Sea of Thieves Will NEVER Be The Same Again. 

Exactly. Griefers stay seething.

pretty much yeah, i agree with all of this

I think there’s a genuine argument for player population

@@TriopsTrilobite At the end of the day that's a nonissue tbh. People will always be in the main high seas mode with the restrictions on the PVE mode that were discussed, and the PVE will be good for newer players, players that have nobody to play the game with regularly if at all (including myself here), and players that would rather not partake in PVP at all. EDIT: You can do a public crew for the second one, but honestly how often are you going to find randoms that you can vibe with long enough to get stuff done, or randoms that want to do the same activity you do?

i fear the exact oppisite, im going to stomp the AI and it will be boring compared to the difficulty of other players.

That would actually make me consider using a Galleon.

Agreed, I'd love to add a Fleet option to PvE servers. I have more than 3 friends XD

Yes, I was saying this earlier! Allow for big crews in safer seas. Let you cause complete chaos across the seas with your 8 friends.

I only started playing SoT at the launch of season 7, and had my first sloop in a matter of days, and Pirate Legend about a month or so after. I've had my fair share of good and bad pvp encounters, so I look forward to the idea of being the only player on a server. SoT became a "relaxing" escape to bad days, by just sailing and fishing.....while always looking over my shoulder, and doing my damndest to avoid other players. As stated previously, I am already Pirate Legend so I don't care about proggression. I just want to sail and goof off. Just remember it's a PVE Client Server, not a PVE shared server. The only people there are who you bring with you....and that's it. No other crews...period. Also, Rare made the comment not me, Safer Seas will be a great place for content creators that want to create without the hassle of being interupted. And becuase I feel it needs to be said, yes I will be popping back to the High Seas to play in the events that I can't on the Safer Seas...when the urge hits.

I also think the people saying that SS players will stop playing when they hit cap in everything and not come to HS is ignoring that non-pve/ss players still play the game to this day even with everything maxed out. Or ignoring that people just want to chill and vibe with friends. Another thing I've heard (and was mentioned in the video) is that they will maybe try out HS, get slapped, and leave back to SS or drop the game entirely. But they would've done that anyway, so... where's the problem? SS will give players a chance to invest time in the game outside of pvp and learn the game. They'll get invested in their character and the world and will likely stick around longer than if they jumped into HS and got immediately sunk by a sweaty crew looking to attack anything on sight. Another thing that I don't see many people mentioning is that the reason SS is coming to the game is because of the sweaty PvP, attack on sight mentality that's been cultivated in the game. Fresh players are not likely to stick around if they are constantly harassed and attacked or told to "git gud" or "go play something else if you don't like pvp!". These players then are surprised when people do in fact leave the game to never return. Phuzzy made a video about this and mentioned a few of these points too. But PvEvP games will always slowly dwindle without dedicated PvE(mainly) players. Without them the PvP players will get bored and leave. So it's a balancing act that I don't think a lot of PvP players take into consideration when talking about this stuff. Got to appeal to the wider group of PvE players to keep the game with a healthy amount of players or else you get dead servers because the PvP sweats drove everyone else away.

@@zarris2635 New player gets sunk by sweaty crew, sweaty crew tells new player to go play something else. New player leaves. Sweaty crew "Surprise Pikachu face."

If they quit is because the game wasn't for them anyway but they may have spent a few bucks in the Emporium which helped keep the game alive but I'm sure they had a good time how long they played as long as they weren't getting harassed. Imagine how many families what's a 6/8 year old kid they just want to be out on the Seas and I get shit out hard call gamer words whatever they never come back and trust me that happens a lot

so the entire way the game is played and works should change to cater to a select few

Or have duels in between crews!

That would be an amazing idea using it to truly see who is better

For real

From my understanding it's capped at 3 players, wiether or not that includes yourself, im not sure. But it does mean 1 ship only

Yeah I was pretty sad when I found out that he said 3 other players not 3 other ships. I’d love to see you be able to invite your friend onto a private server and just pvp with them

Pretty much. And, as a guy who has done pvp and enjoyed it a bit, the whole "it'll kill the pvp community" thing is an objectively good thing if said pvp community remains as toxic as it currently is. The ones most vocally against this are the ones constantly hounding players who've beaten them over and over while said players just wanna get sh*t done, and the ones constantly dropping everything to hunt down and kill an obviously new player repeatedly to then stroke themselves over it and claim it means they're good at the game, which is the REAL cause of the long term pvp playerbase of a game being diminished. I can't wait to see how much of the pvp community shows it's true colors. Complaining that they're now unable to win, because the ratio of new to experienced players in pvp mode is more skewed towards the experienced players, exposing them as the types to only sink new players. The harassment outside of simply chasing and sinking players who aren't interested in fighting over and over again, such as toxic messages, was also a long term issue. Oh, I'm sorry mister high and mighty "pvp god", I wanted to help a new player earn some money, didn't realise that sailing away from you somehow made me a "pussy who gets no b*tches". When I was playing, with my f*cking girlfriend. I would have found it funny if it wasn't just pathetic.

Me and my friends have 500 hours on the game and have been bored with all the farming missions. We decided to get in PvP in 2022 and we had the time of our lives, we always hated killing defenseless ships but it was something to fight. Now I'm 2023 since it's start there are alway runners, noobs and other people who aren't willing to fight and those who are keep server hopping. I am so glad for this update and cant wait to play it! Perhaps we'll beat a beta tester again or even find one let alone

Exactly. The only people I've found who are against this, are the people who sweat constantly and just want to sink new players who just completed their first world event.

This game always saddened me, because i loved everything about it. But id constantly get griefed even though id have nothing, and if i had anything it was low value, and not worth the time. Id even try to chat to people and let them know im new and i have nothing but still I'd constantly get killed by people who were unwilling to even talk. It was such a bad experince in such a beautiful game, and its the only thing that has kept me away from it. Im so excited this update is coming its like a dream come true.

@@HaplessOne Same experience man.

Friend of mine already throwing that one around last night lol

If someone is gonna get salty about getting sunk then that phrase is correct, you literally have no reason to get mad at getting sunk when you have safer seas to play on. If someone can complain and tell people to go to hourglass if they want pvp then I can respond with go to safer seas.

Are you gonna Pikachu face when they do go to the safer seas afterwards?

@@Chordgaille no, if someone cannot handle being sunk then they can stay on safer seas they literally have no excuse to complain about it

@@blueshark5072 Then they get sunk on safer seas by a skele sloop crew 🤣

Everyone does. People want to be happy and PvP is the opposite of that.

Except the fact that RARE wont even let you have full access to the game in the PVE servers. Limited rep and gold among other things. That is BS. If you pay full price for the game you should have full access in the PVE servers. P.S. Obviously the only limit would be earning PVP gear and cosmetics because ya know you have to PVP for that stuff.

+1

@@xxUncleBuckxx when the game first started, wasnt the initial level cap of trade companies 40? If thats true, then technically the safer seas IS the full game. Everything else was just free add ons. And to be fair the level rewards beyond 40 are basically the same, just slightly more glamorous clothes and same missions but with little higher payout. The safer seas is a good enough reason for me to finally get back in the game and actually have fun in the world. I couldnt care less about a 70% reward decrease.

@@ultimaLugia When you buy a game do you not expect to get updates and patches included in that price. And if level cap is raised in an expansion that you pay for do you not expect to get that as well? If you pay for the game you should have full access period.

EXAAACTLY!!

good that you can do that now in a Pirate game without the fear of Pirates. Congrats!

@Gubblll pirates didnt kill for the fun of ruining other people's lives. You're thinking of murderers, or in this case, griefers

​@@Gubblllpirates killed for loot. Not for the dake of makjng someone ragequit.

@@thesupreme8062 never happend to me because I give a shit about gold in this game. so i dosent have to Ragequit

real translation: player base died enough to bring out safer seas. This is the end of this game, let's bring out safer seas to try and get a few more micro transactions

​@@crash7976and even then the resource gain is abysmal. From the little bit of this game I played in the past I remember it already being hard enough to make money let alone making only 30% of thay

@@AA-sw5pb me an a couple friends actually spent a few hours in it yesterday, we saw maybe 3 boats before we sunk them...

@@AA-sw5pb also, I don't think it's too hard to make money, if you got a crew anyways. I've made millions and don't even play consistently, really only a few times a year. So anyone playing regularly shouldn't have issue

FINALLY somebody else saying it. I haven’t played the game for a long time, and haven’t stayed caught up with it, but I remember when skeleton thrones were added and you’d see multiple crews sailing together (sometimes even all getting on one ship) and visiting all of them together, chatting, playing music, and goofing off. I love interactions like those where it isn’t just about PvP, similarly to TF2. The fact the PvE servers only allow you and the crew you bring with you is a travesty, it feels like this middle ground of player interaction is being ignored, and that’s a shame.

I actually dont mind the reduced rewards, only because i love everything about this game so much that I'd be willing to grind it out for a long while. Only thing i hated was constantly getting griefed and trolled by people. Now that its pve idc what they do as long as i can sail the beautiful high seas and explore at my own pace wirhout the threat of sweaty no lifers.

The thing is, luckily ½ of the PvP sweats left cus they removed quick swap. And ontop of that if PvE servers had full rewards No-one would play PvP anymore, which would kill the game Nor does it "gatekeep" end game

@@sweetangel0deth845 I think your wrong it wouldn't kill the game. PVP servers would still be populated by people who just prefer that type of game play and PVEers would jump in when they get the urge for a fight. and it is gatekeeping endgame content and gear especially as gold is so prohibited.

@@sweetangel0deth845 Me: I'd like to play the game but i hate pvp Rare: Ok, have PvE servers but you earn 70% less gold, cant get factions leveled above 40, cant level athenas or reapers what so ever, cant become any kind of emissary and you also cannot use captained ships or join a guild. You: This is clearly not gatekeeping.

Pirate go yar har, empty thy pockets scallywag

skill issue

@@commander_starz8188 learn to read

Honestly. Why are you even grinding? Get someone else to join you and do the checkpoint glitch. Sure you could play honestly. But every tall tale 5 times?

@@CS_Mango still is a problem in open seas

Thats nit pve thats a orivate server

"My biggest hope for the Safe Seas is pretty much what everyone else wants. Invite your friends to do PvP with them instead" Noup I can say for 99% sure :) Safer seas means no PVP at all, with anybody:)

No thats not it.. the game is a pvpve by taking the pvp and pve and separating it it changes the game fundamentally.. the issue is that pve players refuse to acknowledge pvp is part of the game too.. the game is fair we have access to all the same items weapons and ships from day 1 but the pve players just cry on the internet instead of learning pvp and protecting their shit and fix their own problems.. pve players just ignorant and lazy learn some pvp get good and fight back its a pirate game if you don't like ur shit stolen dont let them steal it because there is no advantage everyone is beating you because they are skilled so if you become skilled now its an even fight stop being lazy put in the work this is a sad excuse to ignore the needs of the player base on rares end

​@@ultimatewafflegaming1018no you are wrong

@@eyevan7100 how so aside from my critique of pve players which is my own opinion what I said is factual and true

@@ultimatewafflegaming1018 nah ur wrong

@@ultimatewafflegaming1018 PVP force their gameplay on to others. PVE just want to be left alone.

Wait you dont want to get sunk by a kid who just bought an account with dark adventurer set when doing a tall tale?

@@filipbitala2624 Ye

@@filipbitala2624 They scare me

Sames. I'm not averse to PVP. But, sometimes I just want to chill and kill skellies.

Partial gold/rep for initially finding/acquiring loot is honestly a great idea. Means you still make progress, even if you get sunk.

Counterpoint: EVE Online. The new player star systems are off-limits but if the newbro takes one step out of those systems, they're fair game. But people are nice to new players. Very often, when a new player is killed, the killer will send them enough money to replace their lost ship and maybe email them with tips on how to avoid dying next time. It's not uncommon for a new player to die to someone and then end up getting recruited by them. As for pvp players killing pve mains, if you pay attention to intel and take the proper precautions, you'll be fine most of the time. Logging in is consent to combat, don't use what you can't afford to lose, your gear is replacable, etc, this mindset keeps you sane in an unrestricted pvp game.

@@datmoongamer Eve is an anomaly though and I am not saying that in a bad way. Its one of the reasons I am looking forward to Pax Dei.

The toxicity in this game comes from it's core mechanic of "It's more fun to steal other people's work instead" Players can spend hours and hours getting loot only to lose all of that to one mistake or simply not being "gud enuff" at pvp. Yeah of course these two groups are not going to get along. The real solution Rare needed to make was to rework PVP from the ground up. Make it into something a lot less punishing and more forgiving, like for example: Defenders get a bit of extra health for being on their ship. (also won't make cannon balls to the face an insta-kill anymore) Players get a level of reward and reputation for loot found on the spot. (if they lose it later it won't be all for nothing) Better hit-reg. Faster food eating. Make it optional to go to the ferry of the damned or not so as to avoid waiting through a black screen as your hardware reloads the location you were in. Allow for players to choose where to re-spawn on their ship. *Vault away quickscope double gunning.* (if there was going to be a controversial change THIS was the one to die on.) Jump cool-down during combat. And so on. But noooo instead they chose to just put the other half of the players in a separate box because it's easier. I don't have a big problem with Safer Seas other than it's just ignoring the problem that PVP in this game is a clunky mess.

Nahhhh. That’s cap. You have cooked food which gives you overheal etc already. The same tools are available to every crew to use, it’s not anyone else’s fault or responsibility if you chose to not utilise them. Sea of thieves is fair already. Same tools, same health, same weapons, same mechanics. You cannot complain if you get beaten 😂 it’s just down to game awareness, which improves over time, and skill with using the tools in the sandbox again, this all improves over time. To me, this update is for Rare to show to Daddy Xbox that they can improve their player retention. So now new players will sink 40+ hours into safer seas before venturing into high seas where they will encounter the same interactions as they do now. Howeve they now have the ability to go back and hibernate in safer seas. Still proving hours in game for Rares statistics. It only prolongs the inevitable. The best way to close this skill gap was with something like Arena. 5 ship free for all which mimics varying multi ship situations you would find in adventure mode, all while not risking any loot in the process. It’s basically just a training ground to get better as a player. But it’s gone, leaving a void in the skill gap. So players are left with 2 choices, engage and improve or run and stay stagnant in skill.

The pve and pvp players dont understand the game is just as much pvp as it is pve the divide was nonsense and just people being dumb sea of thieves is both pvp and pve and so making it separate will change the game fundamentally so this is no longer sea of thieves because they literally made it a new game.. as a veteran player ive been with this game for a while but listening to cry babys and toxic sweats ultimately broke the game instead of fixing it... its supposed to be both those idiots will find another piece of bs to complain about this was prolly the worst decision they could have made

​@@pyerackits a pirate game people never seem to get that your entire point of playing the game is to be a pirate and a pirate is someone who robs boats theyre literally a sea thief if you don't like that then why did u get the game in the first place

@@ultimatewafflegaming1018 Uuh... wrong reply? The whole thing he was saying is don't separate the community but overhaul combat so it actually plays well. That'd fix the game better than anything else. I mostly quit because combat became so boring since every fight was the same thing. Double gun. Why have PvP in a game where combat barely functions for a PvE setting? 3 weapons are complete garbage and 1 can instakill you. PvE vs. PvP isn't the problem. The combat system being bottom of the barrel trash is.

100% agree, and I think the compromise of "yes it's here, but you cant just farm gold" is the perfect solution to this. For tall tales and commendations such as glitterbeard/umbra's journals I think it'll be great

@@nolo2484 i dont think u'll be able to do glitterbeard as it requires 8 players

@@Dejamn yeah should have specified, meant the journals, not the final part

@@nolo2484 oh right, totally forgot about glitterbeard journals xD mb

I don't totally agree with them including pve servers as the best teacher in SOT for new players is... well baptism by fire. Not to excuse the toxicity, but it seperates the guys who just give up after being burned and the guys that swear revenge and go on to be gods of pvp solely to teach that mouthing off SOB a lesson.... Thats the beauty of SOT... in a weird way. BUUUT! I agree with your viewpoint on the new PVE servers honestly being optimistic for a change... I could see a lot of veteran players doing this... a lot of fisherman will move over to safer seas to avoid being harrased. Be great to finally be able to get all commendations for tall tales... means the gold curse is gonna decrease in cool value though lol

Me a guy who sucks a** at PVP, but recognizes its function in the broader scope of SOT: "I see your point, but I wouldn't know the answer" Edit: The more I see about this topic actually the more I tent to agree with you. I’m still playing devils advocate though as I’m skeptical not because I don’t see Rares plan now but because I’m not sure it’ll work out like they intend to.

I would disagree and I fear this: It's a "we don't want to fix our issues" option. Pve servers is an excuse to not fix hitreg, hacking, toxicity and stuff. I am really worried for the game, as Shiny said "pve doesn't carry this game"

@@fallendeath16How would Rare fix the toxicity?

@@fallendeath16 "PVE doesn't carry this game", but the game doesn't exist without it either. How "alive" has the game been lately? How active is hourglass? The whole "we don't want to fix our issues" isn't issues brought on by Rare, they're brought on by the PVP community themselves. Only newer players or idiots actually attempt any of the world events, because everyone knows you have roughly 0.00001% chance to actually get the rewards after you spend 10minutes plus doing the event. The only way to get a braindead PVP'er to even come close to a FoF or FotD is if there is another ship already there and they just completed the event. Otherwise PVP'ers just keep sailing around gathering boards, cannonballs, and food from every island, passing up all the random loot that spawns in, or picking fights with absolutely everyone on the horizon. Say what you want, but the new PVP voyage will be dead in about a month because while there are random drop off zones for the skull, everyone is going to know all of them after a week. Then all the PVP'ers are just going to camp the drop off areas and wait for some idiot to collect both the chest and key to get the skull and head to the drop off. And with the slower sailing speed, the PVPer's that picked the wrong point will have time to get to the right one before the carrier ship does. Then it's a game of who can grab the skull and sell it in the mass chaos of every ship in the server fighting each other. You are just salty because Rare is finally giving us the game they promised at the very start, "You can play the game in your own way." It took them over 5 years to do so. PVP'ers will PVP even if they are the only ones wanting to do so (while calling everyone that doesn't toxic for some reason), and PVE'ers can't PVE because of the PVPer's. So PVE'ers leave the game like the PVP'ers want and then the game dies because there isn't anyone left for the PVP'ers to fight with other than other PVP'ers, and that's just like Arena and Hourglass, which PVP'ers already avoid. So, with the PVE'ers chased away telling the whole world that the game is nothing but d!ckheads that can't do anything but attack you constantly, and PVP'ers leaving because there isn't anyone to PVP against anymore and telling the whole world that SoT is a PVP game and if you don't want to be attacked constantly then you need to stop playing or never play to begin with, where does that leave the game? Nobody to play. Everyone cries when Rare adds new PVE to the game, but those same people haven't played the game in weeks because they have nothing to do without people willing to do the old PVE. The hungering deep was the best update seen by everyone because it was the only update that encouraged players to NOT K.O.S., if you wanted to do the new world event you couldn't kill everyone you met anymore. You actually had to put your guns down and talk to other real people and not just prey on "content", "hot mics", PVE'ers, or "runners" or whatever term you come up with other than "people". Finally, hitreg only happens to people who are quick scoping (wonder who that can be, hmm), hacking is encouraged because of all the PVP, the only toxicity in the game is from the ones calling everyone else toxic for not wanting to be toxic, and by "stuff" I can only assume you are talking about the bottom of the toilet bowl player count SoT has had lately (again, I wonder why everyone that use to play the game doesn't anymore, hmm).

I can agree. Similar points were made over and over, but the only answer was: get over it. Now, the game is barren as was foretold, and every guy who wants to enjoy the game for what it provides, has to face people who want to hunt down those who do not specialize in PvP. For a long time, interaction with other players consisted of swearing and progress stalling. It was time-consuming and apparently people do not like, if their time gets disrespected.

Another idea is just to get good and learn pvp

@@SoTxHitregyou can‘t "learn" PvP if it‘s an unbalanced mess with horrible hit reg, lag/server problems in crossplay and toxic tryhards spamming insults all around you. Some people got a life.

@@SoTxHitreg Bro why would anyone want to learn PvP when the combat system is so ass it barely functions for PvE. If I want to play a shooter I'll go play Titanfall because it's consistent and you can learn & improve at it constantly. The skill ceiling is so high it's always able to feel fresh and interesting. Compared to SoT where the system is use 1 of the 4 weapons because only one works for PvP.

​@@SoTxHitregWhat a stupid comment.

@@SoTxHitreghere’s an idea, get a job and see how much time you have to “git gud” I get it kids like to call out of school nowadays but some of us have a life to actively work on, and not a useless skill from a dying game…

That would be a plus

Absolutely not. The best adventures stood out because they involved the greater efforts of the sea of thieves shared world. ‘Shrouded Deep’, ‘Lost Sands’, ‘A Hunters Cry’ and especially ‘Return of the damned’ just wouldn’t recapture the experience the same way with only one crew.

I don’t think safer seas would take too much time to make. The delay is definitely to do with Monkey Island taking time and resources away from developing guilds.

Likely due to no growth in gamepass subs

@@AShinyRay new players also mean more emporium sales. It’s now ‘try and squeeze as much cash out of the game’ before it’s left and support moves on. A sad end.

​@@bradygilbert9497thats howbit has been for a while, sew of thieves a game all about progressing to get cool cosmetics has a mtx shop wiyh more and better cosmetics than what we hsve ingame

I couldn't have explained it better myself. SoT with its mechanics and features makes it a top Sea-Faring game. But, as you said, it is strongly held back by it's PvP nature instead focusing on the PvE and getting immersed in all you can do in the game. Other games have the same problem, games such as: Rust Escape From Tarkov GTA Online Red Dead Online Albion Online The Isle Hunt: Showdown I stopped playing all of these for that same specific reason. Great games, great immersion, great mechanics and features, great sandbox, great maps, great atmosphere great open world. All ruined by the PvP...

This exactly, people are taking this at face value, when it’s exactly this, a preview, so we may be missing some info

Piracy out of place in a pirate game? Wtf are you on about..

@@sinkpissersupreme the games mechanics are not refined enough for a pvp experience. The game is far too janky to have a meaningful pvp experience worth a damn.

some commendations, such as the Chest of Fortune one one are designed with PVP in mind. Allowing you to do them alone makes their rewards far less valuable.

@@KekusMagnus Sure, but it hasn't been confirmed what, if any, world events are even going to be enabled on Safer Seas. There's no guarantee Rare will enable the commendations they specifically introduced to increase PvP in the Safer Seas, where as they have already confirmed that whole companies (Reapers and Athena's) WILL have theirs disabled. Would you feel the same way if the Chest of Fortune you collect on Safer Seas, assuming it has all world events, don't even count towards the Commendation progression?

Ah yes, cheapen people's accomplishments and call them losers for caring.

@@hoked2194 You can feel as accomplished as you want about your own achievements, but if you think that a video game making a commendation easier to get for others cheapens you getting it to the point you have to rage to strangers on the internet about it, you *are* a loser. Sorry you had to find out this way.

​@@hoked2194you literally are.

It's literally apart of the game, you rob people to take a risk to get extra loot

That's a curiously optimistic view. If fewer players are actually in the PvP servers though, wouldn't it be harder to find opponents in the first place?

I think there reason people are hating on the pve servers is now they can't grief new players. They will actually now have to fight others like themselves

@@Crystan You consider novice PVE players who aren't out for a fight opponents?

@@thesun5275 Not every fight HAS to be equal. Sometimes chasing or being chased is part of the fun. PvP isn't just engaging relentlessly in a broadside attack. PvP is best when it is contextual, if you have a huge hoard of loot being chased becomes a game of cat and mouse and you have several options to handle the situation, and finally securing the loot after an intense chase feels much better than just pressing r passively for 20 minutes. Or when you are out to hunt other players as reaper, setting up a sucessfull ambush takes time and skill and has it's risks. you could keg the ancored enemy ship instead of trying to broadside them wich may give you an insta sink, OR your own ship is fucked if they discover the keg attempt and blow up your keg before you leave your ship. PvP IS what's the game is mainly about, no amount of boring super easy PvE content will ever have enough satisfaction to keep a decent sized playerbase engaged, and people need to get off the high horse and accept that ambushes and unequal fights are part of the game. We are fighting for cosmetics not for "rank" or actual worthwhile loot afterall.

@@Crystan Well strictly speaking fewer players on the High Seas won't mean fewer players on the server you're actually in. It will be less servers (maps) running with the smaller amount still filled up, not less ships on the servers.

Agreed 100%. Sadly, this is a bit of a deal breaker for me as I put a lot of time and gold into that ship, not so that pvp sweats can see it and not care, but so that I can play with my friends on it and show off my shiny custom ship. There really is no reason for them not to allow it. It's not like it gives me any advantage and it's still possible to show it off.

It sounds like a free prievew for a game with how restrictive it is. Been looking at this game a while, hate the PvP aspect of it (have friends that played then quit because of the "kids" that play). The PvE restrictions go in a good direction but to restrictive for a new player.

@@Boonedale Then wait another 2-4 years ;) I'm in the same boat as you. I can wait another couple years for them to finally accepting that people just don't like the pvp aspect of the game and make so you can do everything on PvE as you can do on PvP servers.

This is a possibility, but it is somewhat the fault of the PvP players constantly dunking on (or trying to ) ship in sight. If PvP players chill a bit more after this update maybe some of the SS players will learn to enjoy playing the HS version more and more, when they are given a chance to fight back.

@@zarris2635 I don't really think it is anyone's fault. Everyone is entitled to play how they want. I guess the finger could be pointed at the more radical camps of PvPers and PvErs could. Like the Reapers that chase down and spawn camp new players while calling them racial slurs. Or the people on forums that complain and insist that any sort of sabotage or pirating is toxic and hateful.

Why not have skill based matchmaking?

Have a system like fortnite I hate the game but there skill based matchmaking system works the only flaw in it was sweats making new accounts because the games free

@@sammymcvay3913I play fortnite a good deal and can tell you personally its SBM is hot ass and is barely functional and also I feel like something like SBM just wouldn’t work for a game like SoT at all

Yes, and grind those commendations too 👊

Unfortunately very true. A lot of These people are saying the game is ruined, without realizing how mnay people they have ruined the game for. That they are the direct reason for this happening.

This guy gets it. We've seen this story played out time and again where the PvPers are a much smaller audience than they appear who actively drive off other players

Yeah, I do love the vibe of the game, and something does get lost when I take the fast paced gameplay of the crew because it's what keeps me from getting curbstomped.

that would cause all the pvp players to play on safer seas as well and TDM or Naval each other so that would take even more players away from the high seas i'm afraid

Well I also want to do full events without having to haggle over loot or be paranoid 24/7.

Nope. No caps. No nerfs. Same as high seas just no toxic morons.

not everyone who sinks you is toxic@@spankyjeffro5320

and the game is even deader now, plus no loot stackers on normal servers anymore

You’re a weeb

And how quickly will they be tired with what's available to them? That's not PVP and then quit the game altogether anyways

​Casuals don't care nearly as much. You just can't relate to people who don't take it so super serious.

@@magicpyroninjaI quit the game because of the pvp. I just like the aesthetic and story of the game. This way I can actually learn the lord and explore the sea shrines I never got to because I kept getting bombed away. Players like me that don’t like the pvp already will already not be playing, but I can at least enjoy a portion of the game.

@@magicpyroninja stop acting like your perspective is the only perspective. what about people who wants only pve? what about people who wants only pvpve? what about this what about that? not everything is about you jfc

My take: Sea of Thieves is a pirate game. Looting, shooting, robbing and stealing. If you get sunk then you learn from it

all those points are legit, and i really applaud you, unlike most other commenters, for not blaming the type of game you play, but your own preference, as you're not getting into the pvp (and i agree it is not easy to get into, because most of the fighting doesn't happen with mouse and keyboard, but simply with your brain). but sea of thieves is just so captivating simplay BECAUSE there might be someone intercepting you and your loot haul, and the feeling of turning in your loot while wyou were attacked, or stolen loot, there's simply nothing like it... so thank for not blaming the game, but yourself, which is totally legit, i don't hold it against anyone if they "don't get into it" but it's a part of the game, and is so for a great reason, all these commenters asking us to give up stealing, because they think it's toxic, is simply absurd

grab a keg, and torpedo whoever is chasing. Not that hard.

He's turned soft in his old age!

Let's hope that the "super" part of this season is improved hitreg and anticheat

I think most people would quit after that

@@azaritox2910 I sure would

They have said a lot of things to be fair.

@@grimenx I agree I think people who complain are too greedy. Yes seven months is a long time but we got the monkey island stuff. So think about how much that slowed development of season 10.

Go play Minecraft with creative mode mate

@@sirwhitemeat9785Agreed! this game really isnt worth playing at the moment, would rather play minecraft.

Uhm, all these things is a new game and not this game. If you play Monopoly and change nearly everything of rules and the game itself, it's not longer monopoly. We, you and I are free to buy THE game. If we don't like the rules and gameplay, we can ignore it. But everytime to force a game to change a game to a way that does not exist, is not right. If I made a game, I have a plan and a concept. You can buy it if you want it and if not, then not. It's up to you and not my Mission to build a game for someone.

Nope. Everything high seas has, just remove other players.

ask them politely? you ask thieves politely to not steal your stuff when it's a core mechanic of the game... this is why us experienced players don't want to hear about pve servers, because you think any interaction with players that you do not consent to is toxicity... it's not... as long as they don't throw slurs around or harrass you verbally or through text and they just play the game and sink you, steal all your stuff, nothing about that is toxic, you and people like you are just weak as hell and can't handle slight inconveniences... just bad all around... so no, they don't have to "take no for an answer"! we're thieves, we're gonna steal, and since you seem to be really bad at the game, you are the prey... nothing toxic about it, go play single player games instead if you can't handle being kileld or sunk fair and aquare in a freaking game.