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In today’s episode Thomas presents you the all-new generation of the Seat Ibiza as the sporty trim Seat Ibiza FR. As always we cover the exterior, interior, talk about engines and for sure drive the car - with a Diesel focus this time. Also we are looking at the transmissions, DSG vs MHD. How does it perform and how does it compete to other vehicles? These are further questions which will be answered on Autogefühl.
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Комментарии : 138   
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 6 лет назад
Merry Christmas to you Thomas and to the Autogefuhl team!!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
merry xmas kevin!
@ryanmorgan5899
@ryanmorgan5899 6 лет назад
Taking a fr on a test drive tomorrow. Great video to get me in the mood 😀
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
enjoy!
@akshayakshay9696
@akshayakshay9696 6 лет назад
Hello Thomas! First view!! First like!!! And the best review!!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
thanks pal =)
@Sr.D
@Sr.D 5 лет назад
Hola Thomas! Can't wait to see the new Leon in the fr trim, cause this Ibiza already looks the best in class, greetings from Spain.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 5 лет назад
Gracias!
@SPYNOS78
@SPYNOS78 6 лет назад
Awesome... anóther long Ibiza review to enjoy! This really helps with the everlasting wait for my own new Ibiza, a full option Nevada White 1.0 TSI FR DSG, which is expected to arrive in Februari. 😋 Although I hardly ever comment on anything on RU-vid, hereby a big thank you for your véry comprehensive reviews and the great effort you always put into them. They helped alot in my decisionmaking. Keep it up Thomas, AJ and everybody else at Autogefühl! 🙂👍 Kind regards from 🇳🇱
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+SPYNOS78 amazing enjoy :)
@caraddicted6794
@caraddicted6794 6 лет назад
Great choice 😍👏
@SPYNOS78
@SPYNOS78 6 лет назад
car addicted Thank you! 🙂
@morpheusp451
@morpheusp451 6 лет назад
Dat is toevallig. Ik ben ook aan het wachten op een full option Nevada witte 115pk dsg. Word ook deze maand geleverd
@SPYNOS78
@SPYNOS78 6 лет назад
Morpheus P Tof! Succes nog even met wachten. Ik mag ‘m volgende week zaterdag eindelijk ophalen. 😃
@caraddicted6794
@caraddicted6794 6 лет назад
The Ibiza is the best price - performance car you can get in this size ! My favourite choice would be the 1.0TSI in the FR trim with DSG 👍 I really felll in love with the new Seat Design (Ibiza and Arona) 😍 It was an very interesting review about the TDI in the small car segment: I think we need the diesel enigines for the future but not in the small car segment. In my opinion a diesel engine only make sence for bigger vehicles in the upper classes (V6 or V8) ✅
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
thanks 4 watching !
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 года назад
Is DSG7 DQ200 0CW good?
@gordonbennett6057
@gordonbennett6057 6 лет назад
As usual, many thanks Thomas. Great driving part, great commentary and considered discussions on diesel, SCR and petrol. And I like the DSG's. 30:30 nice blue 2CV! Ok, tyre pressure & camber are factors too, but I definitely agree, I need the steering wheel to be exactly straight, on the straights!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
(y)
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 года назад
Is DSG7 DQ200 0CW good?
@ayounireda7394
@ayounireda7394 6 лет назад
perfect review as always, any dacia duster review soon???
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+Ayouni Reda still we ll see what we can do next year
@thecitysurfer
@thecitysurfer 6 лет назад
A unique review as usual with Thomas. My experience with the DSG is that it changes up very fast often running in 7th gear even in the city and so contributes to lower noise from the Diesel. The Diesels in these vehicles sound a little more refined than in the 1.6 Golf but I would miss the auto parking brake from the Golf.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+thecitysurfer 👌👌
@xinporco
@xinporco 6 лет назад
Thanks for another review, now just waiting for the 200hp + loud sports version, if there is one!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+Francisco Sousa cheers!
@j.mmachage831
@j.mmachage831 6 лет назад
Amazing again from autogefuhl! the 2018 suzuki swift sport is coming out next year,could you guys please do that review?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
we ll see what we can do !
@j.mmachage831
@j.mmachage831 6 лет назад
Autogefühl thank you
@tipazas
@tipazas 6 лет назад
yes, diesels can be very low in consumption: in >2000km trip with VW Golf IV Variant 100ps pumpeduse I managed 4,5l/km (full to full measurement), when not exeeding 90-100km/h. It is very covenient, when you can manage >1000km per tank. On the other hand I had Mondeo with 2.5 V6 petrol, yes it's big engine, but you can do whatever you want, even push it by yourself - no less than 7l/100km. In general consumption is not how much you use throttle, but how much you use brakes.
@alancampot9606
@alancampot9606 6 лет назад
As usual, amazing review! Could you please tell us the song at the beginning? Greetings from Argentina!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+Alan Campot thanks! Those are from the youtube audio library
@Azidozin
@Azidozin 5 лет назад
Please review the 1.0 TSI manual vs DSG - I would really like to know the difference between these two! Thank you for many good reviews. I think I have watched almost all of them in the last 1,5 year :)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 5 лет назад
Welcome:)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 5 лет назад
We also have more ibiza videos
@christill
@christill 6 лет назад
I agree that it’s the best exterior design of any small cars. Just have to be patient and wait another few years for that EV version.
@superhollowfied906
@superhollowfied906 6 лет назад
Hey Thomas, please make sure to do a full review of the new Hyundai i30 N. Hyundai managed to hire a lot of German talent into the company and thus resulted in the N sub-brand. The Hyundai i30 N has been touted as a successful, direct competitor to the Volkswagen Golf GTI by many RU-vid journalists so far. I'm curious what your opinion is on Hyundai's serious effort to compete in Europe.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
We would wish to drive drive, don't get me wrong, but somehow we weren't able to drive it yet.
@8TOM
@8TOM 6 лет назад
Hey Thomas great review. Really good looking car. Besides. I have 1 question for Thomas. which one have better in sound insulation, new Seat Ibiza or new VW Polo? thanks in advance.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
Thanks! Both surely come close, usually the VW products are a little better insulated
@grantmarshall3026
@grantmarshall3026 6 лет назад
As I thought! Thanks for the quick reply. The manual diesel version with 95 bhp is available in Ireland now, hopefully the dsg won't take too long! I've literally just finished watching your video! If you find out when the dsg diesel is available in Ireland, you can let me know!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
Sorry we do not check release days for single markets, we would have to do that 130 times then :)
@grantmarshall3026
@grantmarshall3026 6 лет назад
Autogefühl hey no problems ☺️
@whatevernevermind5960
@whatevernevermind5960 6 лет назад
Pls try to review the Jeep Grand Cherokee Thomas
@ryanelewis1379
@ryanelewis1379 5 лет назад
Does the DSG have paddles ? and does it feature any launch ?
@abdou023
@abdou023 5 лет назад
At which time is the part about Handling?
@TekAutomatica
@TekAutomatica 6 лет назад
Steering can be completely straight on a laser alignment but real world it depends on the camber of the road surface. Imagine a slope like the 1920s race tracks - you have to keep the car on the road !
@tho143
@tho143 6 лет назад
For the engine sound difference, I guess the reason could be different tuning (95ps and 115ps), the higher output result in engine working with higher stress?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
Yes
@alexmallios2688
@alexmallios2688 6 лет назад
TOMAS CAN YOU MAKE AND UPLOAD A VIDEO WITH REVIEW OF THE NEW TOYOTA HILYX 2017?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
lets see what we can do
@audi_80club98
@audi_80club98 6 лет назад
I do not know what they are trying with this cheap and hard plastic ... They could have invested more money to make it nice to the eye and comfortable to touch. I do not know, for that money the car is not so cheap, but unfortunately it looks like that. Good review Thomas, and Autogefühl is really the number one. : D
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+Audi 80 B4 Tutorials thanks pal!
@RovexHD
@RovexHD 6 лет назад
Audi 80 B4 Tutorials Well, Seat is a poor man’s VW !
@NB-ev4ln
@NB-ev4ln 6 лет назад
Nice review Thomas! Is the DCC option a must have if you want to drive sporty around corners, or is the standard FR chassis sporty enough?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
Standard will also do fine
@NB-ev4ln
@NB-ev4ln 6 лет назад
Thanks, saves me €275,-, will buy you a beer when we meet in a pub!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
=)
@ricardopereira3095
@ricardopereira3095 6 лет назад
I have a question, this Seat has the leather panel with the red stitching and also in the front doors, which is because of the alcantara package, but I have gone to the SEAT sites in portugal, spain and france for example and they no longer have the alcantara package available, I was wondering if you know why? and greetings from portugal, love your work
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
Yes indeed. That is temporary. As Alcantara company is extending their production facilities, while re-building, they cannot supply as much as they want. So you just have to wait a little
@ronshephard9429
@ronshephard9429 5 лет назад
The Seat FR Sport has the leatherette dash with red stitching and also has the digital cockpit.
@stevencrofts7208
@stevencrofts7208 6 лет назад
HiThomas. Thanks for the review. i am in the UK and am thinking of ordering the 1.5 FR. In previous reviews the FR dash has a glossy black strip but in this review the dash has a leatherette strip(much nicer!) Is this available if you order FR spec with Alcantara/leatherette trim in the UK?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
hey steven, yes. The nice leatherette dashboard is included in the optional alcantara package which can be ordered for the FR and the Xcellence. At least in Germany. Should be the same in the UK, search the price list for the Alcantara package, it should say the same.
@ronshephard9429
@ronshephard9429 5 лет назад
You get the leatherette if you order the FR Sport and you also get the digital cockpit with the sport but not the FR.
@grantmarshall3026
@grantmarshall3026 6 лет назад
Wondering if you have any videos on the Leon 1.6 TDI dsg,as I am almost certain of getting one in the summer
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 года назад
Maybe Toyota is better
@grantmarshall3026
@grantmarshall3026 3 года назад
I’ve had my Leon for 3 years and 60-70 mpg is achievable
@grantmarshall3026
@grantmarshall3026 6 лет назад
Any idea when the 1.6 TDI dsg version is available in Ireland? I'm an over 40s male with difficulties in my legs!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
the TDI DSG is relatively fresh still, can take some more time
@mostrov6
@mostrov6 6 лет назад
Did the gentleman from SEAT confirm the ADBLUE consumption rate per tank of Diesel?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+mostrov6 yeah it is something about 1l / 1000 km
@SSSDDDOOOGGG
@SSSDDDOOOGGG 6 лет назад
I checked the Belgian and German website of Seat and there was no option of a 1.6TDI DSG, from which market was the car in you review? cheers
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
It is not in price lists and configurators yet, this was one first exclusive ride for you, we often get the cars ahead. Cant say however in which exact markets they will introduce, but its even not up on the German site yet
@adampsnr9332
@adampsnr9332 5 лет назад
Can i ask about the 1.6 mpi 110hp petrol engine is it a powerfull engine ?
@sejegamer123
@sejegamer123 4 года назад
Its a Diesel
@TekAutomatica
@TekAutomatica 6 лет назад
You need to go to Finland to review #hvo #NESTE as a fossil diesel replacement option that gives better consumption and much lower NOx and PMs - it is made from waste not food and works at very low temperatures! Also Sweden in winter and a review of electric pre-heating of the engine lowering start up emissions: see #DEFA
@martinibpublic
@martinibpublic 6 лет назад
Request: lighting at night.
@xinporco
@xinporco 6 лет назад
Have you heard any rumours about a proper Cupa/sportier version? I know they said no before but with the basis almost all set up (Polo GTI), seems weird that they are not considering it. Thanks Thomas!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+Francisco Sousa they wont afaik
@Warsheep2k6
@Warsheep2k6 6 лет назад
They already have teased the cupra Leon and Ibiza they don't know if they bring them yet
@Aenkor1982
@Aenkor1982 6 лет назад
Hey Thomas. Since you drove both the Fiesta St Line and Ibiza Fr: which one do you like the most? In my opinion the Fiesta St Line is way better in the interior quality. Even if the Ibiza has more room inside i bought the St Line after driving both. I think the Ibiza Fr was a little bit better in driving from lower rpms up. The cheap hard plastics on the inside of the Ibiza and the lower positioned display i didn't like at all.
@-EvoII-
@-EvoII- 6 лет назад
Interior of the Fiesta better? No way. I have also drive them both. Seats of the ibiza are much better, and also the lay out of the dash, and the materials are better. The new Fiesta dash is better then the old one, but the ibiza dash is much better. Almost all cars in this segment has hard plastics, except the polo. Thats the reason you pay more. When I drive I don't touch the dashboard. Only the steering wheel and pedals.
@Aenkor1982
@Aenkor1982 6 лет назад
Mark false the Fiesta has soft touch instead of hard plastics on the Ibiza. The Seats in the Fiesta are fine to me. Only driven and bought St Line. Maybe the Seats in the normal Fiesta are not so good. For me personally the Fiesta has better materials inside. Pedals are Aluminium on the St Line. Flat bottom steering wheel. Can't find something which is not better then the fr.
@thomasie3
@thomasie3 6 лет назад
Haha, that's cool. I was in exactly the same boat. I went for the Ibiza instead of the Fiesta. The fact that adaptive cruise control and collision warning are not available on a Fiesta in the Netherlands made me choose the Seat. The interior of the Ford is nicer but getting a Fiesta Trend trim level on the st for the price of a Titanium is just to much.
@-EvoII-
@-EvoII- 6 лет назад
Then the ST must be different I think. I also see a lot of test movies and the (prof) reviewers are talking about hard plastics also. As well on the ibiza also. But, the fiesta ST is also I nice car! I has to choose also between this two, and for me the seat was the best one. Feel bigger, and is bigger, seats where much better for me (I'm a big person) and a lot of options. The FR also have a flat bottom steering wheel, and alu pedals is also an option I've bought. I have the fr business intense. Thats the most complete version in my country, and beside that I have all options exept towbar and red brake claws.
@thomasie3
@thomasie3 6 лет назад
Same thing, FR Business Intense 1.5 TSI evo, Mystery Blue, 18 inch wheels, full led, Alcantara and upgraded drive. If you get the Alcantara package you will get the leather dashboard you see in the blue car. By the way, even my Renault Clio that i bought new in 2013 had a soft dashboard.
@-EvoII-
@-EvoII- 6 лет назад
Hi Thomas, again a very good review! Last week I get my ibiza! 150 hp petrol, almost full options. Nice to see the leather dash in this video. I have it also. It was unclear that my car should have it or not, but I'm lucky. I look at autoscout24.de and see only 1.5 which have alcantara seats also have the leather dash. Other versions with alcantara don't have it. The leather dash made it look a little more premium then the standard black one. It also feel soft. Dynamic chassis control is named 'upgrade drive' in my country (Netherlands). I have it also, and was a little confused about it. It's hidden in the 'Seat drive profile' menu. All FR's have the Seat Drive Profile, but not with Dynamic chassis control. Yesterday I was find it out. Did you find DCC is worth an extra 275-280 euro's?
@Ollner79
@Ollner79 6 лет назад
Mark What can you say about your engine?
@SPYNOS78
@SPYNOS78 6 лет назад
Grappig... uit je reactie kan ik herleiden dat je degene bent die ook op seat-online.nl enthousiast over de Ibiza schrijft. 🙂 Ik ben daar zelf niet actief maar toevallig volgde ik dat topic de afgelopen dagen. Ik zag je fotos...mooie uitvoering heb je ook.👌 Ik ben zelf ook blij dat het alcantara pakket zich heeft uitgebreid tot het dashboard. Ik heb zelf trouwens ook de DCC optie aangevinkt.. ben benieuwd hoe dat rijd op een bochtig weggetje. 😁
@-EvoII-
@-EvoII- 6 лет назад
Haha dat kan kloppen inderdaad! Denk dat je geen spijt krijgt van de DCC! Je merkt het verschil echt goed. Ben zelf ff een filmpje aan het uploaden van de led koplampen in het donker. Kijken of het een beetje goed in beeld komt. Leren dash is echt veel mooier dan dat pianolak. Leuke bijkomstigheid van de alcantara bekleding :)
@-EvoII-
@-EvoII- 6 лет назад
The engine is pretty good to me. I don't drive a lot, and I need to take care because it's a new car. But it's pretty fast and the engine is silent. Only when you accelerating the engine makes a sporty sound. You also drive to fast soon because the car accelerate so easely. I'm happy with the engine.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+Mark nice u ll love it! Dcc is not a must imho
@Djscorsio
@Djscorsio 4 года назад
so im soon getting the fr sport 2020 and i have the automatic one with 115nhp will i get the drum breaks at the rear? like the front ones will be the same?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 4 года назад
I think i mentioned what was the hp number when u get discs in the rear, didnt i ?
@Ollner79
@Ollner79 6 лет назад
When exactly will Seat built the Virtal Cockpit into the new Ibiza?
@george19972012
@george19972012 6 лет назад
Oliver Schnabel Probably facelift model will get it or Cupra if they make one lol
@caraddicted6794
@caraddicted6794 6 лет назад
middle or end of 2018👍 Arona gets it first...
@oanaivan3213
@oanaivan3213 6 лет назад
can I fill AdBlue manually? where can I find it? I'm so confused guys
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
Yes u have to
@TheDutchGuy110
@TheDutchGuy110 6 лет назад
i don't care about the hard plastic, just keep your hands of my dash XD
@tho143
@tho143 6 лет назад
For the shifting feel of manual gearbox, I think its good to have some "mechanical resistance" when operating the gear lever, Mazda has been doing quite good in this respect. Also for the "Manual mode" of automatic gearbox, I think the correct pattern should be push the lever to down shift and pull to up shift, just like in a race car, But so far I found only BMW, Mazda, Renault, Porsche are doing it right.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh 6 лет назад
in comparison, does the new polo justify the difference in price?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
+José Ferreira if there is one, no. Sometimes the concise offer wont have a price difference
@cornerstoneSVK
@cornerstoneSVK 6 лет назад
Can anyone tell me if Ibiza will come as 1.5 TSI with DSG?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
Yes it will come later
@NB-ev4ln
@NB-ev4ln 6 лет назад
Autogefühl do you know when?
@TekAutomatica
@TekAutomatica 6 лет назад
The biggest problem with diesels after 2005 was the massive rise in #vehicleobesity We squandered the efficiency of the diesel engine by encouraging a supersizeme SUV consumer culture. Pre 2005 diesels had much lower NOx than even Euro 5 cars. This is from roadside tests with number-plate recognition in London by DEFA 2014. With PMs we must also consider road contact and tyre emissions - see the Hatfield A1M tunnel tests - 66% of all PMs not from exhausts even with the UKs dirty fleets.
@sgtc4538
@sgtc4538 6 лет назад
Luke W - on the Mayor London's website they have a page about vehicle emissions - www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/environment/pollution-and-air-quality/cleaning-londons-vehicles#acc-i-49987 - There's a button for "Check before you buy" - real-world, on-road emission tests. You can search for various vehicles. Qashqai diesel doesn't do very well, XC60 diesel not great, 3008 diesel not much better, Tiguan diesel complies with Euro-6...!
@adidicea
@adidicea 6 лет назад
Thank you for this review. Did I miss your comments about the driving comfort? How is the suspension, how does it feel on 18"? How was that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-di4g_iy-Uas.html? Does the DCC make a difference in improving the comfort?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
Did you watch the whole thing? :)
@adidicea
@adidicea 6 лет назад
Yes, I watch it. Now that you asked, I watch it again. Without absolutely no critics to the review, I was not very convinced: DSG was mentioned that it brings comfort, then later, that D (drive) mode brings fuel economy, few minutes later that DCC in Sport mode makes feeling the bumps. What I am looking for is the answer to: can a small car be comfortable for all the passengers (driver, front and back seats)? or should I look after a higher class: Golf?
@adidicea
@adidicea 6 лет назад
I currently drive a Honda Jazz 1.2 MT 90HP.
@SrdjanPoznanovic
@SrdjanPoznanovic 6 лет назад
Thomas,your left Ibiza is devil red car (plate 665 ...5 kfh ) :-) Devil like to drive a DSG :-)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
=)
@johnnyxp64
@johnnyxp64 6 лет назад
what really makes me crazy is that they dont offer a black or dark grey interior of the roof and pillar etc. only this annoying white bez which just looks bad witb the reset of the dark interior. only the cupra had blsck interior roof. fr no. really sad.
@-EvoII-
@-EvoII- 6 лет назад
johnnyxp64 the excellence had a whole black interior.
@NTodkari
@NTodkari 6 лет назад
Irrelevent to this video....but please review the Jaguar E-Pace soon.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
We would love to drive it! Did you watch Brian's static review? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FMTEZcglCAA.html
@NTodkari
@NTodkari 6 лет назад
Yes I've watched that video. But I meant the E-Pace, not I-Pace.
@MrWorld-hc5rs
@MrWorld-hc5rs 4 года назад
manual wins the day.
@markmd9
@markmd9 6 лет назад
HYUNDAI KONA!!! Please...
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 лет назад
will come next year
@minniesaab7255
@minniesaab7255 6 лет назад
Nice car Mr. ,,full lenKS ,, 😂🤣😂🤣
@-Loki--
@-Loki-- 6 лет назад
I have often thought that VW have been less successful with SEAT as a brand than they have with SKODA. SEAT just has too much link with FIAT in it`s origins and past? It`s a very dull name.
@stojadinsport
@stojadinsport 6 лет назад
Worst new trend in car industry is fake exhaust! Mercedes, Seat, Renault... stop doing this!
@staggabob
@staggabob 6 лет назад
stojadinsport Why? It makes the car look better. You prefer to look at little peashooter exhausts?
@JMNTN
@JMNTN 6 лет назад
YoU aReN't A rEaL cAr GuY iF yOu DoN't LiKe MaNuAl
@crttft9203
@crttft9203 6 лет назад
Why?
@DanA-st2ed
@DanA-st2ed 6 лет назад
MAN-ual clue is in the name
@grimreaperarvo5095
@grimreaperarvo5095 6 лет назад
DSG gearbox is unreliable trust me ive seen it before and if the mecatronics fail and they will the whole dsg bix will go down ! And buying and installing another one is not cheap! Bottom line i prefer manual
@enrobsorussell
@enrobsorussell 2 года назад
Thomas does good reviews....however....sometimes sounds like a VW group salesman/climate change salesman. Most who have been in a Seat know the cabin is awash with cheap plastics, the Skoda slightly worse, with the added disadvantage with the terrible ventilation in the Skoda....the windscreen fogging up with the slightest whiff of breath from the driver from too small a vent on the front screen, also meaning having the air con on even in cold weather, shattering the fuel economy. VW have been totally dishonest as per usual.....the best car of the group being the VW by a country mile, with a price tag to match....next comes the lower pecking order Seat with a slighly lower price with the Skoda put together with the sweepings up off the VW floor....yet according to Thomas, the cheaper Seat and the cheap and nasty Skoda are, "Not so bad!". The continual climate change narrative is to say the least....annoying, from Thomas....on and on and on about seat coverings being `sustainable` (Plastic)...Thomas....plastic comes from oil!!!!! Ever had use of a `sustainable` seat? I am sitting in one right now....with after just 6 months the covering peeling off, yet my `unsustainable` leather swivel chair lasted me 15 years. Which seat is `sustainable`, Thomas????
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 2 года назад
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. As a start, please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nP_CvLlaFlI.html In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which body part you would murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse? The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination. If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tkjCAmq1_8E.html Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u94YXJ72UTA.html Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all just of common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
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