Season 8 starts here guys!! - Road to Conqueror AoE4 - Byzantine Mirror and Byz vs HRE

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A bumper video for you all today with my first two placement matches. You all voted for me to stick with Byzantines, but we are going to be changing it up with a little booming. 2TC all the way. Let's see if I can figure out how to make this work and defend my extra villagers. Wish me luck!!
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@johnnypenso9574 Месяц назад

Couple of observations. In the first game you put the wall on the gold through the gold vein at the back. When going two TC, you have to secure the gold so that wall should have been placed well away from the gold vein so it wasn't susceptible to archers if you aren't putting the TC back there. It costs a bit more wood but would have forced him to mass units to break down the wall giving you plenty of time to mass forces and react. In the second game, you build a lumber camp while you still had two straggler trees. There's enough wood in the stragglers to get the 2nd TC up and you'd be 50 wood faster doing it without the lumber camp. The counter to all mounted archers is archers because they have no ranged armor. Had you built all archers with the arrow upgrade to fortify both them and the TCs you could have just sat back and picked off the horsemen and mangudai under the protection of your TCs. In the second game two TC against HRE FC is almost always a losing strategy. Every relic they get is the equivalent of 5 gold villagers so if they get 4 they are so far ahead of you in resource gathering that even with two TCs it'll take you forever to catch up. FC is basically the only way to go, get units onto the relics to kill their prelates and follow up with your own to get the relics.

@Amerath90 Месяц назад

Thanks for your tips, much appreciated. I'm really enjoying experimenting with a new build, even if it's sub optimal, to work on a different play style I've not tried before and any help is great. I agree about securing the gold, figuring out the best placement is def something I'm learning quickly. Berries are important for mercs but not as much as gold. I also realised my mistake with the wall as soon as the mangudai showed up and killed all my gold vills. Def won't be making that mistake again. I have tried doing it with only stragglers and with lumber camp and I find it doesn't make a huge difference and trying to match it so I finish all the trees at the same time is more difficult and not worth the extra hassle. Maybe with more practise I will be able to get the hang of it and min max it a little more. This is actually the first game I've ever come across mangudai so didn't really know how to handle them and I was really slow getting any production up at all. Archers and static defences will definitely be my approach next time. I also agree about HRE FC maybe not being the best time to test it. Their FC is particularly strong with relics and I threw away my knights stupidly so couldn't contest relics. But I definitely learned from that game on how to approach it better next time. Next time I will definitely do better 💪🏻📈

@BYZANTINE_GR 21 день назад

As a Byzantine player Iam stucked between plat and diamond 2 tc does not work well for us

@Amerath90 21 день назад

@@BYZANTINE_GR I'm glad I'm not the only one. I think going super early 2TC isn't the best idea but wanted to give it a try and test the limits.

@BYZANTINE_GR 21 день назад

@@Amerath90 sure. I tried it in season 7 didn’t went so well then I stopped. And they say Byzantines is a defensive civ while they don’t have any defensive landmark like the English or the Chinese

@Amerath90 21 день назад

In feudal they are def not defensive, but once you hit castle with mango towers it can be better. I would say they are better being aggressive and letting your economy slowly snowball in the background with cisterns and groves.

@szaman6107 Месяц назад

I played 2TC Byzantium and it doesn't work in most cases. Most Civs who play 2TC either have a defensive landmark (China, Russia) or are aggressive and this allows them to build 2TC (France or England). Here, the winery and 2TC do not provide the opportunity to defend against early aggression. I have the impression that Byzantium has a different strategy for each Civ.

@Amerath90 Месяц назад

Thanks for your comment, appreciate the support. I don't think it is the optimum Byz build by any means, as 1TC winery with relics can keep up with 2TC in early castle, but with the stone bonus it makes dropping a TC a lot faster. Maybe hippodrome would be better to allow for getting units out quickly, but I love how the winery scales. If nothing else I will get better at defending when the pressure is on, so that's a positive 👍🏻