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Buses operating in dedicated transit tunnels are very rare. One city where this is done is Seattle, Washington State, USA.
Originally opening in September 1990, and wholly located within the city's 'free travel' zone the 1 & 1/3rd mile (2.1km) tunnels were originally served by a fleet of Italian Breda duobuses, with some services providing a direct link to the city's airport.
It is in this guise that this film was made.
The bus subway features 5 stations which opened on Mondays - Saturdays only. At the time of construction rail tracks were also installed for a future light rail service. Unfortunately despite this commendable forward thinking it was subsequently decided that part of the light rail line will follow a different alignment than the existing tunnels, so on 24th September 2005 the bus subway was closed for two year period of rebuilding.
Most of the duobuses were actually withdrawn well in advance of the closure (with many being converted to pure trolleybuses for use on surface routes) and - amazingly - replaced with diseasal powered buses. (diseasal = disease diesel)
In April 2005 local users were reporting on Internet discussion groups that the tunnels were often somewhat smelly from (what thinking people know to be) the poisonous diesel engine exhaust fumes.
Whilst it is true that the buses are diesel electric hybrids they still needed to use the fossil fuel traction package whilst underground, although this was in a special 'hush' mode which means that the only operate between stations and at much reduced power.
Apparently the choice of fossil fuel buses was influenced by the transport operators' belief that it is not possible to mix overhead wire powered light rail and electric trolleybuses / duo-buses in an underground tunnel system - even though Essen proved otherwise!
In Seattle the buses were driver steered, it might be assumed that for safety's sake "some" sort of guidance system would have been needed - if only to reduce the chance of a bus accidentally hitting the tunnel wall - especially within the portion of the bus subway which featured narrow London Underground 'tube-like' tunnels (as seen here), but this was not the situation.
This video compilation was filmed in May 1993. The sequences only follow a cursory order and because of faulty camcorder lens optics (which was only discovered once back home) the images are not as sharp as they should have been. Which is a shame.
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The tunnel reopened on 24th September 2007, although again for hybrid diseasal buses only.

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@basictransportenthusiast4386
@basictransportenthusiast4386 6 лет назад
I remember watching this in late 2007 holy Jesus. One of the first RU-vid videos I watched
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 6 лет назад
One of the first RU-vids and one with the highest viewership.
@dwain1771
@dwain1771 15 лет назад
Absolutley brilliant idea, and they really thought ahead with laying tracks as well. Perhaps someday a fully electric bus or vehicle can run though there
@LLocvsttt
@LLocvsttt 2 года назад
Turns out, a train !
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
Most US cities need this - not just Seattle!
@geoff271989
@geoff271989 16 лет назад
Since the floor of the tunnel was lowered for the light rail, there have been concerns that the bus mirrors are now at head height and may strike those who are waiting on the platform. To prevent this, the mirrors are equipped with flashing lights.
@six-stringshinobi7567
@six-stringshinobi7567 7 лет назад
Farewell, Bredas. You were my favorite in the fleet. Guess I have to join MEHVA to ride one again. Thanks for posting this video (I've watched it multiple times since 2011-ish)
@roadblock7801
@roadblock7801 6 лет назад
This definitely takes me back. Thanks for the upload. 👍
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
Thanks for drawing this report to my attention. Simon
@iceboxcv
@iceboxcv 6 лет назад
Too bad those Bredas were retired. I saw them all the time in the early 2010s.
@milesfann33
@milesfann33 3 года назад
I remember I asked bus drivers what it was like to operate a Breda and they said they were the most difficult buses to drive because a lot of them didn't have power steering. I don't know if you've ever seen bus drivers turning those beasts but they were known as the Frankenstein of buses. They also had broken suspension a lot of them so it was hard on bumps. The New Flyers they have now are better.
@DavidShepheard
@DavidShepheard Год назад
RU-vid has been trying to get me to watch this video for months and I finally caved in. It's a very interesting system that totally should be an electric tram system, for the full length of the routes. If they fully converted this to trams, they could have double-ended tram units, that could be chained together to provide 4 cars or 6 cars with a single driver. So it would really boost the capacity of the tunnelled section.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus Год назад
Since this was filmed the tunnels have been rebuilt and are now used by light rail trains
@darryndd
@darryndd 15 лет назад
This is very good, like trams...clean
@strassenbahntk
@strassenbahntk 15 лет назад
Thanks for making and sharing this!
@jemdude22
@jemdude22 17 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks for posting this. Pls do post more such videos.
@verkstadsgatan
@verkstadsgatan 15 лет назад
362 kilometres! I had no idea that Seattle is by far the biggest city in the World. Conbratulations to you. Sorry Moscow, Paris, NYC, LA, Calcutta; London, Tokyo, Kairo, Dehli, Berlin, Mombai; Sao Paolo, Rio. Seattle is from now on The Worlds New Capital! And my hometown Stockholm, Sweden, is next in line;)
@jorgefigueroa4437
@jorgefigueroa4437 5 лет назад
Wow, the Detroit Diesel engine makes me remember here in San Juan, a repowered MAN SG310 unit 84802 6V71N used frequently at route 9, and rarely at former routes 10 and 11. But this Breda artics never comes to San Juan, but AMA in 1992 have an offer of Breda Artics, but AMA preferred the RTS bus, the most popular from transit agencies.
@Shmebber
@Shmebber 13 лет назад
I wish this video showcased more of the beautiful bus tunnel stations - the low quality doesn't showcase the stunning marble and granite facades. It also doesn't show much of Westlake station - by far the prettiest in the tunnel!
@dvdmrtnkls
@dvdmrtnkls 14 лет назад
Seattle seems even more sensible than i imagined. Cute and Co-operative.
@maximase86
@maximase86 17 лет назад
As mentioned before the Breda's were maintenance nightmares. They often cost much more to repair issue, they frequently broke down. They were extremely heavy and the diesel motors they came with were extremely underpowered as well as very dirty (2-stroke DD 6v92ta's, love the motors...but man they smoke). They hybrids are much easier to maintain, are becoming more mainstream, and they are very clean.
@robbpeppertree
@robbpeppertree 16 лет назад
That's kinda neat. In Ottawa, Canada the buses have their own private highway. Kind of the same concept. The only stops are major stations where you can transfer to more localized buses.
@BraghoFrancesco
@BraghoFrancesco 14 лет назад
Beautiful Trip! Excellent!
@pattyannsmith
@pattyannsmith 16 лет назад
Hi! Dan ~ This video is very interesting and educational! and Thank You for sharing it! ~ Patty:)
@boototter
@boototter 17 лет назад
thanks for both the video and the story on mismanagement. At first sight I thought the rails were for some guidance system, but oooof...
@CaptainOtis380
@CaptainOtis380 7 лет назад
RIP to these Bredas (1990-2016). The final remaining ones just retired.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 7 лет назад
Thanks for telling me. So today, Thursday 27th October was their last day?
@CaptainOtis380
@CaptainOtis380 7 лет назад
citytransportinfo Yes, #4203 and #4243 were the last ones. A friend texted me that today's the last day they're in service. He researched on Seattle Transit Blog.
@wolfss66
@wolfss66 7 лет назад
Yes.
@Gigan007
@Gigan007 5 лет назад
Trains:CaptainOtis380 Welp At Least We Can Take Them As Subway Trains
@Allawahguy
@Allawahguy 16 лет назад
I was there just last month- and it feels like you're in a subway train.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
In the bus industry its called 'BRT' - Bus Rapid Transit. There are 2 bus subways in Boston, the Silver is the newer route but there is also the short bus subway (including underground bus stop) by Harvard subway station. Simon
@xSeattleGracex
@xSeattleGracex 14 лет назад
I didn't know they had that here, cool.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 15 лет назад
Hello. In the video these are 'duo-buses'. They have two drive systems and sometimes work as 100% electric trolleybuses and sometimes as 100% diesel buses. But this was filmed in 1993. Since 2007 they use different buses which are 'hybrid' - a diesel engine plus a battery electric system which work together. regards Simon
@machinesbreathe
@machinesbreathe 15 лет назад
The bus tunnels are to be shared with a light rail line leading from downtown Seattle to SeaTac airport effective July 18th of 2009.
@jimthake2024
@jimthake2024 4 года назад
I loved driving those old girls great days and job rt #175.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 4 года назад
thanks for watching and commenting.
@316xsteph
@316xsteph 16 лет назад
im going there for summer! yay!
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
Someone has reminded me that as duobuses the Bredas were not the most successful vehicles - but are now enjoying a successful second life as pure trolleybuses. Simon
@UpLiftVancouver
@UpLiftVancouver 5 лет назад
As of 23rd March, 2019, there are no more buses running in the tunnel. Link Light Rail trams still run through it with better efficiency now that the buses have since been rerouted up to street level. I have various videos of bus rides through the tunnel from 2018-2019 that I will be slowly be uploading.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 5 лет назад
Thank you for telling me.
@knightsintodreams
@knightsintodreams 15 лет назад
wow this is so neat~!! i never knew we had theses, im gonna ride one :D
@sherwelthlangley
@sherwelthlangley 15 лет назад
Actually, light rail rapid transit trains are now running through the tunnel alongside the buses. The original tracks that were laid in the late 80s were not compatible with the current Kinkisharyo trains, so the closure of the tunnel from 2005-2007 was to upgrade the tracks and lower the floor of the roadway for the low-floor trains.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
In Essen Germany they found that light rail and trolleybuses can share tunnels. (See some of my other videos) Seattle thinks otherwise. OK, in Seattle the light rail will use 1500v dc - which hardly any light rail systems use - but for the tunnel they could halve that voltage without major problems, especially as the speeds will be low.
@jplully
@jplully 13 лет назад
Great sollution.
@runnerodb83
@runnerodb83 14 лет назад
the busses now are diesel hybrids, when in the tunnel they are in "hush" mode, they operate at 25mph using electric traction. The engine still turns on but in a "low emission" and low noise mode to provide anciliarry power.
@novi4oks
@novi4oks 15 лет назад
looks cool
@saswc
@saswc 14 лет назад
I miss those buses...just not the same with these buses today without the having to bring up/down the cables to switch from diesel to electric. Ah nostalgia...
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
aha, now I understand. Thanks. This is the new streetcar line - Portland has a modern streetcar and Seattle wanted one as well. Simon
@NeoDerGrose
@NeoDerGrose 14 лет назад
In Essen, Germany they have buses in the tram tunnel. But it's a bit different. The buses have aditional doors at the left side and they run on a kind of special rails. But they could also drive on roats like normal busses.
@Illumination70
@Illumination70 10 лет назад
When I lived in Seattle, I took the metro everywhere!!
@sherwelthlangley
@sherwelthlangley 16 лет назад
There is a South Lake Union Trolley line that runs between Westlake and South Lake Union. It is operated actually by King County Metro. Sound Transit is building a Central Link line for the light rail system system set to open in 2009, and which may expand in the future.
@MoonchildMindaugas2
@MoonchildMindaugas2 13 лет назад
In Estonia, and a lot of cities and countries of ex-USSR, there are buses that have contact lines above, - they're called trolleys :)
@transitwizard
@transitwizard 16 лет назад
I didn't see the message you were responding to but at the end of the video you can clearly see that the coach drops it's connectors and drives off with black smoke coming from it's exhaust! The reason for the electric(speaking to your person who posted originally) is that the tube would fill with smoke! Yes not all people have our reasoning that view this site so lets be a little more pleasant.
@kilodeltaeight
@kilodeltaeight 13 лет назад
What's fun about Convention Place Station (the last station shown in the video) is that it was barely touched during the makeover - the old rails are still I'm the ground, heading up the express lane ramps towards I-5. All the wire overhead is still there too. Once you get to the "merge point" just north of Westlake station by the Pine ST. Stub tunnel, they all vanish.
@Lukelr
@Lukelr 15 лет назад
can't imagine the busses can do that much longer, with the Link LRT running now.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
there are several cities with tunnels - often former streetcar tunnels - but in most places they are now disused. Seattle (and Boston) are different, as they built new tunnel ssytems specially for the buses. Simon Simon
@khmerboy27
@khmerboy27 16 лет назад
i missing riding the metro bus back in the day.... start from china town of seattle to the middle of of downtown of seattle... the west lake center mall....
@3212321
@3212321 13 лет назад
Cool!
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
Thanks, Patty, I'm pleased that you found it to be of interest. Simon
@RobertSeattle
@RobertSeattle 15 лет назад
That's the "old" bus tunnel - it's been massively updated since 2007 for light rail. At some point when Seattle's train system is larger, buses will probably get "kicked out" of the tunnel.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
On my website you need to look for the bus priority systems page, from where there is a link to a special page which looks at Kerb Guidance / the O-Bahn, which is a form of self steering for buses that was first used in Essen with the intended aim of making more productive use of light rail tunnels buy making it so that buses could share them too. Simon
@shaftshaft
@shaftshaft 15 лет назад
Don't get me wrong. I like having the tunnel since I live in north seattle and the buses get you through downtown quickly. However I enjoy visiting my friends up in Vancouver and hoping on a sky train 1000 times better.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 15 лет назад
globally as many cities use overhead wire electric trolleybuses as use light rail. The advantages include zero pollution in the streets and depending on how the electricity is sourced the transports can be totally clean / pollution free. As in Vancouver BC with its hydo power. Simon
@prickiland
@prickiland 16 лет назад
hold your horses before you get too excited. The bus tunnel is running in the infastructure for a future subway system (that's why you see tracks in the tunnel). Seattle has a way to go before they offer a truly convenient public transit system. Of course I came here after San Francisco which has an amazing public transit system. The Sounder is nothing compared to the Caltrans. The public transportation here is designed to get 8-5 workers into Seattle for work and little more.
@kikkekiz
@kikkekiz 14 лет назад
i sew this it make me miss seattle!!!!!
@stanburdick9708
@stanburdick9708 Год назад
Its the damdest thing I knew all along that bus tunnel existed but never went down their......
@ramis182
@ramis182 14 лет назад
i've been in those tunnels a few times seeing as i live near seattle.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 15 лет назад
Thanks. 'no worries'. Simon
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
The light rail is not even open yet! Experience here in Britain (outside of London) has shown that what is free to roam is also free to roam away. Bus services can be killed off with just 42 days notice, leaving people high and dry. Fixed infrastructure gives confidence that the transport which is 'here today' will also be 'here tomorrow'. This then acts as a focus for inward investment by other businesses. Simon
@epcmd
@epcmd 13 лет назад
cool!
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
Even in 1998 I was stopped from videoing on stations on the Boston Mass subway system. People have told me that filming is banned in case there is an accident - either caused by the person filming or that the footage might be used in a lawsuit for damages. Simon
@cityraildude
@cityraildude 15 лет назад
Good idea, wish we had something like this here in Australia!!!! :), i'm assuming it's in seatlle USA?
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
Rails were designed for a light rail scheme, but it was later decided that the light rail should follow a slightly different route, so the tunnel is closed for that rebuilding. So, to answer your question, the buses were steered by human drivers, and the rails were never used. Simon
@robbpeppertree
@robbpeppertree 16 лет назад
I lived there for 20 years. (Given it was the first 20 years of my life, so I didn't understand the bus system fully until about age 12). I'd like to see Ottawa with a mass-transit system too. Whenever I go back to visit, I still take the 97, 118, and all those crappy ass cross-town routes I wish didn't exist.
@lymanbeach24
@lymanbeach24 15 лет назад
I worked on this tunnel during the renovation in 07, I can see some of the electrical work that I did, the original tracks were to narrow, so they cut them out and put in new ones, they brought the new train in one day to check the tracks and let us come on board to look at it, and I had to ask where are they going to put the luggage at when this goes to the airport, you should of seen the look on there faces, kind of like maybe we forgot some thing?
@godawgs06
@godawgs06 16 лет назад
The tunnels have vents that allow the polluted air to circulate, just as passenger car tunnels.
@dvferyance
@dvferyance 10 лет назад
I was in Seattle years ago and I took this bus subway I thought it was interesting.
@boeingnerd77
@boeingnerd77 14 лет назад
i been on 1 of em 2!!
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
people do this all the time on public transport, its no big deal - well, not above ground. However it is something when the mobile phones work in tunnels too. Many people like being 'out of reach' when in tunnels, as it gives them a chance to rest, read magazines, etc without the boss being able to phone them every few minutes. Simon
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 15 лет назад
Yes, in fact they spend most of their time on the real road, sharing roadspace with everything else. This can be seen in some of my other Essen films. Simon
@prickiland
@prickiland 16 лет назад
that's it. Just go to the bottom floor of Macy's and ask someone. The tunnels are useful in that they are not affected by traffic and they mostly serve routs that go from downtown to the 'burbs or University District. If you live in Ballard then it might not be so great. I come in from Federal Way so the buses go straight to the tunnel. One advantage though is that all busses stop at all stops in the tunnel so you don't have to worry about which street to be on to catch the #such-and-such bus.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
always bene part of the plan. Just taking ages to do it! Simon
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
thanks for watching my video and commenting. Simon
@vascularcylinder
@vascularcylinder 16 лет назад
My father who is a researcher in cancer in Seattle only drives about 1 mile to transit center to catch bus. I am also in the bioscience related lab. My boss also only drives to transit center to catch bus. I have my car, but I will ride my bicycle unless the weather is bad.
@teenonator
@teenonator 16 лет назад
Actually, it's not all that noisy. Much quieter than above ground bus stops. Pretty much tastefully done tilework & ort. What's great is when you just want to get from one end of downtown to the other, like the surface buses, it's free most of the time. What was hellish was when they were building it, mostly using the "Cut & Cover" method like much of northern London
@LaurenEveCreates
@LaurenEveCreates 4 года назад
And there's another between Colonial Edgemead and Historic Santa Angela. Signed, Lucy Nickell.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
Please read page 21 of the report... (copied below). I am still reading it so may wish to make more comments at another time. Simon The hybrid buses have a feature unique to KC Metro's operation: HUSH mode. HUSH mode fills the need for an operating mode to minimize noise and engine emissions while a bus is in Seattle's downtown transit tunnel. The hybrid buses operate in an electric-only mode in the station areas of the tunnel and in a reduced engine power mode in between stations.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
hmm, that sounds like the modern-day concept of 'progress'! Simon
@PinkPixie019
@PinkPixie019 15 лет назад
They closed them a few years ago and turned them into the new Light Rail Train tunnel and a buss transit center.
@QuarioQuario54321
@QuarioQuario54321 4 года назад
Buses don’t even run through here anymore, it’s only the Central Link these days
@JonathanChan212
@JonathanChan212 5 лет назад
Now the Breda buses, along with the Gillig trolleybuses, were replaced by New Flyer XT40s and XT60s. Downtown Seattle Transit Tunnel, currently for hybrid buses and Central Link, has the really big difference compare the ones in the video. The buses operating now are (all New Flyer): DE60LF 2600-2812, 6813-6865, 9600-9621, 9622-9636 DE60LFR 6866-6999, 6800, 9637-9651 XDE60 9652-9659 The DE60LF 2600-2812, however, will be replaced by XDE60 8000-8084, 8100-8199, 8200-8299, on 2019-2020, so the tunnel will have the replacement buses operating in the future. The King County Metro operate routes have 41, 74, 101, 102, 150, and 255. The Sound Transit operate route has 550 only. Central Link, on the other hand, has a fleet by Kinkishayo, built in 2009. Central Link is now operating U of W to Angel Lake, a little south on Seattle-Tacoma Int' Airport.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
Hybrids usually get better mileage - because they store braking energy in their batteries and use it when the vehicle is starting from rest. This reduces fuel consumption. Simon
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
Thanks yes, I know of it but have only seen photos. It was not open when I was in Boston. But I saw theie other bus subway (Harvard). The Silverline uses duo-buses, as part of the route is over federal roads where overhead wires are not allowed (so I've been told). Simon
@transitwizard
@transitwizard 16 лет назад
Now I found you...You'd have to be there to understand it...hopefully! Think of it...instead of complicating things for their ridership the Agency actually did it right and so now people taking a bus don't have to get off and transfer to a subway. I applaud the City and Agency for keeping it more user friendly. Look for my additional post about this!
@daavey
@daavey 14 лет назад
this is a very old video. That design of bus hasnt been used by King County Metro for at least 10 years. The buses that do run in the tunnel now use diesel (not their trolly poles), and there is also now light rail sharing the tunnel with the buses, one of the very few tunnels in the world to share trains and buses in one tunnel.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 15 лет назад
Historical interest of things which have since changed. This video along with my videos from Berlin just after the fall of the wall have been seen by many tens of thosuands people - frankly I feel honoured that so many people have seen them. The historical aspect will beocme ven more significant if the predicted events come to pass over the next few months - for instance the web bots suggest that in December the PNW will see major tectonic activity - watch Mt Ranier too. Simon
@sataiYT
@sataiYT 14 лет назад
its like a metro but on bus... nice
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 16 лет назад
I also wonder about steering the buses in such narrow tunnels and would have thougght that the guidance system in Essen would have been beneficial here too. But it seems that they managed. Simon
@MrWolfTickets
@MrWolfTickets 2 месяца назад
My mom took me and a friend on the route 72 (I think) from lake city down to the tunnel when it first opened. I think I remember the floor of the tunnel busses looked like the standard black rubberized floor but like a can of white paint had spilled and run in kind of marbled streaks. Am I remembering that right? Thanks for posting this!!
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus Месяц назад
sorry but I do not remember,
@cityraildude
@cityraildude 15 лет назад
thx
@nocluewhere
@nocluewhere 13 лет назад
seeing that first bit as you go down the tummel got me thinking of the train drivers here in OZ conplaining of driveing in the tunnles with the lights cousing disorentaion, thats the anwser turn the lights away so that its lighting where you are going not where you are.
@lordblazer
@lordblazer 17 лет назад
lol public transit is non-existing in Oklahoma. Seattle is such a great place to be. I loved it when I use to live there.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 15 лет назад
(Internet Translation) Hola. En el vídeo éstos son ' duo-buses'. Tienen dos sistemas y a veces trabajos de impulsión como trolebuses eléctricos del 100% y a veces como autobuses diesel del 100%. Pero esto fue filmada en 1993. Desde 2007 utilizan diversos autobuses que sean ' hybrid' - un motor diesel más un sistema eléctrico de la batería que trabajan juntos. respetos Simon
@gideon1452
@gideon1452 15 лет назад
Cool
@transitwizard
@transitwizard 16 лет назад
I applaud Seattle for people mover engineering technology...something other cities should have done like Los Angeles where we have allot of hills and it takes the ridership to long to get around them. Having Tunnels through the bottom of our hills would cut down facing traffic and get people where they need to be and I'd bet that tunnel transit systems would cut down on the hillside breakdown all us drivers have from time to time and would actually extend the life of the coach.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
Thanks. I too am enjoying the debate, altho' as it was almost 1am I had to take a break for the night. Simon
@kilodeltaeight
@kilodeltaeight 13 лет назад
It was originally thought a light rail line would run up I-5 towards lynnwood, but this was changed 15 years later in favor of hitting the University of Washington along the way. Busses will get kicked out of the tunnel once the extension to UW opens in 2016. The rails would have had to be replaced regardless, as they weren't electrically insulated. During the renovation, Sound Transit also raised the platform to 14 in., allowing for level boarding.
@OregonTransitFan
@OregonTransitFan 7 лет назад
Are you kidding me?? Why are they kicking buses out of the bus tunnel?
@Alternatevil
@Alternatevil 15 лет назад
Well, here in Seattle, we also are using electric overhead lines on some bus routes which run on the streets, take for example the 7 bus, the most used bus route in Seattle, which runs electric lines with gasoline powered buses. The problem is that our city is too large and there are too many hills to make all buses electric. Seattle spans about 362 km, and it's very hard to do anything city wide at this point.
@CitytransportInfoplus
@CitytransportInfoplus 17 лет назад
yup, tunnels are being reused for the light rail - and assuming that Mt Ranier does not copy what Mount St Helens did in 1980 will be used for that purpose too. Simon
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