@@marilynrayle9841 There were a handful of free blacks who fought in combat units for the Confederacy. There were 200,000 blacks who fought in combat units for the Union plus several hundred thousand more who voluntarily worked as laborers for the Union.
That myth is on a picture , on my wall .An the story behind it ,told to me when I was very young. The picture is of 5 horse mounted officers of the Missouri volunteer Army. Formed by citizens after the Yankees had burned thier crops an farms . 2 of those officers were Black men ,free farmers. I played as a child with the bones of Yankees remnants of clothing a weapons . The creek run red they say for 7 days . It was the first true battle of the civil war ....the show me people , whooped ass from day 1 ,an didn't stop whoopen tyrants asses for 12 years after Lee 's surrender. An trying to revise your history good luck with that .for the facts pass by an seem to be invisible to those fixed to ignorance .
Awesome.....so very true................Our government since before the War Between The States, was falling into corruption faster than anyone could ever imagine...then , since, or now
“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” - Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address, March of 1861 It is not wrong to fight for your home against invaders; and that entity which was founded through rebellion by slave owners like Washington and Jefferson as well as tolerating slavery in the slave states that remained in the Union (Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware) has no standing from which to judge the Confederacy. This was a time when the United Sates was still referred to as these United States. It was understood as a political union of sovereign states. Many had never even left their home state in their lifetimes. Our ancestors would have never agreed to enter this union if they knew it was a death pact from which they could never leave. “A political union can only exist, between independent political entities. Such was the Union constituted by the Constitution of the United States, “between the States” but this Union - a Union of independent political entities - a Union of free will and choice - is gone; and the connexion now existing themselves what were formerly States, is no Union at all; but is the operation of the different parts of a consolidated power, held together by fear and force.” - Robert Barnwell Rhett If there was a left wing secessionist movement a majority of liberals would probably support it. In a recent poll nearly half of California democrats support their state seceding even with a liberal president in office, one can safely assume that number will rise if a Republican, especially Trump, gets back in office. If a leftist state voted to leave most liberals would consider it legitimate regardless if other states approved of its secession. Any attempt to force them to stay or occupy military installations on their land would be viewed by them as an act of imperialism and a betrayal to the US’s supposed democratic values. And they would be correct. "The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: that men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals. No principle, that is possible to be named, can be more self-evidently false than this; or more self-evidently fatal to all political freedom. Yet it triumphed in the field, and now is assumed to be established. If it be really established, the number of slaves, instead of having been diminished by the war, has been greatly increased; for a man, thus subjected to a government that he does not want, is a slave. And there is no difference, in principle -but only in degree-between political and chattel slavery. The former, no less than the latter, denies a man's ownership of himself and the products of his labor; and asserts that other men may own him, and dispose of him and his property, for their uses, at their pleasure. Previous to the war, there were some grounds for saying that -in theory, at least if not in practice-our government was a free one; that it rested on consent. But nothing of that kind can be said now, if the principle on which the war was carried on by the North is irrevocably established." - Lysander Spooner, northern abolitionist A union that claims to rest on the democratic will of the people cannot legitimately force them to stay when they have democratically elected to leave that union. After the Civil War any claim that the US is a voluntary union that rules through the consent of the people is utterly hollow.
Please Stop 🛑🖐️ with the Neo Confederates Lost Causers propaganda!! You were not fighting invasion, you were fighting for the preservation of the institute of slavery. It was the Southerns seceded from the Union illegal and attack Federal armories and warehouses and arsenals and etc. Then the Southern States fired on Fort Sumter on April 12, 1861 at 4:30 am, the south were the aggressors. What you think the government wasn't going to retaliate against the south? You lost the war!! It's time for you Southerns except your lost.
There were a few hundred openly black Confederate soldiers (in 1865), but there were way more black sailors than there were soldiers, and there were more black militiamen than sailors (in 1861), there were more Army civilian musicians and cooks than militiamen, and there were WAY more free and enslaved black contractors working as teamsters, ambulance drivers, and laborers for the engineers, and there were A TON more camp slaves working as body servants than teamsters and ambulance drivers. A lot of black men saw battle and were incredibly resilient. This all makes them look so much better, like persevering underdogs, while it makes the Confederacy as a whole look way worse.
This is not history; this is political debate masquerading as history. A 'myth' means it didn't happen, not that it happened infrequently or that when it happened on a larger scale there were other influencing factors (e.g. loyalty, promise of freedom, etc.). Of course, it would hurt book sales and score less points with leftist social circles if he used the title, "Black Confederates - less common than some argue and frequently under mitigating influences." Hint: if your book title is an outright lie, everything else you write is highly suspect. Zealots like Levin are trashing history with their ideologically fueled garbage, denying readers and students the ability to learn history. In short, he's no different than Stalin's apparatchiks airbrushing photos to delete people from history. This museum should be ashamed to have given him a podium.
@@mastermonarch I don't think theres any use trying to be reasonable. The Black Confederate movement is demented and its proponents dont know how to judge or cross-check sources
The point of Levin’s book is that there were not officially enrolled black confederate combat troops who served in battle and that it’s a distortion of history to portray camp slaves which is what they were called at the time as if they were regarded as soldiers at the time in the confederate army. He proves this point. You’re the one still trying to distort history
@@walterbailey2950 talk about tenuous legalities -- "not officially enrolled," they don't count because they didn't fill out the 2940/2 form and it wasn't signed by the third sergeant? Not combat troops - so, accordingly to you, if one wasn't a combat soldier, they don't count? Do you only apply that definition to blacks in the South, or do all the blacks killed in subs and on ships in WW2 not count either because they were only mess stewards? Or maybe you're just singling out blacks for this special redefining of what it means to be a soldier - do soldiers of other races and ethnic backgrounds not count because they were cooks, radio operators, medics, or in one of hundreds of other non-combat roles? Sounds kind of racist of you. I'd suggest you make your argument about only combat troops being real soldiers to the unarmed medics who received the MOH, but they all died doing their duty, even though they weren't combat troops.
@@TXGRunner It’s not a tenuous legality if someone is explicitly stating a falsehood that they were considered combat troops when they officially were barred by law from serving in that role. It’s not a tenuous legality to point out that the original writings from the time where their masters and other white soldiers referred only to these people as slaves or, after the war, as former slaves, When someone states falsely and without evidence that those same people actually called them soldiers at the time. It’s simply calling you on a lie.
Sir we did not have or own slaves!!!!! How dare you say that untruth!!! My folks never gained from slavery!!!!!!!!!!!!! We seen slavers as lazy do nothings and peacocks!!!!!!!!!!! They killed the so called little man you the common farmers. That's us Amen !!!!!!!!!!!
@ 7:00 - we also can't agree on how many women served as Yankee soldiers during the war, but that doesn't mean that women did not serve as such. - @ 9:00 Mr. Levin, bless his heart, can't even keep his names straight and this after "ten years of looking at this photo." I am sorry, Kevin, but it is Silas Chandler who is seated on the right, with Andrew Chandler seated to the left. Now to be fair, it could be that you were viewing this arrangement from the perspective of Andrew Chandler himself, and if so, then indeed, Silas would be seated on HIS left. I am sorry, Mr. Levin, but only nine minutes into this video, you have destroyed any credibility that you might have had with this particular audience. I wish you good luck in selling your book.
He literally says "Silas on the right, Andrew on the left". And disguising yourself as a white man when you're a white woman is realistic since you're wearing pants and shirts. Do you honestly think a slave could "sneak into the army"? Did they paint their hands and faces white and somehow weren't recognized?
If a historian could destroy all of their research credibility just by a simple misstatement we wouldn’t have any historians with any credibility or anyone alive with any credibility for that matter. You sound desperate
@@guidototh6091 True. Only a few thousand Blacks fought with the Confederacy, a small percentage, maybe no more than 5,000 or so. Most were not officially soldiers. Most were slaves.
@@guidototh6091 Blacks who fought for the Union were not treated as equals. They were not paid the same. They were usually not respected by the US Army, who didn't want them in the first place. Lincoln forced the US Army to accept Black soldiers.
@@craigthompson3739 They were initially paid less but an act of Congress in 1864 resulted in equal pay. Racism still held sway in the Union Army of course but many white soldiers who served with black units had a very high opinion of them.
have you considered the possibility that its low view count can be explained by the tens of thousands of documents from people at all levels of society on both sides from before & after the war that prove the factual inaccuracy and reckless idiocy of the man speaking in this video?
@@j.lebowski3917 Southerners were defending their homes from an invading army. If people came here and invaded America, we would have to fight. There are many dead confederate soldiers in the cemeteries here in the South.
@@j.lebowski3917 I put the video of Black Confederates on here. You just seem like someone that wants to hate white people.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1HrqwJqisCc.html
@@j.lebowski3917 MYTH - Only the North had men of color in their ranks. FACT - Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South. Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.
"They didn't say that, or they didn't know what they were saying, or they only said it because they had to, or anything else in order for how I feel to be valid, I won't read the Primary Sources that talk of people who missed their masters and hated the Yankees half a century after the Civil War, isn't any need for an honest and nuanced understanding."
THE HATE IS REAL “MYTH” sheesh NO RESPECT AT ALL…… WELL THAT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME AT ALL SEEING ALL THE VETERANS N HOMELESS SLEEPING ON OUR STREETS …..YOUR NARRATIVE IS SICK 😤
A lot of this sounds like a guessing game. There were freed blacks that fought in the war, many were considered Indians or Natives. There were 80 thousand free blacks in that war. In my humble opinion this researcher is confusing slaves with free men and adding his own psuedo science racist twist to it. Anyone from the South would know
@@j.lebowski3917 I found it in an old text book... its debateable considering the freed slaves did not fight. However, blacks born free are a different story. I will try to find the source. However, race was not the same as today back then...many who were considered black and white were actually indian and even some of those considered black today, were considered white back then. The history books are corrupted and todays history lessons are a reflection of individuals who don't know the history of the south. hell, some texts say 13,000 mexicans, the scottish, irish, Native Americans and free blacks too.
@@j.lebowski3917 there was the head of indian affairs who was rewriting confederate history at that time also and he did so for twenty years. in 1979 there was another movement to remove african indian mixes from the books. the problem with the history of the black confederates are they are confusing us with freed slaves. There were thousands upon thousands of free blacks who were never slaves in the south. many, like myself, were indian. did you know that? or did they hide that history too
Timothy McSwain Were is your sources to disprove this man? Were you there when he did his research on this book 📖? You Lost Causer/ Neo Confederate weirdoooo.
Pure Yankee revisionist history from someone that clearly has never been a soldier and doesn't understand the South or the reasons for the war or its social relationships.
Cliff Page The reason for the war was the South wanted to expand Slavery into the new territories and into the free states. Your Neo Confederate Lost Causers History is pure revisionist history, and told fiction. There was no African Americans serving in the Confederate Army, they were body servant's and Teamsters, cooks, and clean clothing and etc.
I agree. White people were also slaves. It was lots of white people. History never told people about that. There were black confederate heroes also. Slavery has been going on for a long time. It still goes on today.
This man J. Lebowski is not going to listen to anything anyone says. He just wants to believe that the North was wonderful and that only blacks were ever slaves. It does no good to talk to him.
@@marilynrayle9841 Okay stop there!! There are NO African Americans Confederate Soldiers serving the Confederacy, this is a myth that been debunked by creditable historians. The only role enslaved people had in the Confederate Army is a Body servants labors, and cooks, laundry, Teamsters, and etc. Slavery has been dead since 1865,when the Confederate Army and Navy and government collapse.
napolean hawks, wells j hawks, stone wall jackson, ely parker, all ancestors james. you don't understand american history because you have blinders on. wells j hawks is mixed. so were many other soldiers. half native american, half white royal. besides ely parker... the black confederates were dark skinned indians. like myself. and mixes with whites, usually of plantagenet bloodlines. and fu on the spelling, i have 3 masters degrees. spell check can wait.
and we were NOT considered black before the civil war, so you are still talking about free african americans in the 11 percent. many natives were relabeled BLACK AFTER the civil war and were INDIAN or NATIVE beforehand.
gen patton, abraham lincoln, george washington... ancestors and i can go on. you don't understand the colony of virginia or colonial america because you didnt get that lesson
There were black confederate cavalry scouts from Mississippi that US Grant himself described as a swarm of yellow jackets stinging his every move on his march through the south
@@craigthompson3739 No African Americans served as Cooks Teamsters Body Servants and Labors in the Confederate Army or the Navy none served in combat!! This is a myth.
@@jamesrichardson3322 Please do critical research. It's really not that difficult to find. Facts are facts. The world is complicated and refuses to fit simple mental constructs.
@@craigthompson3739 This untrue White plantation owners were the major owners of slaves in America in the 19th. There was NO enslaved man served in the Confederacy Army, but as said before they served as Cooks Teamsters Body Servants and Labors and Hospital Stewart's, etc. African Americans serving in the ranks of the C.S.A. Army is a myth. The institute of slavery was horrible and evil, and the enslaved people long to be free. Lincoln and the Administration, and the Federal Army help set them free from bondage.
