him … in fact the emotions portrayed by eurylochus as a whole were amazing i think it’s the first animatic where he and odysseus seem so human and it made me empathise so much, my heart is broken knowing what comes next 🥹
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO DOESNT MAKE ODY COMPLETELY STOIC- I love how it seems as if Ody is just trying to distance himself emotionally throughout the whole animatic- because if he was actually present that would be way to much for him to handle :(( Ody really didn’t want to do that, Ody still cares for his crew, and yet a lot of people act as if he just doesn’t care anymore
Exactly, he does care about his crew. It’s just that this was the only thing, he could think to do. To Ody, it was either this or deal with Poseidon. This wasn’t what he wanted, but he also knew there was no other choice.
Honestly, I think this is my favorite animatic because of Ody’s reaction to Eurylochus’ confession. It feels more realistic that he wouldn’t LOOK betrayed. Like he already knew. And it’s scary with no reaction than when he’s visibly betrayed.
I really love how you despicted Eurylochus in this animatic, he looks like he truly feels guilty about opening the wing bag and is worried about Ody's reaction to his confession, most animatics i've seen make Eurylochus too stoick in that part for my taste, here he really looks like he is sorry. The understanding and kind smile Odysseus gives him, just makes his realisation at the end more mortifying. And your desing of Scylla is a 10/10, love it, she is so pretty, yet scary at the same time.
@@lightcpkhfm2305 that's the realisation i'm talking about. Eury is realising that not only Ody sacrifised 6 men, but that he was one of the men he was about to sacrifise.
1:20 EURYLOCHUS LOOKS SO RELIEVED CAUSE HE THINKS ODYSEUSS FORGAVE HIM :((((( AND HE LIGHTS UP A TORCH FOR HIMSELFFFFF AND HE DOESNT KNOW ODY PLANNED HE'D DIE TOO anyways I LOVE THIS SO MUCH
Do you think Odysseus forgives eurylochus because he's going to sacrifice him ? I'd like to believe he's seeing it as penitence and a way to even things out between them
OH MY GOD!! the other men on the ship being terrified and traumatized after seeing the six men get eaten, THE HAPPY LOOK ON EURYLOCHUS'S FACE WHEN ODYSSEUS GIVES HIM HIS TASK AND THE LOOK OF HORROR AS HE REALIZES WHAT HES DONE, ODYSSEUS'S GUILT!??!?!?
Scylla was made a monster by Circe, because they loved the same dude. Tricked, she was made into something terrible by someone with more power over her. I love Jorge really leaning into to the thematic subtext of Love for another twisting someone into a Man-killer.
Yes! And the subtextual references to Scylla's own betrayal and transformation are another brilliant touch. "Give up your honor and faith / Live up your life as a wraith / Die in the blood where you bathe" is a reference to her own unwilling transformation into a monster in the bathing pool, which she eventually embraced, like Odysseus.
the stares of scylla and odysseus at the end; with scylla gleaming with a sort of sadistic joy contrasted with odysseus being shaken yet almost looking on empty,,,, aaaaa I LOVE IT AND IT HURTS 😭
Ooh, I love the implication that Odysseus already knew that it was Eurylochus! My personal interpretation is that that is also the reason why he didn't want to hear him out in Puppeteer. Another great animatic!
Eurylochus' little smile when he thinks things are back to the normal dynamic 😭 Also, got to love monster heads with a sense of musical timing in their entrances!
2:46 I AM KICKING AND SCREAMING- I LOVE this interpretation of this line! I originally saw it as an acknowledgment of him monstrous side not a realization. But you showing more of his guilt makes it hit in a very different but still very satisfying way
Thing is, its worth nothing, cause in the end he will always chose himself. His mercy only ever hurts cause he cant the hell commit, the mome t he sees the need for death, he becomes heartless and needlessly cruel... Like wtd with the sirens, killing them fair, but cutting their tails of and letting them slowly drown... Really damned mercyful. His goodness was always disingenuous poseidon has a massiv point there, he gives him an out with an appology, whatever it was real or not, we will nwver know for odysseus is way to self righteous to really be sorey and he says a lot of stuff, but non of it was an appology.... So he feels bad for sacrificing the men , but that saves literally no one, just makes it worse for everyone. Mercy hasa cost and what odysseus does has the most cost, cause he just cant commit to either leading again and again to death and misery for everyone
FINALLY Someone who does odysseus' reaction to eurylocus' confession the right way. Yeah, he's upset by it, but it's way in the past. Right now, what would really trouble his mind is what's about to happen. Side note I always viewed Scylla's song as they enter the lair to be sung directly at odysseus, even though it mirrors eurylochus
Another side note being that he actually means row for your lives. Other animatics have him barely reacting. As though resolve to do a thing will take away the inherent fear and uncomfortableness and shame in the moment.
It mirrors, Odysseus’s descent into becoming a monster. Because a monster doesn’t feel anything beyond the disregard of life and at this moment, this was him, disregarding the lives that he just sacrificed in order to push forward. However he sees the reality of it in the form of hearing their screams. And feels absolutely haunted by this decision, that he’s made.
Yes! Her whole song is about how Odysseus and herself are the same. Unwillingly transformed into monsters ("give up your honor and faith, live up your life as a wraith, die in the blood where you bathe") but willingly embracing their nature to survive.
I love this version of Odysseus. His empathy to still smile at Eurylochus even though it must've been hard to forgive his trusted friend for being the reason they all aren't home (besides Poseidon hunting Odysseus down). I also like how seven of the men (three visibly showing guilt the other four in the background as Ody walks passed them) are the exact ones who are killed. The foreshadowing is so subtle but genius. Also Odysseus' face during the slaughter is chefs kiss. Love how you still show his humane side instead of his aloof and deranged side 😢💙
1:20 the fucking soft smile here, just happy Ody hasn't taken his admittance of guilt too harshly... 2:35 contrasted by the look of absolute horror as he realizes what they've just done...
Goddd the little smile Odysseus gives Eurylochus after his apology. You can see the moment he decides what he's going to do and he makes peace with it. Chillingly effective
Eurylochus’s moment of realisation hit so hard, like they were trying their best to keep their relationship alight in this song and animatic but when Eury realises what Odysseus has done his face completely drops. I love this so much 😭😭
I will never get over how poetic it is for Scylla to be calling out Odysseus for his secret plan, all the while his friend is apologizing for his own minor secret. I also really appreciate how this is the first time we have Eurylochus use the same line that Odysseus has constantly used as the reason for his own poor decision making of ‘I’m just a man’ but that’s one too many times for Odysseus to accept.
@@wandering_scavenger6756basically at one point scylla was a nymph, a god of the sea Glaucus fell in love with her but she turned him down. He went to Circe and pleaded she make him a love potion but Circe herself was secretly in love with him so instead she went... And using her magic and herbs she Poisoned the water in which scylla bathed. Result? When scylla went to bathe, she turned into THAT thing. Meaning Circe is responsible for her current physical state and probably mental state aswell.
@@KrystianZieba-kc8tx yep. to me, the lines, "leaving you feeling betrayed" towards the beginning and "die in the blood where you bathe" at the end are clear references to her own transformation and betrayal by circe
0:35 the eye twitch!! Ahhh, such detail!! It shows that he really knows! Odysseus just doesn't want to bring it up considering that he just wants to go straight home but Eurylochus just have to bring it up!😫
I absolutely LOVE the expressions of all the characters in this animatic, even the guys rowing the boat when Eury confessed! Looks of guilt, not being able to look at Odysseus in the eye when he walks past them because they absolutely knew what Eury did but they didn't tell on him. (goes to show where most of the loyalty lies from the soldiers).
I love how Odysseus' reaction to his crewmates dying shows that he does feel guilt and is bothered by what's happening. And despite him trying to be distant, trying to be a true monster, he's still "just a man." Just a man trying to get back home.
He knew the consequences, I love the little details you have given like at 2:19 you see Eurylochus quickly, handing over the torch to somebody else to save the guy that’s falling into the mouth of the monster, and during all those screams Odysseus slowly feeling guilty and covering his ears of the people that are screaming, and at the end when they get out of the cave Eurylochus’ eyes as he realizes that Odysseus just sacrificed, six men with the torches that were lit up, and the eye glowing showing that they are literally the same, just trying their best to survive, even if it means becoming a monster to your own crew 2:53 also I love how she’s petting one of the monsters at the end right there!!! AHHH and your design for her is amazing
I love how when Eury reveals to Ody that he was the one who opened the windbag, it isn’t just Ody that feels betrayed in your animatic, it’s also the crew. Eury fr screwed not only his Captain and King, but the other men as well. (I love Eury but omg 😔)
I actually always headcanoned that the entire crew knew about Eurylochus's secret, but nobody had the courage to tell Odysseus. Idk why, it just makes me sadder. Considering Scylla sings "Leaving THEM feeling betrayed" this interpretation makes a lot more sense, but still, I like my headcanon
@@yay29823 I actually don't think it was Eurylochus that Scylla was talking about. Scylla always takes 6 men, most likely not knowing what's about to happen like in the animatic. It was Eurylochus who betrayed Odysseus. But it was Odysseus who betrayed the crew. He who betrayed Them.
AHHHH PHENOMENAL AS ALWAYS AHHHHHH THE WAY ODYSSEUS COVERS HIS EARS SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO HEAR THE SCREAMS THE LOOK OF HORROR ON EURYOCHUS Edit: REWATCHING NOW LOVE THE WAY ODYSSEUS DOESN'T EVEN REACT TO THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HIS SECOND IN COMMAND OPEN THE WIND BAG IT'S LIKE HE ALREADY KNOWS Edit 2: Oh my God the way EURYOCHUS LOOKS ALMOST RELIEVED WHEN HE'S TOLD TO LIGHT UP THE TORCHES
Eurylochus' smile when Odysseus tells him to light up the torches makes me think he thought 'Oh maybe he's not mad, he really forgave me' (the way he was staring at the water before makes me think the smile Ody had given him only made him feel more guilty), which only makes the realization of what Odysseus planned to do hurt more Also Odysseus face when he says row for your lives- amazing! You can feel the despair and urgency, the raw emotion
I love the pain and guilt you can see on Ody’s face as he’s trying to block everything out. Just wanting to ignore the slaughter he led the men he very much still cares for into. (think about it, he kept ALL SIX HUNDRED of them alive for 12 years, lost 15 to a monster, and then lost over 500 more to Divine Intervention/Retribution. Ody cared so much for all of his crew based on how long they all lived). I loved that this one was more focused on Odysseus-not to say the gore isn’t fine but I adore the introspection here. It adds to the song, especially the line about giving up honor. It’s not honorable to just sit there, at least fight for your life (then again, Ody was never in trouble with Scylla to begin with) Also, Love love love Scylla going over him to get the first man with a torch.
I love the way you did the character relationships here. Ody seemingly forgiving Eury, him being glad to give out torches considering what actually happens, and even his guilt with Eury’s shock in realization after. Also the Scylla/Ody parallel shot ugh
I can only imagine the terror of sailing through a pitch black strait and the holders of the only pinpricks of light get gobbled up by some monster you can’t immediately discern. Ody was a menace for this one, but after 10+ years and seeing my mom died not too long before this event, I probably would have done the same. And would have made sure Eurylochus got eaten.
The crew (excluding Ody) where the ones to get themselves in this mess by opening the wind bag. I don’t entirely blame him for this when he nearly had them back home and they messed up
when eury smiled in relief when ody asked him to light up 6 torches 😭😭 and tHEN THE STARE OF HORROR WHEN THEY MAKE IT OUT OF THE CAVE IM RELISHING IN THE ANGUISH
First, I love Scylla's design here, just perfect. I can't even explain what part of it speaks to me but, it just does. Most importantly though, the way you draw Odysseus's reaction to Eurylochus's admission is just amazing. I have yet to see another rendition of it where Odysseus doesn't react in surprise. In yours he already seems to know from the second Eurylochus steps forth, like it's just confirming a theory he had. It's just so painful and hits so deep that he had that theory in the first place, such a departure from what he thought of his crew in the beginning of their journey. But now so many years on he isn't surprised by the betrayal of his right hand man, the one he should trust the most. The quick glance down is just full of emotion, just pure defeat and an acceptance of something he didn't want to be real. The narrowing of the eyes when Eurylochus first starts speaking is just magnificent. And it all comes together to paint a just heart wrenching portrayal of Odysseus that just speaks to me on a deep level. If that wasn't the intention I feel so stupid but it just makes this one my favorite of any animatic of this song. Just a drastically different take on his reaction compared to others. Wonderful Animatic. I'll be sure to keep watching the ones you make!
I loved how you showed Odysseus’ guilt. How he couldn’t watch, but still visualising his men being slaughtered. And that horror in his eyes during “We are the same you & I.” Also, cool detail of having Scylla’s heads come up on the beat.
I've seen many versions of Scylla in these animatics (all of which are amazing) but I sincerely love your version of her by far! While most others keep her more serene looking, yours looks just as feral and hungry as her six heads, making her so much more terrifying. Overall 100/10 animatic 🎉🎉🎉
The nods and references to the 1997 miniseries that you give visually from the beginning of the video up to 0:21 are top tier, though i'm not sure you did them intentionally or not
The way he ducks past the first head, my gosh. (I didn’t see one crewmember walk up, so i briefly thought it was Eurylochus who got snapped) No matter what this is amazing!
Wow. Just wow. This was amazing! All the expressions were PERFECT!! 😮😆 How tired Odysseus looks - 0:10 Eurylochus trying to be optimistic - 0:22 How ashamed Eurylochus and crew look - 0:26 0:33 0:43 0:47 0:54 0:58 1:07 Odysseus trying to reassure Eurylochus - 1:01 Odysseus not being surprised at being betrayed - 0:37 0:43 0:45 Eurylochus super happy to be feeling useful again - 1:21 The Scylla heads being in sync is super cool, showing off all six heads - 1:38 1:40 Eurylochus’s look when his ‘brothers’ are dead, and he realizes that Odysseus had planed it - 2:35 Love the background-color transition from Odysseus trying to drown out the events, to reality look REALLY cool -(2:16-2:33) YOU NEED TO KNOW, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY MASTERPIECE 💖🤩😆
For anyone wondering why Scylla only takes a few when she could probably take many. I think it's because she's a genius. A mad genius, but a genius nonetheless. She teaches anyone who transverses her domain that they can sacrifice a few sailors to pass. Any money hungry merchant who wants a short cut. Any pirate who wants a quick escape. Entire military fleets trying to flank or surprise their enemies. All of them would sacrifice lives for their own purposes. Not to mention Posiden's enemies. Monsters, heretics, rivals. All of them would go through her. It might even be why Posiden hasn't taken action against her. His foes weaken themselves by traveling through her domain. The very thing they believe protects them from Posiden's wrath, kills them while he laughs. Scylla is terrifying...but now I'm interested. I gotta go round up six wingmen so I can try asking her out.
I've been consuming these animatics lately, and something I love in yours is that Ody doesn't look shocked or angry when Eury confesses to opening the wind bag. He has the same tired look as the shots before hand, and that smile he gives to Eury to me says "Hey, it's okay." but it's purely skin deep. Edit: another thing too is Ody doesn't look surprised when Scylla shows up like I've seen in other animatics. He looks afraid or worried, but he has the look of a man who decided to cross a bridge when he came to it, and now has to own up to that choice.
2:19 - Eury handing off his torch is brilliant. After his confession, Ody says nothing about it but walks away, like he's thinking, "Well, I know who Sacrifice #1 will be," only to see that he survived. Jay wanted Scylla to be horrifying and give the audience nightmares. You 100% succeeded!!!
one thing i think gets overlooked is that as both a captain of war, the captain of the ship, and the reigning king of his homeland- giving orders that will send men to their death is well within his right and part of the expected responsibilities of a leader. I'm not saying he did nothing wrong- but it dose complicate things. solders are told to go on suicide missions all the time. crewmen are sacrificed to keep the ship as a whole afloat. people are put in harms way to protect their king. He tried to get them all home alive but because they opened the wind bag, now he has to make much harder choices as consequence. He could- and probably should- have tried to do more to protect his crew or at least let them know the risks. what he did was messed up- but i think it was more a betrayal of friendship than that of a leader. i honestly love how messy and complicated it is.
I adore how complicated and grey this whole series can get tbh!! But I will say that there seems to be a difference between kings who sat back and sent out warriors and kings who fought alongside with thier warriors. A separation between caste that's taken down, they saw him more as a friend/brother in arms than a king. If he was more of an traditional king I feel like they would still be pissed but ultimately would understand that's thier place in life, pawns for thier superiors. But Ody never treated them like subjects, so it hurts when they see him slip more into that persona since he needs to get home, thier lives are lesser in Ody's eyes the longer they're on this journey. It hurts but I love everyone in this musical bc of it :(
Wow. Just wow. This was amazing! All the expressions were PERFECT!! How tired Odysseus looks - 0:10 Eurylochus trying to be optimistic - 0:22 How ashamed Eurylochus and crew look - 0:26 0:33 0:43 0:47 0:54 0:58 1:07 Odysseus trying to reassure Eurylochus - 1:01 Odysseus not being surprised at being betrayed - 0:37 0:43 0:45 Eurylochus super happy to be feeling useful again - 1:21 The Scylla heads being in sync is super cool, showing off all six heads - 1:38 1:40 Eurylochus’s look when his ‘brothers’ are dead, and he realizes that Odysseus had planed it - 2:35 Love the background-color transition from Odysseus trying to drown out the events, to reality look REALLY cool -(2:16-2:33) YOU NEED TO KNOW, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY MASTERPIECE I adore this animatic! I've rewatched it multiple times, I can't get enough of it! ❤☺😁😁😁
i love how everyones actually drawing the blood and death with this song. in past sagas like the cyclops saga people have always done it more in the background which is fine for those songs but in this one i feel like it’s important to highlight just how fucked up this for odysseus to do.
if epic ever becomes like a broadway musical, i want that detail of eurylochus handing off the torch to try to save someone in the choreography soooo bad.
so one is talking about at 1:50 it look like it's littarely odysseus who have giant snake head, and his the one who eat is men ? Ximena, I don't know if that intentionnal But if it is, damn, your a genius !
YOUVE DONE IT AGAIN OH MY GODS showing how ody is pushing down his emotions to what hes doing because he needs to get back to his family is just heart breaking. and how eury looks at him after they exit the cave omg. chefs kiss
When Eurylochus smiles after Odysseus tells him to light the torches, thinking it's an olive branch his friend is using to tell him he's forgiven? That HURT. Also, how dare you call any part of this a failure! You did a fantastic job!
Odysseus chooses the option that guarantees majority survival instead of the chance that none would survive, even though there was a chance of 100% survival as well. He was still thinking of the crew as he handed the torches off, no doubt thinking of the families in Ithaca that wouldn't see their kin again. Eurylochus is also thinking of the crew, but due to his loyal nature and the fact that these 41 (presumably still during Scylla and not counting Odysseus) men are all that remain of their original 600 causes him to become fiercely protective of them. The only other person who could bave talked sense into Odysseus is Polites, but he's been gone for so long and after traveling through the Underworld his influence is gone and he's fully embraced what Eurylochus and Poseidon represent, caution and ruthlessness. But in Mutiny Eurylochus is asking Odysseus to basically perform miracles by saying that he should have planned a way for the whole crew to survive, hypocritically, considering he was ready to abandon his scout party on Circe's island. "When we encountered the cyclops, it was you who had a plan, and when we fought with Circe it was you who left behind no man but-!/If you want all the power you must carry all the blame!" Yet they'd already be home if Eurlyochus had trusted his Captain in the first place. Now Odysseus isnt even sure if he can trust any of his crews since "Luck Runs Out" and the bag of winds because he knows they're losing faith, but no one else has the experience, intelligence, or pure will to do what Odysseus has done. Also I didnt know that Odysseus first handed Eurylochus one of the torches, who ended up passing it to another trying to save someone. I think that definitely plays into Eurylochus' breaking point, because he definitely realised that it was the torches that lured Scylla's heads in. I hope some of this made sense at least, im extremely tired and can barely keep track of what I'm already typing, much less trying to tie it in with other thoughts
I'm convinced Epic animators are monsters of their own with the speed they are putting these out! Incredible work Ximena, the expressions in this were so sad 💛
0:38 you know that we are the same “Eurylochus, light up six torches” *scylla devours all men holding torches* = “Where is he?! Where is he?!” “Keep your head down he’s aiming for the torches!”
This is the only animatic for this song where Odysseus doesn’t look shocked when Eurylochus confesses about the wind bag. Also, the relieved smile he gives after Odysseus is still willing to give him orders is a great touch.
With the concept that Jorge put forward, that by being heard by men some creatures of the sea can see into the memories of those nearby, Scylla knew exactly what was happening. Considering her past, betrayal is a bit of a sore subject for her. Scylla and Ody made a deal, just then, and she accepted for the chance to bring retribution onto those who betrayed Odysseus. The fact that Eurylochus survives is just chance. Bad luck for all of them, considering the next decision he makes when he has the chance to confront Ody for this.
Someone in another animatic (btw this one’s my favorite so far ❤ ) said the line « we are the same you and I » couldn’t be more true since later in the « King » song when Ody is destroying the suitors one of them screams « he is aiming for the torches! » 👀 Ody really became like Scylla : a monster
It's more like he applies what he learns from every foe, like using the lotus wine on the Cyclops ala Trojan horse (gift turing deadly), then using the cyclops as his imagined being to defeat Circe and her magical creation. Or becoming more Ruthless each saga only after his run in with Poseidon. To finally aiming for the torches when he finally reaches home like Scylla did here. Ultimately proving that he can become the Monster. Or something like that. Cant wait to see what the other sagas reveal! 😁
It is *wild* that we immediately go from Different Beast with the vibe of, "We're the real monsters now, we're not gonna take shit from anyone anymore" to Scylla here just nomming down on a bunch of helpless sailors. Jeez.
