Season 3 of Bridgerton was weird... 

RIGHT? thank you i thought i was going crazy because nobody else has mentioned that. when whats his face asked him what his deal was and he went "idk" i wanted to throw something. YOU LITERALLY WENT TO ART SCHOOL BENEDICT!

I was so confused at this as well??? I was like "Don't you like painting? What was that whole ordeal in previous seasons for then?"

TRUE

I was really disappointed he didn't decide to stay in art school and help less fortunate artists have their chance (like the ladies who weren't allowed in the lectures unless they were modeling -- that was very interesting).

Yep. Pretty much a hot mess all the way around.

This!

OMG yes! The press tour was delightful and then where did it all go on screen? Why are you all gorping with slack jaws? (Seriously, close your mouths sometimes). Where is the demonstration of these two being close friends for years? The show runners can't say "you've had two seasons of build up" as those scenes were also not present from the start. I'm so frustrated at this season, there were some delightful things, but even those had to be stomped over. I loved the Bridgerton brothers and John going out together and showing some healthy male interactions. Especially in contrast with the awful ones with Colin and co before he starts courting Pen. The whole "quiet love" with Francesca was beautiful, until they crapped on it with the last episode (I'll not spoil for people who don't know book stuff. But foreshadowing). I'm here for Bi Benedict, but don't whirl in with the storyline mid-season and then whirl back out again just as quickly, let it breathe a bit. Sheesh. Poor Debling didn't even get a send off. I quite liked him.

F A C T S !

Yes! They were so unbelievable as a couple but their press tour was delightful!

@@hazardsigns I don't think the show has ever done a great job with showing the love between their central couples. I did not care for Simon and Daphne. The actors are what made Kate and Anthony work for me, while the writing undercut them over and over in season 2. And Colin and Penelope just felt forced. I didn't like that Colin needed to have the equivalent of the Marvel Male Makeover to fit more of the "hunky" type - it just felt like they were admitting they'd never given him enough of a personality. Penelope was more interesting in her Lady Whistledown machinations and friendship with Eloise.

yes she could travel w him!

This !!! They were perfect for one another . She is a beautiful but she's also like a wounded animal. His empathetic nature , would have sniffed that out . Him traveling would give her the healing time needed . While their fondness could have grown via letters . All those opportunities lost . Plus , both would make wonderful parents . He has a good dad , nature . While Cressida definitely would love a child for themselves alone . Cressida , would work at ending her family trauma .

I agree Cressida deserved better. Yes she did shitty stuff, but she is all alone in the world and really needs to get away from her trash family. And now she is send to her awefull aunt.

I hope something positive happens for Cressida. She is a desperate woman, who doesn’t deserve the punishment of the rest of her entire life with her Aunt. Maybe she’ll meet a man a little below her station and have true love. ( a lawyer, a doctor etc.)

Right! I was thinking the same thing

I agree. I'm a massive fan of John and Fran..so sad that they threw the cousin in after they had just married.

She literally loves John so much she doesn’t think she can marry and be happy. She only marries to have a child. So how is that supposed to work? I hate this change.

I'm not happy with the changes just to be so-called inclusive of sexual identity. Making it look like Francesca is suddenly attracted to another woman (or the unnecessary scenes with Benedict and the threesome) ruins the whole charm of the show, in my opinion.

​@estherramos5939 I was ok with one short scene but there were multiple... it was to much and unneeded

@@firalove529 yeah, I thought Michaela was there to fight with Eloise. Shucks. Love doesn’t always have to be fireworks. Fran couldn’t really talk to John Stirling either at first. Why is it it always about sex. T’is oversexed, I fear. I loved Pen’s speech at the end. It was a blink and miss moment. The threesomes of the horny Bridgerton boys lasted longer than the great banter throughout. I honestly thought Michaela was a troublemaker type. Not sure this will play out. Things seem to be getting a bit messy and overwhelming weird. See Cressida’s outfit.

The gossip paper was important for the queen herself. It was a major exception.

@@beatrizmedeirosnoleto9391 Fair enough.

Which was also ridiculous . Historically most gentlemen's club in the UK were owned by noble men. Sure, him working behind the bar would be scorned upon but owning the place? Not at all inappropriate.

@@berlineczkaI was wondering why he had to sell it. Thank you.

That's a GREAT observation and yes, i'll echo your question ...........WHY was that????

This comment exactly. I skipped through all of Benedict’s even the sex scenes and pen and Colin just felt rushed and we didn’t get enough of a burn between them and not enough sex scenes.

​@cottoncandyflaps4347 I think that's because Nichola Cochlane is Catholic and she didn't want too much sex scenes so her family could watch her season.

I skipped the Benedict scenes too! They felt so random and unnecessary. Kind of cringy. They definitely rushed Collin and Penelope.

@@erinirvine7588 No, they actually filmed a lot more. There was like 10 minutes montage of their honey moon (that we got 2 seconds of in the final montage) and probably another scene. They talked about them in the interviews, not knowing these scenes will be cut. They did not only the audience but also the actors dirty. They did an amazing PR job during the tour but ended up promising things that the producers ended up cutting without them knowing.

Benedict will be the focus in season 4 so the side story of him in season 3 made sense. His bisexuality will probably continue in season 4.

I was expecting some flashbacks!

The difference is that he was still holding on to Marina and when he came back she completely shattered his world l, called him a child and It's what pushed him into putting on the armor that Violet was talking about

Yeah it would have been cool seeing flashbacks of their friendship together, conversations they had that weren’t shown in the previous seasons or seeing some of thier letters. There were parts about this season that I really like with them, but something felt off. If I’m honest I think I liked the scenes I liked because I find Luke Newton to be very attractive, not because it did anything for their love story which is not what you want your audience to do. Your video gave me a lot more insight as to why it felt wrong and comparing it to how Darcy is portrayed was a great connection. Instead of Colin having this revelation of love for Penelope and showing us why, it seems we are expected to just accept that he really doesn’t do much of anything to earn her, she’s already been infatuated with him for years and I never thought for a moment that Penelope would reject him. I felt like Colin held the power of what he and Pen were the entire season and it felt like Pen was the one still longing for him. It would have been way more interesting had she rejected him at first especially since she’s not in favor of this facade he’s putting on and if she distanced herself enough to the point where Colin had to do something bold or romantic to win her back.

@@TheErod92 No. He should have been putting on that "armor" in Season 2 because Marina and him happened in Season 1 not 2. It would not make sense for him to still be infatuated with Marina when this is supposed to be about him and Penelope.

@@TheErod92 Besides he did have closure with Marina in season 2 so that doesn't make any sense.

That phrase was so disrespectful and it supposed that Colin was in love with Pen. No logic in the writing.

I really didn't like that Colin accused her of trapping him either. He's the one who chased after her! Seriously?!

I have a lot of issues with how this season failed Polin so much, but I actually think the way she deceived him about Whistledown for her own gain DID make it look like entrapment, and they needed to address that so she had a chance to convince Colin (and us) that it wasnt. She rushed to tell the Ton (via Whistledown, ironically) of her and Colin's engagement, even after Elouise begged her to tell him, reminding her that he can't love her if he doesn't truly know her. She had unprotected sex with him, likely leading to a pregnancy. All before HE found out himself that she was Whistledown. Honestly, if I was Colin, not only would I wonder who Pen actually is, but I would definitely feel tricked and deceived into marriage. This is a criticism of the writers. They failed Polin in so many wats, but most of all by undermining their love story through the way they handled Whistledown. She put herself interest above her love for him, as she did with Elouise. This makes her unlikeable and undermines the love between her and these characters.

I don't see how Penelope using Whistledown as means to announce their engagement is relevant. Colin ruined her chances with the vegan lord (forgot his name), and fingerfucked her in the carriage. After that, he wanted to have a way out? That would be dispicable. But I do think that was a bad move for Whistledown, because it was too soon for anyone who isn't Penelope herself to know about that, she was risking her secret.

I was mad also!!! And the first time on couch??? (RIP it's legs, as well as script writers ability to stay adequate) Oh, really, not the king size bed, no candles, no GodDamRespect! What the...?!

Cressida ruined it but people here seem to forget about how Marina tried to baby trap the guy and lied to him, the man got trust issues. He didn't know wethere Pen loves him or not or was just using him.

Totally

I totally agree too!

Child abuse 😅

I agree!!! This was my favourite book and they failed Colin and Penelope

Idk why ya say that the man was rightfully hurting and anyone in his position would feel overwhelmed

exactlyy

Yes, this - the show kept jumping back and forth, and even though it was probably the season showing most skin so far, it felt dull and half hearted. (the writing - the actors did great with what they were given)

The season was suppose to be about Penelope and Colin, but they ended up just being a side note to all the other story lines. Very Very Disappointing! Unlike the couples from the previous 2 season, she's loved Colin for a very long time and the buildup and satisfaction of her finally getting her man *never happened.* Very poorly written season.

Finally someone said it

Same honestly I was more interested in Kate and Anthony. I miss them so much.

True. I wish they had shown them romance each other

@@bhuvaneshwarij1326 Exactly, the season is meant to be called “Romancing Mr. Bridgerton” but the episode that titles it doesn’t have any “big and sparkly” romance.

@@sathvikpatibandla9777 agree. It’s like they didn’t think about what the episode titled after the book should even be about… like put some fluff something to “romance Mr. Bridgerton”

I agree. It was jarring.

I didnt even have the aww moment. Except for maybe the mom and daughter scenes and benedict and eloise scenes

It’s not just Bridgerton. So many Netflix shows nowadays have unnecessary s*x scenes 🙄

the sex scene between pen and colin was so cringe. the lighting was bad the chemistry, even the dialogue was cringy. i was uncomfortable just watching it.

​@@TigaFeva that scene is also uncomfortable to read in the book. That is probably one of the few things they took straight from the book, including the lines. Also being the "first" time makes it more uncomfortable. We aren't used to watching such scenes in movie and shows, its mostly take your clothes off, jump on each other, make some weird noises and done. This was more realistic, hence the discomfort🙂

Was hoping the same, that only the Queen and Collin knew about her

Oh. I never thought of this but this would be good.

sounds fun!! but it would probably be a bad look for the queen, since pretty much everyone knew she was trying to find lady whistledown for quite a while. also penelope weirdly suffered zero consequences for clowning the queen for like three years straight

@@annaequare right that seams like a treason thing, that was dismissed and they even rushed the queen interaction with her. I also feel like realistically the queen wouldve had her guards arrest her and bring her to face the queen. maybe there would've been a discussion of how to move forward with it as it seemed that way in the previous seasons.

I wanted ‘friends to lovers’ instead I got ‘grumpy drama queen husband on the couch who is almost my enemy to lovers’😭 It took one bump in their friendship/relationship to make him take back every nice thing he’s said to her. Where did the ‘I’ll always protect you.’ ‘ I love you and you didn’t entrap me.’ Energy go? I already think LW is over-hated and it’s hypocritical because they utilize her for their benefit back in s1 with daphne. She writes biased sheets about his family + She’s basically saved their asses from total ruin or unhappy fates. They love her entertainment until they have to face their own music. They can’t just gloss over these comments from him. ‘It’s you who is the one at fault.’ ‘I’ll never forgive you.’ ‘This was your plan of entrapment.’ SORRY?! I’m gonna make you swallow this engagement ring if you were throwing that shit hot at me. Mr. ‘I’ll screw up your engagement and chase your carriage to finger bang you’ Bridgerton is now telling me I’m the entrapping one? The one that took her to their new home and basically seduced her. Saying all that cruel stuff then stonewalling for potential days and not even looking at her? The disrespect. It’s not just Normal distance where he’s trying to settle his resentment and betrayal and communicating with his best foot forward. It’s him being an absolute menace. He took a painfully slow time and had to read her letters for it to click ‘oh, wait yeah…I do love her. Lady whistledown is actually pretty cool cause the writing hits bc I love pens writing too 🥰.’ WAKE UP. What even had him so heated about whistledown? Marina is away from the ton with her kids like she wanted and el didn’t get arrested for being LW.

They did her so dirty and it made me so sad. I think it was a mistake to have polin lead s3. They needed the time to mature...

How does nobody see how manipulative and deceptive Pen was to Colin with Whistledown? She rushed to tell the Ton of her engagement and then slept with him, knowing how he felt about Whistledown and that she was trapping him with her before he knew a very large part of who she is. That whole plot completely undermined Polin's love and made Pen look no better than Marina. I have issues with Colin too, but I'm surprised no one seems to be picking up on how badly Whistledown was handled and that it really did entrap Colin by the time HE found out for himself. I'd have been pretty pissed about that too. Argh, such a terrible plot.

@@ello8116 I think she thought he would forgive her, and maybe understand her reasoning, flawed as it was. Colin of the first two seasons would have. This guy in S3, though…. He spewed so much poison at her. The thing that really galls me most is that HE NEVER APOLOGIZED. She fell all over herself apologizing, and he told her in effect that he would marry her out of obligation, but he would never be happy, and neither would she. I wanted to hit him- hard- on her behalf. I agree that she was deceptive. She should have told him at the soonest possible moment. He deserved honesty. I disagree about manipulative. I think she was terrified he’d react badly, and boy howdy, did he.

@@surette2012 Well, she did call him out for trying to be a bro, but she was telling the truth. Put those guys in modern clothes with bottled beer and they’d look like drunk frat boys.

Same 😂😂

Exactly

I thought the same! Glad it wasn't just me!

It seems like it was thrown together. I just didn’t buy any of it.

Agreed! Even the cinematography and shots were lacking. That air balloon scene 😣 I was disappointed, but it was no fault of the actors, they were great. The way this season was put together was disorganized and not focused.

​@@foxglove12342 granted this season should have had three love stories happening happening at once or in short succession because pen franny and eloise all find love in the same year.

No honestly his season 1 isn't him being bi it's him trying to understand his friend. Benedict was never queer himself but introducing it to his character isn't a bad thing but sadly his love interest doesn't make sense in a gender bent fashion which would make it seem like a phase too. Unless they find a way to introduce chemistry in without making it seem cheaty which isn't their strong suit.

This is what you get when writers strike. Pay them what they are worth or get this slapped together, nonsensical hot doo.

i dont even under stand what the side characters getting so much detailed screen time was needed. they are side characters, and why wouldnt they focus primarily on one bridgerton romance at time. we had 3 different ones taking up equal amount of time which. completely rushed the season and made it forgetable for each plot.

That's what I think too. When uncleherman opened with the writers don't have faith in Pen as a main character. It made sense why they undercut Polin.

That's why Colin speech announcing she's Whistledown is so important to the story line! Uuuuuggghh they screwed up so bad with this season!

Yup ..there was no moments of real romance and live , the celebration of Penelope ..all I see her tense tense tense ..it doesn't feel romantic

But Penelope IS WHISTLEDOWN !!!! shes a main character !!! More of romance cos she has always been a wallflower and we loved her and related to her in that aspect I agree with OP , Colin seems to lust her rather than love her , a short montage from the time they first met to the realisation that he needs Penelope in his life would have been way better Lord Debbling could have been someone truly attracted to her rather than someone who needed her

He bedded her because he truly showed what he said- that he loved her and would be there/protect her. Then he hears she wrote LW and he calls that entrapment but he would marry her because of honor. And he never really apologizes for that, pushing the male trope that a girl wants sex instead of open communication and being accepted as yourself

I was disappointed by that too, especially given the chemistry the actors had during the press tour. Why did they squash all of that in the show?

yeah Colin has dead 👀, no chemistry with Pen.

i prefered lord deblings chemistry w Pen too! Colin just looked lusty and couldnt figure himself out.. he doesnt have much depth.

Fr i wish they would have focused soley on their story line. Have pen hate colin longer, then have him help her. Throughout that process they can become closer friends and COLIN can be the one initiating and realizing he doesn’t want to keep helping her because he doesn’t want her to find someone else. He wants to be hers. I really wanted pen to have her independence era where she’s being pinned over and colin is the one dealing with unrequited love. They didn’t give us enough of them as friends to make their childhood friendship believable. They could have done flashbacks where we see pen and colin as kids getting close. They truly just told us that we should care without giving us a reason to care. So much wasted potential.

@@beatpirate8 Lord Debling was truthful about the marriage he could offer her. No love, but friendship and independence. I agreed with Portia that financial stability can sometimes be the most important factor, especially if there might be children involved one day.

i have to admit i didn't care about Benedict either well the sex scenes

Benedict's sexcapades = don't care. The Mondriches = don't care. I felt like Colin was either pouty or angry. Did we have an episode where Penelope was not about to cry? And can I just say the lack of foreplay is beyond annoying. Colin was particularly bad. It's like he used his fingers as a dipstick checking for fluid levels. That looked like the most unsatisfying sex ever. I expect this if he is 16, but he is supposed to be experienced. Is this really the best they could do?

@@pomptonqueenThis is what I’ve been saying!! The sex scene was very weird but I think the actors did a great job with the shitty writing they were given 😭

Plus the morning-daytime, nightime, daytime nighttime shift,... I was like where tf does benedict etc doing it? Overseas? Why is the editing daytime the nighttime and again

Same it was too much. I literally said “it’s not done yet!” Like it seemed as though the writers weren’t even routing for colin and pen but were trying to convince us to. Instantly from the first seconds of season 3 episode 1 I knew it felt very different from the original bridgerton. I liked fran’s storyline but I wish she had her own season so this one could truly be polin focused.

This 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Facts

I thought similarly, I actually conceived of a brothel scene, if they must do one) that I think would've worked better ( I am biased of course) Colin thinks he has lost Penelope his toxic friends have tried to get him to go before and his resisted by this time he goes, he picks a girl who looks similar to Penelope and as they are undressing he calls her Penelope, eager to roll with it she says it's okay and that she can be his Penelope he stops and says no she couldn't and he tells her all the things that make Penelope special not just what is tantamount to, “I like you because of what you do for me,” which he spouts annoyingly often in the show imo. She looks at him after his rant and she asks if this Penelope is so wonderful what he’s doing there with her? We see a ponderous look on his face and the scene cuts away. When we cut back we see a cluster of girls at the door claiming it's been hours and wondering what they're doing we see a camera shot of the prostitute lying on the pillow with just her head shown. "Oh my God” she says breathlessly leading the audience to think they are having sex but instead she shoots up to a sitting position exclaiming, “you told them you would never court her?” Pan to Colin in the corner, his shirt is re-buttoned and he's pacing, what started out as a visit to a brothel has become his therapy session as he pours his heart out. He confesses to her that he’s tried to be like his brother and she laughs telling him this is the longest she's been in this room fully clothed. She’s seen her share of rakes and scoundrels and he is not one, he is a romantic and a man in love. "I know," he says breathlessly as if he both always knew and just figured it out He kisses her on the forehead, hands her a wad of cash, and leaves. She protests that he's already paid but he sticks his head back in the door saying she was worth every bit, the two share an excited smile as he rushes out. The girls come in amazed and ask what they were up to but she won't tell.

@@bonjourAshlynplease write this fanfic!

​@@bonjourAshlyn Now THIS was entertaining to read! I wish they filmed it this way. At least we would know what was going on in his mind, instead of having to guess 🙄

@@stellarjen13 ​ If I do I will post an update here I think I would also want to do something new with Pen and Debling’s dynamic. I remembered Debling’s kind of spicy line about Penelope’s ability to make one wither that seems to get dropped as he’s just kind of all business from then on, as well as the scene in the carriage where Colin's coming up with reasons she shouldn’t marry Debling and I thought, what if Debling is the chad Colin wants to be? He’s the rake and ladies' man, Colin tries, Debling succeeds. He’s charming and captivates the Ton and the women therein. Also, I feel Colin, despite all the posturing he's trying and failing to do, defines himself by being honorable and a gentleman so seeing a guy like that going after his best friend would set him off, and Debling would not be shy about his interest in her physical attributes. I picture Colin overhearing Debling in the bar talking about it, and yelling at him not to speak about her that way! Basically, the whole dynamic is the song “Treat You Better” by Shawn Mendes which does actually have a few classical covers on RU-vid if I recall. I haven’t read the books so I don’t know how much this would upend but I liked the idea as I feel it gives Chaos Colin. Overprotective Colin, Gentleman Colin, and eventually my wife Colin.

@@bonjourAshlyn My goodness, Ashley - what are you doing writing such great stuff answering RU-vid videos? You should be at your desk writing romance novels! You definitely have talent. I love your imagination.😊

You did not read the books then

I agree about Cressida. Fashion being modern doesn't bother me, even music is modern. I just felt a few times that most of the dresses are ugly. I don't remember thinking that before.

As much as we want happy endings for everyone, it is certainly not the case. I even thought Penelope’s annoucement was a little sappy, but to each their own

I don’t care if the cast is wearing Mac ruby woo, 200 dollar highlighter, acrylics or wearing sequins. I’ve accepted that they are being anachronistic and experimental. It is heightened reality, an alternative world set in regency. I only care if the characters are well rounded and the story flows. Your first point is spot on. Because every moment you hope someone will actually stand by these women struggling or tormented it’s cricket. They attempt an escape or to outwit their oppressors and for Cressida it failed and for pen it worked out. Even though I believe Colin should’ve said something and I get they’re doing the whole ‘girl’s do it better and save yourself.’ Stuff. But PLEASE, Colin. Advocate for your wife, say something bold to the ton, not just in hushed words in ballroom corners to her.

The dresses were so awful and garish this season. Felt like hunger games Capitol. I know it's fantasy, but there is tasteful fantasy like game of Thrones dresses which were stunning. Then this which is tacky sequins and printed material, sleeves that look from 2024. I even caught Pen with a see through perspex clutch bag in part 1 🤢

Omg! His love of food. Such a huge part of the books.

They did nothing with him for female empowerment 😢

@@sara1coco this is exactly what I said. It felt like the writers forgot they were writing a ROMANCE DRAMA and instead made it about some girlboss feminism. I'm pissed

@@sara1coco not really lol. they destroyed his character because they thought the viewers would want a ~rake~. That's not about female empowerment

@@martha8517 They didn't destory his character, they just did nothing with him, undermined him and Shonda explained they made him a "rake" to highlight toxic masculinuty. It was supposed to be weird to us as it's his fake persona. At first he was supposed to be a virgin but then Shonda decided on the reshoots.

I agree. He left his brother's wedding reception to go see if he liked a threesome and he never returned. It just seemed out of character for such a previously attentive brother. At least wait until AFTER the reception. I don't think he would have been so impolite. He had so many opportunities at the art school and he waits until his brother's wedding.

Yes! Every time Lady Arnold and him got on screen i had to pause and prepare myself mentaly😭😭

The thruple scenes had MUCH more chemistry than Colin's.

I also skipped those scenes

It felt like the threesome scenes dragged on 3 days lmao

Yeah… They just felt so jarring the way they were edited in. I honestly liked the first half of the season… but the second half felt rushed and weird and badly edited.

benedicts whole storyline irritates me. he was my favorite bridgerton brother because he was an artist and exploring his sexuality and freedom as a second brother, and I loved his relationship with Eloise. but they threw that all away to focus soley on his sexuality in some ridiculous threesome, like what happened about wanting to be a great artist? he couldve had a whole arc about getting back into art school on his OWN skill vs being a nepo baby.. but no

Love those comments. Thank you.

Totally agree and on top of that Francesca is probably the prettiest actress so what a shame her partners… Benedict I was silently shouting don’t go please don’t kiss that guy 😢

Your right, total failure, some movie should follow the book or be more close to the natator story book. Julia Quinn book got published for a good reason. She knew how to sell the story, Shondaland failed

Perfect assessment!

they were trying to be too liberal for our taste LOL

Yeah..I agree. I wanted to see more love and support from Colin after he found out she was LW. Did not get that at all. I honestly felt like I was watching different characters. Something felt off with them and I think it's because there was not enough character development. I wanted to see more of Colins travels and his writing. And why wouldn't you show a flashback of when they first met?! I feel like this season who have been better off if they would have followed along with the book more closely.

I think they just don't know how to structure seasons. This happened last season too. Fans complained about how little time Kate and Anthony got and how much time the Featheringtons got in that dull storyline about the father's brother. I think they tried to force Penelope's story more into the book in terms of a steamy love with Colin when that wasn't what had been properly built up. I think having Penelope on her own journey rather than trying to put her into "raunchy" scenes with a generic gym version of Colin would have benefited her. Give her a romance, but a surprising one, and if they wanted Colin and Penelope, take more time to build up Colin's feelings for her.

And yet she did soo good ,they ruined it for her . Such a shame😒

sideplots aside, the season was literally 80% Pen and 20% Colin. They completely sidelined Colin in favor of Pen.The book did a REALLY good job of developing Colin's character, and the writers for this show completely ignored it. So like what are you even talking about.

@@AshleyAlvarez-rq9ue The show has never seemed that interested in Colin. I feel bad for the actor in that he had to go get a "hunkify" type of image makeover which kind of goes against the idea of body positivity and acceptance we got with Penelope.

@@kengeorgejones6855 EXACTLY. The fact that LN had to go through a complete body transformation is a huge double standard. And I'm so upset that they didn't develop Colin's character the way he deserved. The book material is RIGHT THERE. They could've easily adapted it.

YEs please..redo this ridiculous series with the previous showrunner!😊

Well may I suggest you hold your breath until everything in the World is just as you like it. Will remedy so much for all of us. Many people enjoyed this season. No need for an apology from anyone. The writers and actors put a lot of effort into this show. Seems a bit self-centered to do a redo on your behalf. But some people do not appreciate the work of others. Just want an "apology" for having the nerve to do things as they see fit.

@@donny1960 do you see her emojis? I don't think she was being so serious. I like her sense of humor.

@@angelalakes ok. Next time I decide to think like you..... I will reconsider it. 😇😇😇😇

@@donny1960 Passive aggressive.

the makeup and hair were SO jarring

@@user-ed7et3pb4o yes! The worst were actually the first time they get really intimate and on their WEDDING DAY. I swear I couldnt look at her without saying „whats wrong with her makeup?“

The last part was just the worst.

I thought the first time was very sweet. Her expressions were “chef kiss” spot on for a virgin in that era

@@bevb752 I dont know if you read the book but the show was nothing compared to what you can. It was night, it was their engagement party and he literally begged for her to stay and not go away. In the show I really did not feel the atmosphere for their first time :(

I genuinely thought Whistledown would either secretly team up with queen maybe as more of a royal gossip columnist. OR Eloise would take over. Very shocked that Pen came out with it and everyone gasped and that was it.. anti climax and now there is no mystique in the ton over it.

In the book she also gets revealed Colin is actually the one who announced it....things went down differently in the show, but she was supposed to be revealed...she is allowed to still write though but she will obviously write as Penelope Bridgerton from now on!

I remember there was a hint in season 1, where to he is staring at two men doing it (???) i was like, oh hes going to be Bi on this series back then

I always thought he was gay lol I called the theeesome before it happened

Yes!!! There wasno need for those awful debauchery threesome scenes ! Gross!

Omg I thought it was just me. I skipped all the threesome scenes. Rolled my eye lol. Sorry but I just couldn’t stand it. The story is so uninteresting to me

Like we got it the first time, we didn’t need to see it 3 other times with no breaks 😂

I skipped through the “racy” scenes. So bored

I thought I was the only one it just made me hate the season 1. The whole season was a mess

Not Edward Cullen 😂😂😂

Wait I thought I was the only one that saw it 😭

he had the weird off putting stare of edward cullen too! there were no emotions behind those eyes 💀

He needs to stop hanging his mouth open as well

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Who everyone?!

@@RealVincent1989 ☠️ ok I was really looking forward to it lol

Beautifully said!

Exactly!! There were flashbacks in the previous seasons so I was expecting some in this season. I just don't understand why this was not talked about in the writing room?! And if it was..why would you not include those in the story. Did anyone feel like they were watching different characters this season? I guess it was a combination of the writing and glow ups, but I just didn't feel like I was watching Pen and Colin story. They felt like different characters to me. Which I think part of this is because there was so many other subplots.

The scenes were rushed, too much sex makes sex irrelevant. They should learn from kdramas lol. They Koreans hardly undress or kiss, that’s what builds the chemistry between the characters. If sex happens too fast, it’s not love, it’s just lust.

Yep. I mean polin sex scene were okay except for the one outside the modiste Benedict's were.... idk. They didnt do it well.

I agree ick and forced ...

@@Rainbow-jb4xg Exactly. I was left wondering if it was a porn arc instead cause jeez

All the sex scenes were cringe this season. They ruined the vibe

I thought it was out of character for him to basically treat her like a whore before marriage

​@@rebeccapettiford5389 Tbf, Penelope asks/begs Colon to kiss her in the book, too. She's had many more seasons past her in the book, is officially called a spinster, has accepted that fate, so she begs Colin for a kiss so she has experienced this at least once in her life. The kiss was pretty much the only plot point they took almost 1:1 from the book 😅

​@@rebeccapettiford5389 Agree.

@@rebeccapettiford5389RIGHT?! I couldn’t place why I didn’t like that scene so much, but he treats her like a woman in a brothel. It was kind of flat and unromantic and he says the most awkward, “I know more than you” sex things and for once I couldn’t stomach a sex scene in this series. He’s icky

Tbf, Penelope asks/begs Colin to kiss her in the book, too. She's had many more seasons past her in the book, is officially called a spinster, has accepted that fate, so she begs Colin for a kiss so she has experienced this at least once in her life. The kiss was pretty much the only plot point they took almost 1:1 from the book 😅

@@awsome182I wish it was the plot point that they had decided to change from the book rather than kept. I personally would have preferred them to keep Colin finding out about LW before proposing and trying to protect Penelope instead or even the role of Lady Danbury. But a way to still keep the kiss as being one Pen asked for could have been through the flirting lessons rather than how it came across as she would never have an opportunity then straight back into trying to find a match the very next day. It felt disingenuous rather than earned as Pen had more confidence to ask in the books as she had truly given up on the marriage mart.

@@Amber86queenbee I absolutely would have preferred it for Colin to find out about LW before their engagement. Because that's how it happens in the book, too. The "carriage scene" actually happens right after he found out (btw, he's the first to find out, not Eloise) and I think this entire "she trapped me into this marriage"-plot they invented in the show could have been avoided because it is so strong in the book that Colin KNOWS that she's LW and still asks her to marry him.

Agree. And I wanted Pen to stand up for herself so bad, when Eloise was humiliating her over and over again. I wanted her to defend herself, to argue to fight with such good arguments, Eloise would stand still for a while and be ashamed of her acts. But the most powerful woman in the series choose to stay that defensive victim, waiting for the sympathy of others instead of growing into that independent woman she secretly always was.

Thank you !!!!!!!!!

You gotta remember that Marina did try to baby trap him the man was scared of not being loved and used again. That's fine.

This right here! Also, Eloise accused Penelope of causing pain to Marina by her exposing Marina’s pregnancy. However, if Eloise had really thought about it, Penelope kept Marina’s secret…As earlier in the season 1, during one of their walks, Penelope mentioned to Eloise that she knew of an unmarried woman who was with child. She also discussed on another one of their walks of the woman’s hope to be reunited with her love. It was only much later in the season that Penelope actually exposed Marina…. Eloise like Pen is considered to be clever yet she did not think about this. Nor this she give Penelope a chance to explain that she pleaded with Marina not to take advantage of Colin and only wrote about her pregnancy when it became absolutely clear that Marina intended to trap Colin the next day by eloping to Gretna Green.

You can never be CAUGHT alone with a man or you will be ruined. I think thats the legit difference. The rule of society is still there. But no one found out.

If they are mid 20s and want to do it, why would you make a problem out of nothing? They can ask for less nudity and it can be like season 2. They can also leave and get replaced but we need to let them make the decision.

Since it takes 2 years to put out a season and Gregory and Hyacinth are the last two getting married, it will be 6 years before we get to one of them. The actors are 17/18 now, so they will be mid 20's when it's their turn.

​@@elizabethsommerer2164just get rid of this showrunner who seems not to be able do her job well in this (or perhaps any) show.😢

Netflix only signed on for 4 seasons... so doubt we get Hyacinth or Gregory. I'm even wondering if they will stick Benedict and Eloise's story together as a longer season?

I love this! All the things I wanted! I wanted virgin, nerd, foodie Colin! They didn't need to make him a rake, I also got ick thinking about all the diseases he must have. I agree how they had to make Colin this heartthrob and when he treats Pen poorly she should just take it. As you said the fat girl should b happy with what we give her. This rang true for me! Polin could have been so beautiful! Also love the all his firsts should have been Pen's. ❤❤❤❤ I love that so much!

⁠@@mmtpleasant 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕 The Demisexual representation that Bridgerton claim to be giving us. Was nonexistent. The previous show runner (Chris) said that Colin was the sensitive one because he was raised amongst his sisters 👯‍♀️ playing dolls 🎀and the age gap between him and his two older brothers. Makes him less likely to be a womanizer like his older brothers. so in season 1 and 2 they were setting Colin up to be a romantic demisexual. Hence why he wouldn’t kiss Marina🐚. The toxic masculinity story that they wanted to tell they’ve already told it twice with Simon and Anthony and with Simon and Anthony. They had all the legwork 🦵from season 2 to tell the story of toxic masculinity through Anthony. That’s how they could’ve shown us his character growth. At the end of season 2 he said that he will humble himself for Kate. To be the man worthy of her. ‘Great’ you have your toxic masculinity story right there. Season 3 we could have seen Anthony imparting, this Wisdom onto his younger brothers Gregory and Colin. Simon and Anthony are best friends for a reason they’re both touched in head, assholes. It’s understandable, why they are the way they are. We know from the books that Anthony is planning on dying young like his father so he’s trying to avoid attachments. The man is a bit tweaked in the head from taking on so much responsibility at the age of 18 and having to deal with his postpartum depressed grieving mother and all of his 7 siblings. At the end of Anthony season. He learned that the man that he was was no man at all. He was a reprehensible thoughtless Cad. Who needed to humble himself to deserve his soulmate. And you’re telling me the lesson Colin learned in this is be a W*** in 17 cities. 🌆 Colin is a trust fund brat, who gets to travel the world on his rich 🤑 inheritance. Making him a Mr. World international Rake. Makes him extremely selfish. Even more than Simon and Anthony. 🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃 This type of characterization does not make any sense for Colins character. 👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾 The new show-runner decides to redo Simon‘s ark. And just scrap the character that they set up for two seasons. Simon’s ark makes sense for him. It makes sense why he would be so selfish. He is an abused, traumatized man. 👨🏾 Who is touch starved? And affection starved. He’s never really known love devotion safety. Affection & Acceptance. Colin doesn’t struggle from any of that. He grew up in a loving household. He’s always been supported and taken care of. The level of the disrespect of how they destroyed Colins character in comparison to every single other male character. Isn’t unforgivable offense. 1. Anthony at least had the decency to get himself a consistent mistress for years. so he’s not fathering potential bastards to be ignored. As Queen Charlotte has said that’s what happens to them. They are ignored. 2. Benedict doesn’t pay for prostitutes. He sleeps with willing independent empowered women. not systematically oppressed prostitutes. 3. John Sterling is adorable. 4. Lord Debling by comparison, a truly secure man 🧍‍♂️ who stands for his own conviction. 5.Featherington girls husbands are cinnamon rolls The Colin we got. Is undeserving of. The ever faithful ever waiting, Penelope. Loyal to Odysseus wayward wondering 🤔 Man w***ing ass. They had so much potential. The chemistry and story in season 1 and 2 were so cute and refreshing but the writers instead chose to turn it into a typical overused fuckboy redemption story. There are other ways where they could express the 'trying to fit in' storyline but they chose to ruin Colin's character instead. 😤 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️ It’s not fake or faking when you actually sell your integrity down the river. Just to be accepted. And become everything you proclaimed that you were not. You are who you choose to be. When your morals can be compromised just for the sake of pointless validation. What would’ve actually given him a leg 🦵 to stand on is if he wasn’t doing everything he suddenly deemed reprehensible. And unworthy of the title of gentlemen If Colin had felt a bone-deep disdain for this ridiculous society that he had been born into. He would’ve held himself to a different standard, hold on to his Morals even if was just privately. (But he didn’t) 👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽 You would think after everything That happened with Marina 🐚, a truly compassionate man, sensitive, thoughtful & caring wouldn’t risk putting bastards into the world just for them to be abandoned. And never know their father. Imagine if Colin father a daughter who ends up being some man’s whore. And Toy 🧸. and I’m just supposed to respect and understand that I can’t. Is this what you call a man of HONOR? I saw on Instagram a interview that the actor (Luke) didn’t like the whole brothel scene. He said the characterization came out of nowhere for him. Kinda took him by surprise. 😮 It’s one thing to surprise your audience with a character change, but to completely deform the character to point your wondering, who the hell is this creep? Long story short Colins reasoning for becoming this man is empty and hollow and it makes Colin looks empty and hollow. 😕

Beautiful!! Absolutely loved your points! Thank you for sharing. I'm sad to say, I didn't even think of Colin having potential babies. I hated the brothel scenes. I love your point of how Colin wouldn't do this cause he was so close to his sisters. And Pen is his closest friend. He doesn't have a male close friend does he?

@@mmtpleasant No he doesn’t have any male friends. The only Male company he keeps are his brothers, he’s friendly with his sister’s husband, but he prefers to hang out with his sisters. 👯‍♀️ and Penelope. In the books, he’s really close with Daphne because they’re the closest in age. Colin prefers the company of girls because he’s a sensitive soul. And can’t really relate to the man of the TON. He’s a mama’s boy. He spends the most time with his mother. He’s the most likely to take care of her when she’s elderly. The Colin we loved 🥰is a soft boy who wouldn’t objectify women like the way they showed in the show. What they did to Colin was a complete character assassination. Cressida had no redeeming qualities in the books 📚 she’s a horrible Viper 🐍 who has bullied and body shamed Penelope her entire life. Then they re-wrote her character tried to make her friends with Eloise gave her some kind of redemption arc for no reason at all. Cressida in the books is a narcissist who can’t love. 💕 then they made her victim for what?

@sarickacampbell2642 thanks for sharing. I would have LOVED to see that Colin! Character assassination indeed. Like there can only b one type of male leas. So many missed opportunities this season.

They also sprung him into his first bi relationship through Lady Tilly's deception 🤢 It was all so shallow and icky, especially compared to his blooming curiosity through his friendship with Henry Granville in season one

Absolutely agree. I liked the first two episodes but so many aspects of series 3 were out of sink, depressing, silly and amateurish.😢

My thing is: why did they choose Penelope for this season if they felt she wasn't ready? In the book, her and Colin don't get together until much, much later. Penelope is more matured and actually speaks for herself very well. Which I think is better than this naive and doting Penelope we have here.

@@firalove529 I agree! I would say Polin is my favorite couple so I was excited for their story, but with the way it turned out...Would have been better to wait. I honestly feel like fans could have come together to write this season and would have done a much better job. It felt so rushed and it did not feel like Colin and Pen. Why not have flashbacks to when they first met, or of Colins travels. So disappointed with how it turned out.

Did you miss the carriage scene? Their first time? He was ALWAYS pleasing her first. What a stupid take. The biggest problem this season is that they underdeveloped the writing for Colin. He's the sweetest Bridgerton sibling and they didn't give him the male lead treatment he deserves.

She is gonna crush him

​@@firalove529 they are probably going to just have one more season, so they wanted to wrap up the important plots quickly, especially LW. They can't have as many seasons as the books, its bound to get boring, remember what happened with Game of Thrones? they barely have invested any time on Hyacinth and Gregory, so they clearly won't have a separate season, so next season would be Benedict, Eloise and maybe Francesca, which I am least interested in frankly and that's it. Just that I feel S3 would still be remembered as the worst season, as the makers now have a lot of pointers from the criticism it received and might try to make S4 slightly better, making S3 the worst of the lot.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought Paul creepy...

he was since season 1, he hooked up with 2 women

She was spot on about the Bridgertons.

You do know that Cressida didn't even write that her mother wrote it for her because Cressida couldn't even write anything like the real LW....and Cressida had no right in trying to take credit for Penelope's life work!

yes, I want a spinoff about violet and edward, I had hoped we would see something in the charlotte prequel

THANK YOU. Not including lgbts is not being hateful or phobic. Forcing someone to include you is actually disrespectful. There are SO many representations for ALL of us. WHY THE F DO THEY WANT TO BE INCLUDED SO MUCH EVERYWHERE ?!? 🤌🏽

You can research who owns Netflix and that preprogramming human consciousness and minds is the agenda. It was clear after the film Cuties 😢

@@myriamzafar8176 it´s not that QUEER PEOPLE want that in every show! That´s an oversimplification!

Well said!

I mourned virgin Colin, honestly. It would have been nice to see a virgin Pen and Colin have their first time together, exploring one another. The actors would have done a brilliant job at it as well.

I don't think Colin was a virgin in the books either. There is a line in the book that says ,he has been with women before. Besides, he is 33 in the book when Pen and him get together. Not sure about his age in the show but him not being a virgin didn't bother me much.

Yeah I agree

I for one only watched the Polin scenes I skipped everyone else's because I don't care for all those other couples they are so freaking boring!

@@EmotionalFlowerBlooming It gave me And Just Like That vibes - the reboot of Sex and The City - AWFUL...when they start caring about every freaking demographic out there. And I agree - the other couples are boring.

Yes! Season 1 is the best in my opinion as well. They added too many other subplots that it took the focus away from developing the main characters.

@@Madi-hu2pq Absolutely! they are literally trying to hit every demographic for no reason than the entire series is a giant CASH COW! They better get back on their game bc they are losing fans fast.

Pen hurt him back as a revenge, the man owned up to it, tried to make it right what else was he supposed to do?

@@sara1coco idk, an explanation would be nice. it felt out of character.

Nope Colin and penelope talked about the horrible horse riding meetcute it part 1 too. During one of their lessons. So anyone who watched the show will know what he was talking about. I did and I haven't read the books.

Totally agree with everything you said, especially the costuming. Just awful and out of place.

Cressida was pretty nasty but I can see why she turned out like that when you see what kind of father she had to endure .

I think the main problem is that they keep telling us but not showing it on screen. Yeah I get why he's supposed to have changed but it doesn't really translate well with Colin's actions throughout the seasons

Thats why it’s so important to SHOW and NOT TELL

I was thinking the same. They did tell us why he felt the need to change. The more I watch these videos about how bad Season 3 was, the more I realize they didn't even watch the season for real... I guess they decided to hate it before it was even out.

Realistically, both actors left the show and are seeking employment elsewhere. It saves on budget costs to not bring in new actors to pay them to play these roles. It's a show. In a world where empires are collapsing and other awful things happening, we have to accept unless we direct or write out own shows, we won't get what we want. Which is why I hated Season 2 and haven't watched Season 3. Netflix show runners ruined The Witcher as well.