SDi Jeep better than a Raptor? 

We were blown away man. Their Jeep is way more impressive than the Raptor stuff we’ve seen.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Yeah, that was nuts.

I think we all agree there. Even if some cutting was required, it would be a far better option than the arm bump stops we see.

So is the Mojave arms longer because of the different shocks? I’m thinking more and more that the shocks are the ones really making a difference. Yes everything else contributes of course. But the biggest thing that can improve the steering and drivability are good quality shocks with a proper tune.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad It's not the Mojave Arms. It's the Arms from the Mopar 2" lift that Jeep offers for the Wrangler.

Yeah, we don’t know why, but on fast off-roading street mode is the most stable. Desert mode gets too stiff and makes it buck more. Not sure why, but it may be with the way the algorithms respond and they’ve put more time into Streep mode than any of the modes and made sure it can handle all situations

Check their Instagram. They are fairly active on it and an ice everything on there

Nice. What lift kit did you go with?

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Clayton 2.5 or 3.5 overland. Probably a mix of their springs so I can clear 37's. I want to keep it as low as I can. Was that SDI jeep running RockJock arms and 2.5 coils?

Great video by the way. Not a ton of info out there in the "Jeep" world on SDI.

Yeah, Wayne calls it curries 2.5in lift. The springs are soft and help with the smoother ride on street. And yeah, finding that awareness of these guys products is very low. One of the reasons I’m making these videos. Totally blown away and wish I would have found them long ago. They’ve been in business a long time, but they make parts for everyone else like walker evans. They are just getting into the consumer side and blowing everyone away.

If you are running a pedal sensitivity device like the Banks Pedal Monster or a pedal Commander and or the Derringer, these use the OBD2 port and this shock system does as well. You will get errors like I do. So now I have to choose between the Pedal Monster/Derringer or the shocks. The Icons and Falcons may not be as advanced but the icons are pretty close and do not require the OBD use. Want to buy my setup? I am thinking of doing the icons so I can still use the banks. It sucks because I love this system and it was well worth the money. Only reason I am posting is so people are aware. I love the shocks, but I love my Banks as well.

Yes!!! Someone noticed it. Had to do it to show how different the experience is between the stock and SDI Jeep.

YeH, a little weight will help big time, but when’s the last time you saw a Jeep runs trails like a raptor without spending huge sums of money.

Well yeah man. Don’t LR4 use air bags and all that to raise and lower? You would need remove that whole system first plus upgrade a ton of components to use a new set of coilovers. Would be cool as hell, but yeah man. They only make the shocks, not the whole suspension solution. Even on the jeep, they can support stock but to unlock the full potential you need a lift kit and a few arm upgrades to make it work right and this don’t make any of it

Thanks man. But a Jeep is definitely a little different than just a typical solid axle vehicle. My old F350 was a solid axle and that thing was very comfortable and the steering was on point. It did not turn fast, but that’s because it weighed 8k lbs.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad that’s also as long as a bus. My JT is smoother than a JLU. All because of wheelbase.

🤣🤣 yeah it was. Parking it was a nighmare

No spacers man. Just proper offset. I removed wayne told me the offset and backspacing but I don’t remover it off the top of my head. If you need it, I can ask.

Me too, challenge is finding the guys willing to do the comparison. Very few guys show up

🤣🤣 I wish! They are too hard to get and the markups for them are crazy high. For those price I could get another raptor. Shit maybe 2 Raptors

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yeah those crappy dealers dont help much, thankful the one here locally doesn’t mark things up at all. They never have and never will according to them.

From what we were told at the dealer, after the steering gear and software fix, the wrangler steering is basically the same. Makes sense that the gladiator would be different because of the length and extra weight of it

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad it’s not an eccentric where you can set the lash in the box?

Honestly don’t know enough about it. I have more experience with IFS than solid axles

Do they even still make Xterras?

And if I'm not mistaken the tpms comes on around 29ish psi so that's some of your steering issue!

You should try driving a raptor. The Jeep is beyond uncomfortable and a chore to drive. I had a bad sensor here that was later replaced. Just waiting for the dealer when we filmed this. Tires were at full pressure and had no impact on the drive. But if you watch the video, I’m talking about my last fee months with the Jeep . Not just during the drive. The jeep just did the typical BS it always does. And that’s with stock suspension on a relatively new Jeep. And the poor driving gets worse as you upgrade. Upgraded arms with better joints helps substantially with steering wheel input, but does not eliminate it all. That all being said, if you seriously think that just low pressure would make the Jeep worse to drive, then dude, you really need to drive a Raptor. Does not matter if I’m at full pressure or all the tires are low. Always drives like a dream with minimal corrections. And the seats are way more comfortable

They are working on it. Bronco market is small and still growing so they are focusing on Tacomas first and the bronco is next

Will have to find out some day

I’m sure it’s on the list of trucks to develop.

Lol. Well this setup changes it completely. We are seriously going to try and do it on my wife’s Jeep. Now I just have to convince her to let me do it 🤣

True, but this Jeep comes close.

You really should watch the video all the way to the end. We gave you Toyota guys a sneak peak.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad lol I’m barely on min 37:00 🤦‍♂️ haha

I’m excited to see what it can do to the taco if this was available for my tundra I would definitely jump on this ! Your videos have done a great job on showing the differences on what the eclick can do 🤙

I know they are working on a bunch of applications and the tundra is on that list

Secret test track. Sorry man we can’t share it or locals will shut it down.

True, but there are good steering box steering systems out there that don’t have anywhere near the slop a Jeep has. RAM, ford and Chevy all have some that if you never got under the truck, most would not know

Weird comment, but ok.

Don’t see what you’re talking about man. My jeeps air pressure was good and had no warnings on the dash. This was not an opinion based on a single drive. We’ve been driving that Jeep for years, on and off road. And it always rode horrible compared to the Raptor. It was a total chore to drive.

The split screen at 8:07 shows the tire pressures, your left is so low its red, the right front is 31, the right rear is 34 and left rear is 36 on your wife's Jeep just saying that is probably why it rides like crap. I am in looking for new shocks and these are on my radar looks pretty cool

Ah ok. Had to look up the service records to confirm if there was anything wrong and yeah man. Dealer had to replace a tpms sensor in that tire shortly after. You can see at the beginning of the video, the tire was not low. Not even close to the 5 psi shown. Now as far as suspension is concerned, if you want to improve the ride no matter if it’s at stock or lifted, there is nothing better than Eclick. It solved a lot of the problems with a Jeep and on both street and offroad there is massive improvement. On road manners are greatly improved. Way less body roll and not as much input. Offroad the live valve system is always trying to keep the Jeep level so you can feel the shocks getting stiffer and softer to keep the Jeep on grip. And lastly, it allows it to keep up with raptor. Not many jeep suspension system can say that.

Happy Spouse Happy House!!!!

🤣🤣🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ you must not be married.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad lol! I totally am, she uses that back on me when I say the happy wife happy life line.

🤣🤣 this will outperform a stock Gen2 on the trails 🤷‍♂️. I could not believe it too. But it can. And then it could drop in and do some rock crawling. It’s pretty impressive

I’m spoiled coming from the Raptor side. Jeep is a chore to drive. But with Eclick it’s not man. Completely transforms it and makes it way more capable while at the same time, much more drivable day to day

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Raptors a badass trucks I would not mind having one of those in my garage I'll tell you that it's a whole different monster Drive what you love to drive enjoy it

Yeah, it’s completely different worlds.

🤣🤣🤣 that’s funny. Not everyone is a rock crawler. Not my scene. I prefer fast off-roading which from your comment it’s clear you know nothing about it.

I know all about it but run a more capable truck for it than the raptor, the Ram TRX. But hey, have fun with your rice burner engine and fake engine sounds coming through your stereo! 😂

🤣🤣 I have a far more capable vehicle than your silly little TRX. I have a Gen1 with a mid travel suspension. But Regarless, my old Gen2 ran circles around a stock TRX. My gen1 leaves It in the dust. And none of my raptors had any problems jumping unlike the TRX that always goes limp mode or sets off the air bags

Uhh, the only thing small around here is the displacement of that ridiculous rice burner they call an engine in your raptor. Hope to see you on the street or off it, either way that raptor will look just as ugly in my rear view mirror.

Why do you think I have a Gen2. If your going to try and insult, get the truck right and know your shit. I have a gen1 now. That’s a v8 to your uneducated ass. And raptors are designed for the trails so that’s the performance mine is setup for and my little Gen1 with the tiny 6.2 will leave you behind once’s trails get rough. You can’t even get traction let along hit anything rough without the truck falling apart. But I digress, I tested a gen2 against a TRX. Guess which one won on the trails?? Go look it up, I’ll wait. 🤣🤣🤣

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Footage don’t lie man. The Jeep performed so good thru there and was the most versatile with just a mild lift. That all being said, I hate the way that Jeeps drive and they are not comfortable. But I know for a fact that a modern land cruiser is not as capable as a modern Jeep. Modern land cruiser is a large luxury SVU designed for onroad comfort. Jeep sacrifices are lot for offroad performance and is the better offroad vehicle

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I’ve had buddies roll too many times in those Jeeps. Yur right, they’re not comfortable at all and their gas tanks are small. I don’t know much about the latest Landcruiser like the 200 series. My favorite of the Cruisers is the 80 series with factory lockers. Those are literally the best 4x4 vehicles on earth. I think Toyota secretly brought in Hatori Hanzo and had him make the 80 series Landcruisers. Jeeps definitely have the cool factor going for them. I’m sure some, when modded well, are capable. But the 80 series Landcruiser is the king if done up well. I was a Landcruiser guy all my life since 17 years old. I started out with FJ-40’s (I restored 3 of them) then jumped up to the 80 Series (I had 3 of those). The only possible place to go up from there was the Raptor. I did consider the 100 series Landcruiser for a while.

80 series offroad reputation is very well known. Specially in Europe. But the latest land cruiser is a lot like a LandRover. All luxury and no real offroad performance anymore. For me Raptor is king offroad. But I’m biased. I’ve tried all off-roading and High speed off-roading is what I like and prefer and only the raptor does we’ll stock in that niche.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I know the Raptor is more about high speed and all that, but I’m sold on how well it’s (especially 1st gen) built. SVT did an unusually great job making it extremely heavy duty and overbuilt. Similarly to the 80 series Landcruiser.

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I’m very familiar with the quality and how the 80 series is over structured and overbuilt. I know this quality very well. And I think the 1st gen Raptor is a match in that type of quality. That’s why I believe the 1st gen Raptor will, in the future, be a highly sought after platform. I’m not bashing the 2nd gen and all that. I’m just saying I’m coming from a Landcruiser background and I can see and tell that the 1st gen is an absolute gem of a steal right now.