Season 22 NEW Battle Pass Is A SCAM!

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Season 22 Battle Pass Details Revealed! Apex Legends News. Apex Leaks.
Season 22 of Apex Legends, known as "Shockwave" will be releasing soon, and Apex Legends has let us know that new updates are coming to the Battle Pass.
Beginning in Season 22 of Apex Legends, a Battle Pass will be available per split, meaning there will be 2 Battle Passes per Season.
In order to earn the Reactive Weapon Skins, you will need to hit Level 60 in the Battle Pass instead of Level 110.
Additional rewards, such as more Apex Coins, Apex Packs, Exotic Shards, Crafting Metals, Legendary Skins, and so much more are coming in the reworked Battle Pass, but unfortunately, you cannot use Apex Coins to unlock these Battle Passes!
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0:00 - Intro
0:21 - Season 22 Battle Pass Upgrade Details
1:23 - New Battle Pass VS Old Battle Pass
2:27 - Tracker Changes
3:14 - Premium Battle Pass Price
4:04 - Is The New Battle Pass Good Or Bad?
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@RossTheeSquirrel 17 дней назад

What do you think about the new Battle Pass changes coming in Season 22: Shockwave?

@dixiestix2197 17 дней назад

EA's farming money before the game dies. All there is to it

@DieguitoGamer4341 17 дней назад

Why EA 😢

@silviocavric2275 17 дней назад

no please no no

@ThomasSauer-bs4uh 17 дней назад

Bro this sucks

@Thecraftlandsofficial 17 дней назад

At least everyone can get it for free (primium pass) for some challenges.

@Acidthoth 17 дней назад

This is the most EA thing ever lmao

@vikrantkataria 16 дней назад

I am surprised how they managed to resist doing this for this long. 😂

@JellyDude455 17 дней назад

Apex is going to have their biggest player count drop in history

@x8Ghostyx 17 дней назад

Yeah just like this season, now s22 gonna make it drop even more 💀

@TheN2pster 17 дней назад

Highly doubt that there's going to be big player count drop when there's new map and new weapon lol. Month or two into then perhaps. Either way i don't care, i play for game not skins.

@ndrain37 17 дней назад

@@TheN2pstercoming from a sweat standpoint I see your point, but this clearly doesn’t scream “ NEW PLAYERS COME PLAY OUR GAME” lmao

@TheN2pster 17 дней назад

@@ndrain37 Well let's be honest apex has not been new player friendly in like 15 seasons. I don't really give a sht about skins or prices, i care about content in game, mm, cheaters etc. But it does suck from having all bp's completed since S01 and now i won't be buying anymore. Either way calling game dead over this is pretty big reach imo.

@thamerkules8081 17 дней назад

Over a battle pass? Yall really play for a BP? Good riddance. If ur looking to play a game for fun apex is not the game for u lol it's1 of the most stressful game 😅

@lllllillllllllillll 17 дней назад

Urging everyone to NOT purchase the battle pass. Give it a miss next season, hit them where it hurts - their pockets & they’ll undo this.

@jonathanyew8217 16 дней назад

just delete the games all together, if they care about their players they will atleast revert or make some changes

@euqinemor 16 дней назад

just do not play the game for the first half and see their plans crumble, so even if the whales get those pass the player drop count weill be a huge hit to the game as a whole and even the whales would experience longer quee timers. You might also just enjoy another game for the duration or touch grass, it's your choice but not playing the game will hit where it hurts.

@Tesixx_ 17 дней назад

RIP Apex fr😢

@RossTheeSquirrel 17 дней назад

This hurts to see :(

@dixiestix2197 17 дней назад

Well time to uninstall. Literally the only thing keeping me on the game is the battle pass Edit: its not that deep y'all. Obviously I enjoy the gameplay to an extent, its just not enough to outweigh the current problems with the game. Unlocking skins and completing challenges is part of how I enjoy the game

@springbonnieflix3798 17 дней назад

Lol same

@aliyt7855 17 дней назад

@@dixiestix2197exactly

@ngf5077 17 дней назад

That’s utterly depressing and you should seek help. Normal people play games because they enjoy the gameplay.

@Somebody62780 17 дней назад

Same tbh

@udiedtoakid433 17 дней назад

It’s js a battle pass it’s optional and not a big deal and if you only play for that something’s wrong

@miisotrash 17 дней назад

Time to quit Apex everyone

@gigggioj8869 17 дней назад

@@miisotrash no I’m keep playing

@faceless1123 17 дней назад

Yup

@causthicc6227 17 дней назад

@@miisotrash I'm with you, who else?

@talatokmirzaev1338 17 дней назад

Ok. leave game. Less server load from freebie lovers

@TheOneWhoKnocks99 16 дней назад

@@miisotrash already deleted this shit game

@LiptonikPL 17 дней назад

Casual gamers had at least some little motivation to play purely because of battle pass and completing it to gain reactive skin. Now no one aside from whales is gonna pull out 40$ every season for battle pass. They'll make the playersbase shrink even more. No new players in Apex is already a huge deal, literally only sweats in my pub games, now it will be even worse.

@Zencho639 17 дней назад

What do you mean with wheals on apex?

@oliverv7552 16 дней назад

@@Zencho639whales are people in games who spend ludicrous amounts of money on everything they can I think

@GenesMode 16 дней назад

$20 per season, not $40. But yeah I haven’t paid for a battle pass in like 14 seasons so this is such a let down. Guess I’ll just have to play without it haha

@Smollboii10 16 дней назад

@@Zencho639 you know whales the person who keep get scammed by EA bcs they got smooth brain since birth

@LiptonikPL 16 дней назад

@@GenesMode sorry my fault, still 20$ per season is huge deal. You could literally buy the first battle pass in season 1 for 10$ and have every next battle pass for free without spending any more money (unless you've spend your coins from battle pass)

@ReptilesXtremeGaming 17 дней назад

Apex is trashing itself

@phdfloppa7178 15 дней назад

"Our game is dying i know what will save our game, our players love spending money let's make them pay more money"

@FergieTheTaurus 17 дней назад

EA = Mr. Krabs

@x8Ghostyx 17 дней назад

S20: ruined by cheaters and bugs S21: ruined by cheaters and duos being removed the whole season S22: ruined by new battle pass and more cheaters and bugs

@meganmortimer9544 16 дней назад

Duos being gone was really frustrating for me

@DieguitoGamer4341 17 дней назад

Upgrade? Downgrade

@itzlukas4559 17 дней назад

@@DieguitoGamer4341 down Times infinite

@astrobaconyt 17 дней назад

But doesn’t that defeat the whole point of a battle pass..

@x8Ghostyx 17 дней назад

It's called money pass now, since you can't buy it with coins, and don't forget there's 2 😂😂

@ApexAshEnjoyer 17 дней назад

@@x8Ghostyx what are you talking about bro. Have you seen Fortnite’s battlepass? A lot of games have battle passes that cost money instead of in game currency. It’s not even a problem, they even made it better for free to play players.

@FluuziEnt 17 дней назад

@@ApexAshEnjoyer Fortnite’s battle pass comes with vbucks you can totally unlock the next seasons by finishing it.

@ApexAshEnjoyer 16 дней назад

@@FluuziEnt im not sure if im tripping or not but my friend tried gifting me the battle pass with v bucks and it didn’t work.

@uuuuuu317 16 дней назад

@@ApexAshEnjoyer that’s gifting, but if you buy and finish the battle pass, you’ll be able to unlock the next one with the vbucks you have.

@woozyguy9 17 дней назад

My friends finally convince me to play this game 2 weeks ago, I've actually been having fun, fun enough I bought my first battle pass 2 days ago.. then this drops... great first impression Respawn/EA.. I'm gonna have to pass..

@Jeremy-bt8lo 13 дней назад

@@woozyguy9 Good don’t spend money on this game. I regret every dollar I spent even though I played this game for a year. It’s not worth it.

@FoxPerfectionxd 17 дней назад

Clancy from Resident evil 7: "I'm not eating it. It smells like shit!"

@xalonetv6399 17 дней назад

Yup apex messed up. They wont be seeing me buy the passes now😊

@iXyillo 17 дней назад

The worst change ever

@princemidus8211 17 дней назад

Lmfaoooooo guess I’m not getting any more battle passes, $20 every few months adds up, probably $100 a year for battle passes for purely cosmetic stuff

@KevinZePanda 17 дней назад

they do realize that now everyone who doesn't want to pay 40 dollars per season will now not even have a slight incentive to play as they'll have nothing to grind for. With ranked being cheater filled, what's there to progress

@Kopy_. 17 дней назад

The pricing of stuff in this game was already laughable compared to something like Epic’s Fortnite but after this I’ll just delete the game. It’s honestly sad that the game is dieing so fast they had to pull something like this 😂

@NinjarioPicmin 17 дней назад

the worst thing is that even after saving up a lot of apex coins you just CAN'T USE THEM anymore for any of this since it has to be explicitly irl currentcy. if we could cache out all the apex coins in the account right now and not going forward at least, but no it's all worthless now except for using for explicitly overpriced skins

@apollo12121 17 дней назад

The whole point of being able to continuously earn the the battle pass every season by grinding the season is so that the game keeps player retention. This is a terrible idea for the game no matter what type of player you are. No doubt this will further decrease the player base.

@Charles01343 17 дней назад

Maybe we should mass uninstall apex as act of protest…. To make battlepass cheaper like fortnitr

@x8Ghostyx 17 дней назад

Good idea, but it would never work unless most of the playerbase does 😭

@Spooshball 17 дней назад

I'm uninstall next season. I can't support these business pratices

@user-fi8uc9gb2t 15 дней назад

The game is getting review bombed on steam, it may not do much but definitely shows peoples dissatisfaction even though S22 is still 4ish weeks away.

@banana_Asriel 12 дней назад

@@Charles01343 that will just get the game shut down

@Ranieery 17 дней назад

Well, goodbye Apex, thank you for the great times.

@ch7e524 17 дней назад

This is BS. If they want to make things right while keeping this double battle pass idea, they've gotta make the premium one cost 950 Apex Coins or $9.99 (giving us the option). For the premium plus (the additional one), we have to pay $9.99 in case of having the premium battle pass, or $19.99 in case of wanting both while not having the premium one. They will benefit from this rather than losing the player count because most people who are still playing are like me, just grinding the battle pass every season, which makes me play with friends, etc...

@ShockinglyAverageApex 17 дней назад

Holy shit, this game has truly became the joke that everybody has been calling it for years 😂

@kjellvb1979 17 дней назад

I'm out if they stick to this.

@turdbird-jrogers 13 дней назад

Im still confused about irl currency. I already use cashapp to buy through in game on my ps5

@jelaninoel 7 дней назад

So what happens to my apex coins i got this season. What do you use them for now?

@ThomasSauer-bs4uh 17 дней назад

Bro what is ea thinking this is gonna kill the game unless you can get it free every time the games gonna die even faster

@Redhood29 17 дней назад

As long one of the reactive skin in the split battle pass I won’t spend for another battle pass in the same season that just dumb asf

@nikoskailo9500 16 дней назад

If people stop paying them until they get serious and fix the game probably they will wake up.....

@joseandresgonzalez7258 17 дней назад

Never playing this game again, EA just milkin' the game at this point

@talatokmirzaev1338 17 дней назад

Bro. in video play with skin which cost 7$. but 10$ for good BP with 2400 CM and 1300 coins its bad thing?

@KittyAddict 16 дней назад

None of the videos specified what it means that you only can play all legends if you have premium plus BP. Like even I unlocked all legends I have to pay to be able to choose among them ???

@it_punkkid7298 16 дней назад

Since they changed stuff now people are going to carefully like decide on what battle pass to get and stuff and if it worth getting

@ankle_sprain 17 дней назад

they missed the mark here

@pierreh1052 17 дней назад

Yeah I just got season 21 battle pass because I thought I could get the next one for free, just start the game too 😭 I probably won’t play anymore it worth supporting something like this

@yesodplay5830 17 дней назад

just how kill your game in one day and lose all

@MidasTouch123_psn 16 дней назад

What if we pulled a Hell Diver move and bomb the start of their new season?

@user-fi8uc9gb2t 15 дней назад

It’s already happening on steam now even though S22 hasn’t started yet 😂

@punchyman 17 дней назад

Newcastle never got his own personal stats banners

@daanishtaaseen2507 16 дней назад

I just play untill i m done with the battlepass and move to any other game but now i guess thats it for me, no reason to keep playing on weekdays.

@dmc_faternity 16 дней назад

So now i can't even keep my 950 apex anymore and the premium isn't as good..why did i even buy the battle pass man...😢

@DGDR123 17 дней назад

Not sure I understand why specific legend trackers stats can go on other legends…….

@springbonnieflix3798 17 дней назад

Next season might be my last season bc of the free 1 we cqn get other wise i might stop playing i hate the not using coins im just a young adult move out soon aftwr next school yr i dont have job atm and if i did im not buying irl money battle passes i would rather pay my taxes and rental and buy whole new games that will give me enjoyment

@SpgtVgbnd 17 дней назад

I thought they already earn shit ton money on this game?? Now they gotta do this.

@BobIsGreater 17 дней назад

If we just don't buy it apex might just realize that we fucken hate it

@Smollboii10 16 дней назад

Play the game and don't buy stuff from their store

@BobIsGreater 16 дней назад

@@Smollboii10 yep

@DNDBando 17 дней назад

Does That Mean We Got The Same Rewards from the Split 1 battle pass in the Split 2 playoffs? Or that's all the rewards for both battlepass combined?

@darthravager 17 дней назад

I believe you'll get double the rewards with double the price you normally would with the old battle pass no matter if you get the free or premium version, say you play apex season 22 (if you're insane enough) and pay 20 dollars for the premium version for the season you'll get 2600 apex coins, 4800 crafting metals, 20 exotic shards, 40 apex packs including 6 thematic packs, 4 legendary character skins, 2 legendary weapon skins, and 2 reactive weapon skins within a total of 120 levels. The idea of the new battle pass is great in my opinion, but the only problem is you can't save apex coins anymore for the next battle pass, and I agree, it does piss everyone including me off, but how often do we actually use rare items in the battle pass? Im glad Respawn has taken the decision to cut back massively on rare items in the battle pass so the battle pass could be more worth it, but it's your money, you decide how you spend it on the depression simulator that is Apex Legends

@DNDBando 17 дней назад

@@darthravager to me that seems worth it if your getting 2,600 and 4,800 and 40 packs all for $20 seems like steal in my opinion

@DNDBando 17 дней назад

@@darthravager that's for the $10 premium one right not the $20 premium+

@lgkoo9155 17 дней назад

@@DNDBando it sounds like a steal, but remember that every battle pass could've been free (as long as you've bought **one** bp ever). Also you still need to play the game and work through all 120 levels to gain the 'premium' rewards

@DNDBando 17 дней назад

@@lgkoo9155 I understand that but if your getting 2,600 coins basically u buying $20 worth of coins plus u get 30-40 packs for free

@lombardo141 17 дней назад

lol. I knew it was only a matter of time. I have not paid for a battle pass since season 2. 😂

@uuuuuu317 16 дней назад

I understand that but like…couldn’t you just use apex coins to buy all the way up to season 21? I’m just glad I got as many limit cosmetics as I could before this shit.

@ADMICKEY 14 дней назад

@@uuuuuu317Was busy playing other games

@chuckstacy 16 дней назад

What are the apex coins used for now? Ive been saving since launch 🤣

@zeddestroyer 16 дней назад

I work too much and struggle completely current bps. Two sounds even more of a time crunch. Imo It’s on me tho of course

@MarkusFortius 17 дней назад

They constantly trying to improve monetization, what a lads! Oh wait, what about the game?! Hello?

@user-nt9pn2pn4j 16 дней назад

i uninstalled the game a month or two back bc i jut wasn’t playing it much, but i just redownloaded it last night bc i wanted too play, but honestly hearing the changes too the battle pass this makes me wanna just uninstall it again, i’m not seeing a point too play

@dj_trist 17 дней назад

taking a break from ranked next season. not worth my mental health anymore and worrying about what rank i get. this bp is such a downgrade. how greedy can EA get? 😤😑

@user-fi8uc9gb2t 15 дней назад

They always somehow are able to find a new low…

@skorz7889 17 дней назад

Well I guess I’m never getting the battle pass again

@12reasonns 16 дней назад

I forgot apex existed and now i see why😂😂

@laurynasradzevicius9454 17 дней назад

Uninstalled Apex after S21 hit and this just solidifies my decision even more.

@Arise772 17 дней назад

Can't unlock with Apex Coins?? 🤨

@RossTheeSquirrel 17 дней назад

Nope :(

@SoComplex_ 17 дней назад

Should have just kept it so you could buy it with coins, even worse version of blackcell

@Wildboy0420 16 дней назад

So either spend 20$ or dont play is wild 😅

@pennali8854 17 дней назад

I was just thinking of how i like apex over other games because of its ability to get the battlepass for free if you were dedicated. other games like rocket league dont do that and i dont see the point in playing a game where you dont get good rewards for playing. probably gonna dwell on uninstalling now

@Sk8.hc08 16 дней назад

I'm so pissed because I just started getting back into Apex

@cobiespd1 17 дней назад

I only mind if I have tow Pay for both battle pass per split. If buying the premium gets me the season battle pass, so both splits then I don't mind. Irs just the same shit but reworked a bit. But If I have to pay 10 for each one then they're crazy

@YourBSM 17 дней назад

It's kinda dumb to waste real money when you could just grind previous season battle pass for next season battle pass, without purchasing in game currency again. R.I.P to your money you could have spent on something that actually is worth buying

@JLONess 16 дней назад

Don’t buy like the pk reactive! That the only thing we can do to reverse this

@lazyslayer1583 16 дней назад

I'm a day one player and i feel the same... only thing keeps me going is the battle pass now with that gone.. i just want to try something different than apex

@ADMICKEY 14 дней назад

Fortnite (mutiverse), Terraria, Aco2(map game), For Honor(medieval) and universe sandbox (space game)

@thxyou6662 16 дней назад

I do love on this world how we prioritise money over survival or actually keeping anything great and for cosmetics man you must have a very small small something to worry about something that has no priority in your game and for a skin for a character that you don't get to see because it's first person

@Ja1sc3L113r 16 дней назад

When you drop in you see it, and when you do finishes, you see them. I understand the pros just shoot people to finish them off, but I consider that a waste of ammo. Sure, I may die in the middle of an animation, but not only do I get to see that new badass (to me) skin I spent good money on, but there is something so satisfying about watching Ash "decapitate" Horizon... Of all the Legends that catch hate, I hear more people complain about Horizon than any other. And I have my own complaints. So yeah, I will risk dying just to decapitate a side-stepping, tac spewing, batt popping legend that seems to have a smaller hitbox than even Lifeline. And also, I just absolutley love snaring Octanes that just stimmed, dropping them, and finishing them off too. But again. That's me.

@thxyou6662 15 дней назад

@@Ja1sc3L113r yeah but I don't do cosmetics end of the day I've got where it counts I don't think flashy things make me look good but each to the own pointless decisions on buying worthless items instead of food clothing electric and maybe elsewhere

@jc008titan 17 дней назад

bro i got the battle pass just that i would get the next one for free... wtf this

@Sk8.hc08 16 дней назад

Good thing I didn't buy it

@jc008titan 16 дней назад

@@Sk8.hc08 the fact that it's the only battle pass i bought makes it even worse but anyway, i got a nice crypto skin

@Sk8.hc08 16 дней назад

@@jc008titan I want a fresh FPS game to come, new company and everything, transactions are still there but definitely minimized, like instead of $18 for a skin it's like 1-3$ depending on rarity, $10 for a recyclable battle pass, but we know how greedy companies are nowadays and that's extremely unlikely

@CARSONCrockett-sj5xv 17 дней назад

these new changes are egregious and I am incredibly repulsed by them

@itz_pishi2535 16 дней назад

i unistall game there is no more thing i try to play this hell 😢 edit: imagine paying more and getting more low staff 😂😢

@LEVEL.9999 16 дней назад

It's like taking the life of your own child using your bare hands .. good luck RESPAWN

@c1ZEY 16 дней назад

I quit when they started releasing universal heirlooms and scam event collections since i knew it was going downhill, and damn i was right

@alexbevan2183 16 дней назад

Right, we all know what to do! If we as a community don't spend the cash then respawn & EA will see that the system needs reverting just like when they released the peacekeeper recolour for cash.

@xaan7458 16 дней назад

I dont even buy the bp's but im still mad about it

@dunconnel1180 15 дней назад

Ridiculous there are player out here that come from a different country where 10$ is like worth 2 week's pay😫😫

@NorwayHDMapping-official 14 дней назад

I had some break from apex and first thing i see is ea's capitalistic crap

@liamcollett4537 16 дней назад

But our money isn't just paying for a battle pass, it's also funding seasonal content and changes. Are we going to get more content and updates per season now? We are paying double per season now after all

@sixarmedpsycho_9 16 дней назад

Apex is really shooting themselves in the foot.

@pinkplasticlag 17 дней назад

This is so bad. I've been playing like 2 years, I have a few heirlooms and a few skins. I hope it's a one and done thing with all the negative feedback but they probably won't do that. Is it time to uninstall?

@Vigorating 16 дней назад

If you are playing a game purely for the battlepass you need to takw a step back

@palomao8949 17 дней назад

NO ONE BUT THIS PLEASE SO THEY CHANGE BACK. Like dude what was wrong with the old one. They know this is unnecessary but just want to see how much they can get away with to get more money.

@mr.e5866 15 дней назад

Best part about a battle pass is that you only have to buy it once and can buy the next one with the currency that you got from the first one. Take that away and it isn’t worth it anymore

@arcane8352 17 дней назад

massive BP upgrade = massive scam upgrade

@TheChrisLouis 17 дней назад

N Bomb... Come on. Anyways i think i hit level 50 on the battle pass this season? Ive played and completed every season since the first one, but have lost interest because of the state of the game. Also Battle pass was supremely mid. Think I will play that first split and then ignore the second half when August comes. I know people have FOMO and whatnot but I have learned to simply not care especially when trashy practices like this come about.

@wickedpenguin88 17 дней назад

The only reason to even think about getting the new battlepass is if you want to obtain shards. Shards themselves cost like 10 bucks for 10 so you can think of it like buying those and getting everything else for free in the pass. But i dont see my self wanting really any of those because i dont even have a katar to upgrade. Pretty scummy, dont really like this new way the pass is going.

@surianna301 16 дней назад

Apex is the fire giant and ea just broke its ankle brace

@scourgathehedgehog4132 17 дней назад

Someone better be dying for this

@Wildboy0420 16 дней назад

The first descendant

@lukassalota1269 16 дней назад

To be continued: apex legends subscription.

@Antimonious 16 дней назад

To all the players who are going to quit, play The Finals!!! It has tons of movement and the cosmetics are infinitely better!

@ItzzMurkk 14 дней назад

Man I’m a day 1 player too. And I completely understand the grind of hitting 110 to get the next BP without having to drop ya card on a purchase. So these changes are kinda fucky. And I don’t like it but at the same time I do cause they’re at least giving us more bang for our buck ya know? Instead of generic stuff nobody really uses they’re taking the opportunity to give us a lot more this time around. Idk I might buy the premium+ just to see what’s up. But if I don’t vibe w the season ima drop the game fr cause EA is going too far smh

@BanditApex 14 дней назад

@@ItzzMurkk yeah this sum bs cs the best part about battle passes is you only gotta buy it once and grind every season this shits stupid

@Conversion108 17 дней назад

these little craps of publishers there's no way they are charging 20$ a season for battle passes

@jpineapple9495 17 дней назад

i like your accent... is it from Wisconsin or canada?

@thaddperkins 16 дней назад

Yep! I’m out. I hate to see this happen to Respawn but this is indicative of a larger problem with EA. Who tf splits a battle pass and charges for both??!

@farrenzz8140 17 дней назад

Are we getting free BP for 2 splits or only for 1?

@RossTheeSquirrel 17 дней назад

@talatokmirzaev1338 17 дней назад

@@RossTheeSquirrel 2

@talatokmirzaev1338 17 дней назад

You get 2 free BP per split. With current free BP you get 200 coins and 7 packs for season. In new free BP you get 400 coins and 14 packs for season. and 2 epic skins too.

@AnsonVTo 17 дней назад

Well, EA is doing EAs things

@ethanfleming5049 17 дней назад

I honestly don’t see the point of this change I lowkey just buy the whole battle pass or if I’m feeling like it I’ll grind it but tf is the point of having two 💀